How to knit Japanese short rows & how to make them invisible [in 4k]
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
- A step-by-step tutorial on knitting Japanese Short rows with a special alternative for neater results
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Japanese Short rows are a very neat and easy way to shape knitting. By using a stitch marker, I do feel that this method is especially suitable for beginners. However, there is quite some conflicting information out there on how to knit them. So, this video shows you the standard textbook method and one improved way I unvented in the process of doing some research for a sweater that I am currently knitting. This second version is so neat and invisible that I do feel it's perfect for shawls, raising the neckline and other similar projects where you can keep multiple stitches between each short row turn.
0:00 Japanese Short Rows Introduction (with swatches)
1:26 How to knit the improved version of Japanese Short Rows
9:33 How to knit Japanese Short Rows the traditional way
14:54 Comparison between the two methods
17:07 How to turn a heel using Japanese short rows
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I'm sitting with my first sweater (Riddari) as we speak, wanting to do short rows. And I'm only like 10 seconds into the video and have to ask myself: are you a magician? 😮 That. Looks. Amazing.
Also, thank you for making knitting so available. I have been wanting to be able to knit my entire life, but haven't been able to.
At the beginning of this year I found your channel, and I've been watching it day and night I feel like! 😅 But I'm already doing quite advanced stuff for a super-beginner thanks to you and digital media.
I'm also researching knitting history for the nordic countries a little bit and I have been able to learn, in only a few weeks, what people haven't been able to learn during their entire life time. I'm so grateful for that.
I also have autism and ADHD (AuDHD 😂) and if I get frustrated I tend to give up on things. But thanks to your generosity with your knowledge the frustration has been minimal and knitting is a true joy!
So thank you so much! You make a huge difference for a lot of people and I just wanted you to know that.
that's awesome!
Please keep in mind that if you would apply the first technique to a swater neck, you will have to resolve the short row stitches creates on the purl side, on the right side. (i sadly didn't show that part).
@@NimbleNeedles I started with a few stitches and then go wider and wider and solving the stitches I come across as I go. 😅 I don't know if that's correct, but I think it's working!
I might stumble upon a problem on the last row because how do I stop having to turn. I think I've been knitting for too many hours today. 😂 Can't think clearly.
EDIT: I think I get it now. The last row is different when you go wider and wider, and that's when I need to solve them from the different side than the tutorial.
Hi Norman, fellow male knitter here. You produce great & varied instructional videos which are a fantastic resource for all knitters from beginners to advanced, you should be very proud of yourself.
I've been an avid sock knitter for the past 40 years, always looking out for new techniques to improve the look of my projects, especially my wheelhouse, which are socks. I am very familiar with all forms of short rows and use different short row techniques (Japanese Short Rows, GSR's, Shadow Wraps/Twin Stitches, W&T's, etc), depending on the situation. Japanese short rows are one of my favourites, and I've experimented over the years with different JSR techniques. I'm very familiar with the 2 ways that you are demonstrating here, but there is a THIRD way that is very similar to the second technique you demonstrate in this video, but looks a lot neater and invisible.
This third technique is identical to your second apart from one thing, do not work the first stitch after turning, just before placing your stitch marker. Instead, slip it like you do in your first technique & then place the marker on the working yarn, it makes all the difference. Also, a little tip regarding the 'resolving' on the purl side: (on the second and this third technique) rather than picking up the loop off the marker & SSP, just purl up to the gap, slip the next stitch after the gap (purlwise) to the right needle, THEN pull up the loop on the stitch marker & place on the right needle as well, insert the left needle into these 2 stitches (purlwise) & P2tog. Same as SSP but a lot easier to work. The way you would resolve in the first technique would be similar, but just purl up to the gap, pull up the loop from the stitch marker & place on the right needle, insert left needle purlwise into these two stitches & P2tog. Just alternatives to consider. Keep up your brilliant work, you are a true hero of the knitting world!
yes.thanks for that.
i know that you can work the SSP differently/easier. However, I finally arrived at the conclusion that if I stick to what at least some people already know it might be easier to remember.
I like that idea, because SSP😅 😮💨
Just as Paul describes it is exactly what I do as well and I find it so much neater too. Cool :)
I agree. Norman is a knitting hero. He is so clear with explanations.
