Pro-Trump Satanist Shares Uncensored Views on God, Women, Drugs, and Rock & Roll (Ep. 1 | Season 5)
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- On the Season 5 Premiere of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson sits down with Satanist Brian Werner. Brian, a vocalist for the death metal band Vital Remains, gives his uncensored thoughts on everything from radical Islam, to hard drugs, Donald Trump, marijuana, women, God, and happiness. Brian also discusses why he stepped down as High Priest of the Satanic Temple. Things take a personal turn when he discusses his relationship with his ex-girlfriend who he says chose to abort his unborn child against his will.
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why can a Satanist and a Christian have a civil conversation. But a liberal and conservative battle to get a word in just so one can be proven right or wrong but not admit to it? blows my mind.
BuTcHeR X amacin
Because the are destructive religions that REQUIRE blind faith that no honest & intelligent person can remain in. The former can have blind followers but only honest & intelligent people can stay for the long haul.
Not all Christian's and Satanist's are civil. Same with anything else in life.
Because Christianity teaches people that they will never be perfect and they must be kind and listen to others, and most agnostic/atheists understand the Socratic method and can even be happy when proved wrong because they want to learn.
@@JerseySlayer you can't generalize Christian's and atheists/agnostics. Both can be arrogant in their stance. Also, what has atheists/agnostics got wrong? I'm curious.
satanist guy - "i just lost my drummer, tony got shot, and travis killed himself."
jesse - "Amazin"
😂
😂
Hahaha Amasssin
He's a deceiver this jesse
🤣🤣🤣
When a satanist come off as smarter and more decent than 90% of Jesse's other guests.
Go join them.
That's because Jesse challenges their ideals. He didn't challenge his guest... Just accepted the reply to which questions were asked... Any more than that and it would've been a repeat
@@marcelcadiz8456 😂
@@carloscastillo839 😄👍
He white
Came here a fan of Vital Remains. Left a fan of JLP.
tHats amazing 👉👈
Live Evil 👆thats amazin’
Satan is yo daddy
Amazin
"Why you wanna listen to that old loud mess? Just sounds like a bunch of noise!" I bet Jesse would have said that, but he actually like this guy, and knows they both love Trump and dunking on SJWs. He's like "You had me... until that whole worshiping Satan thing came up." 🤣🤣😭☠️
Absolutely wonderful two people showing respect and having a conversation. Great show!
Yea go figure yet all these so called God lovers are cruel and evil makes you think
Only one was wonderful. Jesse made some remarks...i like the Satanist
BigAl7976 or that’s dumb
God and Satan talk casually according to the old and new testament but you get 2 average humans with differing opinions and hate often comes out
He will come to Jesus one day
One thing I really like about Jesse is he is not afraid to have any guest on his show regardless of their views.
Jesse asks all the right questions. He doesn’t interrupt, he lets his guest express himself. Really great interview.
I love how Jesse will let them talk if they are being honest, but if they are just spouting words that have no meaning he just talks over them. He doesn’t want to waste his time and I love it
Its amazing
A guest that gives straight answers very nice!!
There are straight answers in Satanism, just answers. I'm glad you found this entertaining though.
He interviewed the young black activist from UCLA. They disagreed but got along just as well. You could tell he really liked and respected her as a person. She was very nice - as are most of his guests. Obviously he does have a bias - i agree with you there. We are all human - I don't hold him higher than myself.
How the HELL did you come to that conclusion? And How the HELL did you decide to turn this into black/white? Evidently no one would call you someone that gives straight answers or being nice.
icelineman dumb but nice
icelineman he may give str8 answers but half the shit he says is str8 Bullshit
A genuine conversation between two different world views. It is so refreshing.
This was a great interview. Each person had his own point of view but respected each other.
Nice to see a couple of human beings giving each other a chance with no judgement but just to understand why. Which can only be a show of respect.
Amen this is how the hell adults USED to behave before these GROWN BABIES who look like adults but were raised by TV. There is nothing more awesome than two GROWN ASS men respecting one another no matter how their views are. I’m personally a God fearing man....I still love and care for any satanist as much as a Christian. We are all in this shit together. Yeah I curse and I believe in god. Holy Sh%t I know.
SPICOLEY JUSTIN NIEZGODABRA Calm down Butt head
Smh resist the devil and he shall flee you shouldn't want to see his side I'm not casting my pearls before swine
First off, I'm a devout Christian. Having said this (and this may surprise), I do appreciate this man's character and thoughtfulness in many (but certainly not all) ways. I'm also thoroughly trained in science and theology through the graduate level, and I had to facepalm when he posed the tired, false dichotomy between religion (or more appropriately, transmaterialism, metaphysics, and the supernatural) and science. I could write a treatise on why it's literally impossible for the two to be at odds, and showing how science itself is inescapably founded on many unprovable presuppositions that must be taken on faith, ironically, just like the faith traditions (i.e., world religions). When one understands formal philosophy, logic, and especially epistemology, these things become crystal clear.
