What do you think of the updated controller on the Rad Power Bikes RadWagon 4? Worth it? Support Ebike Escape when purchasing from Rad Power Bikes: radpowerbikes.pxf.io/1rmzzD (affiliate link)
Great video. Would be cool if Bolton offered an old school turbo button. So you could keep the bike at say 500 or 750 watts and hit the turbo for a short blast of extra power. Gimmicky.. Yes but would be cool.
Maybe someone can answer this, I want to get a bigger controller for my fat tire bike but it is not red power but it's still a 750 motor every time I see these videos about the Bolton upgrade it's always on a rad power bike why wouldn't this just work on any fat tire bike with a 750 W motor.. ? Or can it? 🤷♂
On the new Radwagon, who is the manufacture of the motor and what is its rating. On the 2018 Radwagon that I did the controller upgrade on I found that pumping excessive wattage into the 500 watt motor that they claim to be 750 but that’s just the peek rating and false adwertising, does not yield much extra performance other than possibly burning out the motor and using up extra battery with no real gain. I hear a wine I don’t like form the motor, the battery life goes down as I’m pumping useless wattage into the motor. So I’m curious what type and model motor is on the new wagon. I do notice a bit better of the line and a more responsive motor, but I have to change the settings to make sure I don’t kill the motor and overheat and trip another battery... yup, on a hill I hit over 1000 watts and lost all power. Had to swap battery amd by the time I got home the original battery reset. So I’m assuming it’s BMS said I was asking for too much.
From my understanding they are still the Bafang motors. Most equate it with the 500 watt motors from Bafang and they peak at 750 watt. Unfortunately, there is no standard across the industry about how the motors are advertised on bikes. I think fewer people tended to upgrade the 2018 RadWagon and the RadCity models with the direct drive motors so there isn't as much information out there on longevity.
Trying to find the list of recommended settings for the controller- having issues with the PAS picking up movement on the bike itself - any tips would be greatly appreciated! This is my daily commuter and I have a lot of hills - would be nice to get there and back again "just" a tad quicker :)
Isn't there a way to take off the speed limiter so you can have more top speed? If you have more watts and more power you should be able to get more top speed . I will just drain the battery faster
How is the upgrade holding up? Any plans of upgrading the motor to true 750W? It would be interesting to see results. I just upgraded my radmini 4 with Bolton controller and bafang 750w, and contemplating upgrading the radwagon 4 as well.
So far so good! My brother set the settings to max out PAS 5 at about 1100 watts just to be on the safe side. No plans to upgrade to the 750 watt simply because he doesn't really need it.
Hey, is the throttle still maximum power even when in the lower speed settings or in 0 speed setting? So how it is with the stock controller? I got the egg rider control and it only allowed me to get max speed out of my throttle when in speed setting 5 so I sent it back.
You could change that in the settings for egg rider. I find it a bit too complicated for me, and i dont like egg rider's PAS system, so i put my stock display back. Although i think egg rider is great when it comes to settings and customisation, just gotta learn how to do it, and i dont wanna risk it on my new bike, rather after a year or so.. we will see.
Got BB upgrade one year ago....Not water proof, Only 17amp rating (35 peek)....Cheep china junk in my opinion. Think about washing the bike with a plastic bag over the controller.....nnnooooop.
1500W means Class-3 ebike. Might as well buy an electric motorcycle if all you want to do is play in traffic for 15 miles at least they are built for it. These infomercials designed to inspire people to foolishly spend their money on inferior products for your monetary benefit are ridiculous. Good luck on the money hunt. I have to go wash my hands.
The Rad (even upgraded) will pass as a Class 2. That means you can ride anywhere a pedal bike can go. Sidewalks, State Parks and any road with no restrictions, no license, no need to insure, no gas, no oil, no smell and (almost) no noise. A decent e-bike starts at about $1300.....plus, these can be ridden by everyone...from grade schools kids to retired Gram and Gramps.
@@goobfilmcast4239 Depending on local ebike regulations. As far as Rad bikes... if you think any of them are "decent" ebike then I guess I just wanted more. Stay safe.
What do you think of the updated controller on the Rad Power Bikes RadWagon 4? Worth it? Support Ebike Escape when purchasing from Rad Power Bikes: radpowerbikes.pxf.io/1rmzzD (affiliate link)
hahah, you could have made the video 13 mins shorter and just posted your wife's reaction. I'm sold.
Ha I'll be sure to let her know that
Great video. Would be cool if Bolton offered an old school turbo button. So you could keep the bike at say 500 or 750 watts and hit the turbo for a short blast of extra power. Gimmicky.. Yes but would be cool.
That would be cool!
Actually that would be perfect for when you really need the juice.
