The Times We ALMOST Got The Japanese Pokémon Anime
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2023
- The Japanese version of the Pokémon anime has never been legally available to us Westerners. However, there's been quite a few times where we've been teased with the prospect, and I really do mean "teased". So let's look at all the times where that's happened over the course of the anime's history!
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I was keeping up with the Japanese version weekly and even I was extremely annoyed at the Pokemon social media team spoiling Ash's world champion victory minutes after it happened. They have all the money in the world to simply offer weekly subs and they just don't for whatever reason.
i think they dont want people to know they were fooled with an modified version of the anime for all those years
@@igorgiuseppe1862What was modified?
@@Raylightsen a lot of things, you can see on dogasu what they changed, but he almost only talk about dialogue changes and things that were redraw/censored.
in my opinion the sound track replacements were the bigest deal.
take the first movie for example where they replaced all the sound track, in fact that was quite common in the first movies, then they proced to change the musics in the anime too.
actually i think they replaced musics since the first season, not completely sure, i saw some episodes from AG in both japanese and brazlilian portutugese (we get the american version) and then gave up on watching the dubbed version as soon as i could see an fansubed version instead.
@@igorgiuseppe1862 All of that sounds pretty bad, i think the main detonator of all those events is the censorship
Re-releasing the first movie in Japanese would also be an excellent opportunity for them to release the Japanese theatrical version as an extra
When I was a kid, every time the Hoenn opening played during the climax of an episode I'd think, " this sounds way too good to be dub music"
I didn't have internet at the time so I couldn't check it out. Not surprised to see it was the Japanese opening. Though why 4kids kept so much Japanese music with Pokémon always confused me.
Brock's Paradise was also in "Lights, Camerupt, Action!" and "Once in a Mawile"
True, though the latter episode didn't actually play the song.
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 Also, what rendition of the GTS theme is 14:47? That's XY's right?
@@swagkirby3449 Yup.
It's funny how Pokemon social media pages try to pander to the older audience by just plain spoilering the big events happening in the Japanese version. Reminds me how the Miraculous Ladybug CZcams page posts trailers for episodes that aren't even airing on the US yet all because they never made a proper deal to air the episodes in a consistent way, as instead they premiere epiosdes on either Canada, France, Spain, etc.
There should be a law that forces companies to include the original language if it's a non-English property.
i so dearly hoped the anime expo screening would finally be the series entry point into official subs but alas… great vid and documentation as always
There's also the Japanese Pokémon theme in Pokemon pinball
Lol too easy.
It's so strange to not have a legal Japanese version available when practically every other anime is advertised with that first these days. To me it never felt like they advertised the show as an anime, so I wonder if some of the issues today are a holdover from that marketing strategy. I'm sure it would be impractical to get the entire series at this point, but at least getting subs for the recent episodes seems reasonable. Though I remember that Sonic X release being mentioned as impossible when the English bluray was coming out a few years ago, so I guess anything is possible.
Neat to hear that some of the odd localization stuff made its way back to Japan as a teaching program.
some other long running anime also don't have a home release, like Yugioh Zexal got completely skipped over and had no way to be watched after it aired until it became available on a JP-only streaming service in 2021. I'm not sure if being stuck to rental DVDs or rental LaserDiscs is a worse fate than never being released at all at this point.
You're doing wonders, man. I always found it strange how the Pokemon anime felt "region-exclusive", like th e only way to access it in Japanese is to catch it on TV Tokyo or rent (not even buy and own?) a DVD. Pokemon de English looks so interesting so I'll definitely have to check most of these out at some point.
I actually own that Destiny Deoxys DVD.
In the Credits of Nier Automata it does a bilingual with with Japanese and English
Seriously, the higher-ups at Viz/TPCi/ShoPro ahould just stop beating arround the bush and give us the subbed episodes already. I mean I get it; translating an anime subbed or dubbed isn't an easy overnight process.(Not to mention there's probably tons of paperwork that needs to be sorted out amongst other hypothetical hurdles.) But still, they're well aware that there is a demand for a legal way to watch the show subbed, so there really shouldn't be any excuse.
