A TenPoint for Every Budget?!?
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- čas přidán 18. 01. 2024
- "Affordable" varies from one crossbow hunter to another but these are definitely some lower price crossbows from TenPoint. TenPoint offers a few more crossbows for 2024 and we look at them here. Our next video will start to look at even more affordable models from other manufacturers going forward.
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Great job on this video review Rich! I’m very happy with TenPoint and I think that their 2nd label Wicked Ridge is their best kept secret! My M-370 probably only shoots around 350 FPS, but it’s dropped six deer this season! Their lighted nocks are an issue but for $499 at Bass Pro Shops, this is a features rich bargain crossbow! Remember they used to advertise “ Speed thrills but accuracy thrills”!!
Really detailed video, Rich. That Titan 400 looks nice and simple with a lot of power. I have a Ravin R5X and it looks similar. A (belated 5-months old!) thank you from England.
Once again the 400-400 concept rings true!
Another great video Rich👍🏻
Just wanted to say thanks for all your videos reviews and kills. I am new to crossbows and truly enjoy your videos. Thanks from Alabama!!!
Interesting thank you looking forward to the next one!!
Rich, another fantastic video.
Speaking of every budget. I finally got a crossbow. Saw the PSE Coalition Frontier at Rogers sporting goods in KC for $199 with scope, cocking cable, bolts, quiver. They set it up and sighted it in and chronoed it in for me and let me shoot it a little bit. Extra package of bolts, altogether less than $250 out the door. It is not as powerful as a ten point but every bit as powerful as my compound and i shoot the fastest heaviest compound I could buy and have a 30.6” draw. So it is enough.
I appreciate you. You set a good example for dads out here, set your ego aside and use a crossbow. Helps a lot to get the kids out there. It’s not loud, no recoil, no big learning curve.
Now that I have this thing I am gonna use it too. It’s going to be awesome.
I appreciate you.
Thanks! Good luck with the PSE, good stuff, and a good deal.
I bought a Bruin Ambush 425 with a speed ring scope and crank. Nothing fancy. Just a real solid bow. Accurate and very hard-hitting bow. My budget does allow me to purchase a expensive bow, but more expensive won't make the meat taste any better.
Looking forward to the next video as I am the definition of a budget shopper for a crossbow.
😄 nothing wrong with that!
Good stuff!
Just watched a clip from the 2024 ATA Barnett line up, super interesting optics selection!!!
Thank you for this I love the way you film your videos and your personality makes these videos much better and easier to follow along compared to other videos. Keep it up!!!
I’ve never had a crossbow before and I just started learning about them and looking into buying one. I’ve been looking into the WR invader 400
Is there anything I should be looking out for or worried about when buying my first crossbow???
Just shoot it a few times before you buy to make sure it's a good fit and then make sure you 100% understand how to operate every aspect of it. Ask the shop, watch videos, read directions, call the company with questions. Good luck!
You’re right about the scope. I upgraded all 3 crossbows that I own with better scopes. Probably the most important part of the bows nowadays since most bows are already super accurate.
As always enjoyed! Looking forward to your Walmart crossbows, I own one thats on that list. No gripes just want more PUNCH! So again I am going to plug the Wicked Ridge RDX 410. Reverse limbs, 410, 146ke and $899.00 for the package! Thats $899.00 for reverse limbs!!! Hail to Bunjie! Best crossbow channel on CZcams!
Thanks, good stuff!
Hi Rich, For Christmas, I bought last year's Tenpoint Vengent S440 package deal that includes the soft case, evo-x scope, quiver and 6 evo-x centerpunch arrows from Pyramid Air for $1156. Very happy with it.
Good to hear! Good luck!
I got the venom x in my sights was looking at the ravin r10 but I can’t stop thinking about the safe decock on ten point u can let go at anytime, on the ravin u can’t let go so I’m pretty positive I’m going with tenpoint thanks for the video
Their Wicked Ridge line is impressive too. Great value and performance.
💯 agree!
I really like some of the innovations they have added this year but i really dont want to cross into the 3-4k range on a crossbow. But, if I, or anyone else for that matter, is willing to wait, you usually buy thes front line bows next year for around half price. I do believe though, that some of these bows are engineering marvels.
Yep the prices come down over time, pretty neat tech for sure!
great video!! Yay! Big fan here from NC…Could you possibly do a review on Barnett’s new line of scopes and binoculars called buc ops. Will it be the future of crossbow scopes? Will other brands follow? Thanks again for all ur great posts!
Just saw those will look closely!
Thanks américain brother
Great review headed to the woods Sunday still have to weeks left in ohio hoping to break in the new swat x1
Awesome good luck!
What? You guys are still hunting deer? Damn so that must be nice. We don't get to do that here.
