How to Trick Out a Gaggia Classic Classic Pro Espresso Machine
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- Learn how to upgrade the Gaggia Classic or Classic Pro for better espresso. Covers group upgrades to the shower screen, gasket and holding plate (older Gaggia Classic models), bottomless portafilter, Baristapro precision filter baskets and commercial style manual steam wand for models prior to the Classic Pro.
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Caffewerks Silicone Group Gasket Orange 8mm height: www.wholelattelove.com/produc...
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IMS Nanotech Shower Screen: www.wholelattelove.com/produc...
Stainless Steel Shower Screen Holding Plate: www.wholelattelove.com/produc...
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I tricked out my Gaggia Classic pro with a bottomless Portafilter, Baristapro Precision Filter Basket 18 grams,
Caffewerks Silicone Group Gasket Orange and IMS Nanotech Shower Screen. It is amazing how four upgrades can improved the experience and quality of my espresso shots. I am now getting more consistent results.
Hi KV, That's awesome - thanks for sharing the feedback with your impressions and results!
Marc
🧐 📝 👌 🙏
i just bought 3/4 of those items from whole latte love site directly, any idea when screen might be available again ? thx
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I must say, the quality of your videos is really up there. Your attitude is also great. Keep up the solid work. The information is extremely valuable as well. You get it right...espresso lovers.
Hi Taylor, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
Mark, I could watch you for hours... looking forward to trying these out.
H Dr., Thanks for the kind comment - all nice upgrades! If you get into them be sure and watch my video on how to remove stubborn group components on Gaggia Classic Pro. Could make your life a whole latte easier! czcams.com/video/b-d0L_X_KjA/video.html
Marc
Another great video. I've just ordered a classic pro from the UK distributor based on your detailed informative videos. I like a bit of DIY so I'm hoping this will be the machine for me. I'm a complete novice when it comes to making espresso so I'm looking forward to the challenge and may even video my progress for my youtube channel. Keep up the good work and your enthusiasm for all things coffee!
Hi PH, Thanks for the comment and share your videos with us if you do post. If you need more help search out our other videos on the Classic on our channel - we have more than 35!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc. I'm working my way through them! 👍
Helpful video. I got the orange gasket and the cleaner. I’ve had the machine for a year now. I pull 2-3 shots per day and had not done any real maintenance on it. It’s very clean now!
Hi g, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
Hi Marc - I recently bought the Classic Pro from WLL with a Baratza Sette 270 grinder after having suffered through years of overly acidic, watery under-extractions on my Gaggia Brera and all I can say is wow, this machine and setup is absolutely fantastic, being able to dial in and really pull high quality, balanced, tasty shots is extremely satisfying. Looking forward to tinkering around more with it and making some of these upgrades!
Hi William, Congrats on your new machine! It's a little more work than the Brera but with a bit of effort you can pull excellent shots! We have a ton of Gaggia Classic videos on our channel like this one showing a technique to achieve pre-infusion: czcams.com/video/AoZuYaDq5yc/video.html and excellent support videos and articles here: support.wholelattelove.com/hc/en-us/sections/1500000384362-Gaggia-Classic-Pro
Marc
Yeah man. Me too. The amount of control you have over your brewing is insane.
Just got my Gaggia Classic Pro from you guys, and I love it!
Hey MF, Thanks for the comment. Happy to hear you are loving your Classic Pro. It is without question the best value in premium entry-level semi-auto espresso machines.
Marc
I have a classic from 2002 bought second hand. I owned it for 3 years and all i did was clean it and add rancilio steam wand. Finally got round to doing the OPV mod and changing it to 9 bar. IMO this is THE most important mod you can do. I didnt know what good espresso tasted like until i did this.
Hi SC, Thanks for the comment. I honestly do not think it's worth it. Not a concern for you with older machine, but that kind of mod voids on newer machine. As I've mentioned before, brew pressure only reaches above normal if grind size causes it to.
Marc
Hi Marc, I have a Classic Pro and I did all the upgrades you showed in this video! And I have to say it’s a must! It improves an already great machine 😊👍 I also changed the OPV to 9 bar. But i’m also thinking to fit a PID 😅😎 love your videos ❤️❤️❤️
Hey Sandy, Thanks for the love and sharing your opinion on the upgrades! Sounds like this video really hit home for you. As mentioned in the video I advise against the PID. Voids any remaining warranty and could cause problems. Fairly easy to surf temp with flushes and quick hits of steam on the Classic with some practice. On the OPV understand under normal extraction brew pressure is good. In static closed system (no flow out of the group) pressure is over 9 bar. Same as you'll get on most smaller vibration pump machines in order to provide a good flow rate. If grind size is right, internal pressure during an actual extraction never gets anywhere close to pressure measured in a static system.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for your advice. You are absolutely right about the OPV but without a pressure gauge it’s hard to really know. I think if Gaggia wants to win the “coffee lottery” they should make a gaggia classic with PID and pressure gauge! It’s the only reason why I sometimes look at other machines 😅
@@sandyd4271 When Rancilio upgraded the Silvia to PID, the price doubled, although they also went dual boiler. I am not sure that the basic Classic Pro design is strong enough to make this change worth the money.
Hell yeah! I've been waiting for a video like this hahaha. I've already added a lot of upgrades to my classic pro and it's been a huge help!
Hi TP, Thanks for the comment - glad to put out a video that's helpful!
Marc
Thank you so much for these exceptionally high-quality educational videos. I am one month into my Classic Evo Pro I purchased from WLL and I truly enjoy the amount of art involved in using these machines and in creating espresso.
Hey sw, Thanks for the comment and your patronage!
Marc
Thanks for the video. Have had my Gaggia Classic for 16 years and still going strong, but nice ideas for upgrades.
Thank you very much, you truthfully, simply and clearly explain the difficult moments.
Hi OM, Thanks for the comment - glad you think so!
Marc
Hi Marc, thanks for your video, I think I had watch this video for more than 5 times, and finally convince to upgrade to silicone gasket, I’m using Gaggia classic pro, and having frustration with the locking in the portafilter.
