Boeing Starliner Continue Has A GIANT Problem! Delay Again...
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- Boeing Starliner Continue Has A GIANT Problem! Delay Again...
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00:00: Introduction
00:31: Starliner delay
06:58: NS-25 mission
08:55: IM-2 mission
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Boeing Starliner Continue Has A GIANT Problem! Delay Again...
Alas, the Boeing Starliner spacecraft appears to be plagued by a persistent curse, as it has yet again been delayed. Yes, once again! And this time, the problem lies not with Atlas V but with Starliner itself! What exactly happened here? Should NASA cancel this disaster? Find out everything in today's episode of Great SpaceX!
Boeing Starliner Continue Has A GIANT Problem! Delay Again...
Starliner had been scheduled to lift off this Friday (May 17) on Crew Flight Test, a mission that will send NASA astronauts Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore to the International Space Station (ISS) for a roughly eight-day stay. But that's no longer the plan. Teams detected a small helium leak in Starliner's service module. This means the first crew launch of Boeing's Starliner spacecraft, running years behind schedule and more than $1.4 billion over budget, won't happen before next Tuesday, May 21, at 4:43 pm EDT.
Boeing Starliner Continue Has A GIANT Problem! Delay Again...
In fact, mission commander Barry “Butch” Wilmore and co-pilot Sunita Williams had hoped to take off on the Starliner’s first piloted flight last Monday. They were in the process of strapping in when the countdown was called off because of trouble with an oxygen pressure relief valve in the rocket’s Centaur upper stage.
Two days later, the Atlas 5 was hauled off the launch pad and moved back to ULA’s nearby Vertical Integration Facility where the suspect valve was replaced. Tests confirmed the rocket is good to go for another launch try. - Věda a technologie
Each day that goes by, the picture becomes clearer and clearer…
Thank goodness SpaceX were selected as ‘the backup’…
SpaceX now is Nasa's savior
Like the old joke… “Please don’t tell my mother I am an engineer at Boeing… she thinks I play piano at a house of ill repute for a living”
Bolts loose on airplanes - bolts loose on space ship. They are consistent at least.
So risky😨
@@colonbina1 Yes, But the adrenaline Rush. I am an old adrenaline junkie. Never could go fast enough on those 4 mile mountain runs on snow skies. I am 62, this year, and still skateboard = LOL
To be fair to Boeing, the bolts on the 737 door plug weren't loose.. they were missing!
@@chrisantoniou4366 I'm old. I've seen this behavior in companies big and small. During the 60's there was an open checkbook. They got too used to not having oversight.
The way Government does bidding odd crazy to all the way down to local government. If you win a bid you then post a bid bind. They are going to start work a year from now and upon completion you will get paid a year later. All this time one is paying interests on the bond, materials and payroll. This is why a hammer ( Omni Directional Impact Tool ) cost $800.
I've seen many companies go from Good Intentions making a little money to excessive greed.
Barbarians at the Gate was a fantastic portrayal.
It's a tragedy to be sure that a company that used to be cutting edge has gone wrong. Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas, who built Gemini in the 1960's and worked on Apollo. It's time to select SpaceX as the company that will boldly go into the future. ❤
Haha!!! 😃😂 They can't even get Starliner to orbit!!!!
LOL.
They didn’t buy Douglas
,😅😂🤣😆
@@tomdavis8757 was it just the McDonnell? Because their old headquarters by Lambert Airport and my engineer friend switched overnight to Boeing.
They need more Bacon grease on the seals to stop the leaks.
Is that what Nasa did on SLS?
Good One!
@@colonbina1 It was Sarcasm, referring to the Pork in the system.
@@colonbina1 They must have. There doesn't seem to be enough grease to pack this debacle. Now we have to find out who is sniffing the helium. That will make a Boeing valve leak.
Comment of the year. 😂
What the new leak means is that Boeing's approach of designing a non-reusable ship doesn't financially work because of more delays. It also proves that SpaceX's design it, break it, and rebuild it approach is faster.
Helium ? How can I not laugh.......😂❤
Why
Massively OVER budget, and YEARS behind schedule!! Cancel this problem before an astronaut dies.
Exactly 14 years since Boeing started this disaster
Exactly
The budget overruns on Shitliner are not a cost to taxpayers. Shitliner was built for a FIXED-PRICE contract. NASA has already given the money to Boing and Boing must supply the services it has been paid for. The only organization that will lose revenue if Boing proceeds with its six contracted flights is SpaceX, who will lose $1.5B in future business. However SpaceX has already ceased building new Crew Dragons which would be needed if it had to satisfy those flights as well as its commercial contracts. However if NASA cancels those 6 Boing flights Congress will PUNISH NASA in future budgets. And if Boing admitted that it is over $2B in the hole on the Shitliner project and withdrew, it would have to REFUND NASA $2B that it has already been paid.
