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I almost got ARRESTED for Flying this Drone - Did you know this law?
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- čas přidán 15. 01. 2024
- I got arrested for flying my DJI mini 3 Pro, How did this happen? Well let me tell you every country has different laws, and some may surprise you.
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Hi, im from Germany and that’s one of the most German thing I’ve ever heard.
But honestly I find it kind of stupid that they first arrested you without even knowing the reason, and only found a reason in retrospect
Yep very German but they were relatively understanding I guess.
European drone regulations say clearly that you are never allowed to fly any drones over assemblies of people in open category, all the drones under 250g are included as well! Apparently the only way to be able to do that in Europe is flying the drone in the certified category, actually the question is why the polizei didn't know that? anyway great shot!! it must worth a lot for you, especially for the story it tells, maybe you should frame it in your office to always remember to keep your eyes open! thank you for sharing this!
yeah i was about to say that, is clearly stated u cant fly over big gatherings where people cant possibly move to run. You r fine to fly over random single people on the street
hey, can you please send a link for this law, or point me to where to look about this restriction?
@@DCTassadar Looks like it isn’t allowed to post links here, try to search this: “easa drone open category”, official Easa website should be on the first results
How does it work if not flying over them and recording from a distance? Curious as I want to film some fireworks but the same rule applies in Canada and you cannot fly over events or demonstrations with out a permit, however I think I can from 1-2km away go up and film from a distance and juts not fly directly over the area at all
In the US, the purpose of the mission would be considered " commercial " (it does not have to actually make any money - simply intended to possibly make money). As the intent is commercial, the drone
, regardless of size/weight, has to be registered with the FAA and the pilot in command (PIC) has to have Part 107 certification (a comprehensive test is involved to become certificated).
It is so true if you tell them you doing it for money you just lost.
In Europe we don't differentiate based on the purpose of the flight. Commercial, recreational, same same
@@olabergvall3154 It's true in general, but some countries (e.g Croatia) distinguishes the purposes and there might be also difference in the required insurance.
Certified *
@@olabergvall3154we in europe have some laws as well for commercial use. But these are like for some other recreational groups connected with MORE stuff you have to look out for, but on the flipside you can fly in more spaces and get a valid reason to get an approval for some limited zones like Cities depending on the purpose.
It's an important warning for everyone who flies a drone. On a technical point, I don't think you were 'arrested' so much as 'detained' for questioning
You are right, I just want to warn other people so they don't make the same mistake as me.
Imagine the battles you have to go through as an FPV pilot. Like me.
Anytime I go anywhere with one of the drones I IMMEDIATELY draw attention to myself just getting into the air. The props scream lol!!!!
Most people are cool, and I try to fly places where there’s absolutely nobody around. But you never know.
DJI marketing these drones as sub250 gave so many people the wrong idea. Regardless, people should be doing their own research and understanding the drone laws before flying.
I agree although in this case Its not stated online about the difference between demonstrations or parades, bit of a niche grey area there, but now I know and hopefully other people can learn from my mistakes
A lot of youtubers are still telling their audiences that drones up to 250gr don't need to be registered...
@@hayabusaTravels yup… not good
@@hayabusaTravels They say it because it's true! The vast majority of us drone fliers are recreational, and in the US at least, means the sub 250g drones, like the DJI Mini series, do not have to be registered or broadcast rid. It's not the DJI marketing or other CZcamsrs that is giving some people the wrong idea. If you are flying commercially, different story, different rules.
@@Sonymoviemasters Well there is a T.R.U.S.T. Test that is required by law and is totally free to take and offers a basic education into drones to help make people a little safer before they go fly their drones on their 1st maiden voyage.
If you take the part 7 test and get a commercial license, you will learn the rules. In the USA it is the same. You can't fly over any crowd without special permission.