Thank you Norman! I'm so happy now that you kindly introduced to my country's Short Rows🥲✨When I was a teenager, the Japanese knitting books were very difficult, so I surprised a lot from overseas's practical knitting. Since I learned those technique, knitting has become even more fun. However, I think these Japanese Short Rows and JIS style knitting patterns are wonderful magic. I want everyone around the world who watches this video to knit more beautiful heels and darts! 🇯🇵🧶💕
I am so happy to find out that you and I have same interests towards Japanese knitting methods, I was taught by my mother in Taiwan with the knitting style of Japanese with easy follow graph and symbols that represent knitting stitches, it’s way much easier for lace patterns. I have been knitting for over 50 years, the Japanese knitting method still my favorite. ❤
It’s like you created your own version. Just call them “Norman short rows”
well, some portion of it maybe. But I personally resent personal names in knitting techniques. They might be memorable but they will be confusing to future generations.
@@NimbleNeedles That was a compliment. Thank you Norman.
It would help those of us who are novices to knitting to have an explanation of why a functional stitches like the Japanese Short Rows are used. I would also like to see a video about how you manipulate the lead yarn onto the needle when doing a stitch. Your method requires less movement of the wrist and I think would be less fatiguing. Your videos are excellent. I'm glad I stumbled onto your channel.
you can find out more about the basics of continental knitting here: czcams.com/video/zLSaApeG-vY/video.html
This certainly is no technique to learn it.
short rows are used for sock heels, sweater necks, or simply to add color.
I actually knit my japanese style shortrows as a combination of the two techniques you're showing. I slip the turning stitch and place a marker. But when resolving the short row, instead of slipping the yarn that has the marker on it on the left needle before knitting the turning stitch, i knit the turning stitch first and slip the yarn on afterwards to knit it together with the following stitch (like you're showing in the traditional textbook method). I feel it closes the gap even better. On the wrong side, I do the same but knit an SSP as you described. It works particularly well for back neck shaping in sweaters knit in the round where german short rows give me a less than ideal result when resolving the last short row in the first actual round.
OMG What wizardry is this???!?!? THANKS!!
heh. well it really surprised me that the result would be that neat!
Thank you so much for all that you always do. You are magnificent, you are a Master of a Master. I am so grateful to learn from you. You are the very BEST, of a knitting instructor. ❤️🥰😘💕🇵🇷🇺🇸🙋🏽♀️
Wow, thank you for thtese kind words
Awesome 👍🏾, I want to learn this..got German Short row ❤
those are actually my favorite - but maybe I am a bit biased lol :P
but this could be my new second favorite ^^
I love Japanese short rows, but I knew that I'd still learn something new watching your video. Thank you.
I'm so glad!
Thank you Norman! My sleeve struggles are over
I came across Nimble Needles today when searching the mass consciousness for images of a certain cascading stitch I saw( in a blurry image😉) and wanted to replicate. So impressed with your website and world mission. You are making the world a better place with your beautiful mind, Thank You Norman for being you and sharing your inspiring skills, as they are many ❣ The multi-platform approach you have is very informative. I found the perfect place to send my friends who want to learn the craft. They always ask after I give them a sweater or winter warmies, or something. I like to crochet summer dresses and halter tops as well, those are a big hit. Very impressed with your work and will be enjoying in the future. 🙏
thank you for the lovely feedback! hope you found an answer for your blurry image stitch problem :)
Thanks for the explanation! Demystifying it so well.
Glad it was helpful!
Genius!!!! Thank you for your hard work to help us knit better 💪🏻💕
That is much neater than usual short rows.
Could you give a slower and clearer demonstration of how to “purl through back loop”?
Here you go: nimble-needles.com/stitches/how-to-p2tog-tbl-knitting/
your knitting tutorials and tips are the best on youtube! Thank you :-)
Wow, thank you!
I just heard about Japanese Short Rows last month. I haven't tried them yet. Thank you for always providing great tutorials and pros and cons.
my pleasure. And definitely give them a go. I like them a lot :)
This is so interesting, Norman, I'll try it next time I need to do Short Rows!
SSP in Portuguese technique is maybe easier than in Continental too :)
possibly, yes!
I love your knitting engineering classes. Your teaching style is great, always easily understandable. I've never heard of Japanese short rows, but I think I'm going to try them if I will make something with short rows. Or at least make a swatch to see if I understood correctly. And your tutorial for German short row heel helped me so much today, I had to frog it 3 times because I made mistakes, but now I understand what I did wrong, thanks to your blogpost
Thank you for showthe ssp. I knit Portuguese from the non public side so technically I purl lol. This is an excellent decrease for my socks. Also huge thanks for teaching me to pick up heel flap side stitches with a crochet hook❤❤
I don't just like this tutorial, I love it. Saving for future reference as I'm past the short row section of the sweater I'm currently knitting 😅
You are so welcome!
