Kentucky Derby 2024 Replay Analysis | Mystik Dan Wins Photo Finish Over Sierra Leone, Forever Young
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- The Kenny McPeek-trained Mystik Dan won the 2024 Kentucky Derby (G1) at Churchill Downs in a photo finish over Sierra Leone & Forever Young.
This was McPeek's 1st victory in the "Run for the Roses" & followed his 1st career win in the Kentucky Oaks (G1) on Friday.
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This is a trainer that won the Preakness with a Filly, He’s brilliant and doesn’t get enough credit.
Agree 100 Percent. He gets credit by some. But Racing Dudes especially Jared does not care for him. Strange to me.
I didn’t have fierceness on any of my tickets, not even to hit the board, and I still lost.
I absolutely made the worst pick of my life this year. I played the 6 Just Steel . He was slammed at the gate and went out too fast and disappeared into the sunset.
Thank God I won a lot of races Friday and Saturday. I absolutely got killed in the Derby and lost everything I had won for two days. I had 36 boxed 20 times and the three and six in over $500 in bets. 😂😂😂
Mystic Dan had the perfect trip.
Sierra Leone was distracted by the crowd. I had S Leone to win.😮
evidence of why simply picking a horse on simply beyer figure alone is poor handicapping
This is evidence that you can handicap your ass off and then a horse like mystik Dan or rich strike win the race 😂😂😂
He still had a 101 Beyer in the Southwest Stakes, so it showed he had the potential to run a big race. The problem is everybody looks at the last race, but they don't take into account horses, getting bumped etc etc
He Had 2nd Best Beyer i Believe Behind Fierceness
@@teambitcoin7530 His Loss Against Muth Was Not Even a Bad Performance at all
Brutal race for the bettors.
Got that right
NO ONE TOLD MYSTIC DAN IT WASN'T A SLOPPY TRACK! 😅
He ran great at CD as a 2 YO on a Fast Track as well.
You are right Glenn but it was only 5 1/2 F, but 97 speed fig. which was pretty good. Missed it.
Anyone else notice that Larry Collmus botched that race call again? Mystik Dan cut the corner on the rail turning for home and kicked away and Collmus is growling about Resilience taking the lead when Resilience was at least a length and a half back. He didn’t even give Mystik Dan a call until the eighth pole like he was caught off guard again.
Yep he’s had a few bad race calls and this is among his worst again
The top of the stretch seems have been the kryptonite for guest callers at Churchill who are not in the primary announcer's booth over the years...
2006 BC Juvenile: Trevor Denman didn't pick up a runaway Street Sense until deep stretch.
2009 KY Derby: Tom Durkin infamously almost missed the move of Mine That Bird and Calvin Bo-rail
2024 KY Derby: Larry's aforementioned faux pas
Each time, these announcers have focused on mid track and outside horses who are on or moving toward the front end and are missing out on any action along the rail. It's been said it can be a challenge calling the Derby during that critical point in the race from that location.
I guess you can compair with Travis Stone's call if you can find a Churchill reply. Hopefully your ADW is Twinspirels
Mystic Dan had a perfect trip, Fierceness and Mystic Dan were the only two horses with 100+ Beyers. I had Sierra Leone across the board and Sierra and Forever Young in the Oaks/Derby double.
In my opinion, Sierra Leone should have been disqualified for bumping Forever Young the length of the stretch.It was a fantastic race!!
I caught the 2-day pick 3! I love how mystic Dan pushed his way through turning for home, he just pushed track phantom right out of the way and said let me through😅❤
Damn, I just compared fractions of the Oaks and the Derby. Mystic Dan covered the mile in 1:37.46 on a fast track. Thorpedo Anna covered the mile in 1:37.42 in the slop.
I had Mystik Dan at 22-1 fixed odds. I thought the track might come up sloppy, but I still thought it was a pretty good bet, even on a dry track
This baby was born in slop, he loves the slop. His father was a mudder, his mother was a mudder. 😂 if u kno u kno. 🍻
Why did you have him?
My analysis showed he would
finish in 10th or so.
How did you know?
