+Jeroen Tel Jeroen, this tune is one I still hum as I'm going about my day. It feels so progressive, when I'm going somewhere, I'm singing this song. :-)
+Highway Guy By manipulating the SID chip registers... that's all I can really say. (Oh... and understanding exactly what they do). :-) I guess you mean how they change so dramatically... most of that is due to using the filters and ring modulation.
+Jeroen Tel Listening back on the classics makes me appreciate your preview of the new remix even more. I can't thank you enough for what you've created!
Remember kids, this is almost 40 year old hardware you are hearing. Got to be honest, I never played these games, but we had them both. I would just load them up to listen to these tones and wounder "How the hell does this sound so full when it is only 3 sound channels." This sounds amazing! Whom ever sequenced this, my 10 year old self thanks you!!!
Jeroen is a wizard. Especially when talking about SID tunes. Rolf is a hero. One who keeps these masterpieces up on the Internet. Eighties computer game music is timeless. Never aging. The SID chip outperformed every other player in the 80s computer industry. Even the Nintendo's 2A03 with DPCM! Look at the first letters :)
+uriituw Agreed, these and the in-game music for Eliminator. I never tire of listening to them! Thanks Jeroen! Edit... Any chance of doing the In-game track from Eliminator? That would be awesome!! :)
Even though i have been born many years after C64.i still find the tunes composed for it and other computers of its age charming, suitable for many situations and just generally awesome! Just saying, who hasn't heard of C64 Orchestra yet, give them a listen!
I was loading Cybernoid II tape just to listen to the track. In order to listen to all of it, I had to stop the tape and press play again. C64 was failing to load the game but music was keep on playing till the end... No more words to say for this masterpiece. The BEST SID ever... Thank you Jeroen for inspiring a whole generation.
Few things bring me as much joy as listening to C64 music, paired with an excellent oscilloscope visualization. Having to make more with less (3 channels, 1 MHz processor, etc.) translated into soundtracks that had to be evocative, and that created the world these games lived in. One of the more magical aspects of these games is their soundtrack, which I see as their soul, and the life-force that caused these games to come to life in the player's imagination. Thanks Rolf for these great visualizations!
I don't even know what to say, and I'm not one who's easily lost for words. But this music is just OUT OF THIS WORLD! Mind-altering insanity! Unparallelled.
I feel so lucky to be born in the early age of the 8bit era, when ZX Spectrum and C64 ruled the roost. Like many others we became engineers inspired by these early pioneers who pushed the envelope in those early days. Chiptunes are the soundtrack of our youth.
I forgot to turn on my speakers, but I still recognized the song by the soundwaves.. That's a sign of some characteristic Jeroen Tel musical magic happening :)
This is a great 'two-fer' upload and really showcases JT's brilliance . Both tracks have a lot of emotive ebb & flow. The first has a more soulful feel & the second is more 'all guns blazing' and heroic'. I'm not sure if Jeroen intended that, but listening to them back to back evokes a kind of 'you win some, you lose some/ heads or tails' feel. Thank you for uploading 👍
The sort of inspirational music that makes you feel that you can rip trees out of the ground with your bare hands, or, run through walls. Great to psyche yourself up too. Awesome.
@@JeroenTel That is the impressive part about it, if it takes XM remakes 9 channels to replicate it that says a lot about the power of both the sid chip and the power of your composition given you managed to do it in 3 times less channels on the original hardware.
I went on a 1 week holiday with my family in 1997 taking barges around the canals near Coventry/Birmingham.. but during the entire experience these tunes were playing non-stop in my bio-brain :o
I did ask a friend of mine to tape Cybernoid 1 soundtrack in 1988 and i was listening to it in my car, it was THAT good, and i already had an Amiga to say! (but coming from a spectrum 48k)
We need a series of "Rob Hubbard reacts to..." videos which seems to be the current CZcams trend at the moment (not entirely Rob based, you understand.) Calling Chris Abbot!
I like both but I prefer the first more. The lead ascends with a tone that makes me feel unwell for some reason (it made me tear in one occasion). It felt dramatic, desperate, like a hopeless person crying for help.