For me personally, my starting point when looking at a crossbow, does it have a solid limb design. I’ll never own a split limb crossbow. I love the Scorpyd line!
Interesting, the split limb doesn't bother me as much as the four cables LOL but that's probably just in my head.
Another nice video. I'm like you and would like to know the un-cocked size of crossbows. It helps decide if my blind will work or not.
The extra set of cables is for the purpose of controlling cam lean.
I really like your channel thank you for what you do, Ive been bowhunting since I was 15 or 16 now I'm 55 I mostly used compounds for most of my time hunting but I got a crossbow around 2009 I think it was it was I got a parker buck buster 175 and I loved that x bow I killed a 8 pointer the first time I took it in the woods what luck lol... I loved parker because they had lifetime warranty and was based in my home state of good ol Virginia but unfortunately they went out of business so I'm wanting a new x bow this year and wow whats happening lol first and foremost the prices are crazy 4 grand for a x bow not happening lol, then I been looking and half them don't have a foot stirrup and that's crazy even if they have a hand crank you still need to sturdy the x bow and what about the broadhead it protects it .. i kinda think do these guys that design these new x Bows even hunt because I'm starting to wonder.. 😂 lol.. I would like to find a American made x Bow for say a grand or under that's narrow light and shoots near 400 feet per second and oh yeah that has a foot stirrup 😂.. is this to much to ask for lol..
I love this SWAT X1, maybe shoot one at a shop sometime, you might too
@@Deathbybunjie thank you, I will look into that one hopefully there's a shop near me that sells them lol... thank you I appreciate it
Agree that the Wicked Ridge Line is well made and has Tenpoint features. Love my Wicked Ridge M-370 and dropped a nice buck for me this year. I did put a better scope on it....a Vortex Crossfire which I love the optics. Check out the Wicked Ridge line!
That's great to hear, I think almost every crossbow out there benefits from a scope upgrade not just because lots of times there are better Scopes but because Scopes are so personal in my opinion
I noticed while you were going over the Titan and Venom the scopes they ship with do not have a range dial. Basically locked into their bolt of choice to keep your drop consistent.
Interesting!
I just ordered the titan 400.
Hello Rich, great video as usual! I have been hunting with an older Stealth FX4 since 2017. I really like the crossbow and have taken many deer with it. However, I had a limb break a couple of years ago. Tenpoint paid to have it repaired, no problems. I started using heavier arrows and broadheads, and all is well! The Seige and Venom are looking attractive for the money, and I could even look into adding the Burris range finder scope. I think I would go for the sold green model. I don't really care for the use of white in camo.
How have your Burris scopes been holding up? I know you had some problems there for a while; is there a particular model that is better?
Loving the Burris, their warranty is awesome. I agree and prefer no white in camo!
"Built" in America with nearly ALL Chinese and Indian MIM parts. Strings and Canadian Trigger Boxes are about the only exception.
Hello Mr Bungie! Enjoyed this video & always enjoy reading your insights on new crossbows offerings. This video was honest & opinionated at the same time in which I have ZERO problems with. Everyone has their opinions & I respect those views although I may or may not agree with them. Tenpoint’s 2024 offerings are vast & to me, exciting. The models you mentioned on this video has their following. The new Venom X is going to be a great seller for Tenpoint as their ACU slide, cocking, de-cocking system I feel is the best on the market. Notice the terminology “I feel” which is my own opinionated view. But the Venom X model does offer the aluminum rail which is almost indestructible. Heavier limb thickness is also a plus which has to viewed “in person” to see the difference. The other factor is they have “beefed up” the string & cables. I have seen & shot this model in person & feel as though Tenpoint has hit a MAJOR home run with this Crossbow. But may I also add that Wicked Ridge by Tenpoint has some amazing new offerings that are extremely budget friendly. Their new 2024 Commander M1 is a testament to that fact. Maybe you can do a video on that one at your convenience. But if I may, there may be cheaper crossbows out there as you have pointed out selling at Walmart that one can have a rather inexpensive Crossbow that is capable of doing the job at hand… BUT… BUT… they are all made overseas & their warranty is non desirable to say the least. When purchasing a Wicked Ridge by Tenpoint or a Tenpoint model one IS getting a Crossbow that is built right.. right here in the USA 🇺🇸 and that Sir has to be a HUGE factor for anyone spending their hard earned money. I applaud (as always) your honest views & by all means, everyone has the right to choose their style, make, & design of a Crossbow. I hold no ill will on an individual choosing how & what to spend their money on. That’s why we live in the GREATEST Country on Planet Earth because we as Americans do have that Freedom of choice. Keep making these videos as I enjoy watching. And I think it’s might good for two Crossbow enthusiasts such as you & I to come together & agree & also disagree. Isn’t that the beauty of our Freedom? I believe you will agree with that!!!!