Hi MrA, The silicone gasket should improve ease of clock-in. The stock gasket is rather hard and takes some time to break in. Silicone is much softer. Be sure and get the orange 8mm gasket for your newer machine: www.wholelattelove.com/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8mm
Marc
So happy to have found you I have an older classic.purchased my machine maybe 20 years ago a 24k good plate version .could never get hang of it so it's been sitting on a shelf never getting used I still have the box in as new condition .could never stop the pot from leaking over the sides so I gave up .
Hi Nelly, We have a gold plated Classic here as well. Sounds like you need a new group gasket for yours.
Marc
I know WLL being a seller of this machine they can’t recommend any modifications. but, I did the dimmer mod and having that control has made My espresso so much better. highly recommend it to anyone thinking about doing it.
Thank you a lot ! I have the Gaggia evo pro, and after watching your video, I've just orded the nano 22g Basket, the shower plate and the gasket that you suggest in your video... your tips will really help me improoved my coffee shots 😊
Hi n, That's awesome! Enjoy your new accessories and thanks for the comment!
Marc
Marc makes the best vids, I watch them even when I’m not shopping. Thanks
Hey Jack, Glad you like them and thanks for the comment!
Marc
😃Marc! What can I say? First of all the company honored the price discount that occurred less than a week from my purchase. Then I tricked out the unit before first use. your videos are great. The first pull!? Wonderful! I use a local roaster and have been. This cup was so much better than my appliance pull. I can hardly wait to get the grind dialed in. A weekend project. I have been following you for years and now have entered a new world of coffee. Thank you.
Hey thom324! You're welcome. Thanks for following and sharing your experience with Whole Latte Love! Our staff of coffee lovers are so awesome. Passionate professionals helping people make the best espresso they can and enter a new world of coffee. Truly appreciate your comment and shared it with our staff. Happy Friday the weekend is almost here ☕️ 🎉
Marc
Ordered my Gaggia CP and Eureko Silenzio grinder on black Friday. Hopefully they are here soon 😀
Hi Joel, It's been a coup[le days since your comment. Hopefully you got the pair - nice one by the way and are enjoying!
Marc
There is no one better than Mark.... I just bought a Gaggia Classic pro and a Baratza Sette 30... now for some accessories. Watching Mark’s videos has given me confidence to make espresso at home. I ordered my Baratza Sette 30 on Friday and it is being delivered on Monday. Whole Latte Love’s responsiveness is insanely fast. My new go-to for all of my coffee needs ☕️☕️☕️
Hey Geri, Thanks for the comment - I need you to have a little talk with my wife ;)
Happy to hear I've helped you out! And there you go saying how quick we are to respond and I'm 3 days late to your comment. Guessing you've received your grinder by now hopefully it's working well for you. Be aware static can be an issue initially and in low humidity conditions. That gets better after the burrs get some oil on them from the coffee. If it continues stir your beans with a wet finger prior to grinding and that will control the static.
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks for the great tips!! Without your videos I wouldn’t have made these great purchases. I am kind of wishing I would have bought the Sette 270 instead of the Sette 30 because of the micro adjustment capabilities, however, I think I can work with it by adjusting the dose. Also, the problem with static is getting better with use. It really is a great machine. Thanks again. ☕️
Hmm? Thanks....great content.... had my Gaggia Classic for 20+ years.... 1 year ago upgraded ....now will upgrade with the bits You recommended!
5:45, my Classic original came with a stainless group head! That’s a win in my book, and the adjustable OPV makes it a budget baller
I'm kinda loving these machines. I'm definitely thinking of upgrading from my Breville. It's actually just a matter of when. When I do, I'll definitely make a couple of the upgrades too. Very cool. Thanks, Marc!
Hey Larry, You're welcome!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage It's so funny. Later the same day I wound up buying a Gaggia Classic Pro from WLL! Reading my comment now is funny! Obviously my mind was already made up. lol
@@musicmann1967 how do you like your machine? I just returned my Breville barista express and thinking of upgrading to this with the breville smart pro grinder :)
@@xxashley69 Hi Ashley. I like the Gaggia. It's a VERY manual machine though, just be aware of that. There is nothing at all that is just a flick of a switch or a button. You have to manually do everything, which was a bit different from my Breville that I had before. It makes really good shots though, so I'm happy. Also, re: the Breville Smart Grinder Pro.. There seems to be conflicting opinions about whether or not it's good for espresso. Just fyi.
What more can one say than thank you for a great and helpful video.
Hi EJ, You're very welcome and thanks for the kind comment!
Marc
Marc, you sold me ;) I just ordered the Gaggia Classic Pro with all the upgrades.
Hey Alex, Awesome - I'm sure you will enjoy your Classic Pro! we have more than 35 videos on the machine. Just Search our channel for Gaggia Classic.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you.
Just got my Gaggia Classic Pro in the mail this week!
enjoy! it’s a great machine. I hope you have a nice grinder as well! 👍
@@sandyd4271 yep been using my Baratza Virtuoso. I’ve been having difficulty removing the shower head screw to upgrade the group gasket.
Hi Jason, Check our support wiki for the Classic: wiki.wholelattelove.com/Gaggia_Classic/cleaning_and_maintenance
Look for the Group Head Cleaning video for tips on getting the screws and holding plate off.
Marc
me too! just got it last night :)
Thank you mark for another good video,wish one day i could visit your store!
Hi 2, Thanks for the comment! Since we do not have a brick and mortar store you can always visit us here: www.wholelattelove.com/
Marc
Definitely gonna buy my machine from you when I finnaly upgrade. Great video
Hi MB, Thanks for the kind comment!
Marc
Thanks Marc- Yeah- I thank you for taking the time to answer- it's much appreciated- I'm looking for a good machine- I dunno whether to get an entry level now, or take the plunge now and a prosumer- thats' the quandary at this point- I don't mind taking the time to dial in, working at getting a good cup- that would be fine- I don't mind shots being off a little bit here and there- i actually don't mind a cup of either bitter or acidic tasting if it's not totally horrendous. I will probably go with the classic pro- almost ready to go that route I think, but just wanna make sure that it will compete pretty well with prosumer- Again, the fact it can be overhauled is a huge plus- I think the more complicated ones with their electronics panels and lcd etc would be harder to overhaul if something went wrong in those lines-
Hi N, You are welcome!