@@bobgreenfield9158 actually I loved him if the track came up sloppy, which it didn't. Bad weather forecast by me, but look at the electrifying move he made in the Southwest Stakes. Even though I made the bet on Friday, I felt it was still a good bet on a dry track. The trainer & jockey had already won the Oaks with a similar training pattern. He also had an excuse in the Arkansas Derby, where he got bumped and lost a few lengths, but he still fought back to finish okay. I had a few other bets on some long shots, basically wasting money, but a few $20 and $40 wasted bets don't mean much, when you cash a big ticket at 22-1 (future bet I made in a sports book). I also figured Sierra Leone would be there, but may not quite get there, so I put him for second and hit the exacta for a few bucks.
Don't feel too bad guys. The guys from HHH podcast had $1,000 ticket at 150-1 on Sierra
About 18 months ago it seemed like you guys were down on McPeek. His ROI was pretty good. He did great with Swiss Skydiver. In fact he will get some Hall of Fame votes eventually. He is great at finding value at auctions. Lots to like with him.
Blabbered on about Fierceness ALL WEEK LONG !!!!!
Honestly, they clearly stated Fiercest couldn't be trusted! You couldn't trust which Fiercest would show up. They were right!
Perfect trip by Mystik Dan. Saved all the ground. Similar training pattern to the Oaks winner
Yea Sierra Leone was the better horse but Dan had the trip
Mystik DAN had the second fastest speed figure in the race out of 20 horses that told me he had good chance
The japanese horse was the best horse in the race, sierra leone bump forever Young to many times...
Which Japanese horse? The front runner who is dead last chopped in half? Runs past 4 or five gets slammed again and then storms past 15 horses?
@@jantzfitzgerald6115 forever Young
@jcdeleaud I bet Forever Young with Dan in an exacta box for 20$ and on top of a high five 3/11 3/11 with 2 4 8 10 19. I also bet two separate tickets with the 10. Trust me the 10 is a FRONT RUNNER, yet after trouble, he passed 14 horses to get paid for 5th. I know a monster when I see one. The 2 the 10 and the 11 will all be better than Dan at the longer distances. I'm not taking anything away from him he got a ballsy ride from a very good jockey, but I seriously doubt he's a better animal than Sierra or Forever and if T. O. really is as versatile as the Derby suggests he will be a beast.
Fierceness got roughed up and quit, just like he did the last time he lost. Can't train that away. We faded Fierceness for exactly that reason and popped a relatively cheap exacta box with ease.
For me, winning a horse race oftentimes comes down to intuition, a moderate amount (!) of past performance study, along with a good measure of luck. After the soaking rain on Friday (at Churchill) and possible scattered rain showers in the forecast for Saturday, I paired Sierra Leone and Mystik Dan (2,3) in a 20.00 Exacta boxed bet (costing $40.00). I knew Mystik Dan ran well previously in the mud and thought he could be up there for second (at a good price) so I just went with it. By race time the track had mostly dried out, but I left the bet the way it was, no changes - I learned THAT lesson years back. With Dan coming in for first, at 18-1, my "times-ten" Exacta ticket (at the $2.00 payout level) paid $2,585.00 to the penny. I did play a couple of other Exactas, but I think those horses came in sometime after dark. Since I boxed the bet, I still would have cashed had Sierra Leone won, with Mystik Dan for second, but, of course, the payout would have been much less. Good luck to all on the next big race!
Fierceness is not Nyquist, he's Always Dreaming. All it took was a challenge to expose Fierceness for what he is.
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂they forgetting he draw a unlucky post to begin
I still believe what I said last week in that Forever Young is/was the best 3yr old. To travel the way he did, the jockey never racing hear nor the horse. It barely lost. Mystic Dan ran a great race with a great ride by Hernandez hugging the rail the whole time. Sierra Leone is a absoulete Monster. I think Fierceness is the most dominant on a synthetic type track or where the dirt isn't as deep as it is as churchill. If Book Em Dano comes back to the states watch out
*I* *lost* *$8.20*
Even when I win, I lose money! 🤣 But it’s cool. Still had a great time. Felt great to cash tickets for the first time after 6 years.
My Wagers
$40 Win on #8 Just A Touch
$20 Place on #2 Sierra Leone and #8 JAT
$20 Show on #2 Sierra Leone and #8 JAT
Spent $120. Got back $111.80… 🤣 Hence, the loss of $8.20.