100% also I got to see the 515 in person this weekend too. Some video coming soon on that!
Would like to see go over the Barnett crossbows like this, I got a Barnett XP390 W/CCD for 349.99 CAD. Seems like a quality crossbow to me with good velocity at a absolute steal of a price.
I will look at them soon
The reason they don't want your foot in the stirrup is that there is a sled that pulls the string back. If something broke during cocking, the sled could "shoot" into your foot causing injury. It's a safety issue.
You will eventually convert to Tenpoint, Richard! Give in to the dark side..
He keeps playing with the fire… eventually the fire will get you!
Eventually? Maybe lol
Indeed lol
Broadhead protection is important.
I don’t mind the light arrows that come with some of the crossbows because the manufacturer is saying that the crossbow is safe with that lighter arrow and I’m sure that you will always get a full pass through with a broadside double lung shot
Good points, there's lots of energy there and if it works, it works!
My 1st and only crossbow that I still use is a Ravin29x. It jukes and spins all over the place when I’m cranking it and I don’t think I’ll ever get good at it .It’s sooooo annoying! 😂
My fist crossbow was KI ripper 415 love it now I got ten point vengeance s440 getting 418fps with 450 grains they don’t recommend shooting 400 grains out of it
Good setups for sure!
So did you ever get that warm fuzzy feeling with the Oracle X scope? Knew you were having some accuracy issues with them a while back. Wicked Ridge Vital X is what I’m using now and love it and the price. From 40 yards in you can’t beat it.
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Those 2 videos in that order do a good job covering it. I don't see myself hunting without this type of scope from here on out.
I’ll stick with my Excalibur 330 bulldog
Ezygreen bow press with adapter for narrow bows. Another $700.
Scopes and reticles crammed all in one spot just about. Get the Oracle ? Yup that's a fix. Also think a red dot sighted in at 30 yards and Kentucky windage, another fix for busy scope issue. That will take a lot of range time but is for sure a solution in those confident enough to do it.
I run with a vortex strike fire ll on my hunting x-bows , perfect combination,my opinion. They are easy and extremely lightweight
@@MichaelLakota-vc4tk I am gonna swap my scope for a red dot optic just to see how useful it is ( or not ) My shots are all 50 yards and under. It's a personal issue with me not to shoot plus 50 shots. Has never cost me a deer season either.
@@jeffhays1968 I’m right there with you bud! I just put the dot on the front shoulder and squeeze the trigger. My last deer was at 51 yards, perfect hit. Went less than 60yards. I’m not proud of taking that shot though because I thought he was closer 😐Every thing always seems to be closer when you’re 25ft up a tree lol
@@MichaelLakota-vc4tk I like to have a range finder when setting up a tree stand. A little flag at 30-40-50 in a couple spots gets rid of a lot of guess work and stress when that deer finally shows up.
@@jeffhays1968 agreed 👍🏻 trust me when I say batteries don’t last forever lol. That was my problem
You will learn the crossbow press stuff quickly
Haha the vortex is the same way with the reticle 20 and 30 above the main crosshairs and I’m not going to lie it took me a minute to get used to it. That being said I love it.
Once you get used to it probably ok. The Oracle X took me a bit, too.
The bow hanger can be swapped for a bigger stirrup. Ten points scopes are very nice. My Viper S400 has a speed ring scope and its very accurate and clear and gathers light great and that's important because usually a big buck will show up after dusk. I've shot 10 deer in the few years I've owned my Viper S400, before that i had the wicked Ridge and it was nice but when they came out with the crank that you you could un cock i had to have it. I hunt A Lot !!! And shooting your bow off at lunch and at dark i tore up so many decocking arrows it wasn't funny by hitting a rock you couldn't see or frozen ground. I love the crank and its a very good xbow. It cost $1700 when I bought it but my compound bows cost $1300 bare so not much difference.
Good point on price! I agree it's all about low light too!
Barnett used 380 gr.bolts to get there speeds
Good video bud they have good crossbows American made but still way overpriced little bit overrated too the max should be $1300 and under well that’s what I would pay I mean
Good video again Rich! That Venom X looks like a great value for a bow with the improved accuslide. The way I understand it is the Venom and Siege 425 both have a true anti-dry fire unlike prior accuslide bows. Pretty cool. Venom is $999 at Wyverns. 👍
I don't know if things have changed with this newer model Siege but the past models LOP was just too short for me. It just didn't feel comfortable, much like the Ravin R26
@@jimowens381 Agreed. I had a siege and it was way too short with out stock extensions. With 2 extensions it fit perfect.
