We Discover Old Railway Locomotives at Tebay Station/Yard Over 50 Years after it shut!!!!
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2021
- Welcome to the new Thomas Edward video where I stumbled across two British railway loco's Locally to me who are dinosaurs of the yesterday year. and we also learn some interesting local history on the site they are sat on now as well as hints to the new videos to come in future!
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You are obviously as mad as a box of drunken badgers - brilliant, man I can trust, subbed, love yer style mate
You know the saying "Mad English Man"........ But no it's all showbiz too!
A true English eccentric fabulous 👌😢
@@FredWilbury Not many of us left is this world specially the younger end got keep it alive.
@@ThomasEdward Thanks!
@@FredWilbury A great character. An old soul. Sending love from Texas, U.S.A.
Very enjoyable that my friend, thankyou!
No worries glad was enjoyable watch had fill it out much as possible becuase didn’t have lot of filming in person.
My Dad grew up in one of the Railway houses on, I think, North Terrace. My grandad did 46 years for British Railways living there and my dad, after his National Service, went on to be a Fireman for LMS. 👍🏻
WOW! So your blood is rich with railway history I bet there's some family history to tell isn't there? Tebay Railway history fascinating there's wonder replay in tebay Church what's actually proper railway built church.
Dai Woodham was a businessman. I don't think preservation was really his ideology, rather that he realised the locos were more valuable if he could sell them whole rather than cut up and scrapped... There was a rule that said locos sent for scrap couldn't be sold onwards whole, so he had that rule rescinded, which probably unknowingly from his point of view kick started the preservation movement. But like I said though, I think Woodham was more motivated by profit than a desire to "save" these locos, but enthusiasts have him to thank for these locos still being around and running today.
The initiative to allow scrap locos to be sold on by scrap merchants was started by railway preservationists, not by the scrap merchants, it was hoped to rescue locos from Barry as so few were left then
In Dai Woodhams interview (on youtube), he stated that they were too busy cutting wagons for the locos to be cut up. It was just by chance the locos survived.
Fascinating story of the 92219 - I certainly didn’t see that coming! Another interesting video which is only enhanced by your personal recollections and family photos, thank you.
Thank you very much Alfred 92219 such interesting engine. luckily got big back log of family photos of lots different places and my own because I’ve oways been photographer and had camera seens I was 10 years ago.
Great video TE you are an excellent presenter and very knowledgeable cheers 🥂
Another great video !
Nice one Thomas, love a bit of history 👍 It's good to keep the past like this alive. So much is forgotten these days. CZcams is the perfect place to preserve it 😁
I stumbled across this after my model railway videos I normally watch. A very interesting video mate and well presented thanks !😉
Thank you very much really appreciate it! Well stick around there could be model railway stuff to come in my early teens I had proper 00 Gauge layout but when I studied music I sold it all but ive kept a Bachmann class 55 "Meld" to one day return to layout I'll design and make.
Evening TE Still catching up lol 😆 That was really well documented and presented 😊 I can remember going to Dai Woodham Brothers steam graveyard in the 70s it was so sad seeing all those engines rusting away 😩 He thought it would be easier cutting up wagons first as it was quick. Then realised that people wanted to purchase them. I’m sure they all got bought……..💁 I’ll look out for that 9F when I’m passing in my XF 106 Daffy Duck lol 😆
Thanks for the upload, it's a very interesting story behind the 9f
I really enjoyed this video, first one of yours I've seen. Definately subscribed for more. I like the way you researched a bit of history - much better than some on here who just look at what they see without thinking about the past. Loved the buses storming up the Pennines too!
Research on any project is key and I have lot knowledge already when I'm presenting the Videos just nice bring up maps and old photos and see how generations before us did things. There lots more to come on channel but have look back through my videos half dozen lost railway videos what will interest you.