Then on my Bovada, I spent $50 on wagers earlier today parlaying the Derby winner with NBA conference champions.
Dornoch
Celtics wins East/Nugs wins West = $5.89
Celtics wins East/TWolves wins West = $2.86
Mystik Dan
Celtics/Nuggets = $2
Celtics/TWolves = $1
Catching Freedom
Celtics/Nuggets win it all 🏆 = $2.23
Celtics/TWolves win it all🏆 = $1
Catalytic
Celtics/Nuggets = $1
Celtics/TWolves = $1
Just Steel
Celtics/Nuggets = $1.29
Celtics/TWolves = $1
Honor Marie
Celtics/Nuggets = $2
Celtics/TWolves = $1
T O Password
Celtics/Nuggets = $1
Celtics/TWolves = $1
Forever Young
Celtics/Nuggets 🏆 = $2.45
Celtics/TWolves 🏆 = $1
Track Phantom
Celtics/Nuggets = $1
Celtics/TWolves = $1
West Saratoga
Celtics/Nuggets = $1
Celtics/TWolves = $1
Domestic Product
Celtics/Nuggets = $1
Celtics/TWolves = $1
Grand Mo the First
Celtics/Nuggets = $1
Celtics/TWolves = $1
Fierceness
Celtics/Nuggets 🏆 = $6
Celtics/ TWolves 🏆 = $2.10
Society Man
Celtics/Nuggets = $1
Celtics/TWolves = $1
Epic Ride
Celtics/Nuggets = $1
Celtics/TWolves = $1
The numbers are the prices on how much do I need to bet to hit minimum of $100. I couldn’t lose this Derby because I covered every horse this time. I wasn’t going to lose to another disqualification. The ones with trophies next to them means that team (Nuggets/TWolves) needs to win it all. My Mystic Dan bet doesn’t have that. Celtics and either Nuggets or TWolves needs to win their conference.
I spent another $60 consisting of Endlessly, Resilience, and Stronghold parlayed with Game 5 on whoever won between my Clippers and Mavs. The Mavs did win that but my horses didn’t cover. I’m not completely in the clear. Celtics, Nuggets, or TWolves could still fail to make the Finals. If they do, then my losses goes from $18.20 to $118.20.
My Bovada capital was $110. That’s $60 from a previous bet + $50 from today’s bet covering the rest of the field. My winnings will only be $100. So I’m currently at a -18.20 regardless if the Celtics and Nuggets/Twolves makes the Finals. That’s $8.20 + $10 = $18.20 in losses.
Sierra Leone finishing 2nd prevented me from losing $64+ more. It’s weird because he was the only horse in the field I did not have a win wager on. But he was the one to win me most of my money back. He’s a good horse. Nothing special but consistent. Never finished worse than 2nd and only losing by a nose in both those losses. It’s just his racing style puts him at a disadvantage.
Fierceness is a joke! 🤦🏻 I told y’all he’s sink or swim, feast or famine. I can hear people screaming for #17 but I kept yelling he’s going to fade which he predictably did. He’s not a horse you can trust. Fierceness has a QUITTER’s mentality. If things don’t go his way, he quits. He’s already lost 3x as the chalk, the previous two times he was either 1-2 or 1-5! He’s burned a lot of people’s money. His speed figs duped racing noobs.
Once I saw :46 and 1:11, I knew Fierceness wasn’t winning. Fierceness reminds me too much of War Emblem and Bayern. I kept yelling #2 is coming and he did. I didn’t mind that Sierra Leone lost because I only had a place and show ticket on him. I wasn’t going to win extra money had he won. But luckily he nipped Forever Young for 2nd at the wire or I would only be collecting $46+ instead of $111.80.
I had fun. I still lost $18.20 in total even if my current parlays hits by the end of May but it’s better to lose $18.20 than the $300+ I’ve been losing from the Derby each year during the last 2-3 years. I was clapping when Mystik Dan won but I was really happy for SL coming in 2nd. I think I will play it safe and bet only to place or show.