@@jamescobban857 Yeah, but the thing is, SpaceX is in the Black, and is already successfully launching manned rockets to the ISS. BIG difference.
Yeah have you ever seen how gov contracts like this actually go.. they will never have to pay any money to the gov and will probably get paid all cost overruns ...😂😂@@jamescobban857
A moment of silence please, for the PDBs scheduled to ride that disaster.
All the best for our astronauts
If it's Boeing we're not going.
Boeing ??? Someone needs to check the hatch of that vessel. In case they had DEI employees install it and a DEI inspector check it…
Perhaps the Ceo of Boeing should take a ride, instead of spouting a load of BS!
Lets put it this way shall we. SpaceX is kicking NASA's butt BIG time. Didn't realise that Blue Origin still existed.
Haha, who B.O?
@@colonbina1 But the FAA is doing all it can to slow down SpaceX and give every chance for Boeing to keep pace.
Good Morning, Kev. By now everyone should have come to the conclusion that there are no more excuses for such a humiliating disaster. What excuses do the people in charge have this time. Can you believe it? Someone is sniffing to much helium. Have a Great Day. Pull the plug!
Thanks for your great comment. Let's wait to see how Boeing and Nasa solve their problems☺️
Your tax dollars going to waste.
@@jasongreenaway5597 So True!
TBH if I was supposed to be part of the crew flight test I would be very very worried
Hopefully, there are engineers somewhere in Boeing that will be heard and not overruled for political reasons that ultimately cost lives.
Legend has it that Boeing may lose the race to Dreamchaser, a spacecraft that didn't get that huge return to space contract. Hope Congress asks for a refund if they do.
😂😂😂
They should continue with a launch but make it unmanned. Starliner has had too many "issues" to be certified for human flight!
Let's wait to see what they can do
Starting to sound like o-rings?
lol
Obviously, the experts involved aren't diverse enough. Boeing needs to assemble a diverse group built on equity to study this perplexing issue. 😂
So you think just pure White Supremacists will make this a success?😳 OK Donald!!!
Are you sure they even have a single none white person running their show?
If it is Boeing, it aint going.
I can't get over how brave those two astronauts must be to trust themselves to that heap of junk.
Hopefully, they can complete and return safely
*The Boeing Starliner has been delayed... **_again?_*
Oh, what a surprise.
I will leave the snark there
Thanks for the Video Kevin; your videos are actually quite good, so ignore our snarking about the subject of the video.
My honor, thanks
@@colonbina1only con from your videos are awful clickbaity titles
On the last attempt, Starliner had a number of these reaction control thrusters fail. Of course Boeing said that they fixed the issue, but didn't actually have the hardware to examine, it was lost when the service module re-entered. When is common sense going to break out at NASA and decide enough is enough and go with what actually works. Even if Starloser flies, it will be much more expensive per seat than SpaceX dragon.
Here’s an idea. How about testing parts before using them?
Maybe
You don't have to crash to have a disaster on your hands.
*Boeing has proven you correct again and again and again and again and again*
I bet NASA is glad they chose spacex 10 years ago.
It is wonderful to say
Risky bet turned out safe, safe turned out risky.
I bet China is laughing.
Question is would you sit on top of this Rocket with so many problems?
I hope Boeing can get back to being the company it was, thank goodness SpaceX exists, the USA not being able to carry out human space flight was truly depressing.
Yeah, they cannot beat SpaceX with the current performance
Haha!!!🤣😅😂 SpaceX can't even get Starliner to orbit!!! Haha!!! 😂😃
Starliner is a Boeing product. Starship (A Space X product) went to orbit in OFT 3.
This is ridiculous, but not surprising at all. Starliner, SLS, Artemis are nothing more than jobs programs for Congressional Districts. Even if there weren't all the issues, they are still using an updated Apollo command module! The capsule is the only "possible" reusable part of the entire system. Considering how much trouble a brand new is having, who would be stupid enough to ride in a refurbished one? With SpaceX there's no need for Starliner, SLS or Artemis. What is even more frustrating & embarrassing is they gave almost double the development money to Boeing than they did to SpaceX! This is a perfect example of our country's overall dysfunction.
Godspeed, Capricorn One!😂
Calling the Blue Origin launches human spaceflight is pretty weak. Six Flags isn't far behind them.
The passengers aren't astronauts --- they are neonauts.
We need to stop using crossing the Karman line as the definition of an astronaut.
@@mikegardner107 Currently in the US, the requirements aren't even the Karmen line (100 km). It's 50 miles -- about 80 km! This is why Virgin Galactic can fly into "space".
There are proposals to lower the Karmen line to 80 km. Personally, I feel it should be raised to 120-125 km. At that altitude, single orbit without re-entry becomes possible.