Marc
the basket and gasket upgrade definitely changed a lot of the issues i was having with my portafilter not going in all the way and the basket made it so much easier to get out pucks!! if anything the basket is the best out of all :)
i wanna try the showerscreen but it's out of stock!
Hi Alex, Thanks for sharing your experience. The Cafewerks silicone gasket is much softer than the stock rubber gasket! Sorry the shower screen is out of stock - should have more soon!
Marc
Thanks Alex...so that's why every other day I have trouble getting the porterfilter in. Gasket too hard, need that silicone one.
I was looking for my first entry level machine
since long followed your videos on many topics and finally decided the classic pro
got a good deal in gaggia classic pro and looks like made a great choice 👌👍
Hey a, Thanks for the report on your machine choice and following our videos!
Marc
Do suggest me to get good creama in my shots I use 17 gms coffee grind in my portafilter and leveler
Utterly obliged for the advice!!
Hi Victor, You're welcome and thank you for the comment!
Marc
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Hi DH, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
Fantastic video, I did the gasket upgrade and got a Barista Pro Nanotech basket. It was pretty easy even for my non-mechanically inclined self. Biggest issue was the screw on the shower screen was pretty tight and I had to flip it over, factory may have tightened it a bit much. I want to get the nanotech shower screen as well, but it was out of stock and will be until May. I do have to complement Whole Latte Love big time on their shipping. I ordered early in the morning and it was out of the warehouse same day.
In terms of the upgrades I've done one shot with the new basket so far and really can taste a pretty nice quality bump already. May also get the bottomless some day.
Hi Robert, Thanks for the kind comment and report of your experience/result doing upgrades. I actually have a video showing how to remove stubborn group components: czcams.com/video/b-d0L_X_KjA/video.html
That screw being a PITA to remove is common. Not so much that it was over tightened. More likely accumulated deposits from use.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage very possible. I actually found a suggestion on Reddit to replace it with a similar size screw with a hex head instead of phillips.
I actually did reference your video when it was stuck.
Nice video! Thank you! Regards from Chile!
Hi KV, you are welcome - thanks for the comment!
Marc
I did the PID and OPV mods on the new classic. Highly recommended
Hi Idn where did you got your PID kit from? 😃
So did I, I agree
@@sandyd4271 Mine is from Auber Instruments.
@@walkerck Same.. Auber pre-infusion.
thanks 😊
Every time I see somebody working on a Classic I am glad to be happy owner of a Tebe ;-) same intestines, much better packaging...
Hi Martin, Not familiar with the Tebe or its intestines. Can you provide a link?
Marc
THANKS Great video as usual
Hi WG, Thanks For the comment - it's appreciated!
Marc
I bought the breville pro on last black friday and didn't like it , after a long research including your videos, I decided to get the gaggia classic pro with the eureka Mignon Specialita from you guys, to get a real espresso set up .
Hi AH, Thanks for sharing. The Mignon Specialita is a far better grinder than the BSGP - you will love it!
Marc
Just bought a Refurbished GCP from you guys - hoping it'll be here thursday. Very excited.
Hey David, Congrats! That's awesome - when refurbed GCPs come up they go fast!
Marc
Great video. Have a new classic pro and want to do the gasket, screen upgrade. Can’t move the screw holding the screen though! Tips to do so appreciated. Thanks.
Hi b, Thanks for the comment and question. They can be difficult. Be sure and use the proper size Phillips head screw driver so as not to damage the slots in the screw head. If you have a socket that accepts a Phillips head bit that can help you get more leverage. If that does not help try turning to tighten slightly before loosening. If you have a propane torch you can try some gentle heating. If still not there flip the machine upside down and apply a penetrating oil like WD40 to the screw and let it soak in for 20 minutes. If using the penetrating oil be sure and clean thoroughly with soap/water to remove before using the machine. Hope that helps!
Marc
Thanks for the speedy reply, Marc. I’ll give that all a go and hopefully in the right order! : .)
Great video. Like watching a surgeon work
Hi Gerard, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
Mark, thanks for all your great videos. Just one question, I have a new Gaggia Classic Pro (made 03/2021), so i have the stainless shower screen holding plate, but when i put my new IMS Shower Screen on, the water doesn't seem to flow as nicely/uniformly as the standard screen. Does this matter? I watched another video of yours (with the E61 screen install) and the flow from the IMS on that video looked better than the standard, but still wasn't perfectly uniform. So i guess i was wondering if the uniformity is necessary without it being under pressure? or is there any where i might have gone wrong? Everything is clean, the unit is brand new.
So one I wish this came out a few weeks earlier lol because I have a new classic and I thought the yellow was the right gasket from reviews and Q and A's on your site but yeah I was wrong it gets real tight before six o'clock more like nine o'clock. Fortunately I was able to figure out from the site, from a reviewer I think, that I didn't need to buy the SS group head because I already had one on my new machine so that's great.
Hi r, Thanks for the comment. Timing is everything! Great your machine came with the SS shower holding plate. Much nicer than the aluminum for heat retention, cleanliness and ease of fastener removal. Hang onto that yellow gasket as the machine will be ready for it at some point in years to come.
Marc
Omg!! I just had to come across this!.. now more freaking 💰, here we go!!
Hey Sam, The upgrades are worth it!
Marc
Another really nice video!
Hi MN, Thanks for the comment. Gotta ask is your name related to Apocalypse Now?
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Yes, very much so :P Brilliant movie.
thank you mark you have helped me a lot
Hi Fahad, You are welcome and thank you for the comment!
Marc
I highly disagree with not installing a PID on this machine, without it it’s very inconsistent. Also adjusting the OPV is an excellent upgrade to get better espressos.
singel boiler machines with this gaggia , has some inconsistent temperature readings, if you read the acutal temp coming out,it will be very inaccurate.
unless your PID mode bends laws of thermal mass then thats another talk.
I agree... although, after having a pid, I think it is possible to develop a reliable non pid technique
Basically, if you time how long it takes to go from the heating element on, to heating element off
Then you can calibrate when will be a good time to start brewing
Let’s say the heating element switches on at 180, and takes 30 seconds to switch off at 215
Then you can force the boiler to cool to switch on.... wait for 20 seconds.... and you will be at a good brew temp with heating element on
Anyway, if I had to go back to a non pid single boiler... this is what I would do
Cheeers
Hi Ardy, Thanks for sharing the technique.