Thank you. Very seamless. From Washington state USA
You are so welcome (from Vienna, Austria
Thank you for this video! It's so much easier to do than the book I borrowed from my friend.
Hi Norman. Fascinating video! You certainly covered Japanese Short Rows thoroughly! I really like the first way you showed us as well as your thoughts on how and when to use the other ways as well. Thank you for another amazing tutorial. Have a wonderful week!❤
Thank you Norman, cheers from Denmark 🇩🇰
greetings back from Austria
Thank you for your clear explanation.
my pleasure :)
Hola Norman, gracias por enseñarnos a tejer y compartir tantos tutoriales, me encanta tu canal, a pesar que hablo y entiendo poco inglés, hablas y explicas tan claro y con las imágenes es como si hablara inglés de toda la vida. Un abrazo desde El Hierro, Canarias ❤🧶🐈❤️😘😘
how wonderful! And always remember, I always add closed captions in English. You should be able to let YT auto-translate them for you!
@@NimbleNeedles 🤗🥰😘😘
Puedo poner subtitulos en español, pero así aprendo inglés contigo, thanks a lot Norman. ❤
I love all your research and swatching, thanks !
Always learn so much from your videos!
Thank you Norman💝👌
Great tutorial and you do show us so well!!!!!!!
Love your videos ❤️🤩
Another brilliant innovation! Thank you, Norman!
let's stick to the term "unventing". I wouldn't claim having invented it
Those look so neat! And easy to do.
Thanks for the explanation.
Thanks Norman, great video
I love the idea of using sittch markers to help twist stitches. They might help my broken brain with other stitches.
❤ your work, Norman!
Thank you! That is awesome!
Thanks, this looks amazing.
Glad you like it! And it really does, right?
Amazing...as always...thank you Norman
my pleasure, mary!
Excellent!
Thank you, Norman, for demonstrating this method and your modification. Another tool. I love having options for different applications.
Very nice - thank you!!
as always, my pleasure
Thank you for this video. Now i feel like i will be able to tackle the Sycamore sweater from petite knit. You are a wonderful teacher. Thanks again 😊
Just wow!
Thank you so much Norman! I’ve been struggling so much with short rows and how they look, and have been searching for a new technique to try!
This was fun! I love your unvented technique and my knit along with Norman (and try to catch up) sample turned out so pretty. I really liked the purl side part. It seemed so easy. Thank you again. ❤
glad you were able to replicate it. and yeah, the purl side is a bit neater than the knit side. But hey. I mean..one could even mix it with other short row techniques, right? why would it have to be the same on both sides?
You already have my vote however, this is really a top class demonstration as well as explanation so, I would vote for your expertise and helpfulness any time. Thanks for this amazing tweak.
Oh my thank you I like this short row!! Very simple not necessarily easy.
no..not necessarily easy right. But I mean..i like the results! but for socks I probably wouldn't bothe r:P
Oh, that is beautifully invisible! Thank you 😊
Thanks
No problem. thank you for supporting my work!
My father taught myself and five sisters and one brother how to knit when we were very young 5yrs old. I am now 73yrs and enjoying watching your videos and tutorials. You do a wonderful job of teaching so many stitches and techniques that I haven't learnt before, I have learnt so much and will continue to learn from you. I have recommended watching your tutorials to my daughter who has found her knitting spirit, I'm sure she will find them helpful and interesting.
Interessting, I've never learned the basic japanese version I've always used the first one, but three years ago I've found the German short rows and I think the result is the same, only I do not have to use and remove a marker. Since then I actually have completly forgotton about it.
yes, the result is technically the same. HOwever, depending on your knitting style and tension, there may still be noticeable difference is the stitch definition.
Vielen Dank. Was für eine geniale Anleitung. Gruß Ute
Danke für das Lob!
