Deep Cycle Batteries Maintenance And Testing
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2022
- This should get you going in the right direction if you're having trouble with you deep cycle batteries.
Battery Fill Jug Link
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For me these take too long when I have multiple large batteries to fill but they do come in handy when you only have a couple of batteries to maintain.
Battery Hydrometer
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Battery Load Tester
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As a forklift road tech (been in the industry for just over a year now) I love these videos. I know CZcams pushes creators to make reels instead of long form videos and I do love your content, I would love even more to see more forklift/industry videos like this more often. Your video on replacing a Toyota radiator actually helped me immensely as I’ve had to do that a few times now and would be doing it the dumb way to this day.
Either way, keep it up and best wishes from BC, Canada!!
Now people actually watch my videos it’s a little harder to make them at work 😁
@@FunkFPV sir keep up this vids and you will retire alot sooner than u had planned . thank u sir
These batteries can cause people so many issues due to lack of information. So thank you for sharing what you know!
I always think, I didn’t get any acid on me, but little holes magically appear in my clothes after I wash them.
I tried to explain that to my ex once, when she was "helping". I think she thought I just wanted her to get naked when I was telling her to get her clothes off and in the washer fast.......🤣. Swiss cheesed those jeans that cost three times what a pair of mine do, for 1/3 the fabric.
haha had a hard time figuring out where the holes came from first time it happened to me.
When you rehydrate that powder in the laundry is where the holes come from.
@@FunkFPV Please help me. Please kind sir.
I have dedicated acid pants which over time will become fishnet trousers , again it's a mystery since I'm not juggling the stuff but yet the holes appear no matter how careful I am with it.
I work with these batteries on a daily basis mainly on scissor lifts. A few quick checks during the daily/weekly inspections no one does. When checking levels in each cell, before blindly filling, look for extreme differences in water level. IE one will be at a normal use level, one will be down to the plates and one near the top of the cap; usually accompanied by wet tops of batteries or complaints of leaking batteries. One cell is feeding the other it’s water. Thus being bad. I have had luck finding the bad egg in the bunch by plugging in to on board charging system and check voltages while being charged and have found one to be charging at a very high rate. Strong sulfur smell is sign of over charging as well. The hydrometer can throw people off some times if you don’t burn off that “top” charge after being connected to a charge system. I do have one of the expensive load testers that’s will test at 75amp for 120min ( I think but most don’t make it anywhere near, maybe 70-80) it is nice to have but with time involved sometime it can be a pain to pull out unless trying to give the customer a relative estimate of life of the battery left. We use distilled water but our jobs never have that on site, who can blame em. Just yesterday I got to a job and one battery had the caps off just sitting on top of the battery and water was non existent down to the plates. Any water is better than no water.
Great video and me living in AZ. there are lots of golf carts and most people I know change out the set when one goes bad. I had been running gel deep cycle in my wheelchair (2-12V for a 24 V system) for years and I got about 3 years out of them but when one goes bad, replace both. $300 each. My new chair came with Lithium and what a difference. My range has almost doubled but it came at a cast. $5000 but I am able to go all day without running out of power and should last the life of the chair. (about 5-6 years) I am very active in teaching and building furniture,, and unloading trailers so The new batteries have made a huge difference
The lithium batteries are definitely an improvement over lead acid but as you mentioned they’re a little pricey. I think as far as commercial applications go lead acid batteries will be around for a while.
@@FunkFPV Lead acid, they’ll be around for many years with all the safe recycling of them. Insurance paid for my lithium.
Your voice is calming to me when I'm real stressed. Thanks for making these long format videos so I can come back when needed..thanks for everything you do, I don't know if you'd be surprised but they are helping my mental health tremendously.
Another great video bud.
I'm a nerd and a shade tree mechanic/fabricator from near birth, run some big construction work, had my head under the hood of about anything at one point or another. There are a lot of guys making DIY vids, sometimes I watch them just to laugh at how their great new ideas just aren't, like you guess lol. Buddy, I watch yours to learn something.