This is exactly why I like my drone to have a long and stable range and fly out of the line of sight. Do your thing and fly back fast, wrap and and get lost
Ninja moves! Best drone evasive maneuver👍😂 fly low then pop up take photos/ videos, then fly out in erratic circles to confuse them,, always plan ahead on your escape route😂reason why i got the newer mini 4 pro for signal range in urban areas..🫡
Especially with an fpv with very quick changes in direction or fast dives behind something
@@amando96 a powerful ebike is great for a quick get away too, nip down a path, across a field, through the woods, 52mph mine does and its quick, just another law to break cos it aint legal to have a 4000watt ebike here either but hey if your going rouge might as well go all in
@@Loz348 If it's illegal, how can they be sold?
@@tinof5829 i built it, took a bafang BBSHD 1500w motor and imported a 5000w controller from USA cos this motor can easily handle 4000w
The key is always to stay polite with any enforcement officers. They could be sometimes cocky, but they are actually nice if you stay polite and take them seriously. I was asked a couple of times to bring down my drone so we could discuss the situation with police officers in Canada and it turned out I was legal and OK to fly where I was. Now, if I had been impolite, it would’ve probably turned against me, but I stayed polite and cooperative.
also if you are flying for commercial purpose you have to register your drone even if it's less than 250g here in Australia
I got my license now as I've also got the Air 3 😁 some videos on that soon
You need to register it if it is less than 250g and has a camera ,you can fly closer than 50 m to people but also flying over a crowed is illegal .
Once you have your 107 doesn't matter if the drone is below .249g or not. Every drone has to be registered and registered separately as a 107 drone pilot and even doing a T.R.U.S.T. test. even if you're just flying as a recreational pilot.
When you are brand new to drones. I totally get your probably not going to know anything whatsoever regarding MOA's, Restricted, Class A-G airspace, weather conditions, reading a chart, weight distribution, manual aircraft near by and making money with a drone and insurance etc.
I am sorry you had a bad starting experience when you had no intension of doing wrong. It is honestly nuts. Upon all that stuff I listed above and now all the conditions you are also required to have R.I.D. and when it isn't a requirement.
Glad you shared your experience and in hopes other people might run into your video and make them a little self aware before little 10 year old Johnny gets his drone for Christmas and just races outside to go fly it.
Dude you can’t fly over people period in the states!!
International drone laws scare me. That’s prettty wild
Two things: flying as a tourist and flying for money (commercially) fall under two different classifications. One of which requires licensing and registration.
Also rule #1 of flying drones, regardless of weight classification, is not to fly over crowds of people. In most cases you’re allowed to fly over “uninvolved” persons, but crowds of people are strictly off limits without approval from EASA. In some places flying over crowds of people is a serious offense. I am glad you were let off with a warning but let this be a wake up call.
2 minutes in the video and you are already violating 2 rules. This is a commercial flight, 2 you are flying over people in an event. You need a license.
You need to register the drone if it has a camera no matter the weight. Below 250g you dont need the licence "Kompetenznachweis A1/A3" but it is recommended.
BTW. In that area around the Siegessäule is a complete no-fly-zone because of the distance to the goverment Regierungsviertel.
You know its interesting because in some countries for example I was in Vietnam a few months ago and in certain area's near their government buildings there has been an exclusion around their government buildings like at airports, the drone just wont lift off, makes it easy and simple to know (you cant fly there) and then in some other countries there isn't. Also last year in Cairns Australia, there was a Navy Ship at the port and their ship itself also had some sort of barrier protection where the drone wouldn't fly near it.
Die Siegessäule ist doch weit weg von all den Regierungsgebäuden, nur ein paar Boschaften sind ca. 500m weg.
Nicht weit genug weg: "Das Flugbeschränkungsgebiet ED-R 146 ist ein kreisförmiges Gebiet mit einem Radius von ca. 5,6 km um den Sitz des Deutschen Bundestags"
@@Sonymoviemasters That register of no fly zones is maintained by DJI and is by no means a substitute to checking NOTAM and local airspace regulations and restrictions. As a drone pilot you are responsible. Do not trust that system, it's wrong all the time.