Good stuff
I'm happy to hear that 10 pt is going to a true anti dryfire system. It was very difficult to visually confirm that the nock was fully seated on the string. Especially in low light like being in a treestand 1/2 hour before sunrise.
@@jenniferrobinson5813 100% Agree.
Nice review. Are you up for an Ontario bear hunt?
I sure hope so!
would you like an Ontario bowhunter for company?@@Deathbybunjie
@davidstonkus3288 maybe some day! No plans right now though.
Remember Ten point uses a 400 grain arrow to get there speeds but a 445 grain bolt comes with the crossbow which drops speeds 25 fps so the new trx515 is really a 495 fps and tx440 is really a tx420 so you are NOT getting what your paying for in a sense and I hate this about ten point just tell it like it is Ravin and scorpyd are true speeds
Ummm I can assure you Scorpyd is not "true speeds" lol, I've never hit 420 with the DS 420. Ravin, however? I agree. Tenpoint speeds on the 515 were with a 410 grainer I think, still pretty cool.
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Cool vidja Big Rich but you better git yer hindend out there helpin the Mrs. with the shovelin or you might find yerself in HER SIGHTS!🤣🤣🤣👊😎🦌
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with what you call barrel are what i would call nothing more than guides could make some issues with arrow not have a straight flight same as one can get with arrow not properly aligned on bows, i dont know how much this can affect its flight and accuracy, i also find it sorta peculiar how they can extort $1500 extra just to adding 4" of power stroke when reversing the limbs on the 515.
something that puzzles me when huntng in the woods how far can you really shoot with al the branches and trees, in open field i understand you can shoort further. in the woods animals have issues seeing you i guess they smell before they see, in fileds they can see futher. so why the eagerness to shoot 50-70m in the woods when you can barely see more than 20-35m in green season.
Different strokes for different folks lol
I have the crank takes to long
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No thanks wouldn’t have anything that requires a special nock to shoot. You can’t even nock tune these arrows cause the nocks are glued in.
My Barnett xp 370 will shoot just as well to 40 yards wich is my max hunting distance and it was only $239.00
Barnett top notch for sure, can't beat that price!
I had a Ten Point. great cross bow. killed a few deer with it . However . The limbs started to crack. I notified Ten Point and they were very willing to help me . I sent the Bow in ( they paid ) . They replaced my limbs and I was on my way. 10 months later , I noticed more cracks in my new limbs. I notified Ten Point. THIS time I got the political run around. They would NOT repair my bow because " The original warranty was up. I said but the limbs are not even a year old. Bottom line . They would not fix my bow. So I replaced The bow , and it was NOT a Ten Point..
they would not fix my bow.
That's no good, sorry to hear that!
Tenpoint are super loud. My son has one. We won't buy another till they tame that
Should probably stay away from all crossbows then.
@@ThumbsMcThumb we have three other ones. No where near as loud.
You shouldn't be shooting at live animals past 50 yards all crossbows are loud I have 2 10 point crossbows and have taken 12 deer in 4 years and never had one duck th bolt at least enough to miss the kill zone
@@myronchamberlain7734 who said we were taking long shots or deer ducking?...🤦♂️🤦♂️
Bungee was talking about the scope only going to 70 yards which is to far for a clean shot what do you shoot a crossbow made in China
After 10 years of 10 point (buying/junking) I will have to see it to believe it.
All the money goes into advertising and little into R&D.
The consumer is the R&D and the customer pays for the research.
Good deal for 10 point.
Not a great deal for the consumer.
Rampage 360 is the most affordable
Sure they fit your budget...lf you make six figures a year...Get your head out of your ass just because you have lots of $$$ to throw around doesnt mean everybody else does...
I don't quite feel as strongly as this person. But, I think he has a point, one I think you've been losing track of. I'm not sure you want to lose track of your base, or the average Joe. Which makes up most of us out here. Been trying to drop hints over the last 6 to 8 months. But you would have none of it. It's kind of like your real job career. In what direction do you want to go? Hell Rich, we all love you, and most of what you put out. But, where you going??? Can't throw tidbits to the average Joe, once in awhile, and expect them to keep coming back. Just saying brother, just saying.😊
Wow, grouchy much?
I think everyone can enjoy crossbow technology and I've said over and over I wouldn't buy one this expensive. I also repeatedly say this technology trickles down. We'll see this in more affordable packages soon. Remember, someone was saying this exact same thing about 400fps crossbows in 2010. (And thank you for not being ad grouchy as the other guy lol)
Holy smokes dude, calm down.
@@Deathbybunjie did I sound grouchy? Sorry, didn't mean too. I just see you going high tech on most things now. Some people can afford all the goodies and others can't, or don't want to, for whatever reason. But we still love our sport! And I'm not grouchy! 😜