Inside NHS detox centre - Victoria Derbyshire
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- The NHS could save £27m a year by changing the way it deals with alcoholic patients, new research seen by the Victoria Derbyshire programme suggests. Alcohol abuse costs the NHS £3.8bn a year, £145 for each household in the UK - one in three of all A&E admissions are alcohol related, which can rise to 70% on a weekend. But patients who attend the emergency department or inpatient ward at a Manchester hospital in with issues related to alcohol abuse can now be sent to a specialist unit where they are treated for their addiction for a week. Some 75% of the people who come through the unit do not go back to hospital for at least the next three months. Independent analysis from John Moore's University found the unit saved the NHS £1.3m a year. If the same approach was taken across the country the researchers say it could save the NHS £27.5 m in England alone.
Jim Reed reports.
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I did my detox in the place in the video. I spent 2 weeks in here.
I was drinking 30+ cans of Stella a day.
This place saved me. I was 34 when I went in there. 18 months sober now
Keep it up , one day at a time you'll get there in the end
Congrats buddy, keep it up
What is stella ?
Fred Soda Loopy juice
Keep it up! Rooting for you:)
8 days sober, hope i can keep going
Stay strong 💪 U can do it
@@supertajnykana8146 fucked it mate
8 days is still good...I've been clean for 10 months and it's so worth it..I have my life back..keep going ..1 day at a time...you will be surprised when 8 days turns into 8 weeks ..I had to detox in hospital and had hallucinations the lot..I'm never going there again ..good luck ..be strong ..8 days is brilliant well done
Congratulations!
Still sober?
Just clocked 1 year sober and don't intend to start drinking that poison for the rest of my life. One day at a time sure adds up quickly.
Well done man i stilk take it 1 day at a time and my last drink was in 1999
Well done, congrats 🎊
Congratulations well done iam an ex addict and know how hard life is so its just one day at a time an stay busy an dont worry about life, well done
Wonderful news, you’ve got this!!!
Wish I could do I drink a bottle of vodka a day and hide it from everyone I dare not ask for help but it's killing me
Addiction is the only prison where the key is inside.
Brandon Wilson mental illness?
S B ok 👍
That is such a sad but beautiful statement. ❤️
No, trauma is as well.
S B you’re disgusting. Some people can’t help it. Some people are born addicts. Some people can’t fit in and are pressured into drugs. Your parents probably handed you everything. You’ve never struggled you’ve never been there. You buddy are the type of people that should catch a round.
After two stints in detox, three A & E visits and many years of struggling, I've been sober for 3 years and I feel amazing. It took me til I was 34 to finally get myself sober but I'm so grateful I did it. I still smile to myself every morning when I wake up with no hangover, feeling healthy.
👏👏👏👍👌
Keep going. I’m still drinking and it’s no good. Productive but still bad. Haven’t woken sober for 20 years. Doctor says liver is in trouble. You’re doing well, All the best.
Took me heaps of visits to And E, 4 rehabs, 2 jail terms and until I was 47 before I decided to stop drinking permanently.
14 months sober and don't really miss anything about it.
When I think about the way that I was drinking before, it scares me, can't believe I was so irresponsible with my life.....
@@anthonywhite9912, Same thing here, countless stays in hospital, vomiting pure blood and the DT's.
@@onioncutter6847 I truly hope you find your way out of this.
My mother is a alcoholic, I've seen her relapse many times but thankfully she's now 3 years clean. These places are a lifeline, everybody deserves a second chance
I'm so happy to read this, wishing you and your mother all the best!
God bless you 😢I'm finding myself wanting to apologies to you on behalf of all people with addictions!! I wish I could do more or offer you some red hot advice or something but I can't😢 all I can say is,,,the desire to be sober needs to come from your mum's heart and know one can put it there except her. I am fifty years old this year and in recovery because it's my last chance,please don't give me sympathy,,I honestly feel that sympathy is like a big chunk of chocolate that I'm sick of. You stay strong and the very best of luck with your mum😊
@@RobertBoyle11 thank you 😊
@@buskingkarma2503 no need for apologies, I made my peace with it a long time ago, and I understand about the sympathy thing, hope your ok 😊
wish my mum would have done this , she would be alive now , so happy that yours has done this though , on a long term basis it is addictive as heroin , by that I mean the mental addiction stays with you , respect too your mum Jaimie
This place saved my life
Hope you are doing better. Sending you good energy.
It saved my life to.
Proud of you!
Keep going, so proud of you! If you ever need anyone to talk to about it, I've been close to the brink myself
Wow. Best of luck bud
This place saved my life and I've done 20 months now
Well done xx
Fantastic
Amazing news !! Go you :)
The nurse at the beginning seems so empathic and caring.
The nurses doing this kind of work are amazing people
John Courtney is a lot like me when I was drinking. I was drinking about a litre of vodka a day as well, quite often without eating anything. I also had an accident during my last drinking session where I fell down the stairs at home into the wall in the hallway. I broke my back during that wee trip. I used to take seizures as well and I honestly don't know how many times I was hospitalized because of them. Things changed for me during my last drink as well, things I cannot explain. I knew deep down inside of me that was it, that was my last drink. I felt different and that's where the answer lies, deep down inside. That was nearly 12 years ago now and although life has been bumpy with lots of ups and downs since then, I haven't touched a drink.
God bless and keep you! That’s quite a life story.