I didn’t think a name like Mystic Dan would win the Derby but we saw a Thorpedo Anna win the Oaks yesterday. And when I saw him in the post parade, he looked very calm. He was the most chill horse. I thought he was this year’s wiseguy horse because cappers were looking at him because he won in the slop. But the track was rated as good and he still won. He was coming from a 3rd place in the Arkansas Derby beaten by 6.25 lengths.
Just A Touch was really the horse who lost me money. He actually bobbled at the break and never recovered. I should’ve never spent $80 total for a WPS on him. Had I just put him on my Bovada parlays, I would’ve profited maybe $60. But I’ll take my losses to have that happy feeling collecting cash at the racetrack.
Dave Collmus did flub his Derby call this year like Durkin did in 2009. Dave was focused on Resilience and said he was leading when Mystic Dan on his inside was actually leading. Perhaps his binoculars made him myopic at that moment. It’s ok. He’s only human. Not every call will be perfect. Still not as bad as Tom’s in 2009. Mine That Bird was already 3-4 lengths clear by the time Tom said his name.
Closest Derby finish since my all-time favorite Derby which was the first one I ever saw on TV, Derby 1996 when Grindstone nipped Cavonnier. I’ve seen it over 100x as I recorded it on VHS back in 1996 when it was broadcasted on ABC. Jerry Bailey with a great ride that had him “put his nose to the Grindstone”…
Favorite Derbies I’ve Seen (ranking all 29)
1. 1996 (replayed it like 100x)
2. 2018 (most money won in this one)
3. 1997 (favorite Derby field)
4. 2006 (had a future on Barbaro)
5. *2024* (had fun today)
6. 2017
7. 2010
8. 2016
9. 2014
10. 2015
11. 2004
12. 1998
13. 2005
14. 2022 (‘05 and ‘22 for shock value)
15. 2012
16. 2007
17. 2009 (Durkin messed up the call)
18. 2008 (Colonel John duped me)
19. 2023
20. 2000 (finally broke the chalk drought)
21. 2011
22. 2003
23. 2021 (had the winner but a year later)
24. 2001 (Point Given disappointed)
25. 2019 (still haunts me)
26. 2002 (so boring)
27. 1999
28. 2013
29. 2020
Favorite Derby Winners I’ve Seen
1. Justify (2018)
2. Silver Charm (1997)
3. Barbaro (2006)
4. California Chrome (2014)
5. American Pharoah (2015)
6. Big Brown (2008)
7. Funny Cide (2003)
8. Real Quiet (1998)
9. Grindstone (1996)
10. I’ll Have Another (2012)
11. Mystik Dan (2024) 👀
12. Always Dreaming (2017)
13. Super Saver (2010)
14. Nyquist (2016)
15. Giacomo (2005)
16. Animal Kingdom (2011)
17. Street Sense (2007)
18. Charismatic (1999)
19. Fusaichi Pegasus (2000)
20. Mine That Bird (2009)
21. Rich Strike (2022)
22. Mage (2023)
23. Smarty Jones (2004)
24. Monarchos (2001)
25. War Emblem (2002)
26. Authentic (2020)
27. Orb (2013)
28. Medina Spirit/Mandaloun (2021)
29. Country House (2019)
Not bad to see 2024 make my top 5. Shows you that I actually don’t enjoy most Derbies since I’m usually coming home a big loser. Today, I’m only a minor loser. I could be overrating Mystic Dan at #11. He can move up or way down depending what he does after his Derby win.
The 2019 Derby would’ve been my favorite one and Maximum Security would be near the top if that disqualification never happened. It’s really tough to win the Derby. The chalk faded badly. The winner was 18-1. It’s not easy to hit this race even if you try covering every horse. I needed SL to win that photo for 2nd or I’m out $76.
Even close to breaking even makes me happy. I basically play the Derby not to lose and not to profit. I saw a lady in front of me say she didn’t profit at all. She won but didn’t profit after having so many bets for it. Thank you, Sierra Leone. You’re my hero today. I broke close to even which automatically makes him heroic and not a disaster I experienced in 2019, 2021, and 2022. At least he wasn’t disqualified.
What’s important is I had fun. I paid $8.20 (excluding gas money and LosAl’s general admission) to have that fun.