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
Superb presentation skills, Genuine, honest passion, a real character is Thomas. I'm hoping you get some recognition an bigger views, you could easily easily be on the mainstream TV programmes. I've watched quite a lot of old railway youtube channels, this is one of my faves due to your presentation and research. I also found the yard at Tebay and had a mooch around whilst I was spotting some Avanti pendos speed by.
Wow, thank you no way!! Never thought I'd see the day I'd get comment off true hero love your channel got hooked because my older brother is big fan of yours he's oways sending me your Videos. Tebay there's some interesting history up there I'm going back to do lot more soon!
All Videos I make sure that my audience learns with a laugh 😂 and it's true entertainment or as I call it showbiz!
Lot railway channels too serious and bit boring in some ways so with my natural Northern character and confidence In front of camera I've flip the normal railway Video on it's head. I've done some fantastic Videos what normally would be quite dull. Like I've just done lost other railways of Fleetwood what's interesting twist.
And the dream is to be on TV even know it's dead game now with all this internet but who knows what will happen in future.
Thanks. Driven past a few times over this weird year. Knew it was a 20, but can't see enough from the road to be sure it was a 9F. Though I did wonder if it was a late BR steamer 👍
Used to get hauled by double headed 20s on the Nottingham to Skeggy summer trains as a kid. And occasionally saw hope Valley some trains with 4 of them. A 40 & 25 paired was more usual.
Used to see lines of the things at Tinsley too, with a few peaks & 56s
Sorry missed this comment bit slow there. Yeah! now you know hey over years oways been something interesting at tebay in that yard. Only knew about buxton class 20 because got family member who was driver there they seemed to have there own set rules in peak Forrest with engines 😂😂 I know later years they have class 56s up there but remember getting told originally when took one up there it couldn't handle the ICI wagons.
Tebay was a clean well-managed steam shed. It provided bankers for the climb to Shap - standard 4MTs latterly, though not as good as the similarly powered tanks which preceded them.
Very interesting. Thank you for uploading. New subscriber here
Welcome to Thomas Edward channel where I film lots local history video and share my passion for cars too so there's subject for everyone. Glad you found it interesting I actually need go back do for in depth station video and line diagram explaining like I do on my "Lost Railways Of Morecambe" series.
Like the new video.take care.
Thank you well there be even newer video dropping soon on local railway history
@@ThomasEdward ok will look out for them take care
Thanks Thomas, very interesting to see the old 9F waiting to be restored. Tebay services is very interesting as the only privately owned services on the motorway network.
9F very interesting subject I'm glad I documented it for reference within modern history. Yeah that's what's great about tebay services and Cumbria it's self everything is set 20 years ago we don't move on with times much up here. part from lake district where there's too much moved in money rest of Cumbria is old skool way it should be and just gets on with things.
Gloucester Services on the M5 is run by the same outfit. I always stop there purely because Tebay is so great!
Enjoyable video too!
my favourite steam loco, and my favourite diesel loco in one video! liked and subscribed, thanks!
I'm glad put your two favourite locomotives in one video plenty more to come what you might enjoy too!
Great video, really enjoyed this, so have just subscribed to you.
Appreciate the sub. Lots more to come on TE channel see your fellow car enthusiast like me check out my build on MG ZR 160 on channel might be something your into.
You know your trains very interesting video thankyou for this....
I remember the bankers that were kept at Tebay shed. I think it was Tebay (and not Oxenholme) but there were stories that monks were occasionally seen crossing the line and occasionally walking thtough the shed yard still retracing a path from an abbey to their monastic grange. I don't discount this as I had a quite serious friend who had a similar experience in North Somerset-they came through a hedge and crossed the road in front of him. When he related the experience he was told it was quite all right as people often saw them!
Absolutely love them story's through our family's railway connection I've heard couple stories like that. Fascinating stuff uses live on very old farm and all sorts of goings on happened from generations going back. Love do Halloween special along them lines wink wink 😉...........
Enjoyed that so much I subscribed
That's what we like to hear here at the TE channel. Do be aware I do lots local history but there is lot videos I do what are cars photography and about famous people. I will present anything takes my interest.