Good for you 🌈
Well done you ! Stay well
Thank you for detailing your experience. I am in the midst of stopping after about 20-25 units a day. Its hell but this time (8 years later) im GOING TO DO IT. It has ruined my finances, health and untold other things but your story plus the others in the comments and video are helping me cope
@@itemushmush stay strong 💪🏻
I was there!!! 29december too January 11 2021. It literally saved my life!!
I'm 6 month clean this month next week.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!!
Well done mate! I hope you keep your head up
Great news, you’re smashing it. Did they arrange after care for you when you got out, I think that’s so important.
Congratulations
How are you today?
Being put in a no way out situation makes quitting easier. I was a severe alcoholic in Thailand who went broke and went to stay with the Buddhist monks. I went thru the DTs and quit with no medication, alone. That was 12 years ago and I'm still sober.
What a load of bollocks.
@@Sirjohnfootball Wow! You are cleaver. You're like a modern Nostradamus. Can I study under you in the school of dumb shit?
I call BS
Did you go through physical with drawels?
@@ghfamghgam1172 Terribly
12 years for me.. it was a tough year. I had a moment where I bought a bottle of rum in case I “had guests”. I never have guests. Who was I kidding? I thank god that I poured it down the drain.
Well done for pouring it away, amazing! And if you do have guests, they should respect you and not drink near you, or not expect alcohol when visiting. 🙂
Proud of you for pouring that bottle Debra you did the right thing. Keep on moving forward you can do it, just remember how awful you felt from hangovers or withdrawal when using that's what keeps me straight.
I'm so proud of you. Every sober breath is worth the struggle, my friend. You've got this!
I'm still alive today, thanks to the compassion the NHS and Aquarius
showed me !!
When I was in the worst place in life .. 🙏☕🤗
Soo sad that these detox centre's arent in every city and towns. The billion pound alcohol industry should help fund these centres as their critically needed.
Why tho it goes against customers
Honestly I never blamed the alcohol industry for my addiction. I just don't think it's their fault. Alcohol shouldn't be prohibited but it should be drank only in moderation.
@@johnnylebay2059
Exactly.. EVERYTHING IN MODERATION, 100% ...you can become severely unhealthy and become hospitalized due to eating too many unhealthy foods.. doesn’t mean it should be illegal ..
erm no? stealing money from businesses to pay for a societal issue is madness, its like asking car company's to pay for car accidents it makes 0 sense. people need help sometimes and these places are good but communistic stealing is not the answer when we spend 3 billion on people from other countries coming over using our NHS and not paying
No they would never do that especially in the United States
For all those in the comments who are fighting to stay sober or help someone dealing with alcoholism, I know it’s really tough by you are doing the right thing. Keep going, it will get better! And congratulations to those who freed themselves from it, great job!
It breaks my heart watching this because I’ve been through it, I’ve currently hit a relapse and I’m trying my hardest to fight it, I don’t wish addiction on my worst enemy, it’s the devil, I pray everyone gets the help they need.
Relapses happen. Please don't get down on yourself, your life isn't over. You can do this, my friend. 👍🏼👌🏼🌻
Hi there I stopped drinking many times and relapse again. I hope I can't get rid of this addiction completely 😞
@@inciMoawad you can do it. I was addicted to opioids because of chronic pain. It took many attempts to kick it. Putting pressure on yourself makes it more difficult. Keep trying, but be kind to yourself.
@@inciMoawad keep fighting and don’t give up, don’t be too hard on yourself if you relapse, just get control of it and fight fight fight, that’s all we can do, I hope and pray everyone that has an addiction can fight against it and live a better life
@@ladyofthecreek279 i was also addicted to Tilidin and the withdrawal was awful tbh. It's almost 10 years ago but you know i found it "easier" because it wasn't available for me anymore after my rehab but with alcohol, it's hard it's almost everywhere here in Germany and I noticed people are reacting weird when you tell them "no" to drink. I lost my mom because of alcohol and I got two beautiful kids...alone this is worth it to try and try again 💪🏻
There should be warnings on cans and bottles just like cigarettes
There are
warnings do nothing if you still wanna smoke you're gonna smoke no matter what
I’m so sorry that you were treated badly! Not all nurses treat those with addictions badly! We are trained and have the compassion to help you to recover.
Everyone should have a tattoo warning them to wear shoes, that way you don't stub your toe.
capitan von chicken pants in Scotland about 70% of junkies are sent to A&E from alcohol problems
6 weeks sober now and feel great. Shows what a nasty cheap drug alcohol really is.
Alcohol is definitely not a “cheap” drug in New Zealand I’m pretty sure you can get heroin from a drug dealer for cheaper
It's the worst drug there is, unlike things like heroin etc alcohol cravings will NEVER go away. I don't touch it
@@starsandlightning2472 alcohol is not worse than heroin. Get real.
@@G2020- no its actually worse to come off...... do your research
@@starsandlightning2472 ive done both heroins worse mate fuck ur statistics
1 week 1 day sober. I do one day at a time. Hopefully this time next year, I’ll be able to say 1 year sober 😃
one day at a time! the lie is dead, we do recover
I believe in you!
You’ve got this!!!
You are doing fine. One day a time.
You got this!!