I need more detail. Monarchs should be much higher. Just think if bet twice as much. You would have list 16.40. You need NHL plays and some NASCAR too. Why limit your action?
Mystic Dan was the last bet I made. Got the exacta and win show. I liked Honor Marie who I bet hard top and bottom in exotics. I found Mystic Dan late. Churchill track was listed as fast by post. But I said what if it's still just a good track mostly. Mystic Dan is a murder all the way.
Unreal... Sierra Leone is just only two flared nostrils from a perfect record.
Sierra Leone and Forever Young were so busy bumping each other, they lost the friggin' race. Kudos to the winner, but those 2 ran a MUCH tougher race than Mystic Dan.
The Kentucky Derby outcome flatters Muth, who soundly beat Mystik Dan in the Arkansas Derby. The disappointment was the highly touted Fierceness, who appeared to run out of gas, but never was in contention. With his breeding on the dam side, Fierceness appears to have distance limitations. Fierceness doesn't choose when to bring his so-called best race. He clearly needs the race to break his way, for example, running loose on the lead. His high Beyers maybe distract from who he was running against. The Arkansas Derby may have been the strongest prep. Credit to Forever Young, who may have run the best race. Having to travel from one country to another and still compete on the highest level, he is right up there with the best of this group. J.W. gave a masterful presentation on how he landed on Forever Young.
Forever Young was the best of this field. Forever Young Jockey was sub-par and obviously rode badly in the stretch.
@@agoodchowHave to take a second look at the replay but even if FY didn't get the best ride, Tyler G. rode Sierra Leone recklessly and had more to do with FY not winning the KD. FY on raw talent ran a valiant race.
@@David-di6jf Look carefully again at how jockey on Forever Young rode in the stretch and comparing the two jockeys finishing first and second. Hope you understand the details.
@@agoodchow I just saw a replay and it looked like S.L kept bumping FY in the stretch and then TG ended up making contact with FY. I have read a few other viewers who are more critical of what SL did to FY and that there was a major lapse in the stewards/Churchill Downs for not calling an inquiry and taking down SL.
I'm kind of sad that Forever Young is shipping back to Japan right away. I'm ready to see him stick around and take one of the other 2 jewels in the crown. Gutsy horse.
like funny cide not going to be much after this race best horses finished 2nd and third they where rolling lot faster than mystic dan at the end snother 5 feet he would of lost japanese got bad shake here with the BUMPING on the stretch horse was hit at least 3 or 4 times VERY IMPRESSED WITH FOREVER YOUNG closing
Why is everyone putting this horse down, I didn’t bet but I was on Domestic Product and Fierceness box if I would’ve but my second one was Mystik Dan and Sierra Leone box which I would’ve won .MD had the second fastest speed figure it rained a lot the day before he runs well on a wet track I don’t have a clue why everyone is surprised he won .
Mystik Steely Dan baby !!
💰 💰 💰💰💰
Wife bet 2/all, all/2. 258$ exacta
Fierceness isn't Nyquist. All these horses have different habits and personalities. Plus the breeding wasn't that great on Fierceness. 5.0 dosage
Everything was lined up for the #17. Just didn't fire...😢
Could not handle the distance
Had winning bets on Oaks and Derby. McPeek double.
I had mystic dan to win also
Catching Freedom was my superfecta key horse....didn't have Dan though...
A lot of the pace was decided when the #3 beat Dornoch to the spot on the rail out of the gate. If Dornoch breaks ahead of the #3 - the pace would have been much hoter.
T O Password was in a matchup vs Fierceness in one book I saw. He was +6.50. And Password broke badly as well. Anyway not much buzz about Mystik but he had one big BSF and a 96 BSF at CD. I toss BC Juvy Winners. 2 Derby Wins out of 40 Derbies I believe. I lost day of race but had nice Future Bet after he won SW Stakes.
I don't think that the Kentucky Derby is ever going to be looked at this because after last year and this year and even the years before anything can happen and nothing is for sure.Michael picked a number out of a hat like the one guy said
I'm not sure if chad brown or pletcher are the trainers they're supposed to be or thought to be.
Almost used TO password over Mystic Dan,,put him in because he runs well on an off track ,and hit the 0.50 cent triple,expect the unexpected.Ran well just the same on a dry track.I had Sierra Leon,but took a guess on Forever young.