Or even a limiter option
That's how they should be designed in the first place for the models advertised to carry people in the back, or with dual motors.
very satisfied with this product
Post back later what was the ideal setting you guys found for riding with a passenger
Maybe someone can answer this, I want to get a bigger controller for my fat tire bike but it is not red power but it's still a 750 motor every time I see these videos about the Bolton upgrade it's always on a rad power bike why wouldn't this just work on any fat tire bike with a 750 W motor.. ? Or can it? 🤷♂
Good value for the price
On the new Radwagon, who is the manufacture of the motor and what is its rating. On the 2018 Radwagon that I did the controller upgrade on I found that pumping excessive wattage into the 500 watt motor that they claim to be 750 but that’s just the peek rating and false adwertising, does not yield much extra performance other than possibly burning out the motor and using up extra battery with no real gain. I hear a wine I don’t like form the motor, the battery life goes down as I’m pumping useless wattage into the motor. So I’m curious what type and model motor is on the new wagon. I do notice a bit better of the line and a more responsive motor, but I have to change the settings to make sure I don’t kill the motor and overheat and trip another battery... yup, on a hill I hit over 1000 watts and lost all power. Had to swap battery amd by the time I got home the original battery reset. So I’m assuming it’s BMS said I was asking for too much.
From my understanding they are still the Bafang motors. Most equate it with the 500 watt motors from Bafang and they peak at 750 watt. Unfortunately, there is no standard across the industry about how the motors are advertised on bikes. I think fewer people tended to upgrade the 2018 RadWagon and the RadCity models with the direct drive motors so there isn't as much information out there on longevity.
Trying to find the list of recommended settings for the controller- having issues with the PAS picking up movement on the bike itself - any tips would be greatly appreciated! This is my daily commuter and I have a lot of hills - would be nice to get there and back again "just" a tad quicker :)
How does the temp affect the performance? Is it usually just distance? Because it looks cold there.
Definitely lowers range a bit and you don't want to ride it in too cold of conditions. And yes, it was pretty cold this day. Thanks for watching!
Where I can get the helmet with the visor. It looks cool an warm.
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Isn't there a way to take off the speed limiter so you can have more top speed? If you have more watts and more power you should be able to get more top speed . I will just drain the battery faster
I am not certain but I believe this has to do with how the motors are geared. They can only spin so fast.
Were you able to use your original speedometer/display with the updated controller?
We used the new display. I believe you have to but you can verify on the forum radowners.com
Pretty sure you need to use the new one?
Are you guys upgrading your brakes now that you have that much more power?
No plans to at the moment.
How is the upgrade holding up? Any plans of upgrading the motor to true 750W? It would be interesting to see results. I just upgraded my radmini 4 with Bolton controller and bafang 750w, and contemplating upgrading the radwagon 4 as well.
So far so good! My brother set the settings to max out PAS 5 at about 1100 watts just to be on the safe side. No plans to upgrade to the 750 watt simply because he doesn't really need it.
@@EbikeEscape Is that the C14 setting? What does he have it set at? Thanks for an awesome vid!
@@armytribe8471 Not sure, shoot me an email and I can email you his settings ryan @ ebikeescape
Here is our video on the settings: czcams.com/video/fsbcY91alf0/video.html
Hey, is the throttle still maximum power even when in the lower speed settings or in 0 speed setting? So how it is with the stock controller? I got the egg rider control and it only allowed me to get max speed out of my throttle when in speed setting 5 so I sent it back.
You could change that in the settings for egg rider. I find it a bit too complicated for me, and i dont like egg rider's PAS system, so i put my stock display back. Although i think egg rider is great when it comes to settings and customisation, just gotta learn how to do it, and i dont wanna risk it on my new bike, rather after a year or so.. we will see.
I think it is but you could double-check on the Rad Owners forum.
Do you offer a 750w motor for the radrunner single speed?
I personally don't sell them but check out the forum to learn more about upgrading: radowners.com
Who made the board for you?
It was made in house here at Ebike Escape. Simple cut and stained plywood.
@@EbikeEscape Do you have the dimensions of the board?
What are your controller settings?
Shoot me an email Ryan @ Ebikeescape.com
Got BB upgrade one year ago....Not water proof, Only 17amp rating (35 peek)....Cheep china junk in my opinion.
Think about washing the bike with a plastic bag over the controller.....nnnooooop.
I'm not aware of any ebike company that claims their components are waterproof.
@@EbikeEscape rad bike does, says suitable for seattle weather
1500W means Class-3 ebike. Might as well buy an electric motorcycle if all you want to do is play in traffic for 15 miles at least they are built for it. These infomercials designed to inspire people to foolishly spend their money on inferior products for your monetary benefit are ridiculous. Good luck on the money hunt. I have to go wash my hands.
The Rad (even upgraded) will pass as a Class 2. That means you can ride anywhere a pedal bike can go. Sidewalks, State Parks and any road with no restrictions, no license, no need to insure, no gas, no oil, no smell and (almost) no noise. A decent e-bike starts at about $1300.....plus, these can be ridden by everyone...from grade schools kids to retired Gram and Gramps.
@@goobfilmcast4239 Depending on local ebike regulations. As far as Rad bikes... if you think any of them are "decent" ebike then I guess I just wanted more. Stay safe.
@@brianbassett4379 Motor cycle has weight while ebike has less and it can go in any where like bikes ( no shet)
@@fbyi2940 Unintelligible nonsense... up your dosage.
@@brianbassett4379 yes it's true, fancy typical yuppie sporty motorbike won't make it to off-road as bikes, you have less weight and 7 gears