Laws and law enforcement have done so many ridiculous and actually criminal things against humans that I don't know why are still being followed.
Laws aren't made n enforced for them they're for peasants like U U need to sit down n stay in Ur lane U need to submit
You can check the laws all day long but how are your supposed to know that a "parade" is registered as a demonstration? I'll bet all advertisements and public notices called it a parade.
When you travel to foreign countries it's also not always about the actual law but cultural sensitivities and religious practices. I almost got into trouble taking a standard photo of the Parthenon in Greece, simply because the non-descript grey building partially in the foreground happened to be a consulate building for Spain. I had a guard with an mp5 approach me rapidly and I had to do a bit of talking and just steadily backed away.
Huh???
There are no other buildings other than the museum, ancient temple - Erechtheion near the Parthenon in Athens.
Definitely not any embassy buildings . . . Are you sure you were photographing there?
Sounds like an issue concerning security, not cultural sensitivities 😬
The drone laws are getting pretty ridiculous in a lot of countries
To be fair, any country could have got you under the "crowd" law. In the UK, it used to be more than 1000 people. Now its "more people than could safely run out of the way of a falling drone".
It sounds like they were firm but fair with you. It always frustrates me that people lose their minds, as if its a fighter jet. Its just a camera at an unusual height!
Yes, part of the regulations are to not fly over assemblies of people. Claiming ignorance of the regulations is not a valid excuse. If you fly a drone you're expected to know the regulations. Not just because of that, but also because I don't like people bugging me, I always try to fly from a discreet area if I'm flying somewhere where people are around, but usually I'm flying in outdoor spaces, so it's not an issue.
So U sometimes fly indoor
@@jeshurunhazelton7789 no, I mean more remote outdoor areas, like national forests. Not in cities.
If they didn't have a reason to detain you and didn't know why they were detaining you, you shouldn't have gone with them. If it took them two hours to think of a reason after detaining you they were fishing for something to make up.
Ideally yes if Ur being unlawfully arrested or detained U have every right to say no n refuse but sadly most of the time that just makes things worse n we all know cops can get away with evil behaviour so the best thing is to just go with it n U get out of it with no issues
ive found that actually talking to people and showing them the remote gets them to not bother you. Being transparent and open is the way to go, not get away bc then they turn on you (at least here). Also flying in a secluded area.
If you visit a bank , you could be arrested as your intentions might have been to rob it and this is the nonsense of commercial vs recreational use. Presumed guilty without proof.
If you are selling your footage or pictures that you take with your drone then you still need a commercial drone pilots license regardless of the size of your drone in the United States of America.
It is even more restrictive than that. You can't even help out a neighbor or do anything for free for someone else without a Part 107 license. Even if you think you are just doing it for fun.
I think there are circumstances where you can fly over people, especially if you fly commercially, but you need special permission to do so. Personally I wouldn't, if you lost control and hurt someone you are the one that will be sued.
I'm studying take my part 107 exam. I need to review that part again, but there were almost no circumstances where that is allowed. Your drone has be sub 250g including propeller guards and anything else attached (category 1 sUAS):
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Or, If it is over 249g it would fall under class 2 or 3 and then it need s to be on the FAA's Declaration of Compliance list under "OOP". At the moment there is a single drone approved for class 2 and 3 OOP operations. The AgEagle senseFly eBee X series. IIRC even if you do get a permit, the people you are flying over need to be informed that they are being flown over.
uasdoc.faa.gov/listDocs
I bought a Mini 4 Pro (just under 300g with the plus size batteries). Decided I'm not even going to fly til I have my part 107 certification (I am registered with the FAA already and did the TRUST certification for recreational flying). Should be ready for the exam in a few more weeks... there is a LOT of information to digest.
I am never going to fly directly over people or moving vehicles (as it's basically not allowed in most circumstances).
Good story. 1 thing i would say is at the start you say straight off you make money from.... If i was the Drone police I would have jumped on that straight away as I would have though most countries you need a commercial licence to fly/shoot for money. That said you clearly fly responsibly and compared to 99% of the stuff I see on FB & YT you are not hurting anyone so glad you only got a warning.
