No one heals from an affair. Even if they forgive… they never forget. You have to choose to love the person every day even after the betrayal. Distrust is always in the back of your mind. Margaret doesn’t understand that, because she was person having the affair.
You are spot on..I try to love my person through my feelings of betrayal, and sometimes you don’t feel like loving them. Sometimes words or actions trigger that memory and here come the water works..especially if the affair developed into a relationship 😔. You don’t heal, you learn how to cope.
@@sharjohn84 I agree! They act like she isn’t strong. I don’t think it’s weak to stay. I think it takes strength to stay and try for your kids. As long as the person is contrite and truly changed. I support women who stay or leave. Whatever they can live with is the right decision ❤️
I know I'll be criticized for saying this, but I personally couldn't live with a husband if he was unfaithful. The only way I could ever consider it would be if I stepped out, too, because then you're on equal footing. The pain of imagining the person with someone else would be canceled out. For me. That's just me. Without kids in the picture, my truer instinct would be to say arrivederci.
If the kids that Margaret raised don't talk to her and they haven't forgave her for the affair she had till this day what makes her think Jennifer has healed.
I remember last season Melissa wrote a nasty post about Jennifer and then Joe said something nasty in her comments about Jen so Jen retaliated. And now the Gorgas are playing victim and keep talking about the stupid crook comment.
Melissa wrote a post responding to Jeniffers tweet about her and her husband. Why don’t you include that! She didn’t just wake up and decided to talk about her
@@agapeagencyofvirginia793 I think the only difference between Joe Gorga and Joe Guidice is that Guidice got caught with his hand in the cookie jar... Joe Gorga has been called a crook a few times on this show so Jennifer saying it should be no surprise...
I love Frank but he’s really the reason everyone is coming at Jen for “digging” when he volunteered the info to Bill. They just want to get at Jen by any means necessary
He should of said something at the dinner instead he let his wife take the heat and just stood in the background he didn't even have her back now he wants to stand up for her what simp
@@deee3950 lol are you sure he forgot. Why hasn’t he still spoken up? I think he knows he messed up but hiding in the background with his hands in his pockets
It’s not Frank’s fault, the dude literally said “Oh I know who that girl is that they’re saying Evan apparently had the affair with”. Jen should’ve just minded her own business not go after other people. She tries way too hard and yea she’s entertaining but it comes across as desperate like when she would get hammered on camera or a couple of seasons ago where she broke the glass and pointed it at Melissa. She’s obviously a hurt individual and for good reason because what she went through is heartbreaking but, calling people crooks and trying to find dirt on other marriages are gonna have repercussions!
He has an over inflated sense of self. He expects Teresa to put him on the same level as her kids and her parents. I love my siblings. But let’s be for real. They’ve hurt her. She does what she can to keep the peace. But that’s a very fine line with him and Melissa. Everyone knows that he didn’t that much when she was away because she said her parents, in laws, and husband did get most. He did what he could post. So they could be seen doing things. I wish Teresa would leave the show. Let them experience to brunt of Andy Cohen and it sink. And go do something else. Because she’s never g going to win with Joey and Melissa.
Look at Jackie's husband thinking he's a big man for coming at someone who clearly doesn't like confrontation. He didn't do that to Pontail's husband when he LIED on him about the affair. He's the one full of it.
I'm glad that Bill defend his wife. That's what you SHOULD do in public, and correct each other's faults in PRIVATE. His loyalty is to his wife, and not to these men who acts like little b*!&h boys.
Evan’s reaction - tell us you actually had an affair without telling us you actually had an affair. Also, Evan telling Bill to control his wife after Jackie said a few seasons back you can’t control your spouse 🥴
- I was thinking the same thing. Aside from Evan allegedly having an affair, he is an incredibly boring and uninteresting person who does not belong on TV.
Why can't anyone see what a snake Teresa is? Remember when she tried to set her sister in law up with that bald guy? She is soooo jealous of Jackie. She's doing what all narcissists do. Get a clue everyone!!
I’m sorry, I do not believe for one second Margaret had no clue. You can tell something happened within their marriage before it came out that Bill had cheated. Jennifer always had said she does not like cheaters and every time her and Margaret had an argument, Jennifer always brought up the fact that Margaret has cheated. That is an obvious sign. I do not condone Jennifer’s behaviour at times but you can tell she is really hurt, especially now that it’s out in the public.
What hurts most is having someone else reveal your private business, publicly. Margaret wants to be the breakout star, and is willing to go to any length to get there.
There is no way in hell that one would have such a serious issue in their house but chose to vilified another woman and her mother about the same topic. Since Jennifer claims that cheating is her issue, why is she not dragging Bill? He is a cheater just like Margaret, isn't it? These housewives need to stop with stupid idea of you can go after someone else family and they will pamper you in return. Those stories in the Bible were centuries ago and Jesus hasn't returned yet, okay? 😀
Exactly. Jen talked shit about Margaret in front of everyone and even brought Margaret's mother into it. Is that ok? Does she owe an apology to her and she started shit about Jackie's husband. Don't feel sorry for her.
Right! And I can totally understand why Jen wouldn’t be thrilled with woman who sleep with other peoples husbands. Obviously it takes two to tango, but I still believe it’s reasonable to look down on sleeping with married people…??? I’m not even hating/judging on that. But it’s not a nice thing to do and if you’re going to choose to be a part of something like that, I think you need to be open to criticism.
So it’s probably best to address the affair and not all of life’s “triggers”, right? Like maybe Jennifer should’ve addressed her concerns to Bill instead of lashing out on Margaret for having an affair that Jennifer had zero to do with?
@@MA1.5 of course but my point is no matter how much time goes by and therapy it will always be in the back of that person's mind. My friend's husband had an affair and they did therapy but every time they argue she brings it up and she is always worried about what he is doing. It's torture.
Agreed! Another point is that Jennifer is mad that the facade has been lifted off of her “perfect life & marriage”. That’s the REAL reason she’s crying. She may have forgiven Bill but now her family and friends know that life’s not so perfect with them. If she decided to stay in marriage with the lifestyle and all then she should stand 10 toes down about it!
And if Margaret didn’t know Jennifer didn’t heal would she really care?? And please stop making Joe the star of the show he is not a housewife he needs to stay out of women’s business. I’m getting so sick of him. And the way they attacked Bill I don’t like them anymore. I could care less if I ever see them again. Except for Frank.
Margaret has ZERO cares and doesn't feel bad what she does to Jennifer, shes a mean girl. Then she picks up on what Delores says about Jennifer's perception and runs with it. Smh
What…. JOE literally had the audacity to say that Bill is smart enough to know his wife is a disaster so apologize to Joe because he doesn’t want to lose this amazing friend lmao. Wtf? Now why the hell would he throw his wife (whose been protecting him) under the bus so he could have a friendship with Joe. Makes no damn sense.
I think he got mad because he did cheat. He still doesn’t know what frank said because Frank hasn’t admitted it yet. I think Evan believes that bill sold him down the river
Because Marge was actually defending Evan, Jen was trying to keep the Evan cheating rumors going by trying to dig up more garbage to spread about Evan! Marge was like enough! Jennifer has taken below the belt shots and has been downright evil to Marge and her Mother, Melissa and Joe, Jackie, and now she's trying to keep her storyline going by digging up crap on Evan! Jennifer doesn't want to put anything out about her personal relationship with Bill except letting everyone know that he's a good husband, and father, and he buys me lots of really good stuff! I can't believe that she thinks this is so below-the-belt with Marge saying the truth about her marriage, when she is so evil and ready to take anyone down! Evan handled the rumor that Teresa spread about him, but he also had to see how upset his wife Jackie was about it, and how it could have destroyed their matriage and their children! He defended himself to Bill when he misspoke about Jennifer not trying to dig up stuff like Marge did about his affair! Bill's Affair came out because Jennifer was trying to dig up stuff about Evan being a cheating husband! Jennifer can't keep going after people like she does and expect to never get it back!
It’s funny how traci can speak on their family issues but when Delores has something to say back a few seasons at the ranch Melissa went back and told Joe Delores and Teresa double teamed her …. I need someone to bring that footage back
Dolores knew the Gorga's way before Melissa was even an after thought so she has all the right to get involved, Traci on the other hand should stay in her lane. everyone knows that when family fights stay out of it if you not blood, it could easily turn on you. I feel Traci is trying real hard to get onto the show even Tiki could not hide his disbelief in that moment that she was getting involved , check his facials out.
@@katokamakazie5549 Hopefully Jennifer will read your statement and learn something from it. She is trying too hard to please Teresa who is a ruthless individual and will her throw away within seconds if it serves her plans. Traci seems to being tested to join the show therefore that gives her every right to have an opinion on it. What she said is true, only the hypocrite Teresa can't see that. She said it herself, she is mad that her brother didn't ripped Margaret head off when she just told Louis how everyone were saying. She hates Melissa so much that she will get her only brother in serious trouble just to get to his wife. It's pathetic!!!
@@katokamakazie5549 Agree comparing traci and dolores way different, dolores is a childhood friend with knowledge of all their history and was a rhonj veteran at that point, Traci is a freshman season friend of so NO! sidebar in that scenario I was still Team Teresa. _how does anyone decide to go on a couples get away on the anniversary of their fathers death ?_ meanwhile I hear it's a huge italian tradition for it to be celebrated, that came across as heedless!!! if I had to place a finger on the initiator between those two it was melissa.
And Evan being so mad about it. That's why he's mad that Jenn was digging. If u didn't cheat, let her dig. He wants this to stop before the truth / proof comes out
I mean anything can cause a relapse.. She's on national television for one. Everyone is seeing this their families..etc that's stressful. We see all this a year after it happens so yeah it probably did make her relapse
@@ED80s he's probably mad because why are strangers digging like that? His bday party was ruined and he's gotta see this wife upset about in real time and again when it airs .. I'd be pissed also ..two seasons of folks messing with my family
Margareth went through worse. She went through a physically abusive marriage. Her cheating was nothing compared to what her ex husband did to her. Beating her up regularly, restraining her and locking her up in the closet. That affair was what probably gave her the courage to leave her abusive ex. Where was Jennifer’s empathy then for Margaret’s situation.
Margaret gets it. It’s Jennifer who portrayed her life & marriage to be perfect! so, one would assume that she had moved past it. Teresa did the same thing and it landed her in jail and a felon.
I think Jen was wrong by calling Joe "a little bish boy" however Joe was acting like one in the moment. He was inserting himself in women's business and got offended by Jen's comment on IG when he should've just ignored her entire beef with his wife. He knows that they go back and forth and that his wife isn't innocent either. He was just trying to insert himself in the drama. It's crazy how the men are trying to make Bill admit his wife is a bad person when non of them would ever say that about their own wives not matter what they do. They're on a reality show non of the wives are innocent so why are they ganging up on Jen and Bill?? the men are showing their true colors being so smug about ganging up on Bill is disgusting and Joe Gorga is the most arrogant and delusional one of them all.