75% in three months seems like a really great outcome. Hats off to the team
I was homeless at 16 due to family problems I never drunk or taken drugs but the horrible sights I saw when I walked them streets gives me nightmares today. I applaud those willing to take steps to change there lives it's a horrible and dangerous world out there. From a once young kid belive me it's a world unseen by many and a world you do not want to see god bless those trying to change there lifes
Take care, Peter😊
I hope you're safe, well, happy and surrounded by people who love and support you 💕
You were homeless at 16 and never did drugs? That is an impressive feature
Oh Peter that is awful. I can only imagine what your innocent eyes seem, there’s no way you wouldn’t be traumatised from that experience. I hope you have a lot joy in your life right now and you are loved and cared for x
Our culture really needs a shake up.
The way alcohol drinking is encouraged astounds me. It begins with your parents, encouraging you to try wine or beer at a very young age. We constantly bash cigarettes, sugar and food yet this poison is more destructive than any substance I've listed above. And not only to users themselves.
People work hard and are allowed a drink, i don't want to take that liberty from anyone. But we need a serious reform on education and how we look at alcohol.
My parents never encourage me to try drinking from a younge age that's just bad parenting wtf?
Drink is cheaper and more accessible than ever before in the U.K. All retailers and manufacturers should have that £3.4 billion in healthcare costs between them. Every year. Maybe then drink won’t be sold as a loss leader in supermarkets.
its accepted as a norm as they want people dumb down this is why alcohol was invented in the first place they want a world full of disharmony and people with addictions bring about this it feeds the unseen forces of the darkness that govern rain over this world everything in this simulated world is put in place to serve there objectives this is why everything in this world is a joke by design
A lot of parents do allow kids to drink, I was drinking smirnoff ice and WKD from about 5 years old
I agree. Alcohol is a horrible drug. It has zero medical benefits like crack cocaine or heroin, so I can't believe it's even legal. Marijuana at least has medical benefits.
Great documentary and well done to everyone that are recovering.
I’m a nurse on a drug and alcohol team in an acute hospital. I love my job and I love helping people. People with substance misuse issues come from all walks of life. Unfortunately I have witnessed some utterly dreadful medical care towards these people from both nursing staff and doctors, they’re human beings and deserve to be treated with respect. Alcoholism is an illness and it’s not their fault, something happened in their lives for this to happen.
To everyone that’s recovering, well done and keep going. To everyone that’s still drinking, everyday is a new day and people do care
Bless you always 🤗🤗
@@MissOrchid12 Thank you ❤️
It’s sad seeing a lot of them coming in repeatedly. Then they apologise as they feel guilty, but I just sit, talk and listen and help in anyway I can. Unfortunately there are not that many rehab centres in the UK and due to the high cost, it’s hard to get the funding. We’ve had success stories from some of our clients.
@@leonk3011 You’re doing great Leon. Unfortunately some “professionals” display inexcusable behaviour. Everyone has a story to tell, I find if you take time to listen, you can understand. Nobody wakes up in the morning and decided that they’re going to be an alcoholic or a drug addict. I’ve also worked in prison and some were the most polite people I’ve ever met.
@@leonk3011 It’s true, that was one of the first things my colleague ever said to me & it’s stuck in my head. We all have issues in one way or another and anyone that says anything different is lying!
@@vc23 this! i have stopped going to my GP because I keep on getting reprimanded by her for just not stopping. she just doesnt understand at all, which is fine but show some empathy towardss us. I am currently taking the initiative and going outside of the medical system for support. its only recently that this has switched in my head after 8 years
My god that's depressing. I tend to binge drink myself once a week typically on the weekend and am actually starting to get a bit sick of the hangovers and money wasted.
Ask your dr about naltrexone - it helps reduce binge drinking. Peace ✌
@@foxtrot7851 isn't that an opiate antagonist ?
I had my last alcoholic drink new years eve 1999. I only missed it for about 6 weeks now i couldnt imagine going out and blowing a load of money to feel like shit the next day.
@@foxtrot7851
What is naltrexone used for?
Naltrexone belongs to a class of drugs known as opiate antagonists. It works in the brain to prevent opiate effects (e.g., feelings of well-being, pain relief). It also decreases the desire to take opiates.
@@georgebrown2190 Naltrexone is also used for alcoholism. Had been FDA approved in the USA for 20 years.
Makes sense as it is an opioid agonist and opioids relieve anxiety and depression, which is what most alcoholics are trying to achieve. So the alcohol becomes unnecessary and is naturally quit.
Ofc they won't tell you that, they will just say that the "medicine" treats the "disease" of alcoholism.
1 month sober today, places like this have saved my life many times and this time its for good. ❤️
still sober from last year mate..respectfully
I worked in recovery for 8 yrs, I have 13 years clean from drugs and went to a state run facility. I was a horror but I have never relapse and kept moving forward. The pain of withdrawal is worth the life you can have 💜
I did a 5 1/2 day detox and I've been sober for almost 4 years. But I'm here in the states
Fast Internet lol right. What a loser.
@Fast Internet *quitter
I don''t understand what you mean. Please explain.
@@jenniferwilcox9759 its just a play on words because they quit drinking.
Stay with it !
I was treated here I've been abstinent now for 3 years
Our grorious reader has beat addiction
@@JohnSmith-yf5bk LOL
Off of opium? Cool.