It's funny, for Cybernoid 1 I prefer Dave Roger's version, but for Cybernoid 2, I prefer Jeroen Tel's version, even though both versions for both 1 and 2 are amazing.
I love the Dave Rogers versions too (though c64 versions are hard to beat). The ZX Spectrum versions get overlooked though, especially for remix/covers. I did find this rare gem though. Hope you do too. czcams.com/video/gQC2zFyohyo/video.html
Wow. Odd optical illusion here. Something abouy the bottom line in relation to the video frame tricks my eyes into defocusing and then it looks like that line is recessed into the screen. Bizarre. I think I've seen too many magic eye puzzles. XD
I like both of the Cybernoid tunes, but I think that the Cybernoid I is about 5% superior than Cybernoid II ;) Which is the best tune, Cybernoid I or II ?
+Émilie-Renée Beaumont I think he just needed more space for the bassline and moved drums to channel one at one point. Sometimes the channel arrangement has to be changed for modulation reasons as well, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
Due to filter layers and some other controls, sometimes you have to move channels. There was an oscillator or some other setting that would stack depending on which channel it was acting on and you had to avoid it.
Zou eens iemand moeten aankaarten om een documentaire te maken over dit soort mensen zoals Jeroen, Charles Deenen, Bjerregaard enzovoort. Iets op Netflix of iets dergelijks. Zoals je tegenwoordig vaker ziet over retrogaming.
@@JeroenTel - I think it's already up, and it's both versions! ZXS 148k: czcams.com/video/DWkGNnWTwIU/video.html C64: czcams.com/video/xEdgFJ-ZNoA/video.html Btw, how are you always in every video with your name in it? Are you just constantly checking when someone uploads a video about your music? xD
Question for +Jeroen Tel - why did you swap the instruments around between channels so much in Cybernoid 1? Boredom? Or was there a technical reason for it?
@@turrican4d599 These YT videos are software emulations of the C64 chip. The sound of this game on an actual C64 is much grittier. Some people prefer it. I find that most c64 have bad filters that hardly work. The software emulations have perfectly clean filters.
I'm of the opinion that both of these tracks sound better at 1.20x (NTSC speed), though I'm a bit biased here growing up with these games on a NTSC C64 DTV plug-n-play.
cox77: I don’t know. 2 of my school mates had Amstrads and they ALMOST held their own in the sonic department. Their argument was that their machines had better graphics.
This one, not so much. More of a long guitar solo over background music. If there were more orchestration and variety, maybe. Variations on a theme is important so the song is more memorable. The second one was better.
Awesome! :-) Thanks for the upload Rolf! :-)
+Jeroen Tel
Thanks for the music! :)
+Jeroen Tel Jeroen, this tune is one I still hum as I'm going about my day. It feels so progressive, when I'm going somewhere, I'm singing this song. :-)
+Jeroen Tel Blimey, it's Jeroen Tel. Here, have my upvote.
+Highway Guy By manipulating the SID chip registers... that's all I can really say. (Oh... and understanding exactly what they do). :-)
I guess you mean how they change so dramatically... most of that is due to using the filters and ring modulation.
+Jeroen Tel Listening back on the classics makes me appreciate your preview of the new remix even more. I can't thank you enough for what you've created!
Remember kids, this is almost 40 year old hardware you are hearing. Got to be honest, I never played these games, but we had them both. I would just load them up to listen to these tones and wounder "How the hell does this sound so full when it is only 3 sound channels." This sounds amazing! Whom ever sequenced this, my 10 year old self thanks you!!!
It was me who composed / sequenced this and I'm proud you would load up the game(s) just to listen to the music ! 👀🌟👍
Making music with only 3 channels is very impressive, now imagine with only 1 channel XD
@@imwakkod9391 Done that many times to reserve channels for sound effects (weapons / explosions and such). 👀
@@JeroenTel the legend himself :0. I love your C64 music. This one has to be my favorite!
@@imwakkod9391 here it is: czcams.com/video/RtJWCG_tsII/video.html
Jeroen is a wizard.
Especially when talking about SID tunes.
Rolf is a hero.
One who keeps these masterpieces up on the Internet.
Eighties computer game music is timeless.
Never aging.