Marc
Hi JS, Thanks for sharing your opinion. I've detailed my reasons for not going there in other comments on this video.
Marc
Dude if you have to install PID you shouldve opted for another machine that already has temp control, PID is way too complex for the intentional use of gaggia classic. If its that essential for the consumer / gaggia classic market, they wouldve made an option for PID version or at least upgraded so that all gaggia has PID.
Just bought a refurb from y'all. Looking forward to it
Hey TJ, Awesome and thanks for your patronage! When we have GCP refurbs they tend to go quick - good for you for picking one up!!! Be sure and bookmark our support site for the GCP. Lot's of great videos and articles for techniques, maintenance and DIY here: support.wholelattelove.com/hc/en-us/sections/1500000384362-Gaggia-Classic-Pro
Marc
excellent video. Very informative. it definitely makes it easier to go for one of this when you see this video. Any suggestions on coffee grinders that wont break your budget and would work well this machine? I would sincerely appreciate the help. thank you
Hi BS, Thanks for the kind comment and question. Not sure what your budget is but you def want a burr grinder and I recommend a machine grade build quality. The Eureka Mignon Facile is a good no frills option: www.wholelattelove.com/products/eureka-mignon-facile-espresso-grinder
Also the Bezzera BB005: www.wholelattelove.com/products/bezzera-bb005-automatic-grinder
There are cheaper burr grinders available but they use a lot of plastic in construction, lower power motors, less precise grind size adjustment and have smaller burrs which sacrifice grind quality. If budget is very limited the Capresso Infinity is an appliance grade compromise - not as capable as the machine grade grinders mentioned above: www.wholelattelove.com/products/capresso-infinity-plus-conical-burr-coffee-grinder-in-silver
Hope that helps!
Marc
I would of expected adjusting the over pressure valve on this guide as the pressure change can make a big difference and these machines come stock with quite a OPV setting.
I did the pressure mod in my late-model GPC. It just involves swapping out the spring. The kit comes with several to try. Easy-peasy mod.
Hi M, Thanks for the comment, I have detailed my reasoning in other comments on this video. Bottom line: static pressure does not equal brew pressure during an extraction which should be in range if grind size is dialed in.
Marc
Both my Gaggia machines (a baby and a Classic) are from 2001, and still going strong.
Hi Allison, Thanks for sharing. Perfect example of why I advise people who are at all serious about espresso avoid the plasticky pressurized basket appliance grade "espresso" makers. They will have nowhere near the longevity of a true serviceable machine like the Classic.
Marc
Great video!!!
Hey JD, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
Gaggia Classic Pro is the one I'm really interested in. Just trying to convince my wife that we need one. 😁 I have the Gaggia Brera right now. It's ok but I want to invest in a good semi-auto. Thanks for the informative video!
Hi Ron, You are welcome! That's the trick - convincing the better half!
Marc
Hi , I like your comments , you just get to the details that matter.
Could you please do one about Lelit Bianca - how you can use all features of it to achieve pallatable espresso and latte and how can you clean it ?
Best Regards
Hi DR, Thanks for the comment and request. Will do someday if/when I get one to play with.
Marc
Your video inspired me to purchase your refurbed Gaggia Classis Pro! Ordering upgrades from Whole Latte Love; silicone gasket & Baristapro precision filter basket!! Ive really interested in getting a bottomless filter, trying to match the portafilter handle to the wood handle on my Fellow Staag kettle .... Will a E16 port filter fit the Gaggia Classic Pro? Thanks so much for your videos and guidance!!
Hey Liz, Thanks for the comment. You got lucky - the Classic refurbs go quick and are in high demand. Hope are (or will be) enjoying the machine and upgrades. Unfortunately E61 portafilters will not fit in the Gaggia Classic Pro. We do not currently have a bottomless PF w/wood handle for the Classic. Working on getting one and hope to have soon. Currently we have this bottomless w/o wood: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-bottomless-portafilter
Marc
Another great video Marc. I have learnt so much. Got my classic a year or so ago and love it. Still working out a few bugs like sloppy pods and espresso coming down to fast. But I will conquer that. However under where the portafilter goes on…there are four screws that holds everything in to the frame, and I’m not sure why but every so often the two front screws fall out or almost fall out. The back ones stay tight but the front two don’t. What can that be from and is there something I can do to stop it from happening . Thanks for all your advice and help over the past year or two 🇨🇦☕️
Hi lyn, You're welcome for the help! I've never heard of those screws randomly falling out. I inquired with our tech department and neither have they. If the threads for the screws are stripped it's possible pump vibrations could work them loose over time. You could try a product like Loctite: www.loctiteproducts.com/en/know-how/build-things/threadlocker-red-or-blue-which-ones-right-for-you.html
Take out the offending screws, apply some Loctite to the threads and screw them back in securely. Hope that helps!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc….James and i talked about Loctite….ok awesome we will try that. Thanks so much for all the advice over the year or two.
@@lynsmith2698 My pleasure!
Love these vids. Searching for my first machine. So many great comments on the Classic Pro and theses upgrades are so simple. Why do I keep thinking that I need something better/more expensive like an Appartamento?
Hi PSW, The Gaggia Classic Pro is a great value. It's a single boiler machine so making a milk drink is more of a process than on a machine with a heat-exchange boiler which can brew and steam simultaneously.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you. Truly appreciate it.
Great video! Just ordered the 18 gr basket, shower screen and gasket. One question, to clean them is it ok to soak the basket and shower screen in water with Cafiza? Any issues damaging the nanotech coating?
Hi Sergio, Thanks for the kind comment and question. Yes, It's okay to soak in Cafiza. The out of the box rainbow finish may dull a little but basket retains non-stick properties. Avoid abrasive cleaning tools.
Marc
Y’all are really selling me on this machine. Just need to decide if I want to pull the trigger with the extras all at once.
Hey AW, No doubt about it the Gaggia Classic Pro is the best value in entry-level espresso if you want a true machine. Upgrades are nice!
