Everyone: Mahomes is the only QB to win a SB with such a high % of cap 31 other teams: Our QB can do it too! Owners aren’t trying to win SB, they just want to be competitive.
Great clip! Where is the video for the beginning of the podcast? I came here to see Chris show off his cans! I'm glad that Chris talked about his cans again during this part of the show so I could see his haul!
Just do a 1 player exemption. So that’s either your star QB or if you have a great rookie then your benefit is being able to lure away an Aaron Donald type pass rusher with the big money
Then the WR's will want a separate cap, DE's will need a separate cap, LT's will need a separate cap, etc. The players union will demand this if there is a separate cap for one position.. there is a hard cap for a reason. If you want a cap on a position you need a cap on all positions
It really does not even need to be a QB cap, just an individual cap limit of 10% or something like that. Similar to the max contracts in Basketball. I mean when you are 1 of 55 + 16 for the practice squad. So 1 of 71. So each player is 1.408% of the roster, If a player earns 10% of the money that is like saying they are 7.1 times more valuable than an average player. Since an average player should earn 1.408% of the cap in a fair world. However, as we all know, the world is not fair. I also think that the NFL needs to start setting aside some of the revenue for life long medical and retirement programs that pay out based on the position that they played (to determine injury rates, quality of life after football, and life expectancy) multiplied by a factor for years or games played. For instance, guys in positions that are a meat grinder like linemen, linebackers, and running backs should get more compensation post career than a punter or kicker that has much less wear and tear and will generally live longer. Basically this should work similar to how life insurance works, each individual gets a rate based on their games played, injuries sustained, and the effect of their positional athletic profile on life expectancy and quality of life after football. Whatever that number is their family should get the payout on if they pass away early.
I agree with the idea of "QB Salary Cap". The present NFL is built on the sacrifice of say the special team, rookie players for 5 years, and a very small amount of money spent for the players compared to what the teams are making. Cap should be regularly raised, QB cap should stay for say 5 years. Teams should raise the funds for retirement by replacement and injuries and so forth. We need healthy players as well as the operation of the pro sports Americans love.
The QB cap won't help teams in anyway. It would just lead to WRs, DEs, LTs etc. making more money. For example, Justin Jefferson would have demanded $45m instead of $35m in a QB cap league. The reason for this is that the forces driving up QB salaries are the same forces driving up WR, LT, DE, CB etc. salaries. A team would not have better chance of building a good roster just because QBs are forced to make less. Teams would still compete for players at positions where there is no cap. Ultimately, it is the competition for players that drives up prices.
@fysean other positions don't need a price hike. I'm fine with kicker salaries, and RB, and TE don't need more money. Honestly, most QBs don't deserve the money they make. Keep cap as is and let those foolish enough to over pay at QB suffer.
@@fysean thats part of the game when playing RB and TE. thats the gamble. thats what makes Football brutal. NFL is for the young and hungry. why do you think everyone growing up wants to play WR or QB? more money and more glory.
@@kiaadams104 It doesn't matter if other positions don't need hikes. The CBA between the NFL and the NFLPA stipulates that a certain fraction of league revenue MUST be spent on players. So, saving on QB salaries doesn't save a team any money. Teams would still have to spend the money on other players on the team. It doesn't improve the competitiveness of any team. It just artificially redistributes wealth from QBs to other positions.
Look at the Idians (Guardians) the lowest or one of the lowest payrolls in baseball...but one top three best records in baseball. Doesn't help the no "cap" aspect but still speaks to the point...
The amount needs to be voted on by the union before they go to contract talks with the NFL. Remember though the needs of the few out way the needs of the many……. Think about it. Thanks
You know I hear you talking and I can't believe I hear what you're saying. You're basically saying to pay these guys as much as they can whatever they can blackmail you for. Then you got a good portion of the rest of the team trying to make a couple million dollars or worried about getting cut or being told they just can't afford you because I got to pay the quarterback 18- 20 million 30 million a year. You know this is crazy none of those quarterbacks are very few more worth this kind of money. . Look at the ex Viking quarterback he's making almost half a billion dollars in his lifetime and he's won one game one playoff game? And you shouldn't make excuses for quarterbacks who can't stay healthy that's their problem. Tell that same thing to the offensive lineman who've been in the league for 20 years and it gets slapped up there head every play. This whole thing sickens me because it's not what's going to the quarterbacks not only the quarterbacks but the running backs now the wide receivers.... Ahhhh... For God's sake all you lightweights just say no!