Anyways, I'd love to have a conversation with the man. God bless him, and I pray he is given a revelation on repentance and forgiveness. Working in the mental health field, I've seen many aspects of the human condition repeat so often that I know firsthand why they're so axiomatic. One is this: holding onto bitterness and unforgiveness is like swallowing poison and expecting it to hurt someone else; it is an inexorable force that will absolutely catch up with you, eventually, and the havoc it wreaks is horrendous. I hope and pray he never experiences that.
Why doesn't Jesse tell the guy his mom is evil the same way he does when a black guest says the same thing.
Cuz this guy don't give a shit🤣😈
Lol
he is already a satanist
Talk to me about your Father? ;)
Joe D. Dayummm 😂😂😂
This is supposed to be the way you dialog folks.......even when you vehemently disagree!!!
Whats crazy is I know Bri. I worked with him. Hes really cool. Solid guy. But he is a Satanist. Its sad, but shows how Satan is able to confuse ppl and get them to follow him indirectly and even DIRECTLY in this case.
@@-live8659 he stated he don't believe there is a devil so he isn't a traditional "satanist". He seems to be more atheist than he admits.
@@fletcherchad9434 We talked all the time. I am a man of the MOST HIGH so i got love for most i just dont agree with the actions that ppl choose. He didnt have the same beliefs as the "traditionalist" but its all the same. Lucifarians dont think they are Satanist same as pagans or witches or voodooist or santarians. Its all witchcraft which comes under the direct control and gives worship to Satan. But ppl dont realize Satan is so they think they are not worshiping him...
@@-live8659 thats not true. Most "witches" or Wiccan worship nature. As I said the guy in the video don't seem like the type that would sacrifice a goat in the name of Satan but more like the atheist who views Satan as an opposition. Just knowing someone does not mean you know what their real beliefs are anyhow. Either way this guy is NOT a satanist.
@@fletcherchad9434 I follow what u are trying to convey. However. His licence plate on his Mercedes coupe LITERALLY says SATANIST. Wiccan and witches do worship nature. Which comes from what? Sun god Ra, Orisus, Set and the like... Who come from Satan. Thus its Satanic. All the rituals are giving praise and honor to Satan. Any worship to any thing or any god other than the MOST HIGH/YHWH is worship to Satan. Js
what's interesting is that a satanist is more honest, intellectually honest, willing to concede points and ideas to the host, open minded, and thoughtful than most of the guests on this show. especially politicians and black activists.
This guy calls himself a satanist but he is really just an atheist.
Some might say that an important component of Satanism is about improving yourself and helping those around you to do the same. Part of that improvement process is becoming capable of thoughtful and eloquent dialogue.
Hes metal head thats all most of us have the same views in life cuz we dont take sides but stand back and learn, observe... the satanist thing is just gimmics, peolle trying to find a side lol ince u grow up u realize nothing really matters but being a good person
Maybe because he’s clearly lost. If you can’t see how lost he is you might need to reflect. He has fake confidence. Hope you can see that.
Satan is called the father of lies. Believe half of what you hear and none of what you see.
Awesome interview! I met Brian at a Vital Remains show in Detroit a few years back with Vader and Sacrificial Slaughter. He called me out on stage, and said I looked like Kerry King. Lol. We had a chat and a beer after. Excellent times!
I actually remember that but I think I made fun of you a little bit and called you "Barry King" as a joke hahaha
Either way, I had fun. Thanks for the memory man. You guys coming to Michigan anytime soon?
Pick Axe Preacher not this year bro
I can see him becoming a Christian when he has a child
He probably has a good testimony
Hail satan
He's just doing it to seem edgy.
I dont agree with this guy's satanic views but he gives lots of insight 😯
He is an atheist, satanism is an atheist ideology which sees satan as the symbol that better represents humanity.