Damn education board need to educate young children about the effects of alcoholism. Just because it’s a social norm doesn’t mean you should give into it and destroy your health happiness and sanity
@Speaking Truth they need to tell the truth about addiction show actually people who’s lives have been destroyed. Traumatise the kids early so they don’t ever start
My uncles marriage of 30+ ended badly in divorce losing his home kids and now he’s homeless all because society and peer pressure caused lead him to that path at an early age. His life is destroyed
@@piqueny8872 research has shown that shock tatics dont work and in many cases have the opposite effect. It isn't about scarring people it's about providing support and addressing the factors that lead people to drink addiction is about so much more than the substance itself.
I woke up one day and realized I was an alcoholic . Its scared the piss out me like how did I end up here ? Not recommend but I went cold turkey after drinking 6 / 10 cans daily over 11 plus years solid . Now I'm not the same person I feel so much better mind , body and soul . I did it for me as nobody in my family ever said ( hey buddy what's happened to you ? Your drinking too much ) And if they did it may not have stopped me . Good luck to ya all I wish you all well in all future endeavors .
Good for you.
You know you can die going cold turkey? Good for you though was sober for 5 years and fell back into again last year
@@maggiewestern7550 exactly. Glad he's ok but this is extremely dangerous. If you are quitting, get professional help!!!!!
It can be fatal to quit alcohol cold turkey, but very uncommon at this level. That being said, it is best to get advice to be on the safe side
6-10 cans? Lol.
Go back to bed Lil guy
This place is a lifesaver for people. More of these hospitals are needed.
I been sober now thirteen and a half years now could never go bk to that hell of drinking into obliveon
These NHS staff are Angel's helping these people on the road to new lives also all the individuals on the program have been brave to get the help they deserve ❤
It breaks my heart to see people going through the hell that addiction is. Hope all people could get the help and support to overcome it
There is a drinking culture in the North especially. It's very difficult to be t-total, yet still have a social life. A lot of pressure, "go one, just have one," "you can have one,etc." Its like getting you to drink relieves their anxiety!
I wish people would just respect each others choices, and leave it at that. Instead of trying to make people feel as if their is something wrong with them, because they're choosing a healthier lifestyle. If anyone can stop drinking up north, then they are a very strong person!
I live in county durham and havent had any alcohol since 1999 and it hasnt effected my social life.
You need to change your environment. I live in the north, but cycle , volunteer, exercise. If you’re around drinkers they’ll want to drink. But not everyone up north is a drinker ........ there’ll always be an excuse
It's just their guilt of drinking and they don't want to be reminded of it, so they try to make you drink to relieve their guilt. Once you get used to the reasons of their pressure, it becomes pathetic and easy to deal with, because secretly there wishing that they were not drinking too.
I’ve never had much pressure but if someone does try to I just tell them I’m an alcoholic - they quickly change their tune then! Don’t put up with peer pressure mate - are the people you’re hanging out with adults? I don’t know any adults with any life experience who would ever pressure someone to drink - were not in high school ffs! Sad that’s happening to you tho. Im guessing the people doing it must have problems with t themselves otherwise they wouldn’t care if you drink or not
That might be true but to have a good life and happier life without all the problems that drinking/alcoholism can bring along with anxiety anxiousness family problems work if we are fortunate to have employment and all the other problems with this highly addictive substance . That's why many of us make the decision to STOP no matter where we live. Go to the rooms of AA it's available near you try it, it can change your life God Bless.
I pray they all stay sober for life 🤞
Angels work there! And those that go there for help are angels that need angels help❤️
You are so right. I lost the love of my life to alcohol. He could'nt stop drinking ... he was an angel ...
So sorry,I stopped drinking 3days ago,I used to drink 500ml vodka a day.
Seeing someone destroying themselves is one off the most painful things to deal with i’ve never had a father it hurts
I've never had a father or mother and I just wanted to say that I share your pain. Pain shared is pain halved
15 years sober. Can never go near a alcohol drink again.
I had hit my rock bottom. Woke up one morning still hung over but with such depression. Visited 2 x AA meetings that day.Didnt need to go to another AA meeting again. Didn't want a drink that day or day after or since.
Instead of staying in drinking alone hiding away at weekends i now get dressed up and go out. Drink cola or energy drinks. My mum was an alcoholic and died aged 33
What people don’t understand is that addiction is not a choice - as someone else said I would not wish it on my worst enemy - it really is the devil and I have such respect for any addict who had this disease , and for any one that tried to overcome and heal from it ❤
its not a choice to have the disease, but its a choice to drink or not. don't surrender your power over your own actions, its ALWAYS a choice.
@@maltezz unfortunately it isn’t always that simple - that’s why people die daily from this horrible disease - sometimes the compulsion is so strong it has such a grip , that without the proper support or help , etc, it just isn’t possible not to pick up. That’s what makes it so terrifying, and misunderstood. If it was as simple as a choice, a lot of people wouldn’t be addicts in the first place. I get what you’re saying, I used to think the same thing …… it’s just not that easy
@@eriomnyc6073 i have the disease. it is a choice you have the power to say NO. So far i have said no for 13 months.
@@maltezz I’m really happy for you that has been your experience ♥️ congrats :)
Absolute myth. Every alcoholic makes the choice. Every day.
I am so inspired by anyone who is beating addiction each day. There is a level of bravery, commitment, determination and grit involved that is highly commendable by absolutely anyone's standards. Sadly, some are pre-disposed to not have the ability and/or the opportunity to display this level of human spirit. I spend a moment often, to think of those who were not afforded these gifts. I am grateful for my sobriety each day.