Keep the husbands out of then if she don't want nobody talking about her husband she should not speak on Melissa husband what would you do if another woman coming at your husband when he has nothing to do with our fight SMH then have the nerve to call him a b..ch boy when you called him a crook I won't ignore it either
Agrred marg does'nt care what she says as she likes to hurt people why would she car what jen said about her she brags about her affair and sleeping with her bosses no need to bring something up from 10 yrs ago it was done for a storyline and to hurt jen
Another element that adds to the trauma is being pregnant while she found out. I could not even imagine holding all of that in and not telling anyone. She is strong and she has dealt with a lot of pain on her own. Margaret is out to expose her for being “weak” for staying in her marriage after the affair was exposed on tv. Not Nice!
Margaret is evil , but everyone in her group says Jennifer is for calling them out on their bullshit. Marge tried to make Jennifer look weak but she cause that fans only praise Jennifer for her strength and mature way of dealing with that whole mess , I feel. Marge is your typical white American woman who is ignorant to other cultures beyond her comprehension. Turkish people have very old skul values and family names mean everything to them , Jennifer explains this beautifully on this show but you know what I am 100% sure Margaret still wont get it . Her explanation for doing this makes no sense at all no matter how much times she explains it
I may have been watching a gifferent show. The way I saw it Melissa jumped up and went over to Jennifer and put her hands in Jennifer 's face. I think anyone in that situation woukd of grabbed her wrist. And Margaret wouldn't know how to feel being cheated on, because she was the other woman who broke up a marriage. She dud the cheating.
I think Tre relates to Jennifer. She had that “life” too until her husband messed up in all directions. Joe cheated too and Tre refused to address it or admit to it. Wake up, y’all are on a reality show, the $hit come out.
I get that, but Teresa needs to be consistent in the way she acts. Otherwise she has ZERO right to demand the same blind loyalty. I'm a ginz in my sixties, and I never went for that crap of defending family no matter what, nor did I expect anything but honest feelings and the same behavior toward me. I do not defend bad behavior--someone else's or my own. Can't stand my twin brother and he can't stand me. And we're good with that. To me, loyalty doesn't mean siding with someone just because you're related or are friends. They all need to dispense with that loyalty crap. Unless they're in the Mafia, which would be a whole other situation.
When the betrayed spouse decides to stay with their cheating spouse, it’s usually because they want to protect their children and keep their family intact. That’s why no one should be revealing other peoples’ secrets, especially when cameras are rolling. Marge was completely in the wrong.
@@misscleo378 There’s always deep secrets on these reality shows and they seem to always come out. It’s not always cheating, it could be criminal and worse end up convicted and charged like the Guidice’s.
Tre been knew her Joe Giudice wasn’t worth a hill of beans. She wanted to keep the lifestyle! Same as Jennifer. If either woman had their own money, they would’ve left long time before.
Are Melissa and Joe Gorga really equating a woman who had something to do with Teresa being in prison, to Jen calling Joe a b**** after he inserted himself in the women’s drama?! Joe Gorga giving Peter from RHOA vibes
Bill should have defended Jennifer at her house party. Where was that same energy there? He even told Jennifer that it wasn't his place and then he wants to defend her finally to the guys? Like great. But should have done that earlier!
I’m surprised that Evan didn’t show this “strong” side when Teresa caused a mental breakdown to his wife. Evan was wrong for tying to make Bill say his wife is a bad person. Sadly they only see what is wrong with other people but not their own circle. Marg was wrong for talking about Bill’s affair and doesn’t realize that Jen is going through a lot of suffering and her kids are extremely young. I’m not saying Jen is an Angel but she just has a tone that can be snobby but it’s her personality and lifestyle. They judge her for who she is but don’t reAlize that her culture is completely different. They should attempt to get to know more about her culture before judging.
What was he supposed to do? Give this energy to Teresa? And then everyone would have a problem with Evan going after a woman. He was saying stuff man to man. Way different situation.
I do agree with you and Evan was the one that surprised me he was vicious with someone who chose to walk away from his wife being berated! He was a wimp last season. Joe likes to get involved in woman’s issues and he and his wife act like the big shots who decide who should be outcasted. I am getting sick of this show
Listen Evan cheated that's the truth, thats why he was quiet last season, and now is knuck if you buck with Bill because he feels he has been vindicated, when did the men start getting this involved with the petty drama? Evan was out of line, he should have kept that energy for the person who started his rumors in the first place who is Teresa and even then I know people whould have called him out for going after a woman. Bill has handled himself well so far in my opinion, besides stepping in if things got physical with his wife i'm not sure what people expect from him, if he was backing away that's his business I probably woudn't have at the same time why get involved in screaming matches with women about my infidelity? and yes Joe get's involved waaaaay too much! jen's assessment (as much as I don't like her) was spot on
Funny enough, there was an episode where they were I think at Hamptons or jersey shore and she called Evan to find out if he's heading over and he said "just came from the gym, heading there now". I swear I thought to myself, he's cheating. Then when the rumour came out about cheating at the gym, I wasnt surprised.
He did they're covering it up he has to protect his reputation that's why they covered it up and that why Jackie was having all those nervous break downs all that year. She knew about it a woman knows when her man is, I do feel bad for her because she had her eating disorders because that triggered it but no need to cover it up and Margaret's the one who dug her nosey@ss nose into that one even the Plummer knew about it and gossiped about it to the other men and then later denys it Margaret was the main culprit who dug in Evans business for that info like she did with Bill and threw Teresa under the bus. Teresa covered up for Margret and didn't want to say it at the reunion. It was very clear and obvious! Margaret seems to do that with all the lady's so she can have something to throw back at them if they call her out when she's starts crap on the woman and they backlash she digs her nose in real deep and nasty. That's so wrong she is a trout mouth evioys snake like Danielle says it's ok for her to talk crap and insult people but they can't defend themselves because she will have their heads chopped off "oh how dare they" she will try to destroy those woman. That is so awful of her she need to go.
They have such a vendetta against Jennifer that they can’t see how hypocritical and obnoxious they are being..unless something happens further on in the season I don’t know how this is gonna tip in their favor, they are all slowly but surely digging their rhonj graves
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Jennifer is mean and she took pleasure in spreading the rumor that Jackie’s husband was cheating last Season. All the while knowing her husband was the ACTUAL cheater. Now Jennifer should own it and move on. She had no empathy or sympathy for Jackie. Now she wants to cry me a River.
Joe is so obnoxious and literally has more of a spotlight than his wife. The way they treated Bill demanding him to basically not stick up for his wife. Are they delusional that’s what husband and wife does!
Exactly! They wanted Bill to stick up for them and coddle them over his wife. Marge says and does all kind things and no one has asked Joe to defend them over her.
@@Superstar-he3vr I wish they would not show Joe anymore. His toxic masculinity since episode one is just exhausting. And he is the most dramatic one out of all the girls. It’s like he wants his own show.
@@Ashley-on4ln in case you don’t know. Joe and his sister and the husbands have been the star of the show since they started. New Jersey is the only show where the husbands had their own after show independent of their wives. I love it
Margaret is psychoanalysing Jennifer's marriage inside of taking responsibility for hurting Jennifer with a secret Margaret dug up and used to hurt Jennifer.
@@joileellison8685 oh lord that one thing there is footage of Terese defending Melissa against Jacqueline and siggy for calling her trash. They talk like they have Teresa back oh please
i'm going to focus on marge with this one. Clearly she still doesn't know cheating is hurtful. Jen had a background like that and she did what she learned from it. But her way to protect the marriage and kids need to be respected. By Marge spilled the cheating rumors by not caring how the kids and jen fam will take it, it is another reason why a cheater is selfish and lack of emphaty.
Someone that isn’t happy always wants company! She just isn’t lacking empathy but she also don’t know how to not gossip and mind her own. Guess when your not truly happy life is only exciting when you try to make other’s just as miserable as you are 🤣
@@shaunettehoney3514 precisely! Yet it’s always easier to blame the woman regardless of what the man did. Oh and didn’t Jennifer publicly embarrass Marg and her mama about being “mistresses”? All of this sounds like a spray for a spray.
Jackie’s husband is delusional if he thinks bill will not defend his wife. He’s a freaking cheat. Jackie is crazy to think that there’s nothing to find, the side chick is already speaking out. Evan should get lost.
Jennifer, if your happen to read this, you 100% have my unquestioned loyalty as a viewer. Ya handle this shit like a true human, god dammit. Ya ain’t bending the knee when ya don’t need to, and you shine the brightest with your sense of humor 💫
Listening to Margaret saying that she didn’t know Jennifer never healed from Bill‘s infidelity- i find my self shouting at the screen “You’re a liar”. Now she’s pulling back because she's getting backlash from the viewers. Margaret knowingly told of Bill's infidelity and did not care one bit that it was going to hurt the children and it did. She’s mean and unhappy. Margaret told everyone about how she slept with her bosses to get ahead, about her infidelity, etc., etc. she told it all. It was fair game for anyone to bring it up. Bill's infidelity was not known to anyone until Margaret told everyone. Now she’s trying to back out of it. Too late! She always says, “everyone knew about it”, “everyone is talking about it” “it was out there for years”. No, it wasn’t- you’re the one who told.
I love you jenneifer. Id gladly come to jersey shore and give them b-tcges a true new york -ss wooping. Nothing like a good ole new york dragging. Stay strong. Keep your head high
Thats the problem I have with Margaret. People that go through those affairs never fully heal from that so her going around and just flaunting her affairs and her mothers affairs is very hurtful and triggering
It was uncalled for Jenn to bring up Margaret's mom though. If she has a problem with Margaret then stick to her bashing her the gloves come off at the point I would go at her too if she was talking crap about my mom. Jenn didn't like it when her husband was called out for being just like Margaret and she felt it was unnecessary to bring him into their fight. She is extremely hypocritical, judgmental and entitled.
Margaret didn't brag or boast. She talked about how it was wrong how her relationship with the kids is still suffering. The fact that she said it before the tabloids or some expose her really makes everyone think she bragged. She didn't she shared her story. You don't think it would have come out since her and Joe are still together
@@queensugar4953 Hush! Trout brought up her MOM on national TV, you cannot and I repeat cannot police peoples reactions to the stories you tell them, then get mad! She didnt talk crap about her mom, she basically said it WAS NORMALIZED... which it was!
@@queensugar4953 I hear what you are saying... but I dont think Jenn brought up her mom to talk about her, more so to reference you grew up in an immoral disrespectful situation. It's the way she portrayed her affair that was distasteful. It was more than just telling her story. To have affairs and especially long term affairs is a very selfish act. The people involved aren't thinking about the people they could be hurting by their selfish actions. Also remember its not just the affair its the lengths that they go to to creates the opportunity to cheat that is especially hurtful as well
Exactly, Marge wouldn't know since SHE IS THE OTHER WOMAN and SHE IS THE ONE THAT CHEATED. How gross that Margaret is! Then she plays innocent "oops I didn't know". She knew exactly what she was doing.