I don’t think you understand what’s being discussed. This year it’d be 50-60M cap for a QB and the cap for the rest of the roster would stay at 255 and climb accordingly. It’s a hypothetical where position players would actually benefit. Same pool one less giant swimmer. Cap the QB number if you want. Currently the need/want for a franchise QB hurts the rest of the roster.
@@ChrisLong-dy2uoit’s also because of the focus on passing and rule changes that support that. The qb is valued so high because the rules favour a certain type of play.
Between what players are getting paid (esp QBs) and cost of tickets and beer and food, starting to make regular season games PPV, you are going to lose the regular guy. I already have one foot out the door. Be careful and don't be greedy.
No economists in football I see. A QB cap or QB cap exemption would HIGHLY benefit the couple teams with the best QB’s. The cap is a mechanism to give you less money to spend elsewhere when you have highly productive player eating a lot of cap, if you split that out then the Chiefs will win every Super Bowl. I’m a chiefs fan so this is fine with me, but it’s certainly not going to achieve what everyone seems to think it will achieve.
Not at all. Every team will be able to spend and sign their own players. The Chiefs are already winning, so what's your point? I'm very confident that separating the QB salary from the cap, will actually end the Chiefs dynasty.
@@samuelsandate9804The chiefs are already winning, and yet they have to pay Mahomes a large contract. Remove his contract from affecting the cap, and they have even more money for skill position players around him. The way it’s set up now is balanced. You pay for what you perceive to be the most valuable. You don’t have to pay Lawrence a record-breaking contract. You can tell him to walk and be mired in mediocrity, or remind him the best chance of winning is consistency, keeping his own salary reasonable, and using the saved money on skill position players to help him win.
With the money the NFL is making each year there should not even be a discussion about caps. There is no cap in MLB, and the revenue for baseball is way less than it is for football. There is a luxury tax but no cap. Football has a minor league system at the Football Universities across the country that costs nothing to develop players, while baseball does have professional minor leagues for development purposes tied to various franchises. Team turnover is strictly an ownership cost savings tactic, that the NFLPA should address since the average career length has shrunk by more than 20% in a decade, shucks since the rookie cap went into effect. Stop the cap discussions, start arguing for no caps and fully guaranteed contracts which are in MLB and the NBA.
The salary cap is an artificial salary suppressant to protect billionaire owners. Get rid of it or at least make a soft cap to reward those who wanna spend and punish those who do it unwisely.
Why would Jacksonville sign him like that,he would of taken anything,the khan family loves to spend money,and our fiercely loyal to there people,but still i would of gave him 1 year to prove hes good enough,maybe 2 just too really make sure he's a pro starter
"I was worried about the 6 inches in front of my face"
Dude needs bifocals or shades.
It’s pride month let it slide
that was insane
We would all be worried about the 6 inches if it were in front of our face
5:07 (whoaaaa there buddy!) let’s pause on that one King 👑
Ok sir you owe me a meal I spit my dam food out 😂😂😂😂
I came here to type the same comment but you beat me to it lmao
Everyone: Mahomes is the only QB to win a SB with such a high % of cap
31 other teams: Our QB can do it too!
Owners aren’t trying to win SB, they just want to be competitive.
It’s their business, they want more profit!!!! That’s it.
Trevor Lawrence is not competitive. He is a loser, and he always will be. He wins 40% of his starts.
mahomes contract is backloaded
Great clip! Where is the video for the beginning of the podcast? I came here to see Chris show off his cans! I'm glad that Chris talked about his cans again during this part of the show so I could see his haul!
Why not just an overall cap of no more than 20% of entire cap to any one player qb or otherwise
All jokes aside keeping the QB separate on salary cap is a great idea, seeing how everything is going
desperate teams overpay
How about a cap per position groups.
Daniel Jones is Trevor Lawrence... same stats. Is it just the going rate? Danny Dimes didn't get the market rate
If I could walk through life with all the excuses Trevor Lawrence got I’d be living good…they said he gets TWO mulligan seasons😂😂
I actually might not have paid him. He’s not a no brainer, as we talked about. Reason for hope? up to the jags.