Perfect. Grateful for the sobriety. I hear you.
This is so sad. I'm going through this myself and I can't even sleep at night due to withdrawals. Due to the pandemic things have been worse because of a shortage of health care workers quitting. Alcohol is no joke and it will kill you. I hope people understand that this is a real serious disease. I pray people can find the help they need.
I'm sending my love to you ❤
I think I just lost my job from drinking
The devil’s juice. “At first you take a drink, then the drink takes you”
@@oliviaoldaker are you trying to quit?
Such a sad thing , easy to fall into alcoholism , go from having a drink , to wanting a drink, to needing a drink .. hope everyone battling this disease can find sobriety 💖
We need these centers. They are vital to help people with this disease process and to help them with coping skills .
Alcohol abuse is INCREDIBLY hard to break as a cycle. It took me 3+ visits to A+E for severe dehydration (I was never a violent or reckless drunk, thankfully) before I finally managed to get sober. I detoxed at home, personally, but I had strict advice from my doctor on what to do, and family around me to monitor me. Not everyone has that.
What was it that finally brought me around and broke the cycle? I can tell you the exact moment. It was the last time I was in A+E. The doctor discharging me after treatment said something to me that just stuck with me in a profound way. She said "You have so many years left to live a good life." I was in a place where the future wasn't something I could even conceive of. I just didn't have one as far as I was concerned. Her saying that one sentence which I doubt she even remembers saying changed the world for me. I did have a future, I DO have a future, and I could still turn things around.
Crazy part is that doctor literally saved my life in that moment, and she doesn't even know it. Sad part is I've since tried to track her down to thank her, but been unsuccessful.
I wish you the best. I agree its crazy how a kind word can turn it all around
Even something relatively tame
The Last guy nailed it, alcohol is a poison, it is.
Alcohol is a drug, we are ppl with the disease of addiction who need to abstain from ALL drugs in order to recover! ❤️
This video is leaving a big part of this process out: what the NHS workers actually have to deal with themselves with some patients who abuse alcohol. NHS staff have to regularly suffer from verbal and physical abuse by people who do not want to change, or at least, aren't ready to make the changes in order to improve. The people in this video and people similar who want to change should absolutely get help and support where it is needed, but the people who are brought into A&E by ambulance and want to self discharge straight away without any support and regularly keep coming into hospital are a drain on the NHS, the tax payer and the country. A colleague of mine has been hospitalised themselves when dealing with these patients because they were hit so hard they loss contiousness.
It's important to show that this process isn't as easy and 'nice' as this video makes it out to be. If all alcoholics wanted support and were not abusing NHS staff then this process would be so much easier and a lot more people would get behind it, but I've seen first hand that a lot of people getting admitted to hospitals do not want to be there, and will continue to abuse NHS staff to get what they want.
I know this is probably going to get me a lot of hate, but it's just my personal opinion and I'm sorry if I have offended anyone. I really hope that all patients suffering from alcohol dependency recover, but some patients just do not want to change, and will hurt people trying to support them if they do not get what they want.
Yes that is the tragedy of addiction. Unfortunately most addicts will die of their disease or related conditions because they don't 'want' to recover (I know it isn't really as simple as wanting to). My partner is police and we have a serious problem with alcohol abuse in New Zealand. Often police and A&E staff have to work together to dance around these aggressive patients who just refuse to stay at the hospital or access help and end up being arrested again few hours later, because they've seriously assaulted someone or similar.
I’m a gastro nurse and this comment is true. There is a lot of abuse we go through weekly. Those who are willing to change they accept the detox help. The others that are still fighting the mental battles will be back be problematic get detox then back and by the end of the year or 2 have end stage liver failure and have about 3-4 months left and I’ve witnessed very severe consequences and painful deaths that alcoholic liver disease has caused. It’s very traumatic for the staff dealing with theses patients. And sad for the relatives some of these people are so young.
My Father was an alcoholic, my Brother was an alcoholic and my Sister was also an alcoholic and they all died early. I think part of being an alcoholic is hereditary !
Strong genetic links
Maybe it is but you can change this life god luck ☘
I wish we had that in Canada. Ability to go straight from ER to addiction care.
They do you just have to pay for it.
This place is pretty rare, I always just go home to finish the detox when I get out of hospital
They do if you’re really bad and in the hospital for a while. When I went to treatment, most of the patients I was with had come straight from the hospital. They wouldn’t have survived having to be on the wait list while out of the hospital.
How about getting the alcohol makers to help pay the bill???...
We do... We tax alcohol.
Everything is fine in moderation, if you abuse anything it’s bad for you.
Are you American? In Europe, UK, Canada...it's taxed for that reason.
Love that this place exist. It’s not a choice, I discovered that when i was able to quit smoking cigarettes after 7 years and didn’t crave them at all. When i tried quitting alcohol, it was hell. I’m sober now but access to a detox facility was a struggle here in the US
American here. I can't believe how nice these detox places are. The food looks much better too. You folks seem very lucky.
Wow this is a great thing the Dr's nurses all the volunteers are doing for people who suffering from this disease. I really applaud all of you. Lets people like my self that has suffered from this disease for a long time and know so many people suffering from it. THAT THEIR IS HOPE. THANK GOD.