The SID chip outperformed every other player in the 80s computer industry.
Even the Nintendo's 2A03 with DPCM!
Look at the first letters :)
Just for convenience:
6:45 is Cybernoid 2.
thx
Limit: There are only 3 hardware channels!
Jeroen: Okay then, I'll put drums and the bassline into the same channel.
These are the two best songs on the Commodore 64-if not in all of electronic music.
Jeroen Tel is pure genius!
+uriituw (Im now officially humbled)...
+uriituw Agreed, these and the in-game music for Eliminator. I never tire of listening to them! Thanks Jeroen!
Edit... Any chance of doing the In-game track from Eliminator? That would be awesome!! :)
I agree. Never heard a longer synth solo that was composed, not improvised.
Sanxion #1 but close
Even though i have been born many years after C64.i still find the tunes composed for it and other computers of its age charming, suitable for many situations and just generally awesome! Just saying, who hasn't heard of C64 Orchestra yet, give them a listen!
Get a second hand one. I was born after the C64 as well but I needed to play with the real deal... also watch the Ultimate Commodore 64 talk
I've never heard about the C64 orchestra. Where can I find their songs?
I love C64 songs too, and orchestral versions sound interesting.
I was loading Cybernoid II tape just to listen to the track.
In order to listen to all of it, I had to stop the tape and press play again. C64 was failing to load the game but music was keep on playing till the end...
No more words to say for this masterpiece. The BEST SID ever...
Thank you Jeroen for inspiring a whole generation.
Now 30 years later, the kids who figured out that you could pause the cassette during load were the ones that grew up to become hackers no? 😄
@@cbrunnkvist I hacked... I did! =D
Stopped the tape at 3:02 on the Zzap demo tape 😄
Jeroen is a genius! I think i have heard this song more than any song in the world and it NEVER gets old.
Few things bring me as much joy as listening to C64 music, paired with an excellent oscilloscope visualization.
Having to make more with less (3 channels, 1 MHz processor, etc.) translated into soundtracks that had to be evocative, and that created the world these games lived in.
One of the more magical aspects of these games is their soundtrack, which I see as their soul, and the life-force that caused these games to come to life in the player's imagination.
Thanks Rolf for these great visualizations!
Cybernoid II: sid mastery - at its finest. The exchanging of things between each channel and the filtering is amazing.
Merci!
Thank you Jeroen for all these great memories !
I don't even know what to say, and I'm not one who's easily lost for words. But this music is just OUT OF THIS WORLD! Mind-altering insanity! Unparallelled.
+knasbollicus (humbled) Thank you!
Cybernoid II - so uplifting and cool. Thanks Jeroen for the composition and Rolf for the scope view which just adds another dimension.
This made my jaw fall down in 1987 - drum was incredible for that time!
Still keep coming back to this one. Such good memories. 9.18 onwards is where it gets sublime for me.
I love how I can hum along to this perfectly just by watching it, without any volume. :-)
I feel so lucky to be born in the early age of the 8bit era, when ZX Spectrum and C64 ruled the roost. Like many others we became engineers inspired by these early pioneers who pushed the envelope in those early days. Chiptunes are the soundtrack of our youth.
I forgot to turn on my speakers, but I still recognized the song by the soundwaves.. That's a sign of some characteristic Jeroen Tel musical magic happening :)
Jeroen Tel was the Tim Follin of C64 games... the mythical deity who makes awesome music
Tim Follin did C64 music himself
This is a great 'two-fer' upload and really showcases JT's brilliance . Both tracks have a lot of emotive ebb & flow.
The first has a more soulful feel & the second is more 'all guns blazing' and heroic'. I'm not sure if Jeroen intended that, but listening to them back to back evokes a kind of 'you win some, you lose some/ heads or tails' feel.
Thank you for uploading 👍
One of the best c64 soundtrack
THE most mesmerising waveforms I've seen on any visualisation. Truly hypnotic and still JT's finest composition IMHO.
Thanks, man! =)
The sort of inspirational music that makes you feel that you can rip trees out of the ground with your bare hands, or, run through walls. Great to psyche yourself up too. Awesome.