Thanks for sharing this story. It is sad to hear that the police have nothing better to do (or allowed to do) than to harass a guy flying a drone. I guess it is much easier and safer to do that, than to go after criminals. It tied them up for several hours so they don't have to do their real job. That said, I would not fly near a crowd of people or over people to take photos or videos. Not worth the risk regardless of your drone weight.
You still should learn and understand the drone laws, with landmarks you will usually need a license to fly around them, also you broke the law flying over a large crowd this is against drone laws also if your drone shots are being used to make money you need a commercial license to use them. Regardless of drone weight you should still always do the CAA exams and license tests.
Wat if the landmark consents U flying around them for example I fly around the statue of liberty once n she winked at my drone n proclaimed that I could fly around her as long as I be careful does this count
What this crazy bull I’m shocking bro. Sorry brother. I got my nano 1s emax drone taken by police while on because I was a mile near a park. Just took it before even got to fly.
Hello, I'm from Germany, and I'm flying a DJI Mini 3 pro as well. It's not allowed to fly over this location for many more reasons: Festival or demonstration - it's a crowd (it's forbidden in the UK as well), it's a roundabout, so it's a street and especially this type of streets are forbidden as well (you have to keep distance, at least 100 m). The restricted area of buildings of the government is nearby, and I guess it's a regulated airspace. It's such a cool place for flying a drone, but unfortunately... Best of luck!
I was VLogging and Flying My Mini 3 Pro at night at Universal City Walk in Orlando, FL... went through Security and X-Ray scanners with my camera/drone bag and everything, including Googling for any restrictions, which NONE came up... After about a good 5mins, I was approached by foot patrol security asking me to bring my Drone down down, and Yeah, they stood right there beside me until they watched me put it away in the bag... Of course I left the camera running as I was bringing it back safely 😎😎😎..I explained I did the research prior to visiting, they claimed they were exempt from flight due to City Walk being "Private Property"... I have the VLog and footage on my channel if anyone cares to watch it (shameless plug) Glad you didn't get into BIG trouble! Thanks for sharing!!! #Salute and Happy Flying in the future!!!
Very misleading. You were NOT arrested, you were detained and let go with a warning. BIG difference.
He just wanted to get more clicks! Lol. Typical youtuber.
I disagree. In many US jurisdictions, once a person's freedom of movement is restricted, a technical arrest may be extant for which the authorities must have "probable cause." Probable cause in this instance is challengeable as the authorities were initially unable to identify a violation ( it took them a while to do the research, thus revealing that , at time of the movement being restricted, no identifiable violation was like known by the authorities. A hunch is not probable cause.
@@edruttledge342 I'm confused by your reply. Do you think he was arrested or not? To me, it sort of sounds like you don't think he was arrested.
@@shb7772000if If in most jurisdictions in the US, he was technically "arrested." his freedom of movement was stopped, he was held for two hours and he was asked questions beyond providing information on his identity. However, if challenged, I think this "arrest" would not accrue as there was, based on what we know, no probable cause at the moment of the arrest. Thus, any evidence garnered by the flawed "arrest" would be excludable as evidence.
Bottom line, he did the right thing. He complied with the cop, maintained his composure and kept good mental notes on the encounter to write down after the encounter. If he wants to call it an "arrest," I think he can.
Second bottom line: Cops are not comfortable with civilians piloting drones - they will creatively "find" ways to stop the activity. In the US, open carry of guns is okey dokey. But, piloting drones is not.
You didn't know that you need a licence to breathe ! 🚔 🗽 ⚖️
In the UK you cannot fly over crowds.