I do not want to see any of this fail. I want to see a man on the moon again before I die,
Perhaps they should ask SpaceX to take a look at it!
Having two vehicles is important to NASA, one to throw money at for laundering and one to actually use to shuttle people/supplies back and forth.
😂😂😂
Amazing Artemis performed flawlessly to the moon and back...eh?
😂😂😂😂
@@WiilyDerbbinphlatte Amazing how they were way late and way over budget...eh?
@@rogerrussell9544 Flawlessly on its first launch, to the moon and back...eh?
I'm holding out for the Starliner Max
Haha!!! Not in your lifetime.
They missed a leak on the pad now they have decided to take another look at the leak and now delayed launch
Yeah👍👍👍
list this under "CRAP that should NEVER be POSSIBLE !!!" again
Boeing used to be an engineering company in Seattle, but one day, it decided to become a bean-counting company and moved the management to Chicago. Anyway, it's been downhill ever since.
Thank you for the including the IM-2 mission in this update.
Yeah, let's wait for their next updates
I wont be suprised if this thing explodes on liftoff...
If it ever happens.
No. We hope that this never happens.😩😩😩
The rocket is good. The failure would happen in space on the starliner
The amount of hope and patience from NASA to this rocket 🚀 is amazing and scary at the same time for the souls who are waiting for clearance to ride on that thing.
And noting that this was never meant to be reusable like the SpaceX rocket, hence it will always detect faults/errors everytime it goes back to the launch pad. 🤞🏼
They should ask the support from SpaceX
Im sick of NASA...
Yeah, almost as bad as SpaceX eh? At least Artemis (NASA) performed flawlessly to the Moon and back....eh?
@@WiilyDerbbinphlatte you need to read a book buddy...
@@How.Dare.You_Biden Artemis didn't perform flawlessly???
@@WiilyDerbbinphlatteWell it didn't get back in fit condition for astronauts to go on the next flight without some fixes they still don't appear to have figured out to the ablative heat shield.
ULA has issues partly because its a joint venture between Boeing and Lockheed Martin. If I were scheduled to go up in that thing, Id be extremely worried.
👍👍👍
Kind of makes you wish they had chosen Sierra Space over Boeing now, doesn’t it? Dream Chaser is an orders of magnitude more elegant solution than Starliner. Imagine where we’d be right now…if they had.
Could not pay me enough to be the first person on that vehicle to the space station. Shit, at this rate we may lose the entire ISS
It's Boeing, you know the company that whistle blowers mysteriously seem to get unalived. If I where those astronauts, I'd refuse to fly the death can until Boeing starts answering some serious questions.
If its Boeing, It aint going ......
01:59 - within safe limit? That what they said about temperature. I hope lessons has learned.
Yeah, they need to ensure everything before deciding launch
Indeed Boeing is making a mark in history.
Unprecedented mark😂
A skid mark
Look how much faster we are reaching into space with Corporate competition. The old approach doesn't work anymore with un-reusability.
Yeah. This quite funny, right?
You couldn't pay me enough to go on starliner!
Do Lemon laws apply to spacecraft...??
A helium leak? Maybe it was a good thing the valve went bad.
It makes absolutely No sense to stop Now. Pull through Boeing, You can still do it!
At what outcome does it male sense to say "Stop. Let's think about this"?
@@michaelreid2329 Indeed an absolut valid question. This would need to be defined. However, no matter the outcome on this question, I think it’s save to say, Not at 98% in front of the finish line.
Oh no! Not MCAS again!
Missing door bolts?
Slight tilt?
Isn’t part of Starliners problem that these valves wear out rapidly? A few long holds on during the count down can cause them to go beyond spec and fail.
Sound like the boeing safety checks from their 737 models have reached their space rocket sector
😂😂😂
@@colonbina1honestly I al surprised they got such a big budget and haven't delivered anything really successful except dinner parties for their managers in their circle jerk ;)
I don't think that rocket will ever take off before space X has chopstick caught their starship
You gotta secure the door plugs!
SpaceX keep refurbishing your crew dragon every six months as i think Starliner is not going to start carrying ISS crews for awhile longer
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In the event of a major spacecraft failure would Starliner and Dragon be able to dock with each other?
Leak in a flange? This is why SpaceX hates flanges... 🤷🤦
All theses are new part, on a new craft….how can they go bad before use?
It's not very clear, did the Starliner helium leak prove to be significantly worse than was suspected during the previous aborted launch? What was the risk of a thruster failure while in orbit, given what they know now? Did the problem with the Centaur upper stage inadvertently prevent a potential disaster during the mission? Still, I hope that Starliner launches successfully with their next attempt and that the mission ends successfully. Thanks for the insight!