Best c64 tune. Always good when someone pushes the hell out of the old soundchips
Cybernoid 2- Even after all these years, still sounds like an 8 channel track.
Moises Sanchez Found a remake in .XM format. They used 9 channels.
no it doesent lmao
@@Henk717 Maybe the remake, but this is a 3 channel SID tune. =D
@@JeroenTel That is the impressive part about it, if it takes XM remakes 9 channels to replicate it that says a lot about the power of both the sid chip and the power of your composition given you managed to do it in 3 times less channels on the original hardware.
@@JeroenTel Had you ever heard of Eddie Van Halen when you wrote this? Elements of Cybernoid II remind me a lot of the style of Eruption.
One of the sexiest base lines I've ever heard, and I'm a James Jamerson fan.
The official hymn of the home-computing 80s
Einfach unwiderstehliche Klassiker !!!
I LOVE THESE SOME MUCH!!!
I also appretiate the seizure that the main instrument had in 12:28
still, what a legend.
Goodness gracious those waves o.o
The bass and drums in this one are so simple yet so nice.
Génial ! Génial ! de voir ainsi la musique.
Thanks to the people who made it possible
Спасибо автору, с удовольствием поностальгировал по Commodore C64
I went on a 1 week holiday with my family in 1997 taking barges around the canals near Coventry/Birmingham.. but during the entire experience these tunes were playing non-stop in my bio-brain :o
Thanks brings back memories. from what I can remember the game was very difficult but worth loading for the sound track alone !
Every part of this is mesmerizing.
I remember first time i heard this in 1987 on a friend C64 my jaw fall to the floor!
Composed when Jeroen was still 14 or 15! He is a true genius on the C64... (iirc born in 1972)
I did ask a friend of mine to tape Cybernoid 1 soundtrack in 1988 and i was listening to it in my car, it was THAT good, and i already had an Amiga to say! (but coming from a spectrum 48k)
Stunning tunes.
Thank you it's glorious!
Subscribed! Awesome channel!
Fantastic tunes
Top 5 C64 tunes for me. Up there with Sanxion and Turrican 2 on Amiga
Absolute class.
Exciting tune.
Amazing.
pure magic
3:03 is heaven.
9:48 My favorite part of Cybernoid 2.
unbelievable nice :)
great music
Cryng here (nostalgia)😊
yeah pure perfection cybernoid 2
oscilloscope view is hypnothic
Personal favourite part 3:34. Superb.
New Favorite
C64 Music needs a comeback - it's own Genre of Music
That slow Synthesizer sound is hypnotic to watch
Nice song and video! Btw, where do the visuals came from? Looking for something like that to see multitracks on the DAW. It's awesome!
I listened to this on the "Tel Tracks 2" Demo by TWA..
Damn, I can never ignore lower finetune in Cybernoid 2 bassline ;) I'm doomed :(
from 9:49 is my favourite part
Pretty impressive for a machine that ran on a one megahertz clock and "only" 64 K bytes of RAM.
it just screams the 80’s
We need a series of "Rob Hubbard reacts to..." videos which seems to be the current CZcams trend at the moment (not entirely Rob based, you understand.) Calling Chris Abbot!
Amazing music with only 3 channel
I like both but I prefer the first more. The lead ascends with a tone that makes me feel unwell for some reason (it made me tear in one occasion). It felt dramatic, desperate, like a hopeless person crying for help.
Could you play music that requires the new SID and show it in split view? In one window played by the new, in the 2nd by the old model?
It's funny, for Cybernoid 1 I prefer Dave Roger's version, but for Cybernoid 2, I prefer Jeroen Tel's version, even though both versions for both 1 and 2 are amazing.
I love the Dave Rogers versions too (though c64 versions are hard to beat). The ZX Spectrum versions get overlooked though, especially for remix/covers. I did find this rare gem though. Hope you do too.
czcams.com/video/gQC2zFyohyo/video.html
I love to use this song as reference when writing music. I pretty much rip off this song but it often ends up becoming something completely different.
Also I'd love to see Parallax!
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
3:03 Replay Button Irgnore
what filters were used on the second channel at 10:52
Wow. Odd optical illusion here. Something abouy the bottom line in relation to the video frame tricks my eyes into defocusing and then it looks like that line is recessed into the screen. Bizarre.