Marc
Excellent!
Many thanks!
Marc
I think the two biggest improvements on the classic for me has been upgrading the steam wand and .....cleaning it. Have to get that cafiza through it every 2-4 weeks.
Hi AA, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
Nice video! OPV and PID mods are probably not covered much here due to warranty issue it can create. So I can understand Whole Latte Love position. But honestly, someone new to Gaggia should start by that. I see only positive opinions about PID and OPV mod is a no brainer.
Hi AN, Thanks for the comment and sharing your opinion. You are correct on the warranty issue. I've covered in detail my thoughts on the PID and OPV mods in response to other comments on the video. Bottom line: As others have stated in the comments the Gaggia Classic Pro produces excellent results out of the box without modifications. I understand there are hobbyist who enjoy tinkering. For those who do, I cannot recommend doing so but understand - just be aware of the risks being taken.
Marc
Hey Marc,
Just to make sure I followed, the shower holding plate is already the nicer stainless steel one on the pro. There is no reason to upgrade it, but the filter basket, bottomless portafilter, group gasket and shower screen are the upgrades you should perform?
Thanks for all the great videos you guys have done on this machine!
Hi Brandon, You are welcome for the videos! Yes, the newer Classic Pros all have the stainless holding plate. The other upgrades are not required but can extend capabilities of the machine. At some point you will have to replace the group gasket and you might as well go with the silicone: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/group-gaskets/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8mm
Also, bookmark our support sectiopn for the Gaggia Classic Pro. Lot's of videos and articles there specific to the machine: support.wholelattelove.com/hc/en-us/sections/1500000384362-Gaggia-Classic-Pro
Marc
Really love these kinds of videos and some of these mods are definitely going to be made to my classic pro! My Gaggia's steam wand drips (like they all do apparently) but it's also started to spurt out water when I'm pulling shots. I've used your troubleshooting guide on your site and have go through the process of back to back descales and whatnot without the problem being solved. Is there an o ring somewhere that might need replacing or does the whole steam valve need to be swapped? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hi JK, It may be time to replace the valve. Eventually they wear out. Here's a video showing how to do that: czcams.com/video/1G7S6CdPubs/video.html
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc! Is the disassembly/assembly pretty similar between the Classic and Classic Pro?
@@jokalhor5477 you’re welcome! Yes, essentially the same.
Marc
I'm upgrading to the IMS screen soon as I find one at a sensible price, the stock screen really does clog easily.
Hi AR, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
Hi Marc, I'm glad I found and subscribed to this Channel. I have 2 old Classics (20+ years, 1 for spares) I'll never part with. However I was thinking to upgrade to the new Pro, but if I can upgrade as per your video (with reasonable cost) I might end up keeping it. Could you advise how to get (if suitable) that "trick up kit group upgrade" (holding plate SS, 8.5 silicone gasket, shower screen nanotech. I'm in Australia and if you can Private IM with cost etc.. plus shipping if you ship to Aus.
Hi RS, Thanks for finding us and subscribing! 20+ years - that's fantastic and why I advise avoiding espresso appliances and going with true machines that can run for decades. Unfortunately we do not ship to AU :(. I do know the guys at Coffee Mio in Melbourne who are Gaggia dealers: www.coffeemio.com.au/equipments/ I'm not certain they would have those parts but could probably point you to someone who does.
Marc
Hi Marc, you can try at coffeeparts , they are in australia, I just order the silicone gasket today and the shower screen IMS, but not the nano one.
Hey Marc, just got the new silicone gasket but it still feels tight to clock in. I’ve only been using it with the new gasket for about a day or so but do you think it will break in?
Hey KJ, Did you get the orange or yellow? Yellow is .5mm thicker so if using on a newer machine it will be tight. If orange that's what you want for newer machine. It should break in a bit - but honestly not very much. Be sure the gasket is fully seated in receiving channel and that you filter basket is fully seated in your PF.
Marc
Great and helpful video! Is there any place to purchase a Gaggia classic bottomless portafilter with a wooden handle?
Hi NG, Thanks for the question. We have spouted Gaggia PF with wood handle and a bottomless without wood but no bottomless with wood handle at this time :( www.wholelattelove.com/collections/portafilters-and-filter-baskets?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Gaggia
Marc
Hi Marc, Thanks for the video. I have just ordered a E61 naked portafilter to you with my Classic. Do you recommend this or should I try to find the Gaggia bottomless one particularly?
Also, a lot of times, my puck gets stuck to the shower head after pulling a shot. I use 18gm and I get a 38/40ml output in 25-30 seconds, and in those shots too my puck gets stuck sometimes. Is there anything I can do to make sure it doesn't happen
Hi Kushal, Thanks for the question. Unfortunately, The E61 PF will not work with the Gaggia Classic as the lock in tabs have a different orientation. Here's the one to get: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-bottomless-portafilter
Puck sticking to shower screen may be caused by a coffee dose that's too big. 18g dose in the stock filter basket is borderline too much. If pulling shots and seeing an imprint of the shower screen your dose is too high. To correct decrease the dose and adjust grind finer. Or consider a larger 20g filter basket like this one: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket
Hope that helps!
Marc
Thanks Mark! I’m looking to buy a Gaggia Pro now that I’ve seen your reviews. I’m new to espresso making but want to get something quality. Also looking for a decent grinder that won’t break the bank... would the baratza settle 30 be a good choice? Thanks!!
Hi Glen, You are welcome! Gaggia Classic Pro is an excellent choice. The Sette 30 can work but it's limited a bit in extra precise control of grind size. Depends on how critical you are as to whether that's a problem. If using the Sette 30 and you find you need a slightly finer or coarser grind size in between the settings you can work around that by changing the dose weight a bit. Not a perfect solution, but works.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for the info! Now I'm second guessing it thinking I may go with the Bezzera Hobby!
This video popped up after I re-watched the "Gaggiuino Project" modification video for the Gaggia Classic (and Pro). If Gaggia would add this mod as a feature to their "Classic Pro," they would, as Emeril LaGasse would say, "has kicked it up a notch!" 😀 The author of the Gaggiuino software has made it clear there's to be no profit made from his work, but I'm sure the folks at Gaggia could develop code to do the same using the STM32 chip.
