Camry hybrid upgrade to lithium, installation tips and tricks and MPG test, gas saver!
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- In this episode we demonstrate the step by step procedure to swap the stock NiMH battery with the Nexcell lithium upgrade battery on a 2012 Camry hybrid, Jack shares a lot of tips and tricks and also perform a before and after MPG test! The result is simply amazing.
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This is amazing and i cant believe its just a a drop in solution! I run a 09 Camry hybrid with 475,000 kms, good to see this is a replacement option to keep them going.
We had hundreds of Toyota's upgraded from nimh to lithium since 2016 with no problems here in jordan .
My nexcell batteries just got delivered today! Im so excited
Would you mind sharing your feedback after 2 months ? What the biggest difference you have notice? Thanks !
@@michelgarciag i can get 60+mpg in stop n go traffic from SF To san jose. Also you can run the ac parked for about 30 minutes before the engine turns on. The battery stays 7/8full most of the time. Aka green.
Ninja turtle 570 Where can I buy Nexcell batteries from? I have a ct200
How did the Nexcell battery work out?
Wish it was more realistic on the results. I upgraded my vehicle and it's getting about the same MPG as before. There was nothing wrong with my old battery and was testing at around 98% battery life with the test. Hopefully it'll be an investment and will last a long time
Hey, do you have any updates ?
Update please
Gas mileage is the same or less and it’s thrown a battery code a few times for one of the modules. Car does seem peppier but a few hiccups here and there with power delivery
Such a great work sir Love from Pakistan
Very interesting. I’m building my own lifepo4 pack and it weighs only 25 lbs. for 18 rows of cells. The whole thing fits in a group 31 battery case.
104 lbs doesn’t sound very fun! I’ll definitely get assistance with it👍
Finish building pack?
question from a NOOB (no knowlege about car and battery) : can I hook up a 10kWh LFP battery on to my 2017 camry hybrid?
Can you give us a link on how you are building them?
Remember that mpg ir 100% reliant on your driving habits and traffic conditions.
Great Video, I found NexGen before this video and wondered this, how long do you estimate - ballpark the Li-Ion batteries will last compared to the factory NiMH? I have a 2007 Camry that the original battery lasted 10 yers and 160K mikes. The replacement in 2017 lasted 2 years and was replaced under a pro rated warranty, that one lasted another 2 years and died in late 2021. So now I'm weighing my options. This car gets driven about 25K miles a year and we would like to keep it a few more years. Let me know your thoughts.
These LIPO4 not lithium ion.
They should last a lot longer based on what I see listed for charge cycles for each chemistry.
1000 for NiMH vs 4000 for LIPO4.
However, in automotive hybrid application it is not as simple as that. These batteries are constantly getting particularly charged and discharged, so one cannot simply compare charge cycles.
LIPO4 also prefers a state of partial discharge over being fully charged.
I guess only time will tell.
I can't wait for an Previa/Estima lithium battery upgrade
Hi so is a simple swap without adjustment on other component , the HV ECU that manage the charging and discharging the Battery ?
What would it take to make this a Plug-in battery? Even a 5 mile range would cover most around town trips...
All the PHEV conversion kits available in the market doesn't really turn the car into true EV, in other words the engine still kicking in quite often, I would suggest to save the money and buy a real PHEV made by Toyota :)
Liked the external big screen 😅
1 you really need to pull the disconnect FIRST before the removal of the power cables
2 what are the hours to start to finish on that job?
3 Please be careful of your back, you are young, but you will do damage to your L4L5 lumbar with age, I know been there bought the T-shirt.
Hi! So are you saying that when I take my Camry hybrid NiMH in for a battery replacement (years from now), I can request the replacement be a Lithium ion battery instead of NiMH? That would be wonderful.
You are professional mechanic. Dealing with high voltage without protection gloves 🧤.
There is no high voltage once you pull the orange plug out.
You should remove the safety service plug first before you unbolt the battery from your car because you will be shock if you disconnect the orange wire from the battery without removing the service safety plug
Great Vid. it was time for someone to come up with this option instead of installing another NMh battery...Congratulations !! Question: I have a 2017 Camry with over 100k miles and my battery is showing it it's age.. ( I'm in Fl. lot's of hot days here) On your website the year range for the Camry kit stops at 2016.. would it still be the same kit for the 2017 Camry.. ? I believe it was the last model year (2017) before the restyle from Toyota so I would think it would be the same battery pack ?
2017 should still be in the 8 years factory drivetrain warranty, that's why we don't advertise it, but it should fit!
@hybridapp7158 do you install hybrid battery on 2012 Toyota camry hybrid? If so and you are in the Los Angeles area, where is your workshop?
nice video!
I would like to ask: what is the single cell voltage and current capacity, and how meny kilowatts the original battery have?
Great job
Hi, I was looking forward to buy A lithium battery pack for my 2014 lexus es300h but it is sold out. When will you have more of these on inventory. I need to replace the traction battery as soon as possible.