Great video man. It's always fun to watch other people that know what they are doing, go back over the basics.
Another difference between starter batteries and deep-cycle batteries (at least the ones i've seen), the deep-cycle batteries tend to have a larger "trough" underneath the electrodes so that the crud that eventually flakes off have somewhere to go where they don't touch the electrodes, so they don't self discharge/short cells.
Sidenote: as far as i know, the recommended depth of discharge is ~50% of the capacity if you're aiming for maximum longevity, but it's probably going to vary on how fast you're discharging them etc
Thanks for the content. For capacity testing I got a “A10H” cheap-looking electronic load on eBay for $80. I blew up one of the power mosfets because they advertised 30V but the mosfet was only specced for 20V, so I replaced the mosfets and it’s good again. The software has graphing, capacity totaling, and programmable voltage cut-out, in addition to charging modes. Great for both lead acid and lithium and the best option I’ve seen below the serious $300+ options.
Love everything you taught us and very good to know and remember, Thanks so very much 💜💜💜💜
Very detailed and entertaining video 👌🏼
I’ve been in the forklift tech industry for 8yrs here in North Jersey & mainly deal with Toyota & Mitsubishi forklifts gas, LP, diesel, electric.
Enjoy your forklift videos/vlogs
Would love to see more of them!
Those videos are a little questionable for me to do now that people actually watch them. 😬
I use theses in my solar for my house I'm pretty knowable with these.. You taught me something I didn't know. Thank you!
Great videos dude! I’m just a dumb welder but it’s always great to learn new things.
Cheers
Outstanding video! Very well made. Well explained. Perfect!
Talk about nerdin out, this is right up my alley. Xcellent vid brotha!
Such a great video, I really enjoy and appreciate what you put out
Excellent detail in this video, no clue what was going on, but loved it anyway, kept up the good work 👏
I have migrated away from the toaster style load tester to a digital tester. Specifically the Topdon BT300P. It load tests, gives a state of charge and overall health in percentage. It can also do charging test and cranking test for auto application. It can also print out results. Ive found it very handy and more thorough so far.
Excellent vid - thanks!
Thanks Wes I appreciate your videos
God damn dude. You're over a quarter million subs now.
Thanks for the feature length vid. Love em.
Thanks. No one‘s worse surprising me 😁
Surprisingly found this pretty useful thank you
Nice 👍🏻
Ooh excited about this one, thanks for the information!
Great tips!
Really good advice! At work we run some scissor pallet jacks that have normal car batteries in them because they are cheap. The batteries only last about a year and capacity deteriorates very quickly. Not a good idea to do that.
The thing you got a remember to with the scissor lift is the weight of the batteries are part of the stability. I’d have to fail a scissor lift on inspection that didn’t have the right batteries in it.
@@FunkFPV Thats a good argument for buying the proper batteries next time, maybe i can convince them.
Good explanation mate👍
That's wild, because my MK rep told me the exact opposite regarding charging hygiene/behavior.
Great video!! Those all important voltages for the ECM. Batteries are the stale gas of tomorrow.
idk how I just found your channel. but dang i'm subbed. make common sense cool again 🤠
I love your videos!
Dope video bro!!!
good info 👍
Ok I leavened something today I can go back to bed. Thanks dude
This was great
Heavy highway trucks and off-highway equipment are typically wired in parallel. Although, back in the 60s, or so, they were more typically wires series.
Dielectric grease helps prevent corrosion on the posts and cables, too.
I feel so cool right now. I run the cart shop at a golf course, our fleet consists of 70, 2016 model year Yamaha 48 volt golf carts. Each cart has 6 batteries. The ends that bolt to the terminals always corrode off so we clean the battery tops with water, baking soda, water, then compressed air. Spray fluid film on the ends once you’ve done that they’ll last for a long time. My theory for why the ends corrode off is because the batteries get overfilled and vent excess acid onto the terminals and ends, or it’s because they run hot.