Just a thought. I think you should sell merchandise. Would love a coffee mug or t shirt with you dressed in all your "clobber"
Well head you there’s lots to come just trying keep it surprise before big 1k Subs
Really enjoyed this thanks for showing. Fred
Thank you for dropping by nice to know when people have enjoyed there selfs with my videos. There's great lost local railway video dropping tomorrow hopefully. BTW this video done incredibly well last 48 hours where did you find it has it been shared somewhere?
@@ThomasEdward it just popped up on my CZcams feed home page 👌
@@FredWilbury Very Interesting that is I thought it had been shared somewhere.
Really enjoyed your video, bit of history, bit of this and that all well put together, and plenty of enthusiasm! I worked near Barry in the early 70s and remember seeing all the locos there. Just out of uni so sadly couldn’t afford to buy one. Subbed.
Welcome onboard the TE channel glad have you with us.
I bet it was fascinating seeing all engines lined up back then I oways love listening to family tales of going there.
There be lots videos to come very similar and there’s past videos on channel what are good watch too.
Fabulous video.. the electrical multiple unit at 7:54 is a class 502 which was used on the merseyrail network until they went out of service around 1977-78 and replaced with the cl 507-508 which were due to be replaced in 2020 but hasn't happened as yet..
Loved this too, keep up the good work 👍🏻😎
Thank you Sue love hearing your support! Really appreciate it there’s going be so much stuff coming to channel what you’ll enjoy.
@@ThomasEdward great 😎
Makes me wish I had a Time Machine ..... I really wish we could roll the clock back .... another great insight into the time some of us grew up in cheers H
Yeahmy uncle oways says if he could go back to 1970s with money he has now he would I think it spark his head because we been watching life on mars recently.
@@ThomasEdward Fire Up the Quattro
Nice work Tom, subscribed.
Thank you very much! Stay tuned More to come Thomas 😊
First video I've watched of yours, nice relaxed presentation style. Made me laugh when you said at the end for us to ring that bell `Tinnnggg' Subscribed.
Like I oways say learn with laugh is my Moto in this game. Because some presenters can be to straight and do it by book to get noticed you need flare and character. You'll have watch some my back catalogue there is some car videos but don't be put off because they are good watch to non car people. Thank you for commenting TE.......
@@ThomasEdward I've already started watching your back catalogue, very good. What county do you come from to have that accent (sorry to be nosey 👃 ) nice to hear a regional accent ! I'm down South so I like Midlands / Northern accents as opposed to our boring Southern ones haha.
@@Martindyna I'm west Cumbrian originally I'd say cumbria manly but depending where you live this county you we have different accents. so lived to very recently central lake district for 10 years so got mash all sorts. But do like accents your way specially a Notts accent is so lush some wonderful way with words there.
@@ThomasEdward Thanks Thomas & yes Notts is good. I've been on holiday to the Lakes many years ago, the tea tasted so good there (naturally soft water I believe) that i drank too much and found it difficult to fall asleep haha. Amazes me that regional accents don't disappear over time (all blend into one) but I'm glad they don't ! Keep up the good work.
3 class 20s equal a class 60 !! I burst out laughing at that point. A useless bit of information. ... this is exactly the sort of thing I say and the way I think too ... what a great video.. great stuff. Keep them coming.
That’s what Buxton did in late 80s when they were delayed on class 60 order I love useless information like that fun little thing. You’ve learned something with laugh That’s my Job is completed. Glad you enjoyed the video
So how many class 20s does a 9F equal? Definitely more than two.
Class 20169 according to an article in the March Rail Express magazine, enjoyable stuff as ever !
Knew someone would have number somewhere. Remember when it was at kirkby stephen and on special days he’d run his Diesel’s on tick over think all stopped when some thefts happened on them unfortunately.