Where you get those double modules and for how much
I think the only benefit is the weight.. the disadvantages are too many.. reduced life, heating, temperature restraint..
Strong man
The video doesn't show how the temperature sensors are connected to the nexcell blades. The original Toyota blades appear to have the sensor holes on the bottom but the nexcell blades have the sensor holes on the top. Should I reroute the temperature sensor harness across the top or am I missing something?
Great video Jack! What was the model type of the Camry? L, LE, SE, XLE, or LE Limited Edition? Ok, saw from the video it was the LE!
I think lowest trim? no navigation, no backup camera.
Would dielectric grease work on the connections as well?.. or is there something better about that spray?
I'm more eager to see the LFP battery for Estima....
Hello Jack, is there any plan in the future for extending EV range by adding an additional battery?
Why?
@@frodiesel0 In theory, you can extend the time you are in EV only mode in town.
Theoretically would you see improved usable capacity compared to a new toyota battery? I was under the impression Toyota monitors current as well as voltage to determine state of charge so there is a ceiling to the usable capacity. Just a bit more hybrid capacity would really benefit someone like me that lives on a mountain pass.
Where did you get the lithium cells sir ?
Do you know anybody in the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex that does this?
Bro be carefull im not a expert but it looks like you plugged in the circiut disconect and the pricceded to intsall the high voltage battery lines 👀 ? Or am i missing something?
Where is the 1st module or #1 locate? Right to left, left to right???
Hi Jack, I have a 2007 prius and plan to do the li-upgrade when the greenbean battery dies. I am looking at buying a highlander (7 seater) hybrid and was curious if you had any idea what I might get for mpg on these w/ the lithium upgrade.. it would be years 2007 through 2013. Thanks - Brock
So the hybrid battery management system is the same between the nimh battery vs li-on battery?
Can you do an acceleration test on this camry?
Where can I buy swap kit for the Camry AHV40 with delivery to Russia?
I like it. Will it burn up the stock Inverter? motor? has anyone tried in a longer term? very nice otherwise.
I didn't see How much was the Lithium Battery pack compared to Stock? I have the same exact car so will definitely keep this in mind when time to upgrade!! I'm still on stock battery and can get 45 to lil over 50 MPH with NGK Iridium IX surprisingly have gotten an extra 5 plus mpg from the spark plugs and with Fuel saving tires with a k and N filter I can get over 50 if I baby her and roughly around 46with cheaper tires and that's with no A.c or heat of course as those change everything.....
Where can I find pricing on a plug in modification kit with LiFePo replacement battery?
can you install more battery packs and get 20 miles of ev miles?
Hi just watch this video and wheee are located and how much will it cost if I buy a Camry with dead hybrid battery
Can we know the power tools you use?
Move to Florida!
All joke aside how much this exchange would cost? To aprox calculate the return of investment
Great video. Hows ur gen3 w/gen4 ICE running? I JUST rewatched both videos! 👍
I had 33 mpg on my camry xv50 with 205r miles. does there any meaning to change battery? I love my car but its old and has accidents.
I am babysitting my car and I get 32 mpg, it's driving me nuts. There must be something wrong with it since I can't get more than 32mpg
Is it same for Avalon 2016 Hybrid? Thanks and looking forward to hearing soon.
Please tell us where we can get these I've been looking and I cant find them
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I enjoyed watching this lithium swap. I have a 2007 Camry hybrid which died on me many times, then I replaced the individual cells multiple times, finally I got a 2017 battery pack from junk yard similar exact same configuration as the one in this video, I ended up swapping the 2017 cells to 2007 camry, since then it is running fine, however I am only getting 34 MPG. I am not sure this par with first generation camry hybrid. I was wondering if I do the battery conditioning using hybrid automotive charger and discharger , would that improve the MPG ? May be in the future I would like to swap with your lithium battery.
The epa estimate for the 2007 Camry Hybrid is around 33mpg combined with the stock NiMH battery.
Can I use the Hyundai Sonata lithium polymer cells on Camry 2010?
Are there anymore updates with this camry?
How much is a lithium battery cost
Where we can buy new cells?
Will this work with 2019 camry hybrid? I see the battery in my model is in a different spot
We have same year model car here in Australia, only driven 95000km, battery life shows 85% as per your app. Is it possible to make it phev by using your Lithium cells? Also, you engaged the disconnect at 15.50 and then connected high voltage cables? Should the high voltage disconnect not be installed after connecting high voltage cables?
sorry I failed to show that I've measured the voltage at the main terminal and make sure it is 0 volt ! PHEV conversion is a waste of time and money, too many moving parts and not really getting the "true PHEV benefit".
Pleas I am don’t know how to contact u to get a set of this lithium battery for my 2009 Toyota Camry. Kindly direct me pleas
How can I buy this battery packs?
Do you think that would be efficient on a Lexus CT ? Thx a lot for this vid, asking if it would be possible on a facebook group made me taken for a fool...
Do Toyota come with regen braking on hybrid cars?