But yeah this is my job and we only use distilled water because that’s what Yamaha calls for
I had a friend lose an eyeball when he messed with a battery somebody had put on a charger.
Also saw my neighbor's motorcycle battery after he boiled it dry on a fast/jump charger, thankfully no injuries there, just the battery suffered.
Be safe.
Nice
I like the long videos.
I have a deep marine battery in my Jeep Grand Cherokee that I hook up a power inverter to sometimes. And it's nice to run my house off of when power is out. But I refuse to let it get below 12 volts because the alternator would not like that recharging in voltage lower than that. Brushes can start smoking
Lead acid do not want to be discharged. Do not run them low if you can avoid it. If you use it, charge it. A light float charge is good for them. Look at car batteries, they run a starter motor that runs for 2 seconds then they recharge. Deep cycle are they same chemistry with basically thicker plates to deal with deep cycling. They don't like it, but they can do it. Keep them charged and keep water in them.
I have to disagree, I work for a battery company and we were taught the best for v force deep cycle batteries are too bring them to about 20-30% discharge and than let them get a full recharge for the best bang for your buck, that’s straight from the manufacture to. With that being said yes keep them watered.
@@matthewmeneses8459 oh yeah, that's the way to get the most use out of them. What I'm saying is using them at all shortens their life. The best life they can live is a slow float charge without ever being discharged. But then there's no point to the battery. Discharging them shortens their life but that's what they're for. You don't need to discharge them 30% but it's probably the way to get the most use out of them.
"Blue to match my balls"...funniest line ever in a tutorial ! Love it
At least someone picked up on that joke 😜
I had a crack in the battery in my truck when I was in college and it was slowly leaking acid. I would top it off with distilled water occasionally because I had no money and I like to procrastinate. One time when I put the cap back on, a bit of acid/water shot directly into my eye. Would not recommend. I washed it with a ton of water and my vision was blurry still so I went to the ER. They flushed it with several bags of IV fluid. The outside layer of my eye was eaten away but it healed and I fully recovered. Definitely scary and dumb.
Always use safety squints 😜
Now you have my attention.
I have no interest in electrical maintenance but this was so interesting and well made so I watched it anyways lol
There are these cabins up by a pretty remote lake in my area. I knew one of the owners of one of them and he would pay me to come out and maintain his property mainly his generator and his battery banks because everything is off grid up there.I would do some plumbing or painting or whatever else too. But because I had keys and access and knew where everything was, other people who lived in the same area this guys neighbors started calling me to have me do the same thing sometimes they would want me to work on their little zodiac boat outboards or whatever too. I basically paid my way through college doing that. Everybody was willing to pay a bunch of money because you had to go work up in the mountains Bring all your own tools and not be supervised and to be honest people that own lakefront vacation homes have money to spend apparently. I used to go up there every month and just check everybody’s batteries, they all kind of liked it because I go up check the batteries make sure the house hadn’t flooded or burned down (one guys did flood that was bad another guys was hit with a tree). Every once in a while somebody will buy a house up there and they’ll see my invoices and they’ll call me, It’s not economically feasible for me to do the work anymore but I do know a guy so good times
I yanked out the SLA batteries in my eMoped and replaced them with a LiFePO4 bank, and the difference is unbelievable.
LiFe batteries are really nice and safe. The only drawback is they lack amps.
@@FunkFPV That's why there are still LA batteries in all combustion engine cars.
For me, it took a useless slow junk, and converted it into a super fun long distance moped.
Knew most of the things Funk presented. And watched it for entertainment.
Still learned an unofficial rule (rule of thumb) about the acidity 50 points-ISH of difference between cells (on an instrument with 1.3k graduations)👍
Now i feel the urge to buy a float battery acid tester 🤣 I'm joking, i don't come in contact with flooded batteries.
Thanks for the info. None of my batteries have the ability to be filled back up. I have 2 100amp batteries for my solar system. They recommend using deep cycle for solar. Any way I have had them for years and they are starting to loose capacity. I am thinking about getting 2 new batteries that are 200amp so will have twice the capacity. Anyway thanks for the info.