They are very provocative, I mean, just look at them, they all dress in black and red
Makes sense
sergio doto How one can be satanist and atheist at the same time? That is ignorent as it gets. Like I am playmacker but I dont believe in basketboll. Without theism there is no angels or fallen angels like satan. C'mon, it cant be that hard.
izbor sistok they came from a sytem of magic known chaos magick an atheist magic philosophy that uses gods as archipelago focal points Levyian satanism uses satan as their prime archetype bc they find christiany backwards god is the devil in reverse or as the bible predicted they will call whats evil good and whats good evil but just to clarify I love this guy even though he is a Satanist
Which "satanic" view do you not agree with
This guy was so smart and humble. Seems like a great dude
Thank you
Ida partied with em
@@Infernaeon93 Come to Jesus turn to Him Hé loves you. Sorry for your losses,
@@shqipebelgjike1274 Imaginary friends can't love you. Sorry for your delusion.
Baphomet, the goat represents the inverted pentagram, which means black magic, which means human sacrifice. Curses and death spells fueled by shed blood. His profile pic is a statue of Baphomet worshiped by two small children. That says enough about him. Remember who the father of lies is and what this guy worships and do the math. Its not rocket science.
I love how Jesse is able to speak with any person from any walk of life with genuine understanding and empathy, while still getting his point across. I love civil discourse. Leftists literally aren’t capable of it.
I noticed that when jesse has real satanist or witches on his show; he doesn't troll them.
It's because Jesse is trying to witness to them, trying to convert them to Christ.
Power knows Power. Power don't mess with power.
@@JohnShiva10LMBO Satan is nothing
I may not agree with him on some things, but this guy seems like a damn solid person.
Death metal does that to you. I listen to it all the time and I find it very spiritually cleansing. It's weird to get into, but once your there it's a hell of a ride.
People think Satan's weak and they expect anyone professing him to be weak...he will use different mediums to reach different temperaments...sort of like a phone company that offers you 'all you can eat data, limited data, all you can eat minutes..mixture and blending of this or the other to suit your wants...so to those that are drawn to sophistry of life he's someone, to the simple he's got another project, to the very emotional he's some one to manipulate them, he's got all tools'....remember angels were created a little higher than we human beings.
U truly blind
@@repenttoday1940 That's easy to say.
1.What is blindness or what do you mean when you say that?
2. can you point it out
3. How do you overcome blindness.
4. How do you define morality, or what's your world view...how things came to be or what's the origin of all species, including inanimate?
Answer in bullet points, cheers.
@@fire-n-smoke2878 I don't think I referring to u,,no not u
What the *_ACTUAL FUCK?!?_* _How did I not know this existed?!?_ I love Vital Remains! Even though I am not a Satanist. And to know he stands against sjws?! This is crazy.
Dr. Manhattan yeah, he's a racist Trump supporter. This guy is so fucking lost that he looks like he wants to go shoot up a church or something
What's sjws?
BrazyD Yaboy Tide Pod eating idiots
This guy gas a good head on his shoulders and although we have different opinions i respect his view points
Roger Q he is a trump supporter and go look at his Instagram. He's also pro gun so that's why he might do something horrific and turn into another mass shooting in the United States
Impressive interview. Very civilized. I'm praying for this man!
I'm praying for starving people and children with cancer and people who don't have a choice Not arrogant idiots that worship Satan 🤣😂🤣
Deep South pray for everyone, even those who seem like your enemy :) that’s what Jesus taught after all
@@jde-jj1lu You pray for everyone clown
Jasper Jones awe little baby is hurt
Using dechristianize as the outro is so epic. Best interview so far
This conversation was one of the best. Great season 5 premiere Jesse!
I was an Atheist, never really believed in anything than in my early 20's I ended up delving into Satanism for the experience not really taking it seriously, but I ended up seeing and hearing some strange shit that I couldn't explain and I ended up in an extremely dark place against my will. after about a month I started to believe that maybe there is something more to life than meets the eye and that this could actually be real, and ever since I keep getting these hints that it is. I'd like to explain and go into detail but this comment will be way longer than what it already is, it's been almost 10yrs now and since than I've been on a journey to find God and to become a Christian, I'm just still trying to find myself and doing it in my own way and at my own pace, and I feel that I'm real close. I just hope I don't run out of time
TheHorrorExperiment I almost drowned in the Thames River in Norwich CT. About 9 years ago. It was the day before New Years, the water was 34 degrees, and when our boat sank, I ended up in it. I was in the water for about 7 minutes, all the while fighting the heavy current, filling my coat and forcing me back under.
I finally was resolved I wasn't going to win the fight, and relaxed, and waited for my body to reflexively breathe. I can say, I wasn't alone under that water.
I'm sure I was in shock, but I heard words in my head, and felt a hand on my right shoulder, I was calm, and the words spoken reassured me, that if I stayed put, all would be okay, but if I wanted to try for the surface again, it wasn't just my struggle anymore, and that's what I did.
When I popped up, I felt a hand grab the hood of my wool coat.