The real issue is…Foreigner in Berlin. I was in law and fly and film now often. A lot of what is threatened is false!! Learn the law
Hi, Interresting. In Belgium, we have this kind of rule too. If a 'big event' is going on, like a football match, or anything with a croud, then the mayer (meaning the police) has a security meeting with the organiser, and if there is a drone planned to fly, it must be mentionned. It is logical, because the police might also have a drone operating, or a helicopter flying.... So if you fly there and you didn't talk to the organiser of the event, or directly to the police, you are not allowed to fly. Not sure a lot of poeple know that rule. I'm a drone instructor, so I know it, but it's kind of hidden, not in the general drone rules.
Flying over crowds even with a sub 250g drone is not allowed, but obviously, different countries may have different rules, and what is a crowd? Could be subjective, but sporting events concerts and the like are not allowed here in the uk for general hobbyists 👍
A crowd is probably defined as a fairly decent amount of people in a confined space so prob at least fifty or more people gathered together cause obviously if the drone falls over them it could potentially injure or even kill someone but if it's a group of a dozen walking down the street that'd obviously not be considered a crowd that's just my interpretation tho might not be fully accurate
Regardless of weight of the drone in Australia you are not allowed to fly over large crowds of people don't know if this is the case in other countries
Is it classed as a large crowd if it's a group of thirty
@jeshurunhazelton7789 I wouldn't know because it doesn't exactly say how many people constitute a large crowd same as a Populars area how many people
In the UK you're not allowed to fly over groups of people, so this situation would have fitted that description. I believe this is the same in Europe, however it is strange that they detained you first then found a law, which does sound dubious, but hey who can argue with the police in a foreign country.
The USA regs on drones are now why I rarely fly.. which sucks, because FPV was like therapy for me, and I live in a VERY rural area.
I guess the Police was afraid of someone throwing a granade over the demonstrants. These laws are so new almost nobody know them.... If I'm not in the wrong, in Europe they settled on the following:
-sub250g need no license but can't stay over traffic lanes or multitudes.
-sub2000g need no license but can only be flown in non-urban areas.
If you need to fly over a multitude, like for example in a concert, you will also need a permission from the organizers wich will tipically imply an insurance to cover any possible damage. That's all.
Is every pilot's responsibility to research the local laws and restrictions, specially in massive events. You were very lucky not to have a big fine, arrested, or worse. Thanks for the PSA.
Is it still illegal to fly over a crowd if the crowd is an invading army of soldiers illegally marching into Ur country is it still illegal to fly over them to get some cheeky shots
In EU reading the A1 C0 rules , you are not allowed to fly over a congregation / group of people.
You're doing this for commercial purposes, so surely you require a licence.
No. You need an Operator ID for the drone, DMARES Registration for the pilot and insurance for commercial operation of UAS (a drone with a camera) - and you can't fly UAS over an operation of the emergency services.
1. if you sell footage from a drone, this is a for-profit business activity! You must have commercial insurance + a test pilot's license with the aviation authority.
2. You may NOT fly over a group of people even if it is only a non-commercial flight
Drones are cool. You should never fly one over a crowd, regardless of it being legal or not.
Here in Spain the rule for 249gm drone is not to fly over crowds of people. I thought that was the same in Germany, in fact, Europe worldwide. Admittedly, the rules are very confusing.
You were not arrested. You were detained. Its a huge difference
The Mini 4 Pro won't fly into established restricted zones. As soon as the boundary is reached it stops which is a go thing. Saves you from getting fines or being arrested.
So you weren't arrested then... Simply saying "almost ARRESTED" would have been just as appealing and would have been true.
Well, Germany has very real terrorism concerns, unlike say an island in the middle of nowhere.
You were "detained"...not arrested. There's a significant difference.,,in the US anyway.
😂-You where gathering counter intelligence like the army. (CooL)
The most common international confusions do seem to come from the differences in the regulations/prohibitions for flying over crouds between countries & also if you are monetized in any way (even by CZcams) making you a commercial enterprise requiring insurance & registrations. In the UK CZcams monetisation doesn't make you commercial but in the US I think it does... But checking out the local regs is always good for instance if you are on holiday in Bermuda and you wear a camo t-shirt when flying your drone you will also be arrested as camo is illegal there for civilians
"In the UK CZcams monetisation doesn't make you commercial but in the US I think it does"
Yes; but not exactly for that reason. Basically you have to register and be Part 107 certificated (remote pilot) *unless* you are flying for purely recreational purposes. It need not be commercial; merely not pure recreation. This captures a lot of news photography and public service photography.