I'm waiting for a few more parts before I can do the modification to my Classic Pro. The "Gaggiuino" mod makes the other PID mods look pretty lame in comparison.
Its probably a patent things. Maybe also one of the reasons the guy emphasizes this is open source and he takes no money in any way.
@@sdtok527 I didn't mean to suggest they use this particular mod. I'd hope Gaggia could find a programmer to do something similar.
I'm wondering what the next Gaggiuino release will be like? The Nextion display is being dropped. It would be nice if they could eliminate the display completely and use an App or a webpage for control.
@@phillipzx3754 That is not what I am saying either, the gaggiuino project does not have patents. But at this very moment Decent espresso is being sued for the use of software in espresso machines. Searcg Marzocco integrated scale, they also were sued. The espresso machine industry is not in a healthy place unfortunately.
Hello! Thanks for the vid! I just installed the ims shower screen and I think that on the left side less water is going thru, is that normal? Also the stock group gasket is a little bit heavier than the new one with a little bit over 300g, compared with the ims one (ca 260g I think), is the ims still better?
Hi SS, Not unusual to have variations in water flow out of the shower screen. Could be a slight tilt, coffee residue, or surface tension of water. Heavier is not necessarily better for group gasket. Silicone gaskets do weight less, last longer and don't require stiff clock in like stock rubber gaskets.
Marc
This is too much of a coincidence. I literally was going to go type in gaggia upgrades and this was the first video on my CZcams feed before even using the search bar??
They’re spying on you.
Hi GB, The Google knows! Did you say it out loud in front of an Alexa? :)
Marc
Hey Marc! My wife got me the Baristapro 18 gram portafilter basket for my Classic pro. I've been using it for a few weeks now and I can't seem to get good shots like I did with the stock basket. I always used 17 grams of coffee but bumped up to 18 with the new basket, adjusted the depth of my leveler (higher and lower). It always seems bitter (I think it's bitter anyway). The shot pulls in a good time and looks like it's going to be good, but ends up sucking. Not sure what to do. I appreciate all videos you guys do, you guys are great!
Hey K, Thanks for the question. Precision baskets in most cases use a slightly finer grind than stock baskets for a similar extraction rate. But With a slightly higher dose you may have compensated for that. Most bitter flavors present at the end of an extraction so I would try cutting shots earlier to reduce bitter flavors. My colleague AJ has an excellent video on Salami shots which dissects when certain flavors present in an extraction: czcams.com/video/_yIpi5KPUys/video.html
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage awesome, thanks! I'll try it out this evening, much appreciated!
Hola,
Still loving my Gaggia Class Pro but have a couple questions. 1) Does the "blowout Tube work automatically when needed? 2) Sometimes the basket gets stuck when the handle is removed, how can I prevent this? Should I clean it out immediately after each use (I usually wait until used again). That's it. Out of five espresso machines I owned at home this Gaggia is by far the best. Gracia.
Hi Chef, Thanks for sharing your Classic love and the questions!
1. Yes. It should shoot out a bit of water at the end of an extraction automatically.
2. Best to knock used coffee out of basket immediately after use. Not uncommon for filter baskets to stick in the group if left tightly clocked in and the machine cools off. PFs should be left in the group when not in use. To avoid basket sticking clock in lightly. Also helps to keep the gasket, group and shower screen clean. And don't forget other maintenance like backflushing after every few dozen brew cycles.
Here's a video featuring a maintenance package for the Classic everything you need and basic maintenance advice: czcams.com/video/eT80QIcPcVc/video.html
Hope that helps!
Marc
Hi Mark, thank you for the video! When do you think you will be restocking the IMS Shower Screen for the Classic Pro?
Hi SM, WE expect more available ~12/10/20.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage perfect, thank you!
expect to have more in stock soon, @Marc ?
Hi Marc. I think I need some help. I thought I would not need it but now I definitely know that I do. I just bought from you a Gaggia Classic Pro, a Sette 30 grinder and 3 cases of my favorite Danesi decaf espresso coffee. I watched some of your youtube videos and if I got it right for a single shot espresso I am supposed to grind my coffee at around 7 for about 4 seconds. Using these settings I am able to get a decent cup of espresso ( Not enough cream on top) but only if I use the pressurized filter( the one with one hole). If I use the same settings using either one of the other two regular filters results are very bad. I am afraid that if I keep experimenting I will very soon need to order another 3 cases of coffee so could you please find me some settings for my grinder that you know would work for the Danesi decaff and tell me If I should keep using the pressurized filter or not? Just so you know I have used Danesi decaf all my life but always the pre-ground with excellent results and I always had LaPavoni coffee machines. This is my first experience with both Gaggia and a grinder. If you could help me I would appreciate it. Grazie, Umberto.
Hi Umberto, Thanks for your question and your patronage. If grinding fresh from whole beans you should not use the pressurized filter basket. Once you get your grind dialed in (see video link below) you will get far better results from the non-pressurized filter baskets! You are getting okay results from the pressurized filter basket as they are very forgiving of the grind size being not quite right. But with their forgiving nature comes a lower quality espresso. Not sure how you arrived at a setting of 7 on the grinder. Sounds a bit coarse to me and I'm guessing your shots are coming very fast. Problem is I cannot tell you what setting to use. That is dependent on variables particular to your extractions. Things like bean type, dose weight, tamping pressure/style and more play a role in getting to the proper grind size. If it's your first time grinding whole beans fresh I strongly suggest starting with the double basket until you get the hang of things. Single shots are more difficult to get right. Key to your success is being as consistent as possible with all variables other than grind size. So keep everything the same as you dial in except for grind size! All that and more is discussed in this video which takes you through the relatively simple process of dialing in grind size: czcams.com/video/jOY7D02n4Cw/video.html
Hope that helps!
Marc
Will all these upgraded parts fit the Gaggia Classic, or are some unique to the Classic Pro? Also, is there any advantage to the brass version of shower plate over the stainless steal version?
Hi Chad, Yes all parts fit the standard Gaggia Classic. IMO there's no advantage to the brass over stainless.