I'm not a religious person, and can't say that I am now, but I can tell you this, when we die, that's not the end, and I'd imagine how you live your life, determines who's hand is on your shoulder in a time of need.
You should write a book I bet it would be interesting telling your journey
You don't need religion to find God.
Absolutely! Anyone can see the things God has done for them in their daily lives. We don't need a church. Jesus was trying to teach people that the temple is US! We don't need man made religion. In fact, I'd guess Jesus was AGAINST it.
I feel sorry for you. I hope you find logic and reason.
This guy thinks he is going to judge God he is in for a very rude awakening. Talk about pride
He basically said he's going to judge himself everyone saying the same thing with different interpretation
Stupid. Because they really don't know. They don't believe in Satan. But don't worry he believes in you.
8 Up no,he basically said that he would give God a few minutes to explain himself before he judged him,he may come across as a smart man but problem is he's to smart for his own good
E.T.A. is NOW how so?
K Jones god needs to have his own judgement day for a change
Intelligent young man,I’m sorry to hear he don’t believe in Christ.clearly he is holding a lot of pain
oh shut the fuck up dude. Not all of us are weakminded enough to believe in imaginary best friends or whatnot jsut because they couldnt deal with what life threw at them. imo people like you give us a bad name. You believe in what you believe in, that's great ... but please dont approach others with your "holier than thou" attitude, especially when you dont even know who they are.
Just intelligent enough to question existence of god, nit enough to find answers
He would make a great Christian, just needs to look at the facts for him self, concrete thinking.
I think Jesse's being a bit delusional about this whole father bit.
This guy hasn't forgiven his father and doesn't want anything to do with him because he was a shitty human being.
That doesn't make him an alcoholic and abusive to women because he doesn't want to be around his biological father, who did.
I don't know where this kind of ideology is coming from but it has no merit.
@Wally West Right!! It's like he's trying to resurface something that often wasn't there or didn't mean anything. This guy kept telling Jesse my biological father wasn't there and meant nothing to me. I had a real father there and active. My personal thoughts on the matter is.... If I have a Lamborghini a Aston Martin and a Lykan hypersport in your driveway. You don't get worked up about someone stealing your Geo Metro. By the way for the Christians here remember... Joseph wasn't the biological father of Jesus Christ. And from what I understand he did a pretty good job.
As a stepfather of 24 years with a stepson whose BioDad is/was nonexistent - it is possible to have a father/son bond and not desire any time with the BioDad -
Wally West Jesse is speaking in terms of getting free from anger.
Wally West :::::Welcome to Jesse’s world 🗺 where you are actually Kid Flash!😉😂😂✌️
Wally West, bitch shutthtefuckup, i don't talk to my father either...does that make me a piece of shit??....nahhh but it makes u one for judging me & him though...besides u act like u lived this man's life....fuck you bitch
This is one of the best interviews so far! Though Jesse and Brian have totally different beliefs, they came together and had a wonderful interview. Brian was very logical and straight forward, unlike many guests.
blueravenchick lol you poeple crack me up
I really like this guy. I hope he finds Jesus❤️
Why?
Freedom of religion is a beautiful thing
@@marshalljimduncan What's wrong with hoping goodness towards this guy's way? She obviously thinks that Jesus is a good thing for everyone to subscribe to, I don't think there is anything wrong with that as long as she meant it in a good way. It's like asking the person why after someone told you to have nice day.
@@kylemclaughlin8319 One time at Nash I was walking thru the plant and a guy was approaching me so I just said hey, hows it going. His with response to me was "What the F do you care" I thought that was pretty rude. Then i got to thinking, he's right, I really don't give 2 shakes of a lambs tail how the f he's doing. Do you get me?
Jesse, in reality the man who accepted him and raised him is his father. Consider Genesis 38:9, Onan knew his 'donation' would not be considered his son, because family is more than just biology, biblically.
In the end Jesse wants to plant seeds and relate them to God but relating them to their father as the gateway. Look outside
"I will give him ample time to explain himself before I judge him (God.)" Haha...I literally laughed out loud to this.
Me too, because God will say depart from me you worker of iniquity for I never knew you. And then you will be thrown into the lake of fire. Nobody gets to judge the Holy Father. Nobody!!!!!!
Big Feet same with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Wake Up Now It sounds ridiculous if you’re a believer with unwavering faith. But me personally, as a nonbeliever feel that the Christian God has immoral tendencies and should be subject to moral judgments. He’s the one that watches a rapist commit their crime and says “you go ahead and I’ll punish you later” instead of stopping the rapist. If I did that I’d be an evil monster.