This is what supporting Everton does to a man
My dad died of alcoholism in March 2016, age 53. It is such a damaging and almost pointless drug. Yet psychedelics, which are mind-expanding and almost completely safe in terms of toxicity and have peer-reviewed studies to back up their healing properties regarding addiction are illegal. Our society is detrimental and we have really done a huge disservice to ourselves.
It’s all about the money
Psychichedelics make people go from zero issues to mental illness, so NO, they're not safe no matter what scientists or the pope says about it.
Spot on man
Alcohol is worse than tobacco, yet when is the last time you've seen a stop drinking ad?
@@GrimmthtI saw a stop drinking at about 5 minutes ago, what point are you trying to make.
6o hours sober
My dad died a few months ago from drinking, cirrhosis, one day his liver just gave up. These services are so important. I know it can’t save everyone but it can be life saving to so many others.
I've lost my daughter and son my son got a rehab for a wk in Manchester where addicts were knocking on the door to his room asking him if he had a can for them
Please accept My condolences..
Sorry to hear that, what other symptoms did he have I'm worried about my health
@@brendadrumm9451 😢
Lost my brother 2018 cirrhosis of the liver he was only 46
Many come from abusive homes. Physical, sexual and emotional abuse many times effect the person their whole life until they address the issue.
My mother was an alcoholic. I say was as the drink killed her in 2018. We tried so hard to help her, paid thousands to put her through rehab, she was imprisoned, she was told time and time again that the next drink would kill her.. it just didn’t work. I wish she could’ve gotten help like that.
Same with my mom. She was drunk the day she left rehab. She passed 5 moths later. Nothing can make them stop.😢
Same with my mom. She was drunk the day she left rehab. She passed 5 moths later. Nothing can make them stop.😢
Derek seems like a nice very likeable guy. I hope he finds the peace he deserves.
He died in 2016
Poor bloke
Detox’s on their own isn’t the answer without some intensive after-care, peer-to-peer support & the structure of a recovery community.
Yes - if you detox and you leave feeling great but don't do any after care (AA, SMART Recovery, group or one on one support) your chances of relapse are high. Detox is just getting you back to normal. Trying to stay there is the hard part especially when drinking is so socially acceptable everywhere you go. Try taking a vacation to Hawaii with everyone on vacation drinking around you all day long by the pool and not want to join in. It's tough.
We live in a culture in the uk where drink is aggressively promoted not just by advertisers but by people! How many times have you head people say 'go on, have a drink!' And look at you funny if you order a Diet Coke at the bar. Until this societal promotion and pressure to drink changes I think it's only right the taxpayer picks up the pieces for the casualties of this dangerous drug although I also believe alcohol companies should be taxed higher.
Matt Stocks I am an ex alcy and I get this ALL the time. Well said brother.
exactly.... im australian and its the same here, i been to detox twice and both times my main concern was 'what will ppl think if dont drink wen i go out??' its a problem as a society.
Matt Stocks I watched a family members life crash, after breaking up with his babies mother, where he started hanging in a pub and staying up all night, which progressed to cocaine then debt, lack of paying child support and hiding away from people. I am not saying that that is true to all but just an example of the most lethal legal drug out there (alcohol)!
Well said and totally agree. As much as I miss the UK (I live elsewhere now) I don't miss this side of British culture. There is also the attitude that if you do seek help you're seen as somehow weak. Bullshit, it takes A LOT of balls to seek help as your life will be forever changed!
Matt Stocks same in australia
Watching stuff like this keeps me determined. I had my last drink almost 18 months ago
My relative was an alcoholic and heavy smoker. He had liver disease starting in. He fell down the stairs and got a back head brain injury and bleed to raccoon eyes. He mentally quit booze and nicotine easily in hospital with no understanding nor physical pain. It was so weird to sit with him when he's sober and not stinking bad from smokes for the first time in decades. His Dr. gave him 2 nicotine patches a week after his fall.
I’m currently on day 26 after last probably 10-15 years of 10-20 cans/pints of cider every day without fail. Started as a few after work, which turned into 8 pints every night after work, then drinking at home all weekend. Felt like crap every day, workmates calling me a raving alcoholic. So I just stopped. Haven’t had any side effects except for a pounding headache most days but that’s starting to stop now. Feels weird being sober I can’t even remember what it’s like as I used to abuse recreational drugs before I started drinking. Managed to hold down a really good well paid job throughout which I love and have no intention of losing. I actually like myself again and honestly don’t think I’ll ever touch another drop. As in the other comments no one ever said “hey, you ok? We think your drinking too much” doing it by myself, FOR myself. Good luck to everyone in the same situation 🙌
Congrats man. That's my goal. Gotta stay strong. Wish me luck. 🙏
Did you relapse yet?
How’s it going a year on?
My parents are alcoholics. They destroyed my childhood and their own life because of it. I’ve never had a drink,I’m 25 and I’m not planning on ever trying. It put me off so much,all these bottles of alcohol,I can’t stand the smell.
Same dude
This is a brilliant place well done to the staff they all came over nice and are not judging
I started drinking when l joined the Royal Navy aged 17, and spent the 40 years going through the whole horrible gambit of very heavy drinking. At the funeral of a very dear nephew, l made a vow that, this was it l was finished with alcohol. I had made many such vowa over the years and none of them lasted. This time it did, Stopped when I was 57, l am now 91,and in perfect health aged 91 and on no medication. Never even think about alcohol. It can be done.