Also, even non-monetized CZcams videos earn ad revenue for CZcams. So it's furthering A business. Don't know if that counts...
Went to victoria falls in zambia, africa , as I was goingt hrough the check point at the airport on my exit of zambia, my mini 2 drone was taken away from me ! I was told that because I did not declare the drone on entry to zambia, it was confiscated.i wanted to take a pic of the officers badge, but she hid it ! I am a south African in a foreign African country , so I had no hope , but to say goodbye to my mini 2 !
Profiting from drone work is commercial and drone needs to be registered. But they should have waited till you were done flying, they technically broke the law, as they interfered with a drone pilot flying, granted your drone would have just hovered but still people taking your attention away from what your doing is illegal. Do not fly over people if your not part 107 and have insurance.
The cops were fishing as we call it
People who fly those drones drive a tesla. Fpv we don't fly over people or around big crowds only DJI drones get this attention from police.
In most cases in the US, you can record assemblies but not fly overt them, but you can from the side!
Thats why no matter what, dont be seen. If a kid can walk up to you, you've done something wrong. My biggest hurdle now is the goggles that make it that much more difficult to be discrete. One guy caught me about a month ago as I was sitting up against a fence tucked between a couple cars. He was an owner of one of the cars just wondering what I was doing. Most of the time I fly from inside my vehicle thats reasonably private. If Im on my electric scooter, I stay away from the area I want to fly over. OcuSync 3 covers a massive area, use it. If the drone is over 150 and you cant be seen, no one even knows your there.
90% of the time when im flying I just sit in my car and fly, but I do find being in the car effects the range quite dramatically. But when im travelling other counties I dont have a car to hide away in!
You're not supposed to openly admit your Drone is out of line of sight. Theres another fine. 🤣
You dont have to be a in a car. Just pick the best spot (line of sight of course lol) that could be even sitting in a tree.
If I were to break the law and of course I dont, I would fly my drone far from where Im standing. Then when you're leaving the area, fly away from you so if someone is watching they think the operator is in that direction, gain altitude, then turn around and fly back to where you're standing. If someone is trying to catch you, they will be heading in the opposite direction.
I have logged hundreds of hours and only twice have people seen me. Once was the car owner and the other was landscapers as I was flying from a church on top of a hill and because of the goggles I didnt see them coming.
@@Sonymoviemasters
I don’t like to be sneaky when flying my drone, but I also don’t want to attract too much attention as sometimes it might cause distraction when a curious passerby starts a conversation, friendly or otherwise.
Is there a way for an average person to find out ahead of time how an event has been registered? Official website, or whatever? Otherwise, how would you know if you're potentially breaking the law, based upon the type of event you're covering?
I live in the Netherlands and we have now same rules all across the European Union. There is actually no such a law. It is forbidden to fly over crowd of people though. Next time you are being questioned about your drone flight tell them that you did a risk assessment in advance and decided it was a low risk operation.
To prevent this happening again. You got repremanded because you are not allow to fly a drone (even if it is below 250g) over a crowded place. It does not matter that it was a protest or a carnival. Flying over a location where people can't 'get out of the way' if you drone falls out of the sky is ilegal. You also need to have an operator id given to you by the UK gov.
Wat if there's an invading army of soldiers illegally marching into Ur country is it still illegal to fly Ur drone over them to get some cheeky shots
What an interesting predicament, and I'm happy things didn't end up worse for you. The parade was legally categorized more like a protected protest than a traditional gathering.