Me too. He will be sadly mistake come judgment day.
@@country928 none given after... simply swiping together of the hands.... :(
Man...
my fav question is, "what is a Man?"
Omar Aziz
A miserable little pile of secrets!? But enough talk! Have at you!!
Great Symphony of the night Reference......I was actually restraining myself from giving that exact answer in this interview
He quoted a Bill Burr joke at 34:02. Amazing interview Jesse you might be one of the greatest interviewers ever #amazin
I actually acknowledged that when we were live but this interview was edited. The whole thing was over an hour long but only 40 something min made the cut
Brian Werner yeah I caught that later, Bill Burr is ther best comedian of any generation, period
this is the first interview i've seen him have that was actually civil and not completely argumentatitive...oh wait, he's speaking with a white man. of course!!!!!!!
courtney n. Glad you’ve noticed
It’s because he’s not MUD colored!
Do you love white people
Jesse himself isn’t white so don’t say they are having a good conversation because the guy is white. There have been so many whites on him show who are fucking crazy. It’s the mindset
The pendulum has swung the other way. I used to be a "tolerant" liberal, but I had to disavow the fascist tactics of the left. I am a centrist like Brian Werner. I already liked Jesse Lee Peterson, and now I like him even more. He has the ability to have a conversation with someone, even if he disagrees with them. We need more open dialogues as we have seen here on this video.
Amen.
Alyssa They are ! Nasty.
He just interviewed a satanist! He accepts all honest answers as you can see . He doesn’t like the defensive, deceitful, predisposed hate answers. He doesn’t pander to anyone’s agenda.
Fuck them I am still a liberal the totolitarian PoS in the world aren't taken that from me. In fact most conservatives are so stop giving that term to them. If you believe in individual rights & a constitutional republic that prohibits the majority from dictating what the individual does you are a liberal. What they are, are socialists which opposes liberalism.
The problem is that people let emotions get in the way instead of fact
I am cringing that I had a lot in common with a Satanist. This was an enlightening conversation.
treetababy you probably have even more in common you should check out that Satanist version of the 10 commandments
Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
Do not harm little children.
Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
and here are the tenants
ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS.
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy towards all creatures in accordance with reason.
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
People are fallible. If we make a mistake, we should do our best to rectify it and remediate any harm that may have been caused.
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
Embrace
@@Zach-qs2bw so justice from a satanist shall prevail written laws???? seems radical
I never thought of myself as a conservative either but I’ve always thought the government should stay out of my life. He hit the nail on the head with the way I feel when he said I support gun rights for gay married couples. Do what you want as long as you don’t hurt and or respect the rights of others. Glad I watched this. I’m not a satanist but I am into metal and punk and hardcore music. I have lost friends because of the last election. I feel like a lot of people in the music community have been fooled by the propaganda of the left because they get their political news from late night comedians or just mainstream media news without digging any deeper. It drives me crazy how people can think they are for freedom are really useful idiots for communism and Trump is like the punk rock president in my opinion, yet it seams like most of the punks etc don’t like it.
I will check out his band Vital Remains. Thanks.
A man Jesse couldn't break .Amazing. Nice interview when you can agree to disagree stay calm and keep convos going
Most likable satanist ever. Praying for him.
I'm with you there, Jason. I would hate for him to find out too late that his satanism (individualism, etc.) is a lie
The crazy part is that so many around him are dying so that he can really think about where he is going after death. LORD Jesus have mercy on this man.
salv0xmerey amen!!
Jason Sherwood he's not a Satanist he doesn't even know what he is
Jason Sherwood he doesnt need that. Worry about yourself
Best interview I've ever watched. Beautiful. Honest and open. Both men a credit to rationalism. Keep it going.
I love it when they have their sharp answers and not in the form of intellectually sharp, but sharp with intent to harm, and Jesse shrugs it off like peanut butter and jam with the next question...
Love it..
I can imagine Jesse at a Death Metal concert. Satan is Amaaaaazing!!!
Wow he answered your questions Jesse!
That's rare.
Satanists are almost always just atheists with a few edgy flourishes thrown in that really mean nothing. Every time you see "satanist" just replace it with "atheist who tries to be a little darker and cooler"
Dude, most satanists actually know Satan is real. A lot of celebrities worship him. But half the time I try to tell people about this stuff they act like I just believe in stupid conspiracy theories, when really this stuff is obviously true once you begin to look i to it.
Lg Tribuit
No, you're confusing low level every day Joe's with ultra elite Zionist Synagogue of Satan people. Enormous difference.