I seriously think we need to re think the laws around alcohol and even the substance it’s self. I don’t mind a drink now and then but I believe the fact it is sooooo widely available and ingrained in our culture is the reason it has become such a problem.
What kinds of people work in places like this? The very best kinds of human beings work in places like this. Life savers . Angels. Can’t thank them enough. Godbless them all! They understand ,these people are vulnerable,mental health. Addiction. Etc. The government MUST stop closing theses places down
4:57 she's absolutely correct, the majority of people can't understand why place so many recourses into what is basically a black hole. The level off compassion, patience and understanding is beyond what the common person can imagine.
I type that as an addict off over 30 years or 3/4 off my life. I know how futile recovery can be. I'm only clean thanks to methadone but recently I've been drinking like crazy. I'll even significantly cut back on the meth before a major binge, getting a slight excitement which builds before drinking. It gets so bad my hands will be trembling and I'll down 3 pints within a few minutes.
Last night I went through 25-30 units in a 12 hour period. I woke up feeling horrible but at 8pm today (boxing Day) I was back at it. I don't even get drunk, I'll just feel a little better then as time goes on a little more depressed.
PS: off topic but I always found it funny how drinkers looked down on drug users. My CDU used to separate us. They'd often get verbal, on the odd occasion physical but they couldn't do much with that coordination.
Try and get yourself some more help fella
It's a shame what they have to go through.
may day You never had a drink in your life?
@@EVSmith-by9no nope
I was in the hospital for alcohol withdrawal years ago. I had 10 mg of Ativan in my IV and was still shaking and tachycardial. Went in an induced coma for 3 weeks. After then i needed 6 months in a rehabilitation facility to kind of relearn how to do everything. When i got there i could not feed myself, bathe myself or even wipe my own ass. I was a 26 year old man who had to wear diapers for almost my first 2 months. Once i walked out on my own i was so happy and vowed to never again take my independence for granted
The 'end of the line' is a good place to be.
The first time I was in detox I felt so much shame. I barely dared to ask the nurses for help.
In Sweden women and men are not splitted. They eat and live together.
grimlund never feel shamed 👍🏻👌🏻💪🏻😚
i was in with men and woman too, it was a public system. the first time i said to my dad 'omg im NOT staying here' and he said 'hell yes u are' ughhhhh
I think that the shame goes hand in hand with the whole addiction thing. Especialy the first time you end up on detox. You realy feel like an alien but after a while you realize that there are plenty of people sitting in the same boat.
grimlund ςαι
Shit no shame,I hope you all are doing well!
Alcohol is a depressant it causes very high anxiety panic and confusion when you have drank too much but much more needs to be done to make people aware of this .
No, that's not right. They label it a depressant because it depresses your GABA system in your brain.
I am addicted to pain pills because of chronic pain. I found myself increasing my dose every day and my pain levels hadn't changed. Thats when I realised I wasn't taking them for physical pain anymore. I was just numbing myself from the rest of the world. A friend of mine said to start drinking as it helps withdrawal from opiates.
I said No way will I become alcohol dependent as well. I went to my Dr and spilled my guts to him. He has percribed me a combo of meds to help withdrawal symptoms and sent me to a psychiatrist and addiction counsellor. I am currently going through withdrawal but it's manageable and I am starting to feel human again 1 step at a time.
Now if I was addicted to alcohol I don't think I could get off it simply because it is way to accessible. It's EVERYWHERE!
My hat truly go's off to all that are struggling and yet trying to get themselves on track.
You're all the strongest people I know.
Please keep trying. We are all worth it.
❤
This is amazing I don’t have drinking issues but can imagine being addicted to drink and guess something bad led them to this this . Everybody needs help .It’s saves lives and yes it saves money for nhs but saving lives is what matters . Good luck to everyone
Nice words words Ryan all the very best to you allso , regards r.
I’m 21 beeen drinking since I was 12 going to detox today I’m so scared but I know it’ll be worth it
Best decison I’ve made in years
@Artez Conciquider I almost drank myself to death at 12 bc I thought it’d be fun to see how much I could drink before I got sick.. I guess u could say I was fookin crazy (and ignorant) haha sober 40 days now tho!
Been a month sober for me, no withdrawals or anything serious but just tired of the hangovers, night terrors, being broke after a binder, and this is embarrassing but always pissing myself lol so I feel you and you can do it 👍👍👍
So how was the first few days, and first week of u dnt mind answering
@@mikenewland6861 it was the hardest mentally just not wanting to be there but they gave me meds to help with the physical withdrawal which made it a LOT easier than when I had tried quitting at home myself which would make me sick. I literally just slept most of the time. I’m 110 days sober today going strong!! Going is one of the best decisions I’ve ever made
Currently up at 2 am with the deririum tremens night terrors and shaking time to quit not worth it
I wish you the absolutely best of luck. It's not easy and don't be too hard on yourself! It might feel hopeless and alone sometimes but you aren't and never forget it
@@caseydykes117 Thanks for such a kind reply Casey I am slowly getting the help my self needs not completely free yet but day by day! Appreciate the kindness from AUS :))
Do get medical help with this, withdrawal can be fatal. Hope you get sober
Best wishes
Hope you are doing a little better, everyday is progress brother, we've all got our demons - best of luck x
Thank you
Ive now been sober 16 years. God bless you all
How is it possible to drink 30 pints daily and not be obese? The amount of calories is insane.