You in my home again hahaha
TE here been all over your backyard! This was my first viral video above. I've actually got lot videos in works still your area lol
You can drive the line on Train Simulator, WCML over Shap is a very well made DLC for the simulator and you get to throw 87's up and down a treat. BTW the orange line is known in slang terms as the "sizzle line" because you stick your turnip over the orange line in overhead situations and you are going to end up with a pretty fun sizzle moment as 25KvAC gives you a right good roasting lol
Impressive video and I must say how knowledgeable you are . And you sound just like Guy Martin as well which is always a plus . Well done and keep up the good work .
Haha your first to see Guy Martin Tone to my voice people said that to me for years I've never seen it tbh. Stay tuned for some true showbiz entertainment to come lots in pipe line.
@@ThomasEdward more than that you slightly look like him lol . Guy as we all know is a true hero . Hope your life takes you to at least a fraction of what his is and you will do well . I will be keeping an eye on your site in future and wish you the best of luck
@@retrowatches1655 I've Read all his book like I read anything like that. well it's Career I've been trying get into seens my teens from studying music not finding buzz I wanted but been my interesting self in front of camera is my buzz I've wanted and been in entertainment family I can handle camera and talking to one very well. Without looking wooden and scared of it like lot of people. Goal is get into TV one day even know it's dead game with the internet now it's still my showbiz drive.
The first video of yours I've seen. You remind me of Fred Dibnah, a hero of mine. I've subscribed.
What a fascinating video, I
love this history, been past a thousand times but never seen the yard at Tebay. The line over to Tebay was the iron-ore run I think over the Belah viaduct 👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it! I'm going back to do more on Tebay next year specially the steam shed.Have you watched my dillicar Video of the water troughs what were near Tebay?
Yes that's right on the statinmore line.
@@ThomasEdward yes I have, great history pal👍
Interesting.
The 502 ex merseyrail is now being nicely restored at a site in Burscough lancs.
Years ago a buddy that operated a big backhoe was digging next to some train tracks in downtown Atlanta and found a mangled but complete steam locomotive. Everyone got excited, authorities were called and an old historian showed up. He asked for specific places on the loco to be dug clear, looked closely to identify and declared “yea it broke down, tied up the main track and would cost to much to remove so they dug a hole beside the tracks and pushed it over then buried it.
I've heard similar stories over here but makes senses where you are because your steam engines are huge beasts specially if broken down middle no where cost money and back then lots man hours hardly any machinery to move it. One love come state side in search of American steam!
I remember seeing them 502's stabled up outside the underground area of Liverpool rail, used to pass them daily when going in from Kirkby or Fazakaerly then one day they were all gone, replaced by horrible PEP's
I remember the 9F at Buxton. I don't think it had a tender even then. Thanks Thomas. I wondered what happened to. Sad. Should be covered properly as all the stock at Tebay if they are serious about saving them.
Fascinating! Thank you. I need to take a class on your English dialect. What an accent! Best wishes to you.
Well it's west Cumbrian accent originally. But lot people say got same tone as Guy Martin but I don't see the similarities. Just way I speak and talk really. Glad you enjoyed the video plenty more to come.
@@ThomasEdward Very kind response to my teasing you! Best wishes. I will sub.
Cracking vid, always thought those houses looked out of place when i drive past on the M6, now i know. Have you not asked the owner of you can get a closer look at the engines?
You actually get in yard from other end it’s industrial estate but that day wasn’t time was going somewhere else’s was unplanned video in a way.
Houses and buildings you can oways tell when they Railway like at oxenholme Kendal there’s row house near WCML and they no where near the station.
very interesting watch never knew about tebay being a big junction
Oh yeah dose not look it now big uses to be big junction with shed and yard full of activity
Line off to Kirkby Stephen to the north. But not far south, the line from Low Gill that ran through Ingleton went off as well. Plus banking engines for Shap
Visit the church in Tebay - that was built by the railway and has memorials to railway workers, including those killed by the runaway ballast wagon a few years back (2007?)
@@GuanajuatoUK Thanks for commenting I didn’t mention too much in video ie banking because I want to spread them across more videos because otherwise too much take in on one video.