Well this would have been nice to know last weekend 49 Chevy I had a feeling that 6 volt battery was depleting too fast and it's a new battery
OSHA - you need gloves and glasses and a shower kit and a spill kit and eyewash station and fire extinguisher and
me and the boss with the forklift battery- you hold the funnel, i'll pour the shit in
LoL that’s how we all do it 😁
Those are about $160 bones each, and use them in my bus conversion. I have a watering system for mine, all the caps have hoses that connect to a common manifold that fills them equally and simultaniously.
Those are great but it’s a good idea to pop those caps off every once in a while to make sure they’re all getting filled. I’ve seen a few batteries cook a cell because it wasn’t getting any water.
@@FunkFPV yes, your correct, too friggen expensive to fully trust a Chinese or pakanstanese, india-neez or where ever the fuk-aneez they are made product to do the work for you!🤠👍
To be safe you really need a designated building or even property to service batteries. Calling the fire department in advance is probably a good idea. There are insurance policies and law firms that specialize in helping you prepare to service a lead acid battery.
You should do a leatherman pliers review. Although I also understand that a leatherman costs way more than a 22 dollar piece of junk from China but idk it’s up to you just an idea. Maybe use one with the replaceable cutters so it’s less expensive.
I laugh so fucking hard, my highlight of the day...ty..
Here in the UK for along time now we have had maintenance free batteries. Have you ever heard of them and are they mendable? I have looks around for the old fashioned type bu they are getting really rare and, as such, too broken repair. Thanks.
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I've always thought it's a good rule of thumb to have two multimeters one that stays in my toolbox at home and then I have another smaller one that stays in my truck's glove box
My youtube suggestions are being flooded with tool stuff i dont even understand since watching your videos. "oh you like funk? heres the history of craftsman and harbor freight tool guy"
Haha That algorithm will get ya 😂
Not related to the video but do you have any tips for getting stripped countersunk screws out ? With welding or anything
I usually drill the head off and hopefully there’s bolt left to vice grips on.
"I colored mine blue, to match my balls" 😂😂
My man! You got acid in your eyes before?!?! I always preach safety glasses
I thought you were going to speak on those guys bringing 12v batteries back to life using a stick welder.
U have more room then my van I can't even get a chest in it cuz they put to many Damm shelves
What would happen if you fill them with Gatorade?
So basically, the voltage is the power, and the amp-hours is the time the power can be provided, right?
Didn't know about series-parallel but it's well explained here.
A better way to look at it is in terms of fluid. Voltage is the pressure and the amps are the amount of flow.
Top grade info, so of course youtube throttles it.
Same PPE as handling lemons
What about de-ionized water? The facilities I have worked at say to use that from the special treatment filters only.
That’s fine too. 👍🏻
"I colored mine blue uhh to match my balls"
I'm dead dude. That's 3 videos in a row you've slid in a joke that hits at just the right time.
Subbed till CZcams explodes.
Are you on Rumble or anywhere else?
I have a 8series Toyota that has a new battery and starter , but when the units key is switched off it tries to crank . I tested the switch the switch tests good. Any ideas?
Try it with the key switch unplugged. I’ve had those switches test good when they’re bad.
Use a refractometer when there isn’t enough liquid to pull into a hydrometer. Only needs a drop.
My fork lift mechanic retired a couple of months ago. I'm not happy about it. Are you willing to relocate to 'cold as hell' in the winter?
Haha it’s cold enough where I am now
Didn't know that about short charging lead acid batteries. That's the opposite of modern LION batteries. Lead Acid batteries are still very good in some applications versus lion.
Funkfpv... Have you done a video on battery reco in india yet?
I can send you a few info vids if u need them 😂
Mad fan,
Paul
Which battery Last longer? A battery connected in series or parallel? Power tools have batteries with different amps not voltage.
There shouldn’t be a real difference on how they’re wired. It all comes down to how you use them.