No you never do just get over it. And it happy all the time. And when you stay you are saying you will move forward. You don’t get more weight for waiting ten years to use it for a storyline.
Regarding infidelity: I once read about a 90-something Italian woman who still had not forgiven her husband for cheating - and he’d been dead for 50 years.
Agreed!! Margaret fails to realize that Jennifer isn’t the one who cheated. No woman is going to condone cheating and speaking like it’s something to be proud of. Joe Gorga is not a real man stay out of women’s fights.
You can't dictate how a anyone responds to you, regardless of who starts it. Cause i know I am vicious. I am dragging your mom, dad, kids, your cat, your dog. No one is off-limits. I don't go high, I go to hell..meet me there
@@cloroxbleach3757 Ummmm I’m talking about her interaction with the ladies, specifically Marge. She crucifies Marge for being a cheater for seasons, but she herself stayed with a cheater (Bill) and never held HIM accountable ! 🙄 She constantly brags about Bill being the best thing since Jesus, but all this time he was cheater. I love Jen, but her life isn’t nearly as perfect as she tries to portray!
The Gorgas chose Danielle over Teresa (earlier seasons), the Manzos, Jackie, and Marge. Melissa thinks she’s slick, but she “plays”, at placating and supporting Tre to wrong foot her. How she can compare sticking up for Tre when she was facing something as serious as prison, to being called “crooked”, in a post by someone you had started a war of words with, is beyond me!!!
It’s called housewives for a reason I’m tired of Melissa needing joe for her storyline and present in the show And Jackie boring af with her side talking mouth
Well, Teresa isn’t a housewife. I’m tired of her BS “loyalty” storyline. That’s all she has and it only goes one way. She’s a POS and I’m hoping she goes down a second time with her new conartist lover.
Well Joe is her spouse. Yes it called housewives so they are showing her being a wife and who she is a wife to. So he is very much apart of her story line. They are normal people, and normal people are not going to be having drama filled exciting situations every day. So it may come across boring but unless they make shit up most people lead very uneventful normal lives. Maybe you need them to make shit up to entertain you since your life must be so exiting, non stop action.
I'm pretty sure if someone else had a friend that tried to "give advice" to Melissa, Melissa would have been the same way putting them in their place. You can't think you're 100% within the group when you are just one person's friend and in some scenes. Traci needs to keep her mouth shut and that is that.
Joe said that he would distance himself from his friends if Teresa didn’t like them but they are still best friends with Jackie. Last season Jackie made multiple comments about Teresa being in jail and Gia and not once did they stand up for her, tell Jackie she was wrong or stop being best friends with her. I love Joe but him and Melissa are definitely hypocrites.
Teresa was in jail. Jackie didn't run around telling lies on Teresa. First Teresa ran around telling ppl Melissa was a stripper then she ran around telling ppl Evan was cheating on Jackie.
Jennifer is the only reason why I still watch. The girls are all hypocritical bullies ganging up on Jen cause she speaks truth and. But she stands her ground and is not afraid of any of them, I love it. Also Joe needs to be a housewife I guess because he’s so desperate for the spotlight. It’s cringe.
😂😂 Next season... Joe the Housewife. Marge needs to wipe off the green hue of envy. Jen is young, pretty and just as feisty as her. Leave Jenn alone. Also stop pulling Theresa out of her magic bubble. She don't want to. LOL
Kareem, same here. Marge Sr. & Margaret triggered Jennifer. She saw them both for what they were side pieces. That would really irritate me if a woman thought it a "cute story" about being a home wrecker? Sleeping with the contractor your husband is paying? :::ugh::::
I liked Joseph, Joe and Even but they seemed to be feeding each others ego at the expense of Bill and Jennifer. I really like the guys on NJ but my fav is Frank what a great guy, hes genuine.
All the women, sans Teresa and Dolores and the men, except for Luis and Frank, have gone behind Jen and Bill's backs to conspire against them. Their goal is to single them out so they're no longer gelling with the respective men and women, which will lead to Jennifer becoming a 'Friend' or getting booted altogether.
Melissa talking about hypocrisy is wild to me because they have been pushing this narrative for soooo long that Teresa doesn’t stand up for her, and she’s a soldier for Teresa. At this point she has even bought into that narrative, but the only example she could provide was from season 3!!!! Meanwhile, as recent as THIS season, she’s gossiping behind Teresa’s back. She is bringing to light phone conversations that Teresa had with Joe privately to squash issues and keep the peace. So, yeah, maybe Teresa doesn’t throw herself in front of a bus for Melissa and tell all of Teresa’s friends to eff off for talking about Melissa because she knows that if she did that she would be left standing alone in the dust, while Melissa is over there in the corner snickering to her friends, tweedledee and tweedledum about Teresa’s private business. Loyalty is also shown through silence and keeping private business private. It’s unreasonable to expect someone to be a shield for you to protect you from ever receiving any criticism for your actions, but by Teresa not getting involved (when we KNOW Melissa would get involved in any discussion or confrontation with Teresa as a fake voice of reason), that is loyalty. Stop doing bad things to people and then expect Teresa to isolate herself from everyone defending you. Answer for yourself and no body else, like Teresa. I don’t get how Melissa doesn’t get that
Teresa is a toxic narcissist with double standards. Teresa uses her faux loyalty narrative to manipulate everyone. Melissa brings up loyalty to Teresa constantly because to point out what a hypocrite T is. She has a different set of rules for everyone else. Some fans blindness to this astounding.
Jersey is the GOAT as far as I'm concerned in the RH franchise!!! Their familial & life-long friend dynamics make it beyond real & something that can't b replicated!
I think Jennifer also comes from a different culture where they look at those things as shame to the entire family. It's different for her than American women.
@@goosemother4224 No. That is not what I said. I said culturally it's a different experience for her. She didnt even tell her sister or friends. Calm the fu*k down.
So proud of Bill (Jennifer)for walking off when Joe and Jackie husband began to attack Jennifer character. Like I have said before Jennifer never starts the fight and when she responds back…She is the villain 🦹♀️. I call bull. Jennifer husband has to much to lose arguing with these men. He don’t need the show and proved it yesterday. Proud Proud of Him. That scene yesterday with the men was so tacky, booooo bravo…it looked very thirsty .
When did this become the Real Husbands show? I am so uninterested in Joe moaning once again about Teresa. Can we move on please? And Melissa is completely pointless too!!
Jackie and Evan are both pick me types and that's what they relate on. 2 weak personalities who feed off the energy around them to fit in. Jus ridiculous
Melissa the roles were reversed for 2 seasons as well as others. Where Jackie literally is throwing Teresa jail stint in her face. Regardless of the loss of her mom and Dad. Melissa and Joe instead choose to be close to Jackie. The double standard comes from Melissa and Joe, not Tre.
I imagine that it is a terrible thing to go through. For Dolores to put it there about the Aydin’s was a horrible thing to do. We she was the “other woman”. She is heartless.
I love how they talk behind each other's back on camera. So precious. And why are they talking about someone else's marriage. Why don't they mind their own f****** business. This is sickening.
Oh PLEASE! When has Melissa ever stood up for Theresa? She's on Jackie's & Margaret's side each & every time! The Gorgas are full if sh*t! No storyline Melissa, Jackie Margaret need to GO! Joe Gorga has had rumors out there about his shady business dealings... So......... If it's not true, you don't give a rats behind. But, if there's smoke, there's usually a 🔥 and that burns. And Evan cheated!
Melissa was friends with Jackie when Jackie was in her first season and Jackie was giving opinions about Teresa's jail situation,Melissa didn't stop being friends with Jackie,and Teresa was fuming,and Jackie was saying Teresa didn't write her own books 🙄
Those other b*****s are bitterly jealous. Margaret and Melissa's entire goal is to provoke Jennifer at every opportunity so Jen will react. Eventually, they'll isolate Jennifer to the point where she's "no longer gelling with the other girls." It's going to be another Jacqueline or Danielle type of situation.
Yeah at first I thought they didn’t like her bc she has her foot in her mouth a lot. But they mention her “luxurious lifestyle” more than Jen has at this point.
I have been eople those 2 are jealous of Jen! Melissa came on this show boasting from day 1, now she sees someone living a true life of luxury ! As for Marg she slept her way to whatever she has now and ended up with the plumber ( who is afraid of her); she obviously wanted better! She will take Bill in a heartbeat if he was interested in her at all !
How are they forgetting that Margaret was the one that started the rumor of Joe not paying people. Everything Jen throws out at everyone to insult them all came from someone else in her ear.
I can’t understand how Joe and Melissa try to act like the best people in the world we see them on TV talk about Teresawe see them cut Teresa screw on TV with their friends
I believe Evan cheated and that's why Jackie is starving herself once again when it all hits the fan and the truth comes out I hope Jackie will be eating
Look at him…He DEF cheated!!! He is wayyyy out of her league & I’m SURE he gets lots of attention. They live 5 minutes from me in Tenafly NJ & I know women who find him attractive!
@@dimitroulak.5295 There’s nothing wrong with his looks but I’m just not attracted to it. The eye of the beholder thing is true. Jackie is highly educated like her husband so I don’t know why people say she’s beneath him. She’s at home with her kids because she can and is lucky to have the choice.
three mean girls and their boring husbands attacking the Aydins nonstop, they have one storyline between the three of them and the rest is just high school gossip about tre + jen
Margaret is more like a psycho. She forgets why her step children don't speak to her because she cheated many times. Margaret needs to shut the hell up alongside Jackie and Melissa. Plus Melissa act's like a tough girl but she is not. She only cares about herself and being self absorbed. Joe and Melissa never defend Teresa but when Teresa doesn't defend them they get mad. Brother's and sister's need to have each other's backs. My sister and i always have each other's backs. That's what a family does. They do not tear each other down.
Bill and Jennifer are from a different culture than these others couples. They are great parents. Evans's issue was not with Bill. Joe should stay out of the women’s issue! He needs to be brought in as a housewife.
@@judymurray191 don't use my child in any analogy that involves them doing drugs... I'm standing right in front of you, why not use my name? Cause you wanted to be as malicious and disgusting as possible. It had nothing to do with a point. It was meant as an attack. I'm not Teresa. I'm not stupid. I know how to explain why that shit was fucked up
I cannot wait for Teresa to shove all the cups in Margaret face. Marge is always in someone business . It’s like she HAS to know what everyone is doing
I usually like Evan, but damn telling Bill to get lost, go away etc., like WTH, did Evan have that same heat towards Joe Gorga, whose sister brought up the rumours, lol. I like Bill, Frank, Jen, Dolores and Teresa, forget the others. Lastly, it was Joe Margarets Lil man who confirmed Evans rumour looool
Melissas so funny when she goes on her frantic rages. "Yoooouve got the wroooong one, you dont want this" 😂😂 Girl you cant even fight a fly, sit down lol
i feel like dolores is a half friend. i’ve noticed this about her from the last two/three seasons. she says what the crowd in the room wants to hear at the moment
Dolores tries to play both sides and to me whenever she says anything comes off as disingenuous because she turns around and switches it up to make the other party happy.