Didn't you check out the laws and rules for the place you were going to before you lunch your aircraft? Maybe next time you go to a place in the world should ask a cop before lunching your aircraft on the safe side.
cops are not a good source of info on this. They might just tell you no because they don't like drones, or are making an assumption, regardless of what the law actually is. Here in the US at least there is b4ufly app that can tell you if you are in a restricted area. Not sure what is available in other countries.
Reading your comments makes me hungry for some reason.
In the us is a Nono, flight ove people, No 107 cert, and not permit. Screw DJI, too slow, I have a 6” rinocerous quad, with GoPro 11, get in get out fast, problem solve. I’m a 2+ kilometer away anyway. And I land a block away, just in case.
Please dont fly over people.
Leave it to a dji owner to put it all in a negative image.
There’s an absolute no flight zone because of several government buildings nearby. Basically it’s just the same as you are trying to fly over the White House area. Actually looks like you got pretty soft handled after all.
So how is someone going to find out a crowd is a protest and not a street party. Difficult when it's down to the opinion of the police.
There is a difference between being arrested and being detained. From your description, it seems like you were simply detained. Maybe that technicality is different in Germany than, say, Canada or the U.S. I don't know.
The problem was, you said you post the pictures on a site that makes money that puts you under commercial flyers so under part 107. Second recreational flying doesn’t allow you to fly over people either.
I have had to fly on several occasions around large crowds of people for work. Usually I just contact the police. Tell them what I am doing and honestly they will come out and clear off a spot for me and let me go straight up to get the shots without flying over people etc and keep the bystanders from bothering me. My first move around large events like that is to get in touch with the police. Usually a day or two before. Present my credentials and go from there. Very large events that have a Temporary Flight Restriction (NFL games, NASCAR races, Political rallies etc) are a different matter all together and can be troublesome. You have to talk to the governing authority over that to get permission well in advance.
Quite interesting. From a U.K. point of view I thought they were going to warn you about flying directly over crowds. Yea every country is different.
You could argue that it was not adequately brought to your attention that it was a demo; not a street party. But, the argument against that is it’s for the Pilot to find out.
Happy flying. 👍 from Wales 🏴
yes i thought it would be that it was a crowd, so he was braking the law i guess lol
Yeah in Australia if you look up the laws, it says you can fly over people if its above 30m, but then it also says you cant fly over crowds.. which kinda contradicts itself.
@@Sonymoviemasters It’s how you interpret the law. U.K. law states a crowd as being a gathering of people; it does not mention numbers but does say in a confined area unable to escape an out of control U.A.V.
In the U.S. it is flying *directly* over crowds. Be a bit off to one side so that if it goes straight down it won't hit anyone. In the photo example, the drone was directly above a monument and thus not actually directly over any specific person.
Sorry I must have missed something.
You wasn't arrested!
Definitely an interesting story. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍👍
How are you supposed to know that the police would clarify the march as a protest? They did that after the fact it sounded like.
So without even knowing the laws themselves the cops in Germany are grabbing people off the street? Sounds like something the Gestapo would do. I thought the Gestapo was a thing of the past but I guess not.
Wow, that's nuts. It's not your fault that the event you were flying over was registered incorrectly. How were you supposed to know it was a protest from that altitude?
When i fly in st paul I asked permission to the guard and they said yes but for practice amd after practice i flow everywhere in campus and ask again and said yes but expect inside only outside is ok for me to fly
You were not arrested. You were detained. Flying over a crowd is illegal. Selling your drone videos is illegal if you don't have your part 107 license. (In the USA) It's probably the same there too.
Again Regulators making Regulations about TOYs they know Little to nothing about, Except they are dangerious and need Regulation. BS. Like in the USA the NTSB/FAA can't handle what they have on their plate now yet Congress saddled them with thr Regulation/enforcement of TOYs that Fly.
You need clearance to fly a drone over people and vehicles. The law is if it leaves the ground it's governed by the FAA
But why, in NZ I can sit a theoretical motorcycle test get my Learners license and go riding out on the road even though I've never sat on a motorcycle in my life before now that's dangerous and there are tons of motorcycle accidents each year that kill people how is that safe? yet I cant fly my 249g 100m up in the sky over people or vehicles, how many people have been killed by drones falling out the sky again? even people riding electric scooters have more accidents then drones do so why is any member of the public allowed to have access to those without a license? its absolute insanity.