@@gattsuberserk4534 Tribuit is right. you probably would be sick to your stomach if you only knew what these Satanists actually do willingly.
Satanist,Christian,Muslim, organized religion is mind control. Period
there are Satanists that do much darker things including animal and human sacrifice. Read or listen to the stories of people that escaped or came out of satanic covens. Satan is very real and there are some that know and have experienced the powers of darkness and demonic influence.
Satanic or no-satanic I like this guy
@JC Denton Yeah for sure - when I was listening to him, for some reason he reminds me of Snake. If you've ever played Metal Gear Solid then you know what I mean, pass your legacy
@JC Denton Lol are you kidding? This guy is dam near EXACTLY like Snake; little bit of good and bad, believes in passing the torch(pass your legacy), and is knowledgeable about the reality we reside in. - IDK bro, to be honest if this guy opened a school I would definitely send my kids there
@@dontraythesavant9927 your crazy you like the enemy
@@dsanders799 Naw what's crazy is how there's this big fight between democrats, republicans, people giving themselves all of these labels, when being democrat or Republican is 2 WINGS OF THE SAME BIRD, THIS IS WHY WE ARE STUCK IN PLACE, WE'RE ALWAYS FIGHTING; THIS VS. THAT, AND IM JUST DONE. My only enemy is the lies that were taught to me about earth from birth
This guy is seriously my favorite guest JLP has had on the show.
Is it that hard to wrap your head around? Those who have a step father who raise you as their own, is a real father.
I would dislike it the same as if my biological father did it.
I think Jesse's just making the point that having your biological father as your father figure is the best of all possible worlds.
My step dad was there like his was when my father wasn't and isn't here that's a real DAD. I even went and met my father and he never tried to keep in contact and lied when i asked him in his face why he didn't stay he lied in my face. So yeah I'm not a Satanist or do I like that human hating ass hole. But I agree with him about the father.
PaleDale, you cannot replace DNA and other biological mechanisms with someone outside of the bloodline, it's common sense. you can however be a father figure and try to raise the children without their biological father and do just as good a job.
Wrong...He is a real dad not father. A father is biological and a dad isn't.
Two of the realest dudes ever.
This dude is awesome. Very respectful honest and just easy to speak with
I heard Maxine Waters took his spot as High Priestess of the organization.
I am grateful for this interview. Despite the "satanist" thing, I like this guy. I appreciate his honesty and can track with what he's saying, although we disagree on some points. I can truly relate to his experience with his father, my husband had almost the exact same experience with his biological father and stepfather. That inspired us to adopt a child, seeing how much love you can share with someone who isn't "biologically" related to you. I love watching Rev. Jesse and his interviews, but I don't reach the same conclusion as he does on the "father"point. I TOTALLY agree with this gentleman's view on dogs!
You like a Satanist you like Satan then your lost and confused
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't believe a person's religion has anything to do with them not forgiving. I believe that's a personal thing.
Sage to be honest I wouldn't have been able to forgive those who hurt me without Jesus. I honestly didn't want to until I found Jesus and He told me too. It was hard but through Him I have forgiven my enemies.
You’re are so right. And it doesn’t judge anyone’s character. There’s some scummy ass people that are religious and vise versa.
Jeff, I agree. This message is being purposefully attacked, so spread it as often as possible. Sow thy seeds, brother.
Sage Careless Whisperer religon no but if you believe in God. We are told.. If we don't forgive those who transgress us.. Our heavenly Father won't forgive us! So God tells us that the forgiveness isn't for the other person. It's for us. When we read His Word it tells us that not forgiving people is bad for our health. The other person isn't walking around caring. They walk around without a care in the world! So when we don't forgive others, it hurts us in the long run. Be blessed in Jesus's Name
It may be personal for some people, but Christianity does put emphasis on it.
Best video ever. That I have seen yet. Thanks Jesse for being kind and open enough to have this discussion
I've never had a conversation with a Satanist but I didn't expect him to be so great sounding
In spite of not wanting to like the guy I do. I think he is a great example of the many paths a man can take to find the truth. I do not like his style I am not a big fan of the "Satanic" label but at the end of the day I would kick it with him. Thanks for the good show Jesse. Now do not forget to bring a crazy liberal on and get them riled up for us in at least one episode.
+front line
SJW's are beneath him.
You are beneath him 👌
Great showcase of values, dude.
Ross Horsley
Find Jesus, he is worthy.
Ross Horsley same here. Sjws was good enough for me
Shawn Moore that's why we want to see him make jokes about them in front of them without them even realizing it. So then they can realize the hypocrisy of their ways later on when they hear people making jokes about what happened
Very interesting indeed. Very well thought out responses (im not saying agree) but you can see his perspective. Good Job Jesse Lee Peterson.