EXACTLY!! There's no excuse for them not releasing the original Japanese version in the US. At this point everyone knows Pokemon is from Japan and since Ash,Pikachu and Co have departed the series, releasing not only the original series but also the movies subbed would be an excellent idea. While 4kids did cut and edit the original series, some of those scenes aren't even that inappropriate compared to what other shows have nowadays. Plus this would be excellent for those who been with the series since Pokemania. So you're absolutely right those companies need to stop teasing and release the original version cause at this point Yokai Watch would probably get subbed release before Pokemon.
It is crazy that the original Japanese version has never been officially released outside Japan it seems like they won't because it's too different with the dub episodes being more censored then Japanese or maybe it's Nintendo not letting them
The dub is virtually the same in terms of content, especially these days. Hardly any visual/story edits being done.
@user-rd6zt2hi7r DVDs and streaming.
@user-rd6zt2hi7r for dragon ball and most other anime the Japanese version is included as an audio track on the blu ray/dvd this is allowed because the company's dubbing the anime also have the rights to distribute the original Japanese version pokemon is just different
I once had a chance to buy some English Pokémon movie DVDs when I visited London years ago, but since Pokémon is sort of an addiction to me, my dad didn't let me buy them. Needless to say, I was grumpy for the rest of the day.
The Netflix batch indeed dropped out today, but it's not actually the last batch. The English dub counts the "Aim to be a Pokémon Master" arc as part of the 25th season.
Yes, but it is technically the end of Journeys.
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 Technically, yeah. Depends on how you define it.
I think the other reason people want to watch the legal Japanese version is to hear the lyrics of songs and the original score for each episode as the English version barely exists to begin with. All I want with a Japanese simulcast is the voices to be accurate, the translations to be the same and the bgm to be kept
These Pokemon Facts videos are always a fun watch. Thank you Malik.
In the western release of the Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disk. The Japanese trailer of the game was used to promote the American release!
Any video evidence you can link to of that?
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 I could actually record a video and post it. If I can find my crt adapter for footage. I have a copy of the bonus disk I can record! I’ll comment again, when I get it done!
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 I got the video posted! It's titled "Pokemon Colosseum Trailer Bonus Disk". Not the best quality footage. But I was glad my adapter still works!
I tried commenting with a link to the video. But those comments wouldn't stick. So if they happen to show up later. I apologize in advance for potentially mass commenting!
I had no idea English fans had so many little peeks into the Japanese version! OLM and TPCi should really get Discotek to do subbed DVD/Blu-Rays like the ones for those other 4Kids shows.
I’d say Pokemon has the capability to do it themselves - it’s not 4Kids property anymore and they got the license ripe and ready for distribution.
That three-movie set came out right before WB began to lose the distribution rights to the trilogy (not counting their distribution deal with Viz Media), so it was likely their attempt to get some extra money out of The First Movie while they still could.
Absolute gold mine of information in this vid, amazing work man!!! Keep it up!!
Thank ya! I’ll try my best!
Tweet cameo yay!
Great work as usual, it's this kind of thorough content from you that leaves me confident our voices can be heard!
Thanks, man! I’m hoping the future looks bright for us fans - and I’m ever so happy I got to feature a Tweet of yours and that you liked it haha
This all feels like secret, lost history. A lot of stuff snuck onto VHS tapes, lost to time
Pokemon getto daze indeed. While the Japanese dub of the show is still vastly superior, I fondly enjoy the English dub when I was kid till this day even I found out it remains still not a bad dubs of the series.
The early seasons dubbed are shockingly good for the era of dubbed animes progress in 90s was
One of the most interesting things about the Anime Expo screening was that TPCi never acknowledged it whatsoever. As far as I could tell there was never any tweets or advertisements for the screening from the actual American branch of the company, and I don't think they even acknowledged the Japanese dub being on Netflix either. Considering the track didn't end up being on the bluray even though a subtitle track already existed... it says a lot.
That subtitle track was a “dubtitle”, just using the English scriptfor the subs, even if it wasn’t totally accurate to what was being said in Japanese. Still weird how TPCi never acknowledged the event themselves, though.
I’m guessing uptake of the audio track on Netflix was proportionally lower than expected, even given the lack of promotion.
Great video! I had NO idea about the Meowth's Party thing, pretty cool! I feel it's also worth noting that there is an English Version of the movie 3 ending song, The Day A Rainbow Was Born. The instrumental also snuck it's way into the dub in "Barry's Busting Out All Over!" Once, too.