Jennifer has trauma like any woman would have from the cheating, on another level the cheating while at her most vulnerable time while pregnant. I think the reason she stayed is also because she has such a traditional marriage within her culture arranged. Deloris and Teresa also can relate because they too were cheated on. Grace should be given but lines do need to be drawn on attacking others. On the same side, Margaret put her affair on blast and should respect that children are involved. Margaret being the other woman in many relationships will be a trigger just her existence within the group and how unashamedly she blasts her affairs. Oil and water.
Yet Jennifer was digging for information about Evans affair. Ofcourse she wanted to use that information to put Jackie and Evans on blast. Jennifer had it coming. She is not a nice person. She uses what people say to her in confidence to hurt them.
@@chinezeolisah1308 agree, Jennifer is culpable for trying to expose or dig into something that is none of her business. However it wasn’t Margaret’s responsibility to disclose or bring up anyones dirty laundry. If Margaret doesn’t want anyone to think or look down on her affairs, she shouldn’t bring them up. Jennifer like so many women, Teresa included, have a tendency to strike out at people when they have been hurt or wronged. It’s not right as it’s misdirected anger. However, the real victims are the small children who have to be teased and talked about because their family infidelity issues are exposed.
Jennifer wanted to maintain that lifestyle. She wouldn’t have been able to stay at home with her children and still shop the way she does if she got divorced.
@@twoelles1056possibly , if you have an arraigned marriage and if you stick to your cultural and religious reasoning and culturally someone has been picked out for you- you don’t look at divorce as an option. Just my 2 cents, I’m a first generation American from my mothers side. My grandparents had an arranged marriage…it’s a different lifestyle and family values. They would never have dreamed of getting a divorce, they also wouldn’t be on National TV airing anything. Jennifer is a doing many things that culturally are taboo. I am far removed and not considered by my mothers family as “one of them” I am and always have been an outsider but I can look at the cultural restrictions and feel for them.
@@catherinejoyner2480 I agree with you. My only counter is that Jennifer may follow certain practices from her culture but she’s far from traditional. And based on her response, the first reason she gave for staying was for the lifestyle. If I recall correctly, love and family was at the end of the list.
Melissa and joe need some tissues and a harden up pill. They can’t expect tre to stick up for them when they don’t stick up for her. Yeah you are the dishrack. Expect a dishrack doesn’t take photos of someone else’s work and try to take credit for it lol
Come on Joe? Jackie stayed at your house after that big fight with Teresa. You didn't stick up for her at the table remember when Jackie told her ( did you get your confidence from jail) Joe likes attention. You don't distance yourself from ppl that have a problem with Teresa. You invite them to your beach house and dinner table. lol
To me Evan went after Bill instead of Theresa and Frank, because he knows they will go toe to toe with him, and Bill who has more to lose will either take it or walk away!!!!!
1. I wish Jennifer would go to therapy to get the tools for healing 2. I wish the men would not be taking up the screen more than the actual housewives
It looks lile Joe Gorga has deep rooted issues with his family that he never addressed & he victimizes himself constantly. Joe, you are no saint. You came onto the show a hurt man & you’re now trying to gain sympathy on a situation that doesn’t warrant it. He and Melissa are really start a lot of issues, but can never take responsibilty for their part in anything. Every time Joe goes on about how his family treats him I play the world’s smallest violin. He and Melissa know how to control a narrative well, i’ll give them that. However, I see through the constant whining and passive aggression.
No one heals from an affair. Even if they forgive… they never forget. You have to choose to love the person every day even after the betrayal. Distrust is always in the back of your mind. Margaret doesn’t understand that, because she was person having the affair.
You are spot on..I try to love my person through my feelings of betrayal, and sometimes you don’t feel like loving them. Sometimes words or actions trigger that memory and here come the water works..especially if the affair developed into a relationship 😔. You don’t heal, you learn how to cope.
@@sharjohn84 I agree! They act like she isn’t strong. I don’t think it’s weak to stay. I think it takes strength to stay and try for your kids. As long as the person is contrite and truly changed. I support women who stay or leave. Whatever they can live with is the right decision ❤️
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@@Swierpdidilyerp Yes! It’s not an easy decision, no matter what choice you make
I know I'll be criticized for saying this, but I personally couldn't live with a husband if he was unfaithful. The only way I could ever consider it would be if I stepped out, too, because then you're on equal footing. The pain of imagining the person with someone else would be canceled out. For me. That's just me. Without kids in the picture, my truer instinct would be to say arrivederci.
If the kids that Margaret raised don't talk to her and they haven't forgave her for the affair she had till this day what makes her think Jennifer has healed.
Good point
You are so right!
That!!
It's a bit different.
@@mykoniichistorychannel it is different but also shows Margaret's lack of empathy and ignorance to the pain that cheating can cause.
Joe needs to shut up! He defends Melissa against his own family but sitting there judging Bill for defending his wife.
Big facts
I remember last season Melissa wrote a nasty post about Jennifer and then Joe said something nasty in her comments about Jen so Jen retaliated. And now the Gorgas are playing victim and keep talking about the stupid crook comment.
And producers are allowing them to play this role! How are you mad at people for reading you to filth when YOU initiated it?! Make it make sense.
Melissa wrote a post responding to Jeniffers tweet about her and her husband. Why don’t you include that! She didn’t just wake up and decided to talk about her
Right. You can’t hit someone and tell the how to respond.
@@questenbenjamin9597 👏👏👏
@@Sheisruthless_ no when the reunion aired Melissa wrote something about Jen and Jen responded back
Joe is so upset over being called a crook because it’s true 😂
Big facts 😂😂
He wants to be Nothing like Tres ex
Margaret said he didn’t pay people for jobs but I guess that’s okay 🤪🤪
@@agapeagencyofvirginia793 I think the only difference between Joe Gorga and Joe Guidice is that Guidice got caught with his hand in the cookie jar... Joe Gorga has been called a crook a few times on this show so Jennifer saying it should be no surprise...
Listennnn!
I love Frank but he’s really the reason everyone is coming at Jen for “digging” when he volunteered the info to Bill. They just want to get at Jen by any means necessary
He should of said something at the dinner instead he let his wife take the heat and just stood in the background he didn't even have her back now he wants to stand up for her what simp
Exactly. Frank told Bill. Forgot. Then ran around like the info was brand new
@@wandaerving3065 he’s a simp for standing up for her but you wanted him to do it sooner?
@@deee3950 lol are you sure he forgot. Why hasn’t he still spoken up? I think he knows he messed up but hiding in the background with his hands in his pockets
It’s not Frank’s fault, the dude literally said “Oh I know who that girl is that they’re saying Evan apparently had the affair with”. Jen should’ve just minded her own business not go after other people. She tries way too hard and yea she’s entertaining but it comes across as desperate like when she would get hammered on camera or a couple of seasons ago where she broke the glass and pointed it at Melissa. She’s obviously a hurt individual and for good reason because what she went through is heartbreaking but, calling people crooks and trying to find dirt on other marriages are gonna have repercussions!
Does Joe Gorga really expect Bill to pick him over his wife???
That was an air head moment for Joe. You can tell he’s not educated at all.
Where's Joe apology to bill for Melissa CHARGING hand out at Jennifer? That's worse than being kicked out of someone's house
He has an over inflated sense of self. He expects Teresa to put him on the same level as her kids and her parents. I love my siblings. But let’s be for real. They’ve hurt her. She does what she can to keep the peace. But that’s a very fine line with him and Melissa. Everyone knows that he didn’t that much when she was away because she said her parents, in laws, and husband did get most. He did what he could post. So they could be seen doing things. I wish Teresa would leave the show. Let them experience to brunt of Andy Cohen and it sink. And go do something else. Because she’s never g going to win with Joey and Melissa.
It seems so.
Bill didn’t even stand up for his wife. He just ran because he doesn’t like confrontation.
Did the guys really expect Bill to side with them over his wife?!?!
If Evan had that much of a problem with Bill and Jennifer, he should’ve said so before they invited him out
I agree. I think Evan and Jackie may be sneaky...hide their true feelings...we sure saw some of Evans
I don’t understand why nobody has a problem with Margaret husband because he verified the rumors about Evan cheating.
He's trying to be part of the wolf pack... but he gives me daffy duck on a rant energy
@@johannawigg6921 lmao
Mj fuller where do you live my name was Josephine fuller I live in Ireland 🇮🇪
Evan’s behaviour makes me believe that maybe the affair rumour was more than just a rumour.
Right, and it could be that Jackie cheated…someone in that duo did something bad..
You said it!! I was thinking the same.
Right
Oh I 100% believe he cheated with the trainer. Frank and Tre work out together so they both know!
You can always tell by the over-reaction, Evan has got (Guilty) all over him
Look at Jackie's husband thinking he's a big man for coming at someone who clearly doesn't like confrontation. He didn't do that to Pontail's husband when he LIED on him about the affair. He's the one full of it.
Good point
Just like his wife a follower ☺️
He wouldnt confront Tre but can confront someone once they have their back turned ready to leave lol...
I think you are absolutely right about Evan...100 %
@@sowsowcool2586 you’re so right. And what Trè said was way worse.
Melissa loves to play the… I’m a good person and don’t like drama. Nah YOU love it and also start it a lot
I'm glad that Bill defend his wife. That's what you SHOULD do in public, and correct each other's faults in PRIVATE. His loyalty is to his wife, and not to these men who acts like little b*!&h boys.
Evan’s reaction - tell us you actually had an affair without telling us you actually had an affair. Also, Evan telling Bill to control his wife after Jackie said a few seasons back you can’t control your spouse 🥴
lol love this i hope this comment gets more likes and that bravo really reads them bcuz this is spot on
Good point. Especially the control your wife part love it.
- I was thinking the same thing.
Aside from Evan allegedly having an affair, he is an incredibly boring and uninteresting person who does not belong on TV.
Yes
Why can't anyone see what a snake Teresa is? Remember when she tried to set her sister in law up with that bald guy? She is soooo jealous of Jackie. She's doing what all narcissists do. Get a clue everyone!!
I’m sorry, I do not believe for one second Margaret had no clue. You can tell something happened within their marriage before it came out that Bill had cheated. Jennifer always had said she does not like cheaters and every time her and Margaret had an argument, Jennifer always brought up the fact that Margaret has cheated. That is an obvious sign. I do not condone Jennifer’s behaviour at times but you can tell she is really hurt, especially now that it’s out in the public.
What hurts most is having someone else reveal your private business, publicly. Margaret wants to be the breakout star, and is willing to go to any length to get there.