I think I've seen too many magic eye puzzles. XD
that actually happens to me too :D it's like there is more to the screen that just the 2d image :D
Retro Cyberpunk, old school.
|s there some term for the almost-square wave shape (with both the overshoot and the slant) that's used in the bottom track?
Chris Hennick pulse wave which is having it's pulse width modulated (PWM)
Could you make one for Tintin on the Moon?
Jeroen Tel, what kind of slng would you make if you had dual SID chips?
I'm just commenting quick on this one video of Jeroen's music where has hasn't commented ye.... oh wait, he did.
How do you go about making these?
I like both of the Cybernoid tunes, but I think that the Cybernoid I is about 5% superior than Cybernoid II ;)
Which is the best tune, Cybernoid I or II ?
i've heard cybernoid II somewhere, but i dont know where
I really prefer Cybernoid I over II :) One of the best tunes ever!
I totally agree. There's really some sort of epicness in that track!
So do I.
Also, you must get likes.
I also prefer the gameplay in the first game as well
I almost agree but its like choosing who your favourite child is 😁
Cybernoid 1's music is good but Cybernoid II is just amazing and sounds like a 6 channel tune
that was kind of interesting where the channel arrangement kind of switched, I wonder why he did that?
Émilie Beaumont In cybernoid 1, that is
+Émilie-Renée Beaumont I think he just needed more space for the bassline and moved drums to channel one at one point. Sometimes the channel arrangement has to be changed for modulation reasons as well, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
Due to filter layers and some other controls, sometimes you have to move channels. There was an oscillator or some other setting that would stack depending on which channel it was acting on and you had to avoid it.
1.25x speed for the C64 Plug and Play version.
Zou eens iemand moeten aankaarten om een documentaire te maken over dit soort mensen zoals Jeroen, Charles Deenen, Bjerregaard enzovoort. Iets op Netflix of iets dergelijks. Zoals je tegenwoordig vaker ziet over retrogaming.
my fav: 1:32
I wonder how "LED storm" would look like ...
Would love to see that, too! =)
@@JeroenTel - I think it's already up, and it's both versions!
ZXS 148k: czcams.com/video/DWkGNnWTwIU/video.html
C64: czcams.com/video/xEdgFJ-ZNoA/video.html
Btw, how are you always in every video with your name in it? Are you just constantly checking when someone uploads a video about your music? xD
Question for +Jeroen Tel - why did you swap the instruments around between channels so much in Cybernoid 1? Boredom? Or was there a technical reason for it?
Probably because of the order of the instruments he starts working on, I do this too sometimes.
Love the 9:47 moment with noice
Well, this video finally proves what I've known all along. It's witchcraft! :-)
I wish the filters on real SIDs worked this well...
???
@@turrican4d599 These YT videos are software emulations of the C64 chip. The sound of this game on an actual C64 is much grittier. Some people prefer it. I find that most c64 have bad filters that hardly work. The software emulations have perfectly clean filters.
I'm of the opinion that both of these tracks sound better at 1.20x (NTSC speed), though I'm a bit biased here growing up with these games on a NTSC C64 DTV plug-n-play.
The game sucked and the sound kicked and is still kicking. Jeroen Tel is one of my heroes for lifetime.
5 dislikes from ZX and CPC fanboys ;)
cox77: I don’t know. 2 of my school mates had Amstrads and they ALMOST held their own in the sonic department. Their argument was that their machines had better graphics.
the version for cpc and zx have poorly animated sprites and a game window with the size of a postage stamp ;)
The sixth is from millennial whose idea of "good" music is Taylor Swift
I am an NES fan
I don’t care what everybody says, for me it’s still Cybernoid 1 > Cybernoid 2
So f........................gggggggggggggggggg gggoooooooooooooodddddddddddddddddd !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This one, not so much. More of a long guitar solo over background music. If there were more orchestration and variety, maybe. Variations on a theme is important so the song is more memorable. The second one was better.
I REALLY VERY DISAGREE!!!
*Jeroen Tel would like to know your location.*
It's a disco track. Those are very repetitive.