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Oh, cool! Didn't know about that - probably cus the English version never came our way haha.
Lots of crazy good info in here. Thank you for compiling this. I know this doesn't get tons of views because old Pokémon anime content is much more niche than the modern stuff and gaming content, but just know that all your videos like this are truly appreciated. Thank you!
Thanks, dude!
I think i can guess why they have been adamant to keep the original Japanese version out of the western market. Status quo for the already established pokemon brand in english speaking territories and wanting to avoid any potential controversies via some select scenes throughout the anime's run. I.E Ash getting a revolver pointed point blank at his face. Cuz even though that might be common knowledge to us pokemon fans, to the average consumer or ignorant parent that probably wouldn't the difference between either version and just show anything pokemon related to thier kids? Yeah, that'd be a PR nightmare waiting to happen. One that TPCI couldn't Walt out like Dexit or Sca/Vio launch.
17:26 Ayo that's my old tweet lol. The volunteer handing out the wristbands actually started giving them out the night before. I remember having to shower with a ziplock bag over my hand not to get it wet. Managed to get a good middle row seat and enjoyed the film and performance without having to strain my eyes. The Pokemon go armored Mewtwo raids announcement right after was also very hype (still disappointed I never caught one). To this day the movie is still the only piece of the anime to be released with it's original audio and I'm disappointed TPCi didn't decide to simulcast Horizons.
Meowth's Party is unlockable in English and in Japanese on Pokémon Channel for Gamecube with different endings.
Happen to have a source on that? Love to see it if you do.
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 I have a copy of the game somewhere in the house. I'll ask my brother where our Gamecube is. I was so obsessed with that game I must have unlocked about everything. I even found Jirachi!
The game had an original anime short included that ended with a cgi Meowth performing Meowth’s Party at a concert. (He interacted with the audience during the concert and there were actually a few different randomized versions of that part). The short episode could be watched in three versions: English, Japanese, and “narrated by Kasumi.” The Japanese versions did not contain subtitles but did give me some of my first insights into what the Japanese end of the franchise was like.
I wonder why Pokémon JP version is locked up. Nothing else is this locked up. I use to watch it in Japanese starting with DP
I have that DVD of the first three movies. Now I gotta take it off my shelf and see if it really does list Meowth's Party on it.
This guy really was the internet in the past, for having many knowledge and realization.
If anyone ever had any doubts about your level of knowledge or fact-checking, it be obliterated by this video. This is a SERIOUSLY deep dive into some pretty die hard topics. Even I had forgotten that "OK!" doubled as a CD-ROM. Pokemon Encore is sadly most lost, but I'd love to hear your take on the follow up variety series if you ever get a chance to dive into it. You've been around the block long enough that i'm sure you've watched clips of Pokemon Sunday. Also, one omission, one of the French Mystery Dungeon DVD"s had the entire short In Japanese as a bonus feature, subtitled. Little known fact.
Also, the jab you make at the end, if you're looking for inspiration on a video, the topic of the seires on DVD in Japan is actually pretty interesting. There's only 65 episodes that you could actually buy and own for yourself for the original series.
Keep up the good work :-)
Thanks so much for the kind words, dude! I've definitely watched a few Pokemon Sunday segments in my day, primarily from HGSS to early X and Y. This video partially started out as a look into Pokemon DVDs (with a particular focus on the Japanese side) but if I can find more info about the subject, I'd love to cover it in excessive detail.
Also wow, I didn't know about that Mystery Dungeon fact at all - that's quite the pre-order bonus for the games haha.
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 If there's a good way to get in touch, I'd be happy to help contribute any information for a DVD video. Would love to see it.
@@nobodyshouldask Check out my "about" section on here, or hit me up on Twitter if you're there!
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 Just a heads up, your DM's are private. I've followed you just now (username has a bunch of underscores).
@@nobodyshouldask I'll get to ya within the next day or so. :)
The ironic thing is that an important representative of Pokemon, promoted piracy and showed no concern for his product outside of Japan... by spoiling the end of Pokemon Journey xd on social networks with great fanfare, in multi languages. Well, at that moment there were several chapters left for Netflix to get to that episode.... and whoever wanted to find out what I was talking about if they weren't up to date... went to see it pirated
Oh wow! As someone who grew up with the First Movie VHS it's cool to know the history behind that little Alakazam clip! What a great video !