Exactly! Seeing others perspective is key in life.
Good job Jesse Lee, good job Jesse Lee.....
what are you, a bunch of fucking robots?
Yup. Very interesting
Wow. It's awesome to see such civility in CZcams comments of all places.
Here I am the death metal fan and jlp fan seeing that the vital remains vocalist is on! Excellent episode
This is incredible! What an excellent conversation, no back and fourth only progressive flow forward! And I loved that Scar Face nod.
what a great interview! i love that jesse brings in all walks of life
We're not walks of life!!! Learn some fucking respect.
We're not walks of life!!! Learn some fucking respect.
We're not walks of life!!! Learn some fucking respect.
Why is he so stuck on the relationship to the father?
rowolta why aren't you?
Jonas Sal Maybe cause the guy expressed how much he didn't give a shit about his bio father? Asking the same question in 30 different ways isn't going to change the answer.
@@egcowling9657 well you're watching his show. What does that make you?
Because he hates women he’s not married haven’t you noticed.
Duh, because patriarchy is the fabric of life itself.
So great to see someone articulate on the show.
"I believe in energy"
that's such a bandwagon thing to say lmao.
I agree its a bandwagon thing.. However we all posess energy. We are energy...on the same wavelengths as the earth actually. Thats why all the things we need to sustain life...is found on earth. Air..water...fruit...vegitables...... All things.
It’s actually an agnostic terminology which means “I believe there’s something there but all the dogma trying to describe is all bullshit.”
The religion of the Evolutionist - someone who believes you and I evolved from a monkey, that came from a fish, that came from a soup, that came from a rock, that came from an explosion Long ago and far away (big bang), that came FROM NOTHING
It was NEVER and can't be (Tested nor observed) that's against the scientific method, resulting to this theory being unscientific.
Time, space and Matter came from Nothing
Nothing...but a fantasy
@@deebonash1495 "but a fantasy" you nailed it there. We are living in gods infinite mind
@@NousoftheSupreme stay in context like a good scholar. Taking things out of context like you are doing now, will make you look like a clown if you try and do that for arguments
I liked this guy from the beginning but when he started quoting Bill Burr, I liked him even more.
The Satanist has a more Christian understanding of forgiveness than Peterson's' brand of Christianity. You cannot give forgiveness to someone who doesn't ask for it. At the heart of true biblical forgiveness is reconciliation. You cannot give something to someone without them receiving it. You may ATTEMPT to forgive but if the other party does not accept it (they did not repent of it) then forgiveness hasn't taken place.
Uhhh... “Forgive them for they know not what they do.” You’re welcome.
Very interesting conversation really enjoyed this.
Kinda funny that he said he doesn't know if there is a God, but if there is, he plans on judging Him.
Like it's going to be like some kind of court hearing.
Good luck trying to win a debate with God
i love how jesse also added the metal music with some satanic type images in the end lmao! thats very cool to do so. it really adds that level of understanding of his guest. even if only for entertainment.
Brian Werner is the worst vocalist for Vital Remains. You have no idea how bad he is and yes, he's a total alcoholic
An interview where ppl with near opposite ideologies actually have a real conversation....revolutionary!
"If there is a judgement day and I have to stand in front of the creator of the universe and be judged, I will give him ample time to explain himself before I judge him"
Brilliant!!
Absolutely liked the guest. Very grounded, well spoken and honest. Gotta have this guy more often. Going to check out Vital Remains!
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26
True...Give him time..He will find Jesus..if it has to be on his death bed...God bless..
The word hate here was not used the same way that we tend to use it now.
When someone says something stupid Jesse says amazing hahaha 🤣
be youtiful With Jesse Amazing= Wow...wtf!
Not everytime
Hahaha I noticed that too
It's Jesse Lee Peterson that's stupid. His IQ is squarely around room temperature.
Never really expressed my gratitude for what you do Jesse, but i truly appreciate you bringing me so many different perspectives. So for that i must thank you. I hope you see this
This was a very good and enjoyable conversation. The man didn't try and answer around the questions or give Jesse bullshit and a great conversation came out of this.
Such a good show, thank you for bringing Brian onto the show. Very interesting chat and he gave me many concepts to think about.
Leave the dad issue alone...
Brian McWhorter yeah he spent way too much time talking about his real dad...
I'm a Christian, but I found it cringeworthy pressing this issue.
Does this bother you Brian? If so, why? I believe how you relate to your father is how you relate to God.