Has anyone done a health check on Howard Kravets?
And I had fierceness in the breeders cup last year, but I threw him out of the Derby I knew he had no chance! I used 2,3,4 ,8,15, and would have had Encino also, had a nice bed at 53 to 1 in the futures on him, that scratch hurt!
My analysis showed Fierceness to be the best horse. Why did you think he was bad? What do I need to look for?
You guys may not get the fine detail.
Winner is not router. and Normally a miler could not win mile and a quarter, such unexpected victory in a big big race happened very rare and only under certain conditions.
But the post position and trip were so so perfect that Mystic Dan could last here. And his jockey did excellent job the whole way.
He Also Ran 2nd in Preakness....Seems Like a Fine Router to Me
....And that is why Fierceness was not a gift at 3-1 even though everyone would have said exactly that if he had won. Talented to be sure, but to inconsistent and I will never bet a short priced horse in a 20 horse field that seemingly needs to have everything go his way to win. Things rarely go your way when in that large of field. I did not bet Mystik Dan but he actually did have a top figure that put him right there with a good trip. Not the most likely winner but a horse that could have been found without looking that outside the box and definitely was value at 18-1 compared to taking 3-1 on Fierceness.
Easy to day now but earlier an analyst made a good point. In FL Derby obviously field was horrible. So the weak field would not challenge Fierceness early as they would be cooked. They all ran to try for 2nd Place as 50 Points gets into KY anyway. Reminds me of Medina Spirit not challenging Life Is Good in SA Derby. LIG won easily but Medina Spirit was ready in KY. Another take on it. Fierceness seemed to win FL Derby so effortlessly. How was it effortless with a time that was so fast? You mean to say he could have run a 146 and change? Don't think so.
Fierceness was an easy fade, he has an every other race, on again and off again pattern, was due to throw in a clunker. I had Sierra Leone in an exacta box, just got that one by a nostril :)
Forever Young trainer has to be pissed. Sierrra Leone was banging him from 8 wide all the way down the lane until he was 2 wide at the wire. Zero chance the #11 did any part of that being pushed from 7 wide to 2. They take Maximum Security down after being ran up in and lifted off the ground from a rank War of Will, but they leave Sierra Leone beat the #11 all the way down the stretch. Unreal, so inconsistent. Also watch the break looking at the #11. He broke terrible too
They were bumping each other. TG is an excellent jockey. He would never endanger another jockey or another horse.
@@glamourpus7 i dont care how good he is. They were 8 wide and ended up 2 wide. The outside horse DESTROYED the #11 ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LANE. U act like its something new, SL has BEEN lugging in EVERY race down the stretch
@@jamesnewberry3155 You seem a li'l butt hurt...
Yes #11 looked the best... He could be a monster
@@GiorgioLombardi-lm5je did u hear the #3 tested positive for illegal drugs. Im done with this sport. They are stealing millions from fans
I had Sierra Leone forever.Young and catching freedom and a perfect trifecta
Wowww that's tough
Fierceness is todays Irish War Cry, a horse that could not put 2 good consecutive races together...just my .02
That’s a really good comparison
I left Mystic Dan off my tickets for the same reason I left Fierceness off my tickets. Inconsistency. I had $100 on Sierra to win and $300 on Sierra to place. He was clearly the most reliable. Unfortunately I didn't hit any exacta or trifecta.
I would have never picked that horse either.That's what I was telling everybody.I'm in ingredients with you there.I would have never thought that that mystic Dan boy, Does he really live up to his name.
From here, everyone's gonna be looking at japan horses
Japan is going to win next year! Over the last three years, their horses have been getting closer and closer to winning.
@@glamourpus7you can't say that
@@eddieschultz3289 I SAID, WHAT I SAID!!!
Not really, the pace was slow and the time was slow 2.03.4
They are better off in their own country and the purses are a lot bigger.
The top handicappers with over 20 years of experience lost 25% of their final bet. The sad reality is that they all fail with AI, computer analysis, and track screeners. The problem is that this is a losing proposition for making money with horseracing.
AI can't predict a winner any better than the Great Carnac could.