Yes.
Any upgrades for a q50 hybrid
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He replaced the metal halide battery with a new lithium battery.
were i can get the upgrade kit
Hi Jack. I would like to buy that for my prius 2011. May I know where to purchase? Thanks ;)
Hi Bert, please visit our website at ProjectLithium.com , make sure to pick the correct model year.
What!!!!! Huge difference!!! What would be the cost for the conversation?
Never mind, just saw the price. This is pretty straightforward and easy. Can you do a follow up of more live results along with new 0-60 times?
Link buy battery please 😊
since the battery is 104 lbs. im not gonna do it. thanks for the advice.
That's pretty good just one question which battery is a bigger fire when it fails?
The battery's load balance is done by car bms itself without another devices? What is the detail battery model you buy from NEXcell and what is the diagnose hardware and app you used for I didn't got clearly in the video. thx for your sharing and hope you can give above infomation to me:)
Dr Prius is the app he's using
Hi Can you install my batteries ? Im in the los Angeles area. Are you in California ?
Random question can I take the battery out and the car still run on jus the engine
Dealer said not advised because of the car is designed to Ren at lower speeds on the battery. Mine tends to try to kick in at lower speeds and the the battery doesn't kick in on larger acceleration
I have a Camry 2009 can I swap it to a hybrid engine (the 2009 Camry hybrid engine)? Is it easy or too hard
Too hard. Sell it and buy a hybrid
Nah my Camry hybrid shoots up way over 53+ mpg too when I reset the mileage odometer 😂
It’ll normalize after a couple of weeks of driving…
LiFePO4 batteries have different charge parameters than NiMH batteries. Shouldn't the BMS be changed as well? I don't understand how this can be ignored.
I see this comment all the time.. hybrid car doesn't use the battery like your cell phone, it doesn't charge to 100% and discharge to 0. it only uses about 40% of the battery reserve, right in the middle to keep the battery alive for a long time. if you over lay the small window of the charge used with the same section of the lithium charge graph you'll see they are close enough to work just fine in these applications while being lighter and more power dense.
@@jsomething2 While that makes sense, I was not comparing to a cell-phone, but rather RV's etc. However, thinking about that, RV's use LiFePO4 batteries, and those usually have built-in BMS's that do require different charge parameters.
You are right though that keeping the charge/discharge range between 25 - 75% keeps the batteries live much longer.
Thanks for your reply. My wife's hybrid car will soon need new batteries and your system looks like an excellent choice.
@@JANtheDane oh its not my system at all, I just see the comment everywhere. I'm not trying to sell you haha. I'm just saying comparing say the rv batteries, factory those are lead acid right? so basically no charge controls at all. just an alt putting out 13.7v and whatever amps it can. these cars have nmhi batteries, so they have a full computer control charge routine already. so the question is can these batteries live a long time in that routine. they seem to think so, only time will tell I guess as more get out there with say 5 years on them.
I've seen some reference to them being tested on taxi prius and they are working.
@@JANtheDane I do feel like if they fail this guy will talk about it on depth and he's installed them.
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@@jsomething2 I replaced my Lead-Acid battery with two LiFePO4 batteries in my RV. This also involved replacing the converter and the solar controller.
Those batteries have built-in BMS's that take care of the charging limits for long life. While you can use a normal converter/charger, the charging parameters are lower voltage and will limit the LiFePO4 batteries to a max of 80%. Thus, you will not get the full benefit of the Lithium technology.
More important, Lithium batteries will draw whatever power is available to them and therefore they can overload the source (the alternator or generator). I noticed a draw in excess of 150 Amps from my alternator and this caused me to install a DC-DC charger that limits the current.
I would be concerned that installing LiFePO4 batteries (Which the ones in the video are) could overload the Toyota charging system and bring on a much bigger problem. Before I go this route with my wife's Camry Hybrid, I will ask the seller these questions.
BTW, if I increase the AH per battery, will it help the mpg test?
Hi, can you please add Closed Caption or Subtitle English on this video, so I will read whole what you was saying I will understand better? I am deaf cannot hear or read your lip well. Thanks!
Hi Jack
Impressive what you did to that Camry, I have concerns regarding battery explosion and fires, when would this happen to Lithium replacement batteries?
LiFePO4 cells are probably the least likely to cause fires because most just get hot and eventually stop working. lookup “greatscott lithium battery safety comparison”
i think you're tricking people that the gas mileage is better. can you do a single take video drving in a loop for 5 minutes. because you could have driven downhill after resetting the MPG meter... the took a video when it read 56 mpg
The weight savings alone is going to result in better fuel mileage. I don't imagine it'd be worth it if your battery is in good shape, but if you're needing to replace it anyways, might as well use the better cells. If they ever go back in stock again, at least.
DO NOT UNDER ANY SURCUMSTACES DO YOU EVER LEAVE THE MAIN BATTERY INTERLOCK IN THE BATTERY!!!!!! YOU WILL DIE!!!