Seems to me that like a lot of lost money per year based on potentials
Just do a 1 player exemption. So that’s either your star QB or if you have a great rookie then your benefit is being able to lure away an Aaron Donald type pass rusher with the big money
Then the WR's will want a separate cap, DE's will need a separate cap, LT's will need a separate cap, etc. The players union will demand this if there is a separate cap for one position.. there is a hard cap for a reason. If you want a cap on a position you need a cap on all positions
L taylor got LEFT TACKLES paid
It really does not even need to be a QB cap, just an individual cap limit of 10% or something like that. Similar to the max contracts in Basketball. I mean when you are 1 of 55 + 16 for the practice squad. So 1 of 71. So each player is 1.408% of the roster, If a player earns 10% of the money that is like saying they are 7.1 times more valuable than an average player. Since an average player should earn 1.408% of the cap in a fair world. However, as we all know, the world is not fair. I also think that the NFL needs to start setting aside some of the revenue for life long medical and retirement programs that pay out based on the position that they played (to determine injury rates, quality of life after football, and life expectancy) multiplied by a factor for years or games played. For instance, guys in positions that are a meat grinder like linemen, linebackers, and running backs should get more compensation post career than a punter or kicker that has much less wear and tear and will generally live longer. Basically this should work similar to how life insurance works, each individual gets a rate based on their games played, injuries sustained, and the effect of their positional athletic profile on life expectancy and quality of life after football. Whatever that number is their family should get the payout on if they pass away early.
The starting QB is definitely worth more than 7 times that of your average player.
Ayooo multiple no diddy’s in this clip 😂😂.
“6 inches in front of my my face”……that’s crazy
I agree with the idea of "QB Salary Cap". The present NFL is built on the sacrifice of say the special team, rookie players for 5 years, and a very small amount of money spent for the players compared to what the teams are making. Cap should be regularly raised, QB cap should stay for say 5 years. Teams should raise the funds for retirement by replacement and injuries and so forth. We need healthy players as well as the operation of the pro sports Americans love.
The QB cap won't help teams in anyway. It would just lead to WRs, DEs, LTs etc. making more money. For example, Justin Jefferson would have demanded $45m instead of $35m in a QB cap league. The reason for this is that the forces driving up QB salaries are the same forces driving up WR, LT, DE, CB etc. salaries. A team would not have better chance of building a good roster just because QBs are forced to make less. Teams would still compete for players at positions where there is no cap. Ultimately, it is the competition for players that drives up prices.
But the point is that other positions are so undervalued comparatively, the whole point would be to drive the price up on other positions.
@fysean other positions don't need a price hike. I'm fine with kicker salaries, and RB, and TE don't need more money. Honestly, most QBs don't deserve the money they make. Keep cap as is and let those foolish enough to over pay at QB suffer.
@@kiaadams104 they don’t? RB and TE have much shorter careers and take way more hits than a lot of positions.
@@fysean thats part of the game when playing RB and TE. thats the gamble. thats what makes Football brutal. NFL is for the young and hungry.
why do you think everyone growing up wants to play WR or QB? more money and more glory.
@@kiaadams104 It doesn't matter if other positions don't need hikes. The CBA between the NFL and the NFLPA stipulates that a certain fraction of league revenue MUST be spent on players. So, saving on QB salaries doesn't save a team any money. Teams would still have to spend the money on other players on the team. It doesn't improve the competitiveness of any team. It just artificially redistributes wealth from QBs to other positions.
They could do like the highest paid player (or two, or three) doesn’t count toward the cap.
The richest teams would love your idea.
@@bourbontrail565 yes you’re probably right.
@@bourbontrail565it's not like the nba all teams have the same amount of money in the nba owners with more money can do that because of the soft cap
Horrible idea because teams with the best QBs already have a humongous advantage. This would increase it! 😮🤔😯
Why does he keep saying Jerry? It only make sense to cap the qb. Fans would support this
Look at the Idians (Guardians) the lowest or one of the lowest payrolls in baseball...but one top three best records in baseball.
Doesn't help the no "cap" aspect but still speaks to the point...
Chris "I was worried about these 6 inches in front of my face" Long
You never saw any given Sunday ? 😂🤙🏻
The amount needs to be voted on by the union before they go to contract talks with the NFL. Remember though the needs of the few out way the needs of the many……. Think about it. Thanks
Agree.. this would stop punishing RB's and other positions.. enhancing team cohesion.
Please give one valid reason why Lawrence is worth more than 10 million a year?
You serious Clark?
Chris calling us all poor on the sly with that Zyn tower
It’s a great idea. They should have separate caps for offense and defense too.
Isn't the free market supposed to regulate this insanity? Nope
NFL is a privately owned business. Open Market means nothing.