Marc
I guess I know what I'm doing tomorrow - finding out if the group is aluminum on my Classic Pro. Come to think of it, I don't think I ever installed the silicone gasket or the precision shower screen I ordered at the time. I looked for my review to see if you had any comments but it's gone. Specifically, the water tank is so dark I can't see the level. I've been wondering if Gaggia has a clear one as an upgrade.
Hey Cat, No clear tank for the Classic that I'm aware of.
Hi Mark, I updated my original (2015) GC with the (a) stainless steel plate, (b) silicone gasket, and (c) IMS nanotech shower screen. I also cleaned out the boiler using the steps from one of your earlier youtube videos. After taking these steps, my shots are not as thick as they used to be. I still get good crema, but they are noticeably "thinner" in composition (using the same coffee, grind size, etc.). I have tried varying the coffee (always fresh), grind size (Mazer Mini), and timing, and nothing seems to produce the thicker shots I used to get. Would any of the new parts--or something I may have during while cleaning the boiler--contribute to thinner shots? Any advice you might have would be appreciated. Thank you!
Hi AVI, I think it's highly unlikely your a, b or c upgrades on their own would cause thinner shots. Outside chance the stainless plate and boiler cleaning may have changed your temperature performance for the better. Perhaps the coffee you are using reacted to that.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you, Marc. I am also getting wetter pucks than normal. Would it be worth checking the pressure, or wouldn't pressure (too low or too high) cause wet pucks and/or thinner shots? Thanks again for your help! Chad
My classic purchased from u guys is awesome but the portafilter is a nightmare to get installed in the group head. I’m afraid I’m going to break the darn thing as I’m having to seriously yank on it just to get the lugs to slightly engage. Sometimes it sprays coffee everywhere when brewing.....have read it gets better over time but I am starting to get worried if it’s flawed. Any advice would be appreciated.
Hi PCS, Sorry you are having trouble clocking in. A couple of things which may help...
First, Check to make sure your group gasket is fully seated. The original black rubber gasket should be flush with the surrounding group. If not resting properly it can prevent full and proper clock-in.
Second, Be sure the group lock in area is free of any residual coffee or foreign objects. Coffee grounds accumulated there can prevent full clock in.
It's not unusual for clock-in to be rather stiff in initial use as the group gasket breaks in.
Hope that helps!
Marc
Great ideas thank you.. Is the GM 200 IM and GM 200 NT the same? Not sure if either shower screen will work on a classic pro.. thank you again!
Hey all the T's, You are welcome! Not sure exactly which filter baskets you are referring to but "NT" imprinted on baskets like on IMS Baristapro models indicates the basket has a Nanotech quartz coating. A nanoquartz finish inside the basket protects against corrosion, boosts longevity, and repels grinds, making for easy cleanup with a non-scratching cloth.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage oh gotcha.. i saw that the NT shower screen on your store was still out of stock so i was looking else where and i only GA 200 IM.. so im assuming thats not the nano tech . Do you have any idea when they will be back in stock?
So with the shower plate holder: stainless will hold more heat than aluminum, but aluminum will have more even heat distribution and will get to temp faster. I assume Gaggia chose aluminum on the older Classics (including mine) because it shortens the time to get to temp, but I do wonder if the more even heat distribution was also a consideration. Have you had trouble with the new stainless ones being less even temp-wise?
Hey Mark. Quick question. When pulling a shot, my espresso machine is shooting water out of the steam wand as well despite having the valve shut. What do you think could be the problem?
Hi KN, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to the Troubleshooting section of our Support wiki for the Gaggia Classic on leaks from the steam wand. Descaling the machine sometimes corrects the problems or the machine may need the steam valve replaced: wiki.wholelattelove.com/Gaggia_Classic/troubleshooting#Machine_Is_Leaking
Hope that helps. If valve needs replacement here's a link to the part: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ga-steamkit-classic-gaggia-classic-steam-valve-kit
Marc
How often should you be changing g out the group gasket? I upgraded to the silicon one but it’s about two years old.
Hi Mark, Thanks for sharing how long yours has been in the machine. The silicone gaskets do last longer than the stock hard rubber ones! If your PF is clocking in to 6 and no leaks then no reason to change. If over clocking, leaks or it just looks to be in poor shape then it's time.
Marc
Define older? I have precision basket and filter. Still love my classic pro. Is there a way to tell 8 or 8.5 for gasket? Ie sn or something
Hi b, Thanks for the question and sharing your love of the Classic Pro! If you are clocking in beyond the 6 position with a relatively new stock gasket then you might consider going with the 8.5 yellow Cafewerks gasket. But Since it's a Classic Pro I'm guessing it's not much more than a year or so old. If you've never replaced the gasket I'd go with the 8mm orange.Marc
Funny just cleaned out my grouphead this am then afterwards this video popped up for me. Definitely going to purchase a few of these items especially that gasket because even after a yr of using my machine it is still kinda tight to remove or turn at times. I feel it's just some of the grounds sneaking in there over time even though I do clean my unit very regularly. Thanks for this awesome video Marc! When do you guys anticipate on getting the screens back in stock?
Hi lmc, Wow, what a coincidence! Ypou are welcome for the video. We expect more shower screens to arrive ~2/15/21. They have been very popular!
Marc
Hi - I have a Gaggia Classic Pro. I noticed in your video the bottomless porta filter comes with a precision basket. My question is 1) do I go with that or 2) stick with the portafilter that comes with the machine and add a nanotech basket or 3) do I gain anything with bottomless + nanotech basket?
Hi Jose, Thanks for the question. Most people like the bottomless PF for checking their technique and for the beauty of watching the extraction take form. Using a bottomless, you'll know if your distribution and/or tamping technique are off. If it is you'll get blank areas and/or spurts from spots on the visible bottom of the filter basket. Be aware the spurts can be messy and require some extra cleanup - motivation to improve your technique! When done well bottomless shots are beautiful to watch - some call it espresso porn :). Also may be easier to see when it's time to stop the extraction based on the espresso drip blonding out. Hope that helps!
Marc
I bought the new classic pro machine so does that mean that I have the stainless steel shower screen holder like you said in the video?