Haha, thanks! Glad you got a little revelation from that Alakazam clip.
I definitely remember having tgat Winter Vacation vhs, but i dont remember the Japanese opening being on it. It very well could have been on there, and I just most likely forgot.
Insane amounts of research on this, respect man
Great Video CG8000! From,Gabe
There is no reason they can't have the dub ready the same day it airs in Japan. Space Dandy had English episodes airing on Adult Swim before they aired in Japan, and that was over 10 years ago by much smaller companies! It's like they WANT people to pirate Pokemon!
Although this has like a 0.0001% chance of happening what I would like to see is a mostly uncut re-dub of the 4Kids-era episodes with the current cast that are more faithful to the original.
Professor oak lecture actually got featured in the rotom episode in BW even dubbed lol
Why does Canada get the anime before the US?
There’s been many times where countries outside the US have gotten episodes months before America.
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 I blame Netflix
@@sonic23233It’s been happening well before Netflix. There have been episodes from the Hoenn saga that aired in the UK months before the US.
It's nuts to see the turnaround for the dubbed episodes
Much as i love both anime, it is a very odd decision on TPC's end.
I wish they released Pokémon in japanese on DVD editions in USA & Europe. By not including an original version is stupid in my oppinion. The same goes for the Yu-Gi-Oh! tv-shows too like Duel Monsters & GX. The DVDs that dont have the original versions, like the japanese uncensored, uncut unchanged versions of Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters & Yu-Gi-Oh! GX are worthless to me.
This is fascinating video i saw there & I wonder if pokemon could do a simuldub even probably too much work 🤷♂️ i don't know. I see the Japanese version because it has better music & I get to see the show right from Japan seeing the original version without any dub edits so yeah an offical fansub simulcast would be nice huh? Though I like watching the dub because i don't have to read subtitles you get me? It's fascinating pokemon prove they can release Japanese version of pokemon to international audience yet we don't have simulcast at the very least if the dub is delayed🤷♂️
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Like I said in a comment on the Mario movie review, I avoid spoilers like the plague, and I used to get spoilers of games from a youtuber (I won't name drop him, because I'm a nice person.), and he would spoil the new Paper Mario game by showing me the bosses before I got the chance to reach them (not to mention a character's death), and it *BUGGED* me!
So, yeah... Even if I don't watch much of the Pokémon anime these days, I think I know how you feel...
Sorry for what you've been through...
People should be allowed the option to watch an official subbed version. On Hulu, Naruto Shippuden has both the dubbed and subbed versions for those who prefer either or both. Pokemon should do that as well.
I honestly think people care to much about spoilers I want to know if it's good before I take time out of my day to watch its I watch clips see for myself then decide weather I want to watch it or not.
Speak for yourself - tons of people don't want to be spoiled about a lot of things.
So, time for some cold water. Based on my interactions with folks at tournaments and conventions, I think the majority of the fanbase is somewhat interested in the Japanese version of the anime, but is generally fine with a few bits and pieces here and there, and the proportion who would really want to dig into a subbed version on a regular basis is actually smaller than most anime, but appears larger due to the scope of the franchise, and the dynamics of online media. I wouldn’t be surprised if the uptake on the Japanese audio track on MSBE was proportionally lower than expected and other anime on Netflix.
I wouldn’t mind there being a better way to access the Japanese version of the anime, but I can see some reasons why it isn’t more common.
I just find it odd that shows with smaller install bases get a subbed version right out the gate. Even if the demand isn’t as big as we make it out to be, I see no reason why Pokemon can’t give it to us, given nearly everyone else in the industry does. There are people out there who are shocked to hear Pokemon has no official subs, believing the fansubs are the real deal.
It came to a head when they outright spoil things for dub viewers and they have no option. That’s where I drew the line.
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 I wish I had some hard figures to go on, but this doesn't seem like something Gallup or AP will be doing a poll on anytime soon, so unless there's a leak of internal research, we may never know the exact numbers. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if there was some weird logistical/contractual stuff specific to the Pokémon that made it more difficult/expensive than it seems from an outside perspective.
W vid.
Meh, English dub best way to watch the story anyways, big improvement, makes sense they wouldn't bother since the dub is so big and iconic and good for the brand
The dub is garbage, they need to be more true to the original!
*PromoSM* 🌈