There is no way in hell that one would have such a serious issue in their house but chose to vilified another woman and her mother about the same topic. Since Jennifer claims that cheating is her issue, why is she not dragging Bill? He is a cheater just like Margaret, isn't it? These housewives need to stop with stupid idea of you can go after someone else family and they will pamper you in return. Those stories in the Bible were centuries ago and Jesus hasn't returned yet, okay? 😀
Exactly. Jen talked shit about Margaret in front of everyone and even brought Margaret's mother into it. Is that ok? Does she owe an apology to her and she started shit about Jackie's husband. Don't feel sorry for her.
Right! And I can totally understand why Jen wouldn’t be thrilled with woman who sleep with other peoples husbands. Obviously it takes two to tango, but I still believe it’s reasonable to look down on sleeping with married people…??? I’m not even hating/judging on that. But it’s not a nice thing to do and if you’re going to choose to be a part of something like that, I think you need to be open to criticism.
Margret brought her own mother into it that's why we don't see her much and why margret shuts her mother up and doesn't let her speak
Bill didn't kick Joe out the house. Jennifer kicked Melissa out of the house.
Big facts
Good for Jennifer. Melissa is trash
No one ever truly heals from an affair. It's always in the back of their mind. Something will always remind you of the affair.
So it’s probably best to address the affair and not all of life’s “triggers”, right? Like maybe Jennifer should’ve addressed her concerns to Bill instead of lashing out on Margaret for having an affair that Jennifer had zero to do with?
@@MA1.5 of course but my point is no matter how much time goes by and therapy it will always be in the back of that person's mind. My friend's husband had an affair and they did therapy but every time they argue she brings it up and she is always worried about what he is doing. It's torture.
Agree!
@@MA1.5 That part.
Agreed! Another point is that Jennifer is mad that the facade has been lifted off of her “perfect life & marriage”. That’s the REAL reason she’s crying. She may have forgiven Bill but now her family and friends know that life’s not so perfect with them. If she decided to stay in marriage with the lifestyle and all then she should stand 10 toes down about it!
She wasn’t digging. Margaret husband is the source of the information Jackie.
And if Margaret didn’t know Jennifer didn’t heal would she really care?? And please stop making Joe the star of the show he is not a housewife he needs to stay out of women’s business. I’m getting so sick of him. And the way they attacked Bill I don’t like them anymore. I could care less if I ever see them again. Except for Frank.
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Yup!!!!!
Margaret has ZERO cares and doesn't feel bad what she does to Jennifer, shes a mean girl. Then she picks up on what Delores says about Jennifer's perception and runs with it. Smh
@@beekeeper11 Its OK for Jennifer!!!
THIS!!!👏👏🙌
Joe newsflash, you were labeled as a crook on GMA, that’s much worse than Jennifer posting about it.
Know for a fact Joe doesn’t pay people what he owes them when they do work for him
Jennifer was spot on about Joe. Iconic.
What…. JOE literally had the audacity to say that Bill is smart enough to know his wife is a disaster so apologize to Joe because he doesn’t want to lose this amazing friend lmao. Wtf? Now why the hell would he throw his wife (whose been protecting him) under the bus so he could have a friendship with Joe. Makes no damn sense.
Yeah, like Joe would pick his friends over Melissa. That’s so stupid.
Right!
And when he went on that rent about being a dr and going to college. Your not funny.
when i heard that my jaw dropped tbh..... he has a god complex something is wrong with him
My thoughts exactly
So if Evan is mad and thinks Jen is not a good person digging stuff up then why doesn't he say the same about Marge?
I think he got mad because he did cheat. He still doesn’t know what frank said because Frank hasn’t admitted it yet. I think Evan believes that bill sold him down the river
He did cheat! Karma is real. He should have sat this one out. Because his cheating will come out, this time, it won't be alleged cheating
Word!
She didn't dig.
Because Marge was actually defending Evan, Jen was trying to keep the Evan cheating rumors going by trying to dig up more garbage to spread about Evan! Marge was like enough! Jennifer has taken below the belt shots and has been downright evil to Marge and her Mother, Melissa and Joe, Jackie, and now she's trying to keep her storyline going by digging up crap on Evan! Jennifer doesn't want to put anything out about her personal relationship with Bill except letting everyone know that he's a good husband, and father, and he buys me lots of really good stuff! I can't believe that she thinks this is so below-the-belt with Marge saying the truth about her marriage, when she is so evil and ready to take anyone down! Evan handled the rumor that Teresa spread about him, but he also had to see how upset his wife Jackie was about it, and how it could have destroyed their matriage and their children! He defended himself to Bill when he misspoke about Jennifer not trying to dig up stuff like Marge did about his affair! Bill's Affair came out because Jennifer was trying to dig up stuff about Evan being a cheating husband! Jennifer can't keep going after people like she does and expect to never get it back!
Joe, if you have to say your a nice guy your not really a nice guy. Bill stays out of the drama and the ambush towards him at dinner was lame.
i don't like how the husbands are ganging up on Bill the way the ladies alienate Jennifer.
Here we go! The Aydins are being “bullied”! 😂😂
I agree
@@coillest8628 🤣🤣🤣
@@coillest8628 Exactly! Such bs!
It’s funny how traci can speak on their family issues but when Delores has something to say back a few seasons at the ranch Melissa went back and told Joe Delores and Teresa double teamed her …. I need someone to bring that footage back
Traci told Teresa herself. Joe wasn't there when Dolores made those comments. Either way, if you don't to hear then maybe reality TV isn't for you xx
I wanted Traci to shut up too. I wish they hold find more comedic “friend of’s” rather than the same boring skinny girls over and over lol
Dolores knew the Gorga's way before Melissa was even an after thought so she has all the right to get involved, Traci on the other hand should stay in her lane. everyone knows that when family fights stay out of it if you not blood, it could easily turn on you. I feel Traci is trying real hard to get onto the show even Tiki could not hide his disbelief in that moment that she was getting involved , check his facials out.
@@katokamakazie5549
Hopefully Jennifer will read your statement and learn something from it. She is trying too hard to please Teresa who is a ruthless individual and will her throw away within seconds if it serves her plans. Traci seems to being tested to join the show therefore that gives her every right to have an opinion on it. What she said is true, only the hypocrite Teresa can't see that. She said it herself, she is mad that her brother didn't ripped Margaret head off when she just told Louis how everyone were saying. She hates Melissa so much that she will get her only brother in serious trouble just to get to his wife. It's pathetic!!!
@@katokamakazie5549 Agree comparing traci and dolores way different, dolores is a childhood friend with knowledge of all their history and was a rhonj veteran at that point, Traci is a freshman season friend of so NO! sidebar in that scenario I was still Team Teresa. _how does anyone decide to go on a couples get away on the anniversary of their fathers death ?_ meanwhile I hear it's a huge italian tradition for it to be celebrated, that came across as heedless!!! if I had to place a finger on the initiator between those two it was melissa.
I still believed Evan cheated. The way Jackie responded thoughout last season. Then having a 'relapse' in her eating disorder.
And Evan being so mad about it. That's why he's mad that Jenn was digging. If u didn't cheat, let her dig. He wants this to stop before the truth / proof comes out
@@ED80s For sure!!
I mean anything can cause a relapse.. She's on national television for one. Everyone is seeing this their families..etc that's stressful. We see all this a year after it happens so yeah it probably did make her relapse
@@ED80s he's probably mad because why are strangers digging like that? His bday party was ruined and he's gotta see this wife upset about in real time and again when it airs .. I'd be pissed also ..two seasons of folks messing with my family
I thought that too if i knew 💯 my husband wasn’t i would laugh it off. That triggered her
Margaret doesn’t get it because she will always be the mistress. She would only get jennifer if her husband cheated on her.
Her husband cheated with her he was with someone else he an Marge cheated together now they together an married 🤷
Margareth went through worse. She went through a physically abusive marriage. Her cheating was nothing compared to what her ex husband did to her. Beating her up regularly, restraining her and locking her up in the closet. That affair was what probably gave her the courage to leave her abusive ex. Where was Jennifer’s empathy then for Margaret’s situation.
Margaret was the main cheater.
You would think at her age she would be more mature and understanding. 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Margaret gets it. It’s Jennifer who portrayed her life & marriage to be perfect! so, one would assume that she had moved past it. Teresa did the same thing and it landed her in jail and a felon.
I think Jen was wrong by calling Joe "a little bish boy" however Joe was acting like one in the moment. He was inserting himself in women's business and got offended by Jen's comment on IG when he should've just ignored her entire beef with his wife. He knows that they go back and forth and that his wife isn't innocent either. He was just trying to insert himself in the drama. It's crazy how the men are trying to make Bill admit his wife is a bad person when non of them would ever say that about their own wives not matter what they do. They're on a reality show non of the wives are innocent so why are they ganging up on Jen and Bill?? the men are showing their true colors being so smug about ganging up on Bill is disgusting and Joe Gorga is the most arrogant and delusional one of them all.
Keep the husbands out of then if she don't want nobody talking about her husband she should not speak on Melissa husband what would you do if another woman coming at your husband when he has nothing to do with our fight SMH then have the nerve to call him a b..ch boy when you called him a crook I won't ignore it either
I used to like him now I just think he's a pig
@@wandaerving3065 he replied and commented first. So Jen retaliated.
Both are wrong.
Agrred marg does'nt care what she says as she likes to hurt people why would she car what jen said about her she brags about her affair and sleeping with her bosses no need to bring something up from 10 yrs ago it was done for a storyline and to hurt jen
Thank U!!
Another element that adds to the trauma is being pregnant while she found out. I could not even imagine holding all of that in and not telling anyone. She is strong and she has dealt with a lot of pain on her own. Margaret is out to expose her for being “weak” for staying in her marriage after the affair was exposed on tv. Not Nice!
Margaret is evil , but everyone in her group says Jennifer is for calling them out on their bullshit. Marge tried to make Jennifer look weak but she cause that fans only praise Jennifer for her strength and mature way of dealing with that whole mess , I feel. Marge is your typical white American woman who is ignorant to other cultures beyond her comprehension. Turkish people have very old skul values and family names mean everything to them , Jennifer explains this beautifully on this show but you know what I am 100% sure Margaret still wont get it . Her explanation for doing this makes no sense at all no matter how much times she explains it
Margaret would have done the SAME thing! We know everything she does is for CLOUT. Further all the shi she has done she needs to keep her mouth SHUT!
@@katokamakazie5549 Margaret is Hungarian. Her and her mother are immigrants as well. Isn't hungary near turkey ?
Another element that adds to trauma is tolerating and dealing with the BS
I may have been watching a gifferent show. The way I saw it Melissa jumped up and went over to Jennifer and put her hands in Jennifer 's face. I think anyone in that situation woukd of grabbed her wrist. And Margaret wouldn't know how to feel being cheated on, because she was the other woman who broke up a marriage. She dud the cheating.
I just wanna know why the Gorgas want sooo much defense and support when every opportunity Teresa isn’t there they’re sitting taking about Louie.