Next time someone asks me about batteries. They’re getting the link to your video
I might send this one to a few guys I work with 😜
@@FunkFPV If the guy that taught me. Explained it like you did. I would not have bothered him with battery questions for a week.
Out of a crown pallet jack
Funk real Americas response to canuck AvE
At lease funk real actually teaches you something.
@@FishFind3000 Ave is good but sometimes he gets so autistic that I can't understand what he's saying
@@FishFind3000 well we see who wasnt paying attention in bumblfuckery class
AvE has gotten poor the last year or so ,pity as I enjoyed his taredowns
@@bulfin21 he's become unwatchable for me. Stayed for the boltr. A thing of the past, oh bother. Unsubbed ages ago.
What grinds my gears? Chinese electric scissors or booms that you never know how it's wired. Nothing the same. Also the batteries that are for certain model scissors that are extremely expensive because of the weight requirements.
you can get good advice from youtube, if you can weed out the wheat from the chaff, and there's a lot of chaff, the silliest chaff is the free energy crowd !!!
How much is the macaroni and cheese? Where do you get your recipes? Do you poach your own salmon or did you buy it that way?
Been a chemical operator for 10 years. That shower and ppe will save your ass!
Are they 6v deep cycle batteries? if so, are you going to run 2 pairs of 2 in parallel in series?
P.S. isn't the TASTE of battery acid truly awful? xD
Battery go brrrrrr☹️
i thought tap water killed car batteries, it's not worth the risk, distilled water is only a couple of bucks where i live ?
For load testing, why not just use automotive headlights? A bank of headlights would draw a ton of amps I think.
Having the right tool for the job goes along way... thats what this guys channel is all about.
"Sci-fi pain"
Those 100 amp load testers are nothing better than a hand warmer. Batteries are to be tested at half their CCA rating, meaning if it is rated at 100 CCA you need to test it at 500 amps. If the battery does indeed fail a 100 amp test it is 100% degective. A 12 volt battery rated at 1000 amps sould not drop below 10.5 volts with a 500 amp load for 15 seconds. FYI, going on 30 years repairing HVAC, refrigeration, generators and electrical systems on commercial fishing vessels and large yachts with 24, 32 and 48 volt DC systems. AC systems are 220 to 480 volt 3 phase.
"I've got acid in my eyes tons of times." He said without wearing safety glasses.
I wear safety glasses religiously, and I've been to the doctor for eye issues more times than I can count and they can't figure it out...
Maybe I shouldn't bother.
I use safety goggles, not safety glasses. Goggles have a seal around your entire eye area and dont let fumes or dropplets in. I was real happy with FPV's safety talk prior to the work. 🥸
Load testing of deep cycle batteries is not a one size fits all thing. The load is different for different batteries. For accurate results always consult the manufacturer. Too many times i see people just take out the 100 amp load tester and use it on every battery they test. This is wrong. The load and duration of the load needs to tailored to the battery under test and then the result needs to be temperature corrected. Yes the result will change based on temperature of the battery.
Pff who needs Google reviews when we have Funk FPV?! Answer: nobody
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......unless of course you're wanting to check on something that's not the handfull of things he's reviewed or commented on.... then yah those reviews are helpful.... but FUTC pliers? Pfffff 😎
I have gotten battery acid on my hands every day for the past year it does not hurt
Alright dude. The shorts were funny in the beginning, I'd personally really rather see the "day at work" mechanic stuff. That's far more interesting than some far east idiot trying to weld with a wooden stick.
Don't fully fill your empty batteries! Make sure there's maybe 80% fluid, otherwise you get acid overflowing. Also ion exchanged water is enough for batteries, it has under 10 mS conductivity, tap water starts from over 100!
It's such a shame that your long videos don't get nearly as much views as the quick snarky shorts (not that I don't find them amusing but it's just reacting to intentionally poor content)
I’m okay with it. Most of my subs came from Shorts so it makes sense.
Your "opportunistic charging" advice goes against all the literature.