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As I said before, the real problem for the failure to launch was the Starliner itself. The Atlas 5 was just an excuse for Boing to try not to look as bad in their massive corporate welfare failures.
Yeah, I'm agree to you
When is Starliner’s expiry date? must be getting close
NASA will never cancel Starliner. They would have to admit SpaceX, Blue Origin, and others can do it cheaper and better. For them, it's a pride thing.
...and as we all know - pride goeth...
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Boeing Starliner it’s self over priced and now they canceled the flight but Boeing said that the leak was within launch limits. I say any leaking, leaks are not safely operated especially when life’s are at risk. Hopefully the cabin door is safely closed and secured.
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Right. Nobody is going to float around up in space. Okay that's settled.
Geez for all that money SpaceX would have us on Mars already. And having 2 vehicles means interoperability expense, not flexibility.
It’s been a long time now since Boeing was a decent company.
They need to put engineers back in charge again.
So, when Dream Chaser comes online, there will no longer be ANY reason to endlessly pursue United Lasunch Attempt's Stasrliner project?
There isn't one now. Hedging one's bets at the beginning with two contractors is one thing, but persevering with a failed contractor when you have a successful and robust alternative is insanity!
I don’t see the problem, so the astronauts sound like Donald Duck over the comms, no big deal. 😅
Probably leaking through the gaps from the loose bolts in the door.
Keep discussing this on our channel ☺️
Really don't understand say? what do you mean "targeting a launch date of no earlier than 4:43 p.m. EDT"?
The launch will happen after 4:43 pm... it could be the next day, the next month, or the next yerar or so...
😂😂😂
Boeing and rocket science - what could possibly go wrong ?
A leak in a flange? This is exactly why SpaceX avoids using flanges...
Yeah, Boeing is far behind SpaceX
The question is if Jeff can get it up for a change to orbit.
It’s simply time to cancel the Starliner program!
Please double check every window or door…
I dont get why Nasa wont stick with spaceX but asks boeing to make a capsule. Spacex works reliable so why switch over?
Bowing is only fulfilling their obligation to NASA, they won't even build another ship
They got money from this contract, they have responsibility to complete that
"Slight tilt"?
Use Space X, their ship works just fine. Pull the plug on Boeing and cut your losses.
Another video about delays??? I can't even know if it's a new delay or an "old" one from a couple of day before.
This is new updates
@@colonbina1 I suggest inserting a counter in the video title. Ex.: Delay#1, Delay#2, etc. So that we can track delays. 😁😁
The little train that can't and probably shouldn't.
Well what with airplane fuel tanks perforated by electric drills at the airports and every large commercial aircraft brand suffering occasionally or in each version suddenly. The hole in the rocket fuel assembly or engines delimma takes a strange twist. And add to that waiting for specific fuels, oils, and seals is extremely long at times here in Colorado. Grade 9 and 8 switched out for consumer grade 3 to 4. Collecting new pieces and parts of these vehicles is a widespread illusory assistance to search where for extra replacements, fallen SpaceX debre? Seems like if Colorado can't keep the bolt supply topped off because they aren't making them anymore - why should we expect alternate sources for many things to simply pop up.
So after this,launches I guess Boeing may have to move out of what, 6 or 7 states or more. Go to China because that's what somebody said, and close its doors to leave everything up to them as directed in snide remarks too many times.
Wouldn't that cheer you up?
The embarrassing part for NASA is they (and Boeing) expected that Boeing would be the 'winner' in delivering the manned capsule, leaving the upstart SpaceX in the dust. That is why Boeing got almost double the funding that was allocated to SpaceX. The dismay and frustration of both NASA and Boeing, it is the 'traditional' space contractor Boeing and its legacy internal culture that have failed to achieve even the minimal performance requirements and schedule, losing money all along the way. Meanwhile, SpaceX is turning a profit and launching more flights in any given month than Boeing has managed in over decade.
T and or P stuff will melt the astronauts to the bone.
Fealeil parts do not align. My dad wrks there and said it is a mess.
Amazing they build there planes the same way
Anything to keep boeing going...
It sounds like Boeings safety issues from their 737 models have extended to their space rockets.
😂😂😂
Has anyone looked into the type of seals being used. Sometimes seals don't seal properly according to the type of material is being used. If I were those astronauts I would refuse to fly on that space ship. They need two more flights without humans.
Boing can't even make an air tight tin can.
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and i am sure astronaughts are going to say "if its boeing i aint going"
Like I said yesterday, I wouldn’t buy a glass of water if Boeing was selling it how many more hidden issues are there with the spacecraft?
They need to resolve all these problems before launching anything
Low bid makes wonders
I don't think they were low bid. NASA gave more money to Boeing than SpaceX.
@@paulr4353yes but the parts they get are ....
The sad part is that they weren't even the low bidders!