Thank you!!!
SO TRUE!!!!!!
Exactly
Exactly!
And the didn’t defend Teresa when Jackie made all those mean comments about her and Joe getting locked up last season!
"We're not going to tell someone not to be friends with someone" THATS LITERALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING? 😭😂😩
Melissa definitely doesn’t like Teresa just stop pretending
For real.
Would you?? I wouldn't. Teresa pulled alot of crap on Melissa
@@rosemarygaeta8205 vise versa
Exactly!
Why should she? Teresa and her “family” bullshit when she NEVER reciprocates it. Never.
I think Tre relates to Jennifer. She had that “life” too until her husband messed up in all directions. Joe cheated too and Tre refused to address it or admit to it. Wake up, y’all are on a reality show, the $hit come out.
I get that, but Teresa needs to be consistent in the way she acts. Otherwise she has ZERO right to demand the same blind loyalty. I'm a ginz in my sixties, and I never went for that crap of defending family no matter what, nor did I expect anything but honest feelings and the same behavior toward me. I do not defend bad behavior--someone else's or my own. Can't stand my twin brother and he can't stand me. And we're good with that. To me, loyalty doesn't mean siding with someone just because you're related or are friends. They all need to dispense with that loyalty crap. Unless they're in the Mafia, which would be a whole other situation.
When the betrayed spouse decides to stay with their cheating spouse, it’s usually because they want to protect their children and keep their family intact. That’s why no one should be revealing other peoples’ secrets, especially when cameras are rolling. Marge was completely in the wrong.
@@misscleo378 There’s always deep secrets on these reality shows and they seem to always come out. It’s not always cheating, it could be criminal and worse end up convicted and charged like the Guidice’s.
@@misscleo378 Damn right!
Tre been knew her Joe Giudice wasn’t worth a hill of beans. She wanted to keep the lifestyle! Same as Jennifer. If either woman had their own money, they would’ve left long time before.
Are Melissa and Joe Gorga really equating a woman who had something to do with Teresa being in prison, to Jen calling Joe a b**** after he inserted himself in the women’s drama?! Joe Gorga giving Peter from RHOA vibes
Exactly
I'm happy that bill backed his wife up at dinner and left. I love Jennifer too bad it wasn't Margaret she was fighting with
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He has no choice.😆
Bill should have defended Jennifer at her house party. Where was that same energy there? He even told Jennifer that it wasn't his place and then he wants to defend her finally to the guys? Like great. But should have done that earlier!
@@brittanyisabel I agree!
I’m surprised that Evan didn’t show this “strong” side when Teresa caused a mental breakdown to his wife. Evan was wrong for tying to make Bill say his wife is a bad person. Sadly they only see what is wrong with other people but not their own circle. Marg was wrong for talking about Bill’s affair and doesn’t realize that Jen is going through a lot of suffering and her kids are extremely young. I’m not saying Jen is an Angel but she just has a tone that can be snobby but it’s her personality and lifestyle. They judge her for who she is but don’t reAlize that her culture is completely different. They should attempt to get to know more about her culture before judging.
What was he supposed to do? Give this energy to Teresa? And then everyone would have a problem with Evan going after a woman. He was saying stuff man to man. Way different situation.
I do agree with you and Evan was the one that surprised me he was vicious with someone who chose to walk away from his wife being berated! He was a wimp last season. Joe likes to get involved in woman’s issues and he and his wife act like the big shots who decide who should be outcasted. I am getting sick of this show
Right where was the righteous indignation last season. He was a quiet as a mouse.
Listen Evan cheated that's the truth, thats why he was quiet last season, and now is knuck if you buck with Bill because he feels he has been vindicated, when did the men start getting this involved with the petty drama? Evan was out of line, he should have kept that energy for the person who started his rumors in the first place who is Teresa and even then I know people whould have called him out for going after a woman. Bill has handled himself well so far in my opinion, besides stepping in if things got physical with his wife i'm not sure what people expect from him, if he was backing away that's his business I probably woudn't have at the same time why get involved in screaming matches with women about my infidelity? and yes Joe get's involved waaaaay too much! jen's assessment (as much as I don't like her) was spot on
@@obi.A. who did he cheat with? You sound like you have insider info👀
I honestly feel like Even did have an affair. Just his body language says it all and Jackie must know it
Funny enough, there was an episode where they were I think at Hamptons or jersey shore and she called Evan to find out if he's heading over and he said "just came from the gym, heading there now". I swear I thought to myself, he's cheating. Then when the rumour came out about cheating at the gym, I wasnt surprised.
He definitely did
Girl you know he did lol
He did they're covering it up he has to protect his reputation that's why they covered it up and that why Jackie was having all those nervous break downs all that year. She knew about it a woman knows when her man is, I do feel bad for her because she had her eating disorders because that triggered it but no need to cover it up and Margaret's the one who dug her nosey@ss nose into that one even the Plummer knew about it and gossiped about it to the other men and then later denys it Margaret was the main culprit who dug in Evans business for that info like she did with Bill and threw Teresa under the bus. Teresa covered up for Margret and didn't want to say it at the reunion. It was very clear and obvious! Margaret seems to do that with all the lady's so she can have something to throw back at them if they call her out when she's starts crap on the woman and they backlash she digs her nose in real deep and nasty. That's so wrong she is a trout mouth evioys snake like Danielle says it's ok for her to talk crap and insult people but they can't defend themselves because she will have their heads chopped off "oh how dare they" she will try to destroy those woman. That is so awful of her she need to go.
🤣anything that comes from Teresa’s mouth is full of it and bravo paid her to start the drama. Duh. It’s how it goes
They have such a vendetta against Jennifer that they can’t see how hypocritical and obnoxious they are being..unless something happens further on in the season I don’t know how this is gonna tip in their favor, they are all slowly but surely digging their rhonj graves
Exactly. It is crazy. It is almost like the producers are telling them something else.
@@peacehappyb237 it’s not hard to notice who barely spoke in this video so……….
I think it's because Jen's mouth or words hit them differently. Like the pain it inflicts in them hits real deep.
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Jennifer is mean and she took pleasure in spreading the rumor that Jackie’s husband was cheating last Season. All the while knowing her husband was the ACTUAL cheater. Now Jennifer should own it and move on. She had no empathy or sympathy for Jackie. Now she wants to cry me a River.
Joe is so obnoxious and literally has more of a spotlight than his wife. The way they treated Bill demanding him to basically not stick up for his wife. Are they delusional that’s what husband and wife does!
Exactly! They wanted Bill to stick up for them and coddle them over his wife. Marge says and does all kind things and no one has asked Joe to defend them over her.
@@Superstar-he3vr I wish they would not show Joe anymore. His toxic masculinity since episode one is just exhausting. And he is the most dramatic one out of all the girls. It’s like he wants his own show.
Exactly!!!
@@Superstar-he3vr You are so right 100%
@@Ashley-on4ln in case you don’t know. Joe and his sister and the husbands have been the star of the show since they started. New Jersey is the only show where the husbands had their own after show independent of their wives. I love it
Margaret is psychoanalysing Jennifer's marriage inside of taking responsibility for hurting Jennifer with a secret Margaret dug up and used to hurt Jennifer.
Margaret is very odd for that
Jennifer is two faced and a hypocrite. She is not a friend.
@@jg2975 they all two faced. It's called being on a reality TV show. Marge is a malicious c*nt tho. That's why her kids don't speak to her obviously
The same Jennifer that was all over Tenafly asking about Jackie’s rumor. She deserves everything that happened to her. It’s karma
She needs to start psychoanalyzing why her grown children want nothing to do with her instead.
We must watch different shows I have never seen Joe or Melissa stick up for Teresa
Right! Me either! They are delusional
They literally just showed footage backing up that they did.
@@joileellison8685 oh lord that one thing there is footage of Terese defending Melissa against Jacqueline and siggy for calling her trash. They talk like they have Teresa back oh please
And Teresa can't say the same either.
@@emilyrivera209 then maybe she should stop holding them to a standard that she herself doesn't adhere to. She is nobody's victim
i'm going to focus on marge with this one. Clearly she still doesn't know cheating is hurtful.
Jen had a background like that and she did what she learned from it. But her way to protect the marriage and kids need to be respected.
By Marge spilled the cheating rumors by not caring how the kids and jen fam will take it, it is another reason why a cheater is selfish and lack of emphaty.
Because she was the cheater.
Hence, why she cheated on her ex-husband.
If Bill didn't cheat the kids wouldn't have been hurt. Marge wouldn't have been able to throw it in Jen face.
Someone that isn’t happy always wants company! She just isn’t lacking empathy but she also don’t know how to not gossip and mind her own. Guess when your not truly happy life is only exciting when you try to make other’s just as miserable as you are 🤣
@@shaunettehoney3514 precisely! Yet it’s always easier to blame the woman regardless of what the man did. Oh and didn’t Jennifer publicly embarrass Marg and her mama about being “mistresses”? All of this sounds like a spray for a spray.
Jackie’s husband is delusional if he thinks bill will not defend his wife. He’s a freaking cheat. Jackie is crazy to think that there’s nothing to find, the side chick is already speaking out. Evan should get lost.
Where are they speaking out?
@@funnyfacebeauty twitter.
What is she saying ?
Please tell us more about Evans shenanigans lol
YUP
Jennifer, if your happen to read this, you 100% have my unquestioned loyalty as a viewer. Ya handle this shit like a true human, god dammit. Ya ain’t bending the knee when ya don’t need to, and you shine the brightest with your sense of humor 💫
Listening to Margaret saying that she didn’t know Jennifer never healed from Bill‘s infidelity- i find my self shouting at the screen “You’re a liar”. Now she’s pulling back because she's getting backlash from the viewers. Margaret knowingly told of Bill's infidelity and did not care one bit that it was going to hurt the children and it did. She’s mean and unhappy. Margaret told everyone about how she slept with her bosses to get ahead, about her infidelity, etc., etc. she told it all. It was fair game for anyone to bring it up. Bill's infidelity was not known to anyone until Margaret told everyone. Now she’s trying to back out of it. Too late! She always says, “everyone knew about it”, “everyone is talking about it” “it was out there for years”. No, it wasn’t- you’re the one who told.
@@janiboma Exactly Margaret is one unhappy woman. That's the only way you have no compassion for others. To be that cold is very telling.
Margaret is defiantly not unhappy 😂
Margaret is MISERABLE!!!!! WAKE UP!!
I love you jenneifer. Id gladly come to jersey shore and give them b-tcges a true new york -ss wooping. Nothing like a good ole new york dragging. Stay strong. Keep your head high
Thats the problem I have with Margaret. People that go through those affairs never fully heal from that so her going around and just flaunting her affairs and her mothers affairs is very hurtful and triggering
It was uncalled for Jenn to bring up Margaret's mom though. If she has a problem with Margaret then stick to her bashing her the gloves come off at the point I would go at her too if she was talking crap about my mom. Jenn didn't like it when her husband was called out for being just like Margaret and she felt it was unnecessary to bring him into their fight. She is extremely hypocritical, judgmental and entitled.