Hi KB, Maybe. Easiest way is to find out is remove the shower screen holding plate and have a look. When clean the SS holding plate will be very shiny. Here's a video showing how to get the shower screen and other components of the group head removed: czcams.com/video/b-d0L_X_KjA/video.html
Marc
Would there be any advantage in exchanging the standard shower screen of a new machine, to the nanotech version, and how do you know when it's time to change the gasket... ?
Hey Pip, Thanks for the question. Advantages of changing out shower screen: more even distribution of brew water on puck surface and it's easier to clean/stays cleaner. Need for gasket change indicated by portafilter clocking in too far, leaks from around seal when extracting or notice current gasket is brittle requireing extra effort when clocking in to get a good seal.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for the helpful advice...
It doesn’t seem fair that Marc is sharing all the subtleties that it took us oldsters years and years to learn
Hi Ardy, Thanks for the comment. Know it's my pleasure to share knowledge!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage
Hey Marc... here is a tip that may be useful....
As you know, freshly ground espresso is fluffy, and so, if you grind it into the basket, you have a little mountain that needs to be carefully leveled
What I do now is to grind into a cup
After weighing... invert the cup on to the basket
Shake the basket with cup on top to level out coffee
But still, the fluffy coffee will be above the top of the basket
So I take the bottomless porta filter with cup still on top
and firmly tap it on and tap it down onto a towel on the counter
This semi compacts the espresso to a level below the top of the basket
Which makes it a bit easier to do final leveling and tamping
Anyway,, this technique works well for me
Thanks again to you and WLL
What are your thoughts on the brew pressure of this machine? I’m considering buying the classic pro but in researching it I see that it brews at 12-14 bar instead of 9-10?
Hi Steve, I’ve covered this in many responses but I’ll go again... if grind is dialed in properly you will not get those pressures. People are thinking a static pressure measurement is the same as pressure when pulling a shot. It’s not. When extracting, pressure is released. I’ve measured brew pressure at the group with a device which measures pressure while simulating an extraction. When set to release ~60ml of water in 25 seconds measured pressure in the group is ~9bar.
Marc
Anyone else hear the very vague “eery horror movie” sound effect at 5:14?? That caught me off guard lol
Hey P, Good ears! No idea what that sounds was
Marc
Any opinions on getting a GCP versus the Lelit PL41EM (without PID)? How important is that PID and gauge really for an espresso BEGINNER? can one just use the machine the way advised in videos?
Hi T, Thanks for the question. PID makes machine use more convenient but adds to cost. Without it, one must know their machine better and where it sits in its heating cycle prior to pulling a shot. That's very easy on the GCP and becomes second nature with a bit of use. Many machines have gauges and I use a lot that do. But, being totally honest I rarely pay any attention to a brew pressure gauge. Extraction timing gives you the same information.
Marc
this beign entry level, how does it compare to say breville one touch? or to a pro-sumer one? Will it hold it's own making delicious espressos seeings how it doesn't have a temperature regulator PID or whatever it is on it? Or will the lack thereof make the shots kinda hit or miss more often? Or will this machine be so close in consistency that it really won't matter being off a little here and there? Is the 'entry level' a whole latte better than appliance grade? You mention it can work for many years- thanks to be able to be overhauled fairly simply- that sounds like a huge plus in my book compared to more electronic lcd types-
I bought the Mr Coffeee Cafe Barista before actually checking out whether it was a real espresso machine or not- i shoulda done more homework first- not happy with the drinks from it- 10 gram basket- get out 80 grams of drink (Which works out to a bit over 3 ounces when i checked) - if i let it run automatically on double shot-
Anyways- thanks for the tons of videos- lots to look through- appreciate that you are taking the time and doing this for everyone-
Hey N, Thanks for the question you are welcome for the videos! We have exchanged messages a couple time as I recall.
Yes, entry-level machine like the Gaggia Classic Pro is far better than appliance grade products. They retain value while appliance grade products do not. Try and find a used Gaggia Classic right now and you see what I mean. As you move up in machine grade products and features like PID, HX or dual boiler a prosumer level machine becomes easier to use with better temperature consistency, no waiting for machine to generate steam, etc. Key with the Classic Pro is a standard commercial size and weight portafilter. You get far better temp stability than appliance products, real coffee doses right up to triple shots from 21grams, non-pressurized brewing. And yes, they are very serviceable with tons of how to videos to help you out. The Classic Pro can make excellent espresso on par with more expensive machines. It just takes more effort to get that. Will it be as consistent as more expensive prosumer level machines? No. But they're a great way to learn. You could stop there or decide to upgrade down the road. Hope that helps!
Marc
On the new classic pro do i need to change the group head to have a better shower screen as in ur video
Hi fk, Thanks for the question. You do not need to change out the shower screen holding plate for the shower screen upgrade.
Marc
Hi Marc, thanks for the great video! I have a Gaggia Classic that I purchased from you all back in May of this year and have been loving it. I just recently purchased a new gasket from you, but got the 8.5mm yellow version. From the video seems like I should have gotten the orange one. I still haven't installed it yet. Should I return and exchange it, or just stick with what I have? Thanks so much, Daniel
Hi Daniel, You are welcome and thank you for your patronage! If you use the 8.5mm yellow gasket you may not clock in quite to 6 o'clock in a newer machine. But it depends on how much use the machine has and how good you are about cleaning. Residual coffee grounds in the group area act as a mild abrasive. Constantly cranking in with grounds up there will accelerate wear. Up to you. Could return it or hang on to it for future use.
Marc
I've had my classic since 2004, I've just ordered the stainless steel shower holding plate from the Canadian website but I noticed it didn't list the steam wand upgrade. Can I get that from the Canadian site as well? Thanks Mark for this informative video
Hi DR, Love hearing from people like you with older Classics. Take good care of them and you can expect decades of service, upgrade possibilities and easy repairs. The steam wand upgrade is sold out at the moment but more are on the way. It is available for pre order if you call in: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/contact-us
Marc
Hi, how do you rate your new stainless holding plate? Worth doing?
@@lw2411 my old one needed replacing so I went ahead and did it. After 2 weeks of use, the gasket is an improvement over the old style(doesn't fight the holder and the seal is really good). The stainless steel shower holding plate is doing a fine job, can't tell if its improved the quality of the shot. This machine has always provided me with great shots.