Thanks for the info. Another steam loco tucked away in a relatively unknown corner of the North West.
I witnessed something pretty similar at a tiny PS site near, I think, Pontypool. The locos were just rusting away out in the open, no shroud, no cover, shed, nothing at all.
Things have to be very bad when you scrape together enough money to buy a group of steam locos then funding runs out for anything else. Zero development, nothing doing. That’s very negative.
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We've had quite lot watch channel from USA recently fantastic have you onboard the TE channel
My father Fired and Drove mineral trains out of West Auckland Shed 51F to Tebay and Return over Stainmore Summit.
The orange line on that roof is a Cant Rail line. It to show how high you can go up the side of a train if it is under O.H.L.E. Any higher brings you too close to the wires.
I guess I am kinda off topic but does anyone know of a good place to stream newly released series online?
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@Major Gustavo glad I could help xD
20169 is the 20 at Kirkby Stephen East Station
Yeah! I know uses look at it with the class 37 just made this video more for 9F fans because good story
Clearly there were some oddities with the numbering of the 9F class in that, while 92220 Evening Star was the last one built, the class numbering extended all the way up to 92250- indicating that the numbering was out of sequence with the build order
That was a very interesting piece of railway history. Let us hope that the 9F can be restored.
Looks all very positive for the 9F's return to the lines with boiler work coming soon. Hopefully this Little video might boost its fam.
Very interesting 👍
No idea if deliberate or coincidence but yer tone and style is very reminiscent of Fred Dibnah, the legendary lover all all things engineering.
Keep up the good work bud!
Your not the first and won’t be last to say sound like Fred or guy Martin I don’t see similarities I just been my self on camera I’m originally west Cumbrian that’s where my accent comes from. Thank you for stopping by glad you enjoyed it
@@ThomasEdward oh it was meant as a compliment, Fred style on camera and the clear passion for the topic is why I (and many others) found him enthralling. You may only see yourself but I see many of the same great qualities.
A future legend in the making I’m sure
@@dannygmtg Oh I see! Hehe Thank you very really appreciate it means a lot some greats fans and support on TE channel already with my broad knowledge topics. I have been brought up around entertainment though that’s why I come across quite confidence on camera.
You don’t see many 2-10-0 locomotives these days, TE.
Merry Christmas 🎄
Yes indeed you don't good looking engines aren't they?
But they never really got used to the full like they were designed for.
Hi there great video mate but I was far more interested in the 20! Best wishes and take care
Oh the wardrobe as some say good engines like!
the class 502 emu is being restored at the old Burscough Airfield in a hanger by the group that own it
No way!! Need go and see that in future have they made much progress on it?
@@ThomasEdward yes there is the 502 facebook friends of the 502
Spotted those the other week from the village but didn't have time to go look. Thanks for the video
Thank you for commenting that's what I'm here for so you don't have to 😂😉 Something locally ive had on my head for ages just wanted to film them turned out into nice Little video.
I was going to make the point that it is the last but one loco built by British Railways. I did actually see it being assembled on an open day at Swindon Works - unbelievable waste of money building locos which should have been good for forty years and then scrapping them after four. Many thanks!
Just checked here: shedbashuk.blogspot.com/2015/10/swindon-works-1958-1960.html?m=1. My visit was 27 Sept 1959 when they were building 92213 to 92216, so they hadn’t quite got to 92219. Only time I ever saw steam locos being assembled though. Happy memories!
It should probably be scrapped now though. It's in a terrible state and probably needs to be cut. There's little hope of restoration, it would cost 1 million. There's plenty of other 9Fs preserved so may as well get 30k for the scrap.
The biggest problem with 9Fs is they are hugely over powered for most preserved lines, and unlike the big passenger locos, they are banned from the national network. They were good locos though, intended for heavy freight but occasionally they were thrown on to passenger jobs where they proved to be very capable machines, one of which even rescuing the flying Scotsman (The train not the loco) in the Gateshead area.