Anyone can be triggered by anything… how you receive someone’s comment is on you not them. Pretending like it didn’t happen is on Jen.
Margaret didn't brag or boast. She talked about how it was wrong how her relationship with the kids is still suffering. The fact that she said it before the tabloids or some expose her really makes everyone think she bragged. She didn't she shared her story. You don't think it would have come out since her and Joe are still together
@@queensugar4953 Hush! Trout brought up her MOM on national TV, you cannot and I repeat cannot police peoples reactions to the stories you tell them, then get mad! She didnt talk crap about her mom, she basically said it WAS NORMALIZED... which it was!
@@queensugar4953 I hear what you are saying... but I dont think Jenn brought up her mom to talk about her, more so to reference you grew up in an immoral disrespectful situation. It's the way she portrayed her affair that was distasteful. It was more than just telling her story. To have affairs and especially long term affairs is a very selfish act. The people involved aren't thinking about the people they could be hurting by their selfish actions. Also remember its not just the affair its the lengths that they go to to creates the opportunity to cheat that is especially hurtful as well
Joe Gorga is so full of himself🙄
Think though, does the one cheated on ever get over being cheated on, especially when carrying his child at the time?
I wouldn't.
Exactly, Marge wouldn't know since SHE IS THE OTHER WOMAN and SHE IS THE ONE THAT CHEATED. How gross that Margaret is! Then she plays innocent "oops I didn't know". She knew exactly what she was doing.
It happened to me..you never forget..
It’s possible to forgive but you NEVER forget.
No you never do just get over it. And it happy all the time. And when you stay you are saying you will move forward. You don’t get more weight for waiting ten years to use it for a storyline.
Regarding infidelity: I once read about a 90-something Italian woman who still had not forgiven her husband for cheating - and he’d been dead for 50 years.
did she kill him😃
I feel like this is future me. lol
Sheesh 🥴. She should’ve buried that when they buried him 😩
Lmaooooo
Italians don't forgive they will hold a grudge forever 🤣
Margaret wouldn’t understand…she was the cheater. That’s why the kids don’t speak to her.
They are not hers, that's why they dropped her like a hot potato. Her own children wouldn't have.
@@puseletsomalesa309 now That’s the truth there!!
@@puseletsomalesa309 good thing she doesn't have children, those kids would be a nightmare lol
I felt extremely sad when I saw gabby.
Geez, poor baby. That broke my heart.
Jenifer is a wonderful mother. The Marge should be ashamed of herself, she is a thirsty mess.
Agreed!! Margaret fails to realize that Jennifer isn’t the one who cheated. No woman is going to condone cheating and speaking like it’s something to be proud of. Joe Gorga is not a real man stay out of women’s fights.
Team Jennifer all the way! She doesn’t start shit, she REACTS to what others say first and finishes fights.
Well then she needs to woman up and not play victim! 🤷🏾♀️
@@coillest8628 ummm what do you mean she is the victim she got cheated on?
You can't dictate how a anyone responds to you, regardless of who starts it. Cause i know I am vicious. I am dragging your mom, dad, kids, your cat, your dog. No one is off-limits. I don't go high, I go to hell..meet me there
THIS 👏 👏🙌
@@cloroxbleach3757 Ummmm I’m talking about her interaction with the ladies, specifically Marge. She crucifies Marge for being a cheater for seasons, but she herself stayed with a cheater (Bill) and never held HIM accountable ! 🙄 She constantly brags about Bill being the best thing since Jesus, but all this time he was cheater. I love Jen, but her life isn’t nearly as perfect as she tries to portray!
The Gorgas chose Danielle over Teresa (earlier seasons), the Manzos, Jackie, and Marge. Melissa thinks she’s slick, but she “plays”, at placating and supporting Tre to wrong foot her. How she can compare sticking up for Tre when she was facing something as serious as prison, to being called “crooked”, in a post by someone you had started a war of words with, is beyond me!!!
It’s called housewives for a reason
I’m tired of Melissa needing joe for her storyline and present in the show
And Jackie boring af with her side talking mouth
Well, Teresa isn’t a housewife. I’m tired of her BS “loyalty” storyline. That’s all she has and it only goes one way. She’s a POS and I’m hoping she goes down a second time with her new conartist lover.
Well Joe is her spouse. Yes it called housewives so they are showing her being a wife and who she is a wife to. So he is very much apart of her story line. They are normal people, and normal people are not going to be having drama filled exciting situations every day. So it may come across boring but unless they make shit up most people lead very uneventful normal lives. Maybe you need them to make shit up to entertain you since your life must be so exiting, non stop action.
Lmaooooo
@@Maggie52209 😜me too she thinks she runs New Jersey...... Jackie is mybe boring but kinda real too
I'm pretty sure if someone else had a friend that tried to "give advice" to Melissa, Melissa would have been the same way putting them in their place. You can't think you're 100% within the group when you are just one person's friend and in some scenes. Traci needs to keep her mouth shut and that is that.
That part ^👏
Joe said that he would distance himself from his friends if Teresa didn’t like them but they are still best friends with Jackie. Last season Jackie made multiple comments about Teresa being in jail and Gia and not once did they stand up for her, tell Jackie she was wrong or stop being best friends with her. I love Joe but him and Melissa are definitely hypocrites.
Teresa was in jail. Jackie didn't run around telling lies on Teresa. First Teresa ran around telling ppl Melissa was a stripper then she ran around telling ppl Evan was cheating on Jackie.
Joe and Melissa became friends with Caroline, Jacqueline, and their family as soon as Teresa fell out with them 💯
I know.
Exactly!!!
Jennifer is the only reason why I still watch. The girls are all hypocritical bullies ganging up on Jen cause she speaks truth and. But she stands her ground and is not afraid of any of them, I love it. Also Joe needs to be a housewife I guess because he’s so desperate for the spotlight. It’s cringe.
😂😂 Next season... Joe the Housewife. Marge needs to wipe off the green hue of envy. Jen is young, pretty and just as feisty as her. Leave Jenn alone. Also stop pulling Theresa out of her magic bubble. She don't want to. LOL
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Kareem, same here. Marge Sr. & Margaret triggered Jennifer. She saw them both for what they were side pieces. That would really irritate me if a woman thought it a "cute story" about being a home wrecker? Sleeping with the contractor your husband is paying? :::ugh::::
@@palavergirl7450 yes, I agree. I think we're in the minority here!
@@palavergirl7450 I love what you wrote! ❤
I liked Joseph, Joe and Even but they seemed to be feeding each others ego at the expense of Bill and Jennifer. I really like the guys on NJ but my fav is Frank what a great guy, hes genuine.
I do like Frank and other than him possibly having some involvement in this Evan rumor he really does stay out of the drama for the most part
All the women, sans Teresa and Dolores and the men, except for Luis and Frank, have gone behind Jen and Bill's backs to conspire against them. Their goal is to single them out so they're no longer gelling with the respective men and women, which will lead to Jennifer becoming a 'Friend' or getting booted altogether.
@@texan903 oh well. She's nasty. Unfortunately, she has become Teresa's mouthpiece. She didn't see how that turned out for Danielle.
Yeah but he need to stop lying
@@deborahhendricks6058 Oh wow, Danielle! She has to be one of the most awful people on a reality show. I forgot about her till you said that, lol
Melissa talking about hypocrisy is wild to me because they have been pushing this narrative for soooo long that Teresa doesn’t stand up for her, and she’s a soldier for Teresa. At this point she has even bought into that narrative, but the only example she could provide was from season 3!!!!
Meanwhile, as recent as THIS season, she’s gossiping behind Teresa’s back. She is bringing to light phone conversations that Teresa had with Joe privately to squash issues and keep the peace.
So, yeah, maybe Teresa doesn’t throw herself in front of a bus for Melissa and tell all of Teresa’s friends to eff off for talking about Melissa because she knows that if she did that she would be left standing alone in the dust, while Melissa is over there in the corner snickering to her friends, tweedledee and tweedledum about Teresa’s private business.
Loyalty is also shown through silence and keeping private business private. It’s unreasonable to expect someone to be a shield for you to protect you from ever receiving any criticism for your actions, but by Teresa not getting involved (when we KNOW Melissa would get involved in any discussion or confrontation with Teresa as a fake voice of reason), that is loyalty.
Stop doing bad things to people and then expect Teresa to isolate herself from everyone defending you. Answer for yourself and no body else, like Teresa.
I don’t get how Melissa doesn’t get that
Preach
Teresa is a toxic narcissist with double standards. Teresa uses her faux loyalty narrative to manipulate everyone. Melissa brings up loyalty to Teresa constantly because to point out what a hypocrite T is. She has a different set of rules for everyone else. Some fans blindness to this astounding.
Joe: “Teresa likes attention”
While he’s getting into drama to get the attention of the producers and editors, to get more camera time.
OMG, Yes!!!!
Jersey is the GOAT as far as I'm concerned in the RH franchise!!! Their familial & life-long friend dynamics make it beyond real & something that can't b replicated!
Wtf is a goat
i agreee!!! team jen and bill tho melissa and joe and jackie and evan are not my cup of tea tho
@@katiebrown2230 you no who’s not my cups tea no more marge and her husband. But I don’t want them canceled!
No its not lmao its the same thing over and over the early days were the glory days
@Phenicia Mitchell to each their own, right
That's why everyone gets an opinion
I think Jennifer also comes from a different culture where they look at those things as shame to the entire family. It's different for her than American women.
Then bill should have kept his junk in his pants
Wanting to hide imperfections in one’s life and marriage spans across all cultures tbh. Especially when you’re a “Public figure”.
So it was OK that JENN called Marge all types of names including her mother… Because they’re American?
@@goosemother4224 No. That is not what I said. I said culturally it's a different experience for her. She didnt even tell her sister or friends. Calm the fu*k down.
So proud of Bill (Jennifer)for walking off when Joe and Jackie husband began to attack Jennifer character. Like I have said before Jennifer never starts the fight and when she responds back…She is the villain 🦹♀️. I call bull. Jennifer husband has to much to lose arguing with these men. He don’t need the show and proved it yesterday. Proud Proud of Him. That scene yesterday with the men was so tacky, booooo bravo…it looked very thirsty .
Truth
When did this become the Real Husbands show? I am so uninterested in Joe moaning once again about Teresa. Can we move on please? And Melissa is completely pointless too!!
Jackie and Evan are both pick me types and that's what they relate on. 2 weak personalities who feed off the energy around them to fit in. Jus ridiculous
Mellisa needs to be gone. She comes up in your face waving her hands and thinks there should not be a reaction. Come to the Real World.
100 percent agree!!! Melissa needs to be gone and she is boring AF!!!!