In my opinion the original way is used exactly because they add a decorative line. I love them just the way they are. Not everything needs to be invisible. Naturally everyone makes their own way.
sure, that's why I present options :)
I've recently discovered your videos and have picked up some good tips. Regarding SR's I'm working on a sweater with SRs for shoulder shaping (followed with 3-needle BO). I've tried German SR, Shadow Wraps and now Japanese SR. All 3 look awful with very visible SRs. I'm using Wollmeise DK 100% merino wool so it's not that. I've knitted SRs for years with various weight yarns and never had this problem. I usually use GSRs but it didn't work this time. I've given up trying to make the shoulders look good on this sweater but I'll experiment with these JSRs with other yarns.
Well, the wollmeise yarn has a very high twist and that is likely the culprit
@@NimbleNeedles Oh my goodness! When I woke up today, I was thinking about my sweater and that's exactly the thought that popped into my head long before I saw your reply. Wow....
Never underestimate quantum entanglement! ;) Thank you Norman. I won't give up on JSRs just yet and will try it with a different yarn in the future 😊
Btw, your tips for Left leaning dec. are brilliant. I used the complicated one on a bottom up raglan and it turned out gorgeous! You're a gift to the knitting community.
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Hi Norman, thank you for a great video lesson! Because I usually use german short rows for the sweater, do you think I can use the Japanese method for a sweater? Maybe you could make a video teaching us, please! 😉My german short rows show the holes where I knit the two stitches together
I am currently working on a sweater and I published this tutorial first so knitters will have it as a reference when the sweater tutorial comes out
@@NimbleNeedles that's great! I am going to wait for your tutorial before I start my new sweater!!!! 🤩
Klasse🎉Danke für diese Alternative, meine Wende oder Wickelmaschen sind leider oft zu erkennen. Diese werde ich auf jeden Fall in mein Repertoire aufnehmen.😊👍🧶
bitte bitte. Find die super..ich mein, nicht für jedes Projekt aber für pullis oder so top!
Thank you for the tutorial. I tried this method and I found it’s truly invisible and neat!!👍 How do you resolve the last short rows in the round?
I guess that depends. but basically the one requires a left-leaning decrease and the other a right-leaning decrease. and depending on which side you knit across it's eother k2tog/p2tog or ssk/ ssp
I’m working on the back yoke of a sweater(top-down), I’ve finished short rows knitting and started regular knitting in the round. Now I have to ‘knit’ the last unworked stitch created on the purl side and I’ve tried ssk and k2tog but they didn’t work.😭 Is there something I’m missing?
@@user-bj6gz9fy7o maybe. The strand you have to knit together is the same as seen from the wrong side...so it's on the other side of the stitch when seen from the right side.
If you watch my latest youtube video on how to knit a sweater, I show you how to do that.
In hindsight I should have included it in this video :(
Hmm I don't know where I would use this technique🤔 maybe some sort of rolling increase in a neckline/ collar that you want to be invisible.
Have you knit a project using this technique? I'd be interested to see the finished work to better visualize how to best use this. Because let's be real, nobody wants to SSP constantly😅
I appreciate the cultural diversity, and as a self proclaimed knitting nerd, it's fun to see and much easier than trying to slog through a book to understand. Thanks Norman!❤
Yes. I just recently used it to shape the neckline of a sweater. Video will be released soon
what kinda material yarn do u use i like this material .is it acrylic or other??
Cotton
This reminded me of Jo March knitting new heels into professor Bhaer's socks.
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Hi norman.
i work short rows shadow wrap in garter stitch applying your improved method for short rows shadow wrap for garter stitch.
I would like to work japanese short rows.
In this video you worked japanese short rows in stockinette.
My question is : can your improved method here in this video be applied in garter stitch?
sure...but I cannot tell you if it looks better. YOu'd really have to knit a swatch here (that's what I would have to do myself)
Ok i will try
Slip-slip-purl is just wizardry - what *topologically* is going on? I had to do it once in a tiny project and my brain hurts remembering it
well, through slipping and knitting it through the back loop, you are essentially knitting a mini cable. You are twisting the two stitches so the right stitch (as seen from the front side) is laying on top of the decrease
@@NimbleNeedles Thank you, that's really helpful! Mini cables!
I think I would only use this if a pattern called for it.
oh really? Why so? don't oyu like the results or do you think it's a bit too anoying with the stitch markers?
The end result is like German short rows, but this method looks more confusing and not time saving. ETA for clarity because OP misunderstood: this is not a jab at any particular culture.
Maybe. But please allow for other knitters and cultures to have different preferences ❤️
It’s effectively a German short row
Yep the technique are a big related like a bachwardloop increase and M1R
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nobody forces you to watch :)
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