Probably why don't see them on east lancs etc only prob couple good preserved lines you could run them properly. I don't honestly know too much about 9F I'm more 8f kinda guy tbh Thank you for dropping the comment much appreciated.
@@ThomasEdward give me a 28xx any day! But realistically anything in the class 7, 8 or 9 range are wasted on preserved lines, some of the lads from the Moors may argue that point, but for the rest of us, we can shift our trains quite happily with a pannier tank
It’s all down to the wide flangeless centre driving wheel being incompatible with crossover check rails on modern track.
The blue roof would have been off a DRS class 20
Thomas this is the first of your videos I've seen. Why did I think Fred Dibnah?
Hey Fred Let Me guess is it Northern broad accent?? Thank you for dropping by loads TE back catalogue for much much more interesting history and couple cars videos what might add pealing to the non car people too!
Are they preserved or abandoned
If you've watched it all way through and listen to what I say.
I talk about the guy who owns them and what plans are with them as it stand now 2021
The Woodhams didn’t preserve the locos at the yard for any other reason than that the huge numbers of wagons were more than enough to bring in the cash and quickly. The locos took a lot longer to demolish so it made more sense to work on the wagons and so the locos were left and so that worked by accident for the hit from the preservation societies a few years later
Yeah that's right indeed! All interesting how things happened with reason like that in the industry.
Do trace the source of that river, if you can. I'd look forward to that.
Oh yes it's definitely in the Thomas Edward Diary 📔
Hi Thomas Would you like an original photo of 92219 still with its tender which I took in Barry about 1980 ??
Yes please! That would be fabulous my email is below the videos.
Ay up lad, are you from't Cumbria lad? Are you 't local lad?
Very Cumbrian lad here! originally west coast Cumbrian.
I wish it was against the law to treat these beauties like that.
I know! It's like all wonderful classic cars what get scrapped what are too good to scrap. But luckily the 9F is getting the work it needs soon.
@@ThomasEdward Well done! Thank you for helping to get these rare treasures saved!!
@@ThomasEdward That is great to hear. Over here in Australia finally we have the beautiful green 3801 Steam locomotive back on the rails after a 10 year absence too.
It is running pretty much every weekend now.
Tidy looking E36 at 6:08
Getting rare to see now a days they are!
@@ThomasEdward getting that way yea, and going up in value too. Wonder how long it will be before my e46 goes the same way 🤷♀️
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Just like MG ZR 160s long keep car stock and don't mess about with it there money will be good when time is right. See on my channel I'm doing MG ZR 160 rescue at the moment returning it back to Factory fresh look
@@ThomasEdward sweet will have a look. Feel free to have a butchers at my channel. I’m going the other way with a Shitroen C1,.. I’ve done numerous distasteful mods like fitting loads of aftermarket Chineese tat to it 😂
Of course 3000hp across 12 driving axles is a far more sure-footed beast than 3000hp across 6 \m/
Though its worth noting that class 60s are fitted with wheel creep technology which somewhat evens them up in the adhesion department.
@@ThomasEdward true \m/
That train was moving
WCML Some passenger stuff can be doing up to 125MPH but through lowball area where filmed think they got speed limit on that section.
Has that ex Merseyrail emu ended up down south now ?
Read through the comments there's someone saying groups got and it's having full restoration.
A friend of mine said it's in Burscough, good to hear it's being restored.
Look forward to seeing more MG videos mate 😊
@@chrisbury4635 Yeah! So many great engines getting restored around the country at moment. There's Car video coming up next but it isn't a Noel one it's part 2 of other video I've done before won't say too much because it's a surprise
Sounds like Malcolm Young narrating this
Really you think so?
@@ThomasEdward yes
@@ThomasEdward yes we did a conference with them on the stiff-upper-lip tour in St Catharines Ontario
@@rongraham1765 No way Can't beat bit of Showbiz that's subject could talk about all day.
@@ThomasEdward I toured with a band called scorcher Dan McMaster that signed on with Jason Bonham band and then I went got a job on base scrubbing toilets