I don't wathc RHNJ often but it seems like her only story line is being Teresa's sister in law. Like that seems to be her only personality trait.
Melissa the roles were reversed for 2 seasons as well as others. Where Jackie literally is throwing Teresa jail stint in her face. Regardless of the loss of her mom and Dad. Melissa and Joe instead choose to be close to Jackie. The double standard comes from Melissa and Joe, not Tre.
Fr. I cant believe his her friend after she throw his god daughter name in the mud.
I call bs on Evans reaction. Was it defending his wife or the fact that eyes are back on him for cheating? Seems like the second.
Oh yea. Definitely not standing up for Jackie
I think Jennifer was right that Frank knows who Evan was cheating with. Since the men are good friends they probably cover each other’s lies.
Oh for sure. Frank knows the girl and Margaret’s Joe heard the rumor before Teresa brought it up. They just don’t want the heat
I pray for everyone whom have been cheated on especially adultery. It hurts
I imagine that it is a terrible thing to go through. For Dolores to put it there about the Aydin’s was a horrible thing to do. We she was the “other woman”. She is heartless.
@@janiboma *Margaret
@@ebg3624 OMG! I meant Margaret- not Dolores. Thanks.
Cheating is adultery. And I pray too.. for people to have some dignity
Joe is a liar. If Teresa told him to stop talking to Marge or Jackie he would never. Actually he didn't stick up for her with Jackie.
And Teresa would never do it for him either? They're both adults. The difference is Teresa EXPECTS THAT from people. Joe doesn't..
Cus she was dead wrong with the jackie situation…
@@SamAdamsDesigns He said he expects her to do the right thing, but won't outright say it. That's manipulative and immature as shit.
I love how they talk behind each other's back on camera. So precious. And why are they talking about someone else's marriage. Why don't they mind their own f****** business. This is sickening.
Hey Melissa how do you explain how you act towards Tresa when you’re with Margaret and Jackie
She's a hypocrite and a liar.
"we are very loyal" The people who literally were brought by Danielle Staub to act as a villain for their sister.
For real. Feeding my enemy information to use against me behind my back must be the height and summit of loyalty.
Oh PLEASE! When has Melissa ever stood up for Theresa? She's on Jackie's & Margaret's side each & every time! The Gorgas are full if sh*t! No storyline Melissa, Jackie Margaret need to GO! Joe Gorga has had rumors out there about his shady business dealings... So......... If it's not true, you don't give a rats behind. But, if there's smoke, there's usually a 🔥 and that burns. And Evan cheated!
I hate the Gorgas. Disgrace to the last name
Because teresa is usually in the wrong Lmfaooo what would she have defended
I may be mistaken, but didn’t his parents mortgage their home for him and they ended up losing their home?
@Rita Marie yes! He did! Crazy!
Melissa was friends with Jackie when Jackie was in her first season and Jackie was giving opinions about Teresa's jail situation,Melissa didn't stop being friends with Jackie,and Teresa was fuming,and Jackie was saying Teresa didn't write her own books 🙄
Jen & Teresa are so great for this show. Sad their getting dragged down by production and the rest of the very vanilla cast
Those other b*****s are bitterly jealous. Margaret and Melissa's entire goal is to provoke Jennifer at every opportunity so Jen will react. Eventually, they'll isolate Jennifer to the point where she's "no longer gelling with the other girls."
It's going to be another Jacqueline or Danielle type of situation.
Yeah at first I thought they didn’t like her bc she has her foot in her mouth a lot. But they mention her “luxurious lifestyle” more than Jen has at this point.
I have been eople those 2 are jealous of Jen! Melissa came on this show boasting from day 1, now she sees someone living a true life of luxury !
As for Marg she slept her way to whatever she has now and ended up with the plumber ( who is afraid of her); she obviously wanted better!
She will take Bill in a heartbeat if he was interested in her at all !
@@nnekam6153 💯
@@pn504 I will say Bill is a lot better looking than the other men and Jennifer is younger
How are they forgetting that Margaret was the one that started the rumor of Joe not paying people. Everything Jen throws out at everyone to insult them all came from someone else in her ear.
She didn't start that rumor. and that's not a rumor it's the TRUTH
@@arielbook10 the joe thing
@@ReD-gj5wt And it's the truth.
I can’t understand how Joe and Melissa try to act like the best people in the world we see them on TV talk about Teresawe see them cut Teresa screw on TV with their friends
I believe Evan cheated and that's why Jackie is starving herself once again when it all hits the fan and the truth comes out I hope Jackie will be eating
😂
Look at him…He DEF cheated!!! He is wayyyy out of her league & I’m SURE he gets lots of attention. They live 5 minutes from me in Tenafly NJ & I know women who find him attractive!
I think he has and am ready for it to hit the fan, Jackie is a real nut case
@@lorrainea.285 out of her league? The guy looks like a bland and boring man, and he is far from attractive
@@dimitroulak.5295 There’s nothing wrong with his looks but I’m just not attracted to it. The eye of the beholder thing is true. Jackie is highly educated like her husband so I don’t know why people say she’s beneath him. She’s at home with her kids because she can and is lucky to have the choice.
three mean girls and their boring husbands attacking the Aydins nonstop, they have one storyline between the three of them and the rest is just high school gossip about tre + jen
Just like Jen, Theresa
Hey did u guys hear, Margaret is a clinical psychologist all of a sudden…..
Margaret is more like a psycho. She forgets why her step children don't speak to her because she cheated many times. Margaret needs to shut the hell up alongside Jackie and Melissa. Plus Melissa act's like a tough girl but she is not. She only cares about herself and being self absorbed. Joe and Melissa never defend Teresa but when Teresa doesn't defend them they get mad. Brother's and sister's need to have each other's backs. My sister and i always have each other's backs. That's what a family does. They do not tear each other down.
Traci is trying to hard. She saw no one liked her when she defended Jennifer so she decided to come at Teresa to get back in the circle
& that’s why it will always be the Teresa show
Great point
but melissa didn't back up louie so how is melissa the victim?
It's her profession.
Bill and Jennifer are from a different culture than these others couples. They are great parents. Evans's issue was not with Bill. Joe should stay out of the women’s issue! He needs to be brought in as a housewife.
And this is what people seem to forget!!! Their culture dictates how they respond to situations.
Jennifer isn't Italian???
@@mammajamma4397 Turkish
@@mammajamma4397 She said in another clip that they are Orthodox Syrian.
Melissa you're literally sitting there talking to someone that called your Niece a Cokehead.... Let's stop the shenanigans
She didn’t call her a coke head. I guess you don’t understand what an analogy is either!
@@judymurray191 damage was already done
@@judymurray191 The analogy was made to do damage, and it did, and Melissa didn't check her for it.
@@judymurray191 stop with the analogy crap. I don't care what it was. If you bring my up it's war
@@judymurray191 don't use my child in any analogy that involves them doing drugs... I'm standing right in front of you, why not use my name? Cause you wanted to be as malicious and disgusting as possible. It had nothing to do with a point. It was meant as an attack. I'm not Teresa. I'm not stupid. I know how to explain why that shit was fucked up
I cannot wait for Teresa to shove all the cups in Margaret face. Marge is always in someone business . It’s like she HAS to know what everyone is doing
I usually like Evan, but damn telling Bill to get lost, go away etc., like WTH, did Evan have that same heat towards Joe Gorga, whose sister brought up the rumours, lol. I like Bill, Frank, Jen, Dolores and Teresa, forget the others. Lastly, it was Joe Margarets Lil man who confirmed Evans rumour looool
Who are we kidding? Joe and Teresa aren't all that close, so why would he hold Joe to the fire over Teresa?
Melissas so funny when she goes on her frantic rages. "Yoooouve got the wroooong one, you dont want this" 😂😂 Girl you cant even fight a fly, sit down lol
From my understanding Melissa did something prior to her calling u a crook
Hello Michele, Nice to meet you. I think you're an attractive woman with a calming smile, How are you ?
i feel like dolores is a half friend. i’ve noticed this about her from the last two/three seasons. she says what the crowd in the room wants to hear at the moment
Dolores tries to play both sides and to me whenever she says anything comes off as disingenuous because she turns around and switches it up to make the other party happy.
Jennifer has trauma like any woman would have from the cheating, on another level the cheating while at her most vulnerable time while pregnant. I think the reason she stayed is also because she has such a traditional marriage within her culture arranged. Deloris and Teresa also can relate because they too were cheated on. Grace should be given but lines do need to be drawn on attacking others. On the same side, Margaret put her affair on blast and should respect that children are involved. Margaret being the other woman in many relationships will be a trigger just her existence within the group and how unashamedly she blasts her affairs. Oil and water.
Yet Jennifer was digging for information about Evans affair. Ofcourse she wanted to use that information to put Jackie and Evans on blast. Jennifer had it coming. She is not a nice person. She uses what people say to her in confidence to hurt them.
@@chinezeolisah1308 agree, Jennifer is culpable for trying to expose or dig into something that is none of her business. However it wasn’t Margaret’s responsibility to disclose or bring up anyones dirty laundry. If Margaret doesn’t want anyone to think or look down on her affairs, she shouldn’t bring them up. Jennifer like so many women, Teresa included, have a tendency to strike out at people when they have been hurt or wronged. It’s not right as it’s misdirected anger. However, the real victims are the small children who have to be teased and talked about because their family infidelity issues are exposed.
Jennifer wanted to maintain that lifestyle. She wouldn’t have been able to stay at home with her children and still shop the way she does if she got divorced.
@@twoelles1056possibly , if you have an arraigned marriage and if you stick to your cultural and religious reasoning and culturally someone has been picked out for you- you don’t look at divorce as an option.
Just my 2 cents, I’m a first generation American from my mothers side. My grandparents had an arranged marriage…it’s a different lifestyle and family values. They would never have dreamed of getting a divorce, they also wouldn’t be on National TV airing anything. Jennifer is a doing many things that culturally are taboo. I am far removed and not considered by my mothers family as “one of them” I am and always have been an outsider but I can look at the cultural restrictions and feel for them.
@@catherinejoyner2480 I agree with you. My only counter is that Jennifer may follow certain practices from her culture but she’s far from traditional. And based on her response, the first reason she gave for staying was for the lifestyle. If I recall correctly, love and family was at the end of the list.
Melissa and joe need some tissues and a harden up pill. They can’t expect tre to stick up for them when they don’t stick up for her. Yeah you are the dishrack. Expect a dishrack doesn’t take photos of someone else’s work and try to take credit for it lol
Come on Joe? Jackie stayed at your house after that big fight with Teresa. You didn't stick up for her at the table remember when Jackie told her ( did you get your confidence from jail) Joe likes attention. You don't distance yourself from ppl that have a problem with Teresa. You invite them to your beach house and dinner table. lol
If Melissa couldn't talk about Teresa, she would have nothing to say! Give me a break!
Come up with another fake storyline. Yawn 😴
same goes for fat marge and not so skinny jackie, all