Their having a conversation...let's put our big boy panties on
@RVM Lance ...What do you mean. There are biological fathers who rape their children or evn kill the family...Call it what u want but thats not a father thats a sperm donor. Matter fact, donor is polite term because in reality donors don’t ruin the child’s life
This is an amazing interview. The fact that they were respectful to each other is wonderful, regardless of obvious differences.
“Lucifer was the first person to fight against slavery” LOL bet that triggered a few people.
Well, if angels have no free will, then clearly Lucifer couldn't possibly rebel against him. Kind of a paradox.
@@waloacme Lucifer was created from fire at the beginning along with a few other cherubim. Roman Catholicism turned him into an arch angel.
I know he is a celestial personality higher than an angel. But I was trying to simplify it for the general public. The point still stands.
No
@@waloacme Lucifer had free will.
This was a really good interview 👍 keep it up jesse
This was great. Morals, life choices, respect, and free thought without religious beliefs. Much respect for both gentlemen.
Nice interview thanks I subscribed
That was the best conversation I have heard on this channel thus far!!!
Much respect between you both.
Good interview!
Brian Werner: *gives a great, reasonable, thought out, logical response to a question*
JLP: Amazin'
Was that his bands music playing at the very end? I listened to the whole thing.
this Brian's a really exceptional thinker, very level-headed and relatable. Respect \m/
That's amazing.
excellent conversation! :)
Thank you for continuing the greatest of human traditions of great conversation.
Incredible interview! I wasn't sure what to expect from Brian but I really liked him and his answers. My criticism lies with Jesse, though. He seems to be face to face with someone who isn't a Christian and who didn't have his real father growing up and is fishing, constantly, for that to be the reason why any bad thing in Brian's life was because of his malnourishment of those two things.
Yes, that's true. But your relationship with your natural most of the times reflects your relationship with God.
Jesse needs to stop harping on the biological father issue. He doesn’t understand what it is to have a dead beat biological father. He says he has a father. The one who raised him. Obviously Jesse doesn’t understand.
Laughing Eyes you’re correct
"Oh Sure. That's what they all say. My back hurts." 😂😂😂 and Jesse's face when hes listing the songs. Hes looking like WTF
I really enjoyed this interview. The way this guy responded to jessie's traps was great. Although I don't agree with all of either of their views, good talk.
Jesse can't seem to understand that his step-father is his real father.
Jesus, stop messing with the guy. He's right. Family is much more than just blood.
That wasnt the point at all...
@Ed On Couch the abusive drunk sure lol why should he bother he's just a dude he has the man that raised him that's what's important
Devon Schmidt think about it this way, and I say this as someone who lived with a similar problem, would you ever really be happy having that heaviness in your heart? Not loving your father, making him not exist to you? Replacing him? In the end, that heaviness is still in your heart, it’s in my heart right now holding me down because for some reason I can’t bring myself to reach out to my dad and forgiving him for walking out on me and my mom when I was 2. I don’t know if it’s pride, or anger, probably both, but listening to all of these people tell their stories I can see a pattern, Devon. Even Tina Fey joked about it on a tv show where she placed a drunk psychologist and she told her patient “let’s skip the ten years of therapy. It’s your mom and your dad. It’s always your parents, go talk to her.”
Jesse keeps telling people to do the same thing. Forgive your mom, forgive your dad, move on with love in your heart. When you think about it like that, it’s a really beautiful thing. And somehow it’s helping me come to terms with the fact that I have to forgive my father.
@@dannyphantom907 I'm not saying parents and childhood don't affect your psychology. They certainly do. I'm saying there are people who are better off that a parent left. My dad for example was raised by a step dad and he doesn't see his biological dad as his actual father. Hes actually glad he left and let him have a real parent. He had no interest in meeting him but his mom and my mother insisted that he did and all it did was help reaffirm the way he felt. That's not to say you shouldn't forgive your dad if that will help you move on. All the power to you. On the other hand forgiving him doesn't mean he has to be a part of your life if you don't want him to be. I'm just saying it's possible to be a well adjusted human being without your "real parent" in your life.
@AntonioKowatsch But that's the thing, his stepfather isn't his real father. That's the point Jesse was making, and it's a vitally important point to realize. The guy suffers from anger and hatred, and that has ruined his life, though he might think otherwise. God wants the guy to be well and to live a healthy life. His anger and hatred over his daddy issues is preventing this for him.
I love it when my wife comes home with a hot pair of heels. I don't know why guys aren't into women who like to look good.
Indominus Rex stfu dude.
This is one my favorite interviews of all times.
I went to this 5 minutes after the “Gunplay” rapper interview. This conversation is way better intellectually.