If Japanese Jockey knew U.S. Protocol Objection would have been lodged. Inquiry definitely should have gone up. Apparently since no Objection Stewards did not put up Inquiry. That is not proper. Inquiries can go up 10 seconds after race is finished. I think SL lugged in.
Always same old BS....JUST PICK NUMBERS FROM A HAT....
Yep lol
@@georgepimentel3072 niiiiiice
I had 3 2 hahaha
@@Dorian-wf1iv very nice
@tomahawk_nole1343 the winner is a chestnut just like mage last year's winner oh I forgot rich strike 2022 winner he also a chestnut love chestnut horses
I often can't discern whether what I'm seeing is a product of "raceriding," or horses being horses...
I like that the question was posed: "[...], or have we been wasting our time the last 6 months?" 😂 With young horses, speculation is ALWAYS a waste of time.
Two weeks the white haired man brings his barn to Pimlico
I doubt Fierceness could have gotten the 10F even if he cleared the field before the turn.
So many seemed to think a clean trip and it would be easy. His FL Derby Win was 9F but 10F in a much stronger field I doubt he could have lasted until the 1/8th pole.
If you take the damn horse out I would have had a beautiful trifecta
Even with MD being out of Goldencents not sure how you fellas gave him NO chance when he drew post 3 with BH as the jock who is great at Churchill on the rail! Should have known he would save the ground needed to give him a chance.
My horse was 20th.
Plus the track was taken speed
Mystic Dan, Zero strikes per Jon White....
Not sure what the Preakness field is gonna look like seeing how i live close to saratoga I'd love to see a TC on the line but not sure if it's gonna happen but u never know
Ohhhh hold on this could be the 2 lol
All those horses up front were dead at the half!
"Mystic Dan Was AWFUL Last Time Out"..."YES!!"...He Ran 3rd Behind "Muth" and Had a Weird Trip...Furthest From Awful
Why is everyone complaining about the bumping and not the fact that he reached out and grabbed the saddle of forever young 100 yards from the finish and pulled him the jockey should be banned for life!
The favorite is a piece of crapp bread
Fierceness PP's comments, hop start broke slow rushed up faded. He recovered is no good for this horse. He recovered in the Fountain of Youth, had the lead off the turn off a super slow pace. He would have been on the lead and able to slow the pace down. A great reason why Jonny is in the Hall of Fame, so good on the front end.
Any handicapper that ya'll know out Mystic Dan on top? Ill bet they didn't, this horse was 18-1 off people betting the name. Another bet is this horse comes back juiced if they test him in the next several days.
nope cause he got the best baby Jesus trip ever, from start to finish, thanks to Dornoch not breaking and sending like was stated allowing him to jump right to the fence to sit in the cat bird seat the whole race along with Track Phantom drifting off the rail entering the stretch to let him squeeze by at the rail....like i said 100% GOLDEN BABY JESUS trip, i pray to god they send him to the Preakness and Belmont so i can have the opportunity to make my money back.
@@reaper3954 Preakness will be won by Baffert
@@reaper3954 if your BLIND and didnt see him hop at the start, LISTEN to the replay. Fierceness broke slow, mid pack. EVERY bad start he loses, his race was OVER at the start. I dont care what trip he got AFTER he hopped start and rushed up, he is 100% up the track after a bad start.
@@reaper3954 my guy, YOUR BLIND. Best start? Hopped and broke mid pack.
@@jamesnewberry3155 my response was directed at Mystik dan
Fierceness was a bet against bro in the Florida derby the first quarter was 24 bro if u leta grade 1 horse go the first quarter in 24 he suppose to win by the length of the track only non handicappers would bet on the favorite he was a bet against you guys just like horse off there last race you all don't know the science just like art you have to peak on derby day the horse had a101
Don't throw out your tickets, guys.I mean, we know what happened with Medina spirit the 1 year I have suspicions about this race.I really do and about this trainer. Nothing against him but come on something is fishy here.
the jockey won the race
. McPeek is a good trainer
@@italianwaterice9594 the jockey got the ultimate perfect trip, he should go buy a powerball ticket
@@reaper3954 it wasnt luck. the trainer also won the Oaks... it was a well timed ride