Dear all Americans, don’t be fooled the premier league is more competitive than the nfl which never relates teams
Remember when Brady was always taking outside the top ten money and everyone said he was ruining the game for future generations lol
You know I hear you talking and I can't believe I hear what you're saying. You're basically saying to pay these guys as much as they can whatever they can blackmail you for. Then you got a good portion of the rest of the team trying to make a couple million dollars or worried about getting cut or being told they just can't afford you because I got to pay the quarterback 18- 20 million 30 million a year. You know this is crazy none of those quarterbacks are very few more worth this kind of money. . Look at the ex Viking quarterback he's making almost half a billion dollars in his lifetime and he's won one game one playoff game? And you shouldn't make excuses for quarterbacks who can't stay healthy that's their problem. Tell that same thing to the offensive lineman who've been in the league for 20 years and it gets slapped up there head
every play. This whole thing sickens me because it's not what's going to the quarterbacks not only the quarterbacks but the running backs now the wide receivers.... Ahhhh... For God's sake all you lightweights just say no!
I don’t think you understand what’s being discussed. This year it’d be 50-60M cap for a QB and the cap for the rest of the roster would stay at 255 and climb accordingly. It’s a hypothetical where position players would actually benefit. Same pool one less giant swimmer. Cap the QB number if you want. Currently the need/want for a franchise QB hurts the rest of the roster.
@@ChrisLong-dy2uoit’s also because of the focus on passing and rule changes that support that. The qb is valued so high because the rules favour a certain type of play.
Quit paying them so much. Goff is not worth 50 million
Between what players are getting paid (esp QBs) and cost of tickets and beer and food, starting to make regular season games PPV, you are going to lose the regular guy. I already have one foot out the door. Be careful and don't be greedy.
No economists in football I see. A QB cap or QB cap exemption would HIGHLY benefit the couple teams with the best QB’s. The cap is a mechanism to give you less money to spend elsewhere when you have highly productive player eating a lot of cap, if you split that out then the Chiefs will win every Super Bowl.
I’m a chiefs fan so this is fine with me, but it’s certainly not going to achieve what everyone seems to think it will achieve.
Having Patrick Mahomes paid on a seperate salary cap, so that i can pay Tyreek and Jones and all the other stars sounds like a nightmare
Not at all. Every team will be able to spend and sign their own players. The Chiefs are already winning, so what's your point? I'm very confident that separating the QB salary from the cap, will actually end the Chiefs dynasty.
@@samuelsandate9804The chiefs are already winning, and yet they have to pay Mahomes a large contract. Remove his contract from affecting the cap, and they have even more money for skill position players around him.
The way it’s set up now is balanced. You pay for what you perceive to be the most valuable. You don’t have to pay Lawrence a record-breaking contract. You can tell him to walk and be mired in mediocrity, or remind him the best chance of winning is consistency, keeping his own salary reasonable, and using the saved money on skill position players to help him win.
You want to reward lack of delf control? No way. Let irresponsible soending destroy teams.
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Players cannot make more than 20% of the total cap, ez.
With the money the NFL is making each year there should not even be a discussion about caps. There is no cap in MLB, and the revenue for baseball is way less than it is for football. There is a luxury tax but no cap. Football has a minor league system at the Football Universities across the country that costs nothing to develop players, while baseball does have professional minor leagues for development purposes tied to various franchises. Team turnover is strictly an ownership cost savings tactic, that the NFLPA should address since the average career length has shrunk by more than 20% in a decade, shucks since the rookie cap went into effect. Stop the cap discussions, start arguing for no caps and fully guaranteed contracts which are in MLB and the NBA.
The salary cap is an artificial salary suppressant to protect billionaire owners. Get rid of it or at least make a soft cap to reward those who wanna spend and punish those who do it unwisely.
Dude, the cap is so the owners pay any money.
@@bourbontrail565 that would be a floor. Close
The cap keeps teams at least competitive. Look at premier league soccer and how unfair that is because there’s no caps. The winners keep winning.
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Sometimes I feel the NFL business is a serial rapist in terms of the fans that made them crazy rich.
Lawrence isn’t worth more than 10 million a year
Why would Jacksonville sign him like that,he would of taken anything,the khan family loves to spend money,and our fiercely loyal to there people,but still i would of gave him 1 year to prove hes good enough,maybe 2 just too really make sure he's a pro starter
If that’s the case Herbert don’t deserve his contract
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