Because Amazon and Fedx want to start drone package delivery and we are in their way😣
I don't know where you are from and what country you are talking about where this happened & where you were arrested - you are obviously not a native English speaker. But according to the rules & limitations of flying a drone (I have the 'Mini 4 Pro') you must avoid flying over crowds or groups of more than 12 people with this specific Mini 3 Pro (up to 250g), regardless of festivals, party events or whatever. This is illegal and may therefore result in criminal prosecution.
Did you watch the video?
In US fly for fun.. no problem but at least you should know the rule.. 🤷🏻♂️..
It took the police 2 hours to concoct an excuse to detain you ? ! ! Sounds like HARASSMENT, plain & simple.
What if you had flown the drone from 1k away they wouldn't catch you would they?
I believe insurance may be required if you are using a drone for commercial gain.
Good advice in any instance to check National Laws and Local Bylaws, this is a bit confusing though, if you are placed under arrest you should be cautioned so at first i thought you had misinterpreted exactly what had happened, perhaps the officers were simply asking questions to ensure you were doing nothing untoward, especially considering it was a pride celebration, it could easily be thought you had hateful intentions. However when you mention the Visa issue that is completely different, far more official, in the UK if a person accepts a Caution most tend to think they are just being told off but that is not the case they now have a criminal record all be it low level. If i were you i would make further enquiries and see exactly what you have been accused of, i don’t know exactly but perhaps through your embassy or Elected representative and have any record expunged.
Still sound advice though, we all need to be cautious things will only get more stringent.
Commercial use and flying over people. Broke FAA flight rules twice
Cannot fly over people. Or in crowds during special events.
You should not be flying over people regardless. I've been flying rc for 40 years now and confirm that sometimes shiite does indeed happen 😉
I'm currently now back In Australia but we have more relaxed laws on drones here. I've been to USA but only new York. I definitely didn't fly my drone there
No separation distance with a mini drone u can fly over people
@@johnbarton732 Not if you use common sense... It's thinking like that that's caused us to be saddled with RID tags and being targeted by any karen with a drone finder app on her cellphone... let alone the thieves, Like I said above..my 40 years experience has taught me that if stuff can happen it will..
@@steve_beatty If stuff can happen and it will why here in NZ why do they allow someone to sit a theory test to get a learners license to then ride a 200kg motorcycle on the open road around members of the public without ever even sitting on one before, how many people are killed in motorcycle every year must be thousands. Even electric scooters have more accidents then drones do and anyone can jump on one of those as long as they download the app without any kind of license and ride around the street with members of the public all around. Yet we cant fly our 249g drone over members of the public or vehicles how many people have been killed by drones falling out the sky , the risk is just not as high it makes no sense.
Drone rules should be relaxed now since the newest drones have much more technology and are very safe to fly. The mini drones like the Mini 3 Pro and the Mini 4 Pro that I now have are exceptional drones that are extremely lightweight. Drone rules in the United States are not usually strictly enforced unless someone files a complaint to the FAA.
Hello mate, your story has been helpful. Thank you so much.
My pleasure!
There is no minimum weight in the EU (to include Germany) any longer! All drones are unfortunately under the scrutiny of the law, so those of you that purchased a drone under 250 grams hoping not to have it: registered with EU license number mounted on the drone with separate identification of owner (name, address & telephone number & proof of flight knowledge exam), your simply flying illegally! New change effective as of 01 January 2024
You can't fly over dense crowds even if the drone is under 250g in the UK
Glad I live in Mexico
To be honest I’m still confused as to the rules here in the UK! ‘Cause they keep changing them! And that’s the CAA!
Air should be free.
You were DETAINED, not ARRESTED.
In Canada flying over people any hieght and roadways will get you in trouble if they want.