I drink about 24 pints daily, but I’m 6’4” and don’t really eat, plus I walk all day so you can feel my ribs and collarbone, it’s your only intake after a while
People who havent been through hell with the drink & alcoholism, depression etc would say "bloody drunks" & think a place like this is a waste of tax payers money. But them people haven't experienced what the drink can do to people.
To everyone watching this, you are not alone!
I remember watching this when it was on tv a few years back. I tried to find out what happened to Derek, sadly it would appear he passed away in 2016. Alcohol is a terrible drug. RIP Derek. 😔
Addiction has a positive feedback loop system. like a microphone at a gig for example. The sound going into the microphone heads to the amp, the microphone then picks up the sound again and cycles round, getting louder until it is a complete mess. Similar to addiction you use to mask problems/pain in your life but the next day always comes round and if nothing changes you repeat the same cycle but the problem is getting slightly larger each day until it is out of control. Everything good about you is slightly dimmed each time and everything bad is amplified. Hope that makes sense and wish everyone well on their journey.
Woww. Speechless man. What a very well put reference with the audio System. This hit me as a musician. I know exactly how it works. I'm on day 3. Trying completely stop or just occasionally but with control. Gotta stay strong. Wish me luck. 🙏
I used to work in a blood transfusion lab - most of my major haemorrhage patients (~70%) were alcoholics, some as young as 22. Half of them couldn't be saved.
Am kenyan I lived in Birmingham England for 8yrs and the way Brits love their drinks it's out of this world
My mother died of a drug overdose in July. Before she passed I had been struggling with a demanding and difficult relationship that has acquired 7yrs wasted and 3 blessings. After she passed I have unfortunately found myself steadily drinking beer, or wine everyday. I am trying hard to stay afloat but it is hard. I am a strong women for me and my family but when it comes to dealing with stress I would JUST rather NOT. Pray for everyone who is distressed and needing help!! I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE!! 🙏💯💁🏽♀️❤️
Sending you so much love and positivity. You got this! X
R.i.p derek pilling you fought so hard to battle your demons but unfortunately succumbed to them 😔 drink is a taker & has now robbed you of what should have been a bright future for you .... you were one of the nicest fellas i was ever fortunate to meet 😪 taken to soon love yeah kidda ️xxx
Wow, I am very sorry to hear that. May he rest in peace.
Ninja manatee he passed away last year .. it's not for me to go into details
Yvonne Anderson see your a true friend sorry to hear he's gone proper sad x
Yvonne Anderson I'm so sorry to hear that, he seemed a really nice bloke, may he rest peacefully
He died?? Oh how awful :( Just when I thought he'd beaten it. He seemed to try so hard. RIP. May I ask how you know he died?
Bloody hell people..... Have a bit of sympathy👍🏽addiction is horrific, whether certain drugs or alcohol. It is hard either way to stop and unfortunately kills too many people. Addiction is a chronic disease and even having children can't stop them. Love to all and keep trying🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Happy Life amen! It’s hereditary too
I grew up witnessing the extreme ways in which alcohol can devastate individuals and societies-my family included, suffering from its violence, abuse, and neglect. Throughout my adult life, I have observed Britain's significant challenges with these issues. Being from Greenland, I can attest that the problems are similar; it’s heartbreaking to watch someone deteriorate. Previously, resources were scarce. Today, it's reassuring to know that institutions exist to support those in need. Now at 61, I have avoided the 'party that never ended,' a trap many of my friends fell into and recently died from. I've lost most of my friends to alcohol, violence, and suicide. Sitting here as the last man standing can be hard; I tried earnestly to help and understand those who were trapped. I've witnessed the grim reality firsthand when people take their own lives as a last resort to escape their torment. Remember, it’s not just the alcoholic who suffers-it’s everyone around them. Seek help, don’t be ashamed. There is hope beyond a life of turmoil.
Addiction is so very cruel and hard to control!
People don't realize how bad of a drug that alcohol is.
@@brettmitchell8014 alcohol together with benzodiazepines/barbiturates or other Gabaergic drugs are the only drugs that will actually kill you if you quit cold turkey, even if youre healthy.
Not even fentanyl does that(if youre healthy)
Its crazy
@@BigBodyBiggolo 👌
It's a tough journey and thank god for the NHS. I was hospitalised a cpl of times too many and they were amazing...... Although it was myself that finally said enough was enough and detoxed myself and have been sober 20mths. That may not seem alot but to me it's a lifetime, after drinking for 20yrs more or less everyday. I am really proud of myself and continue to thrive as a recovering alcoholic. It is a very important thing for people to know that it's hard, really hard especially if your support system is not that good. I look forward to each day now, not feel sick to my stomach knowing I'd woke up..... I wish nothing but the best for anyone dealing with this disease and look forward to march the 1st 2021 when I can say "I've been sober for 2yrs"..... Its the little things isn't it....X
Proud of you mat
Well done mate
My dads been taken over by alcohol, hes never been the same since it started. Hes now taken on smoking and god knows whats next..
Please..I want my dad back..
I am so sorry x
how is it now
Do you guys keep a patient monitor inside a detox room? Like for monitoring ECG, Blood Pressure, Oxygen Levels, and Respiratory Rate?
Peter Foster - the nurses come and take observations every 15 minutes on your arrival and the first few critical days.
Chopper Lyons that’s good!
What, are You shopping around?
Hope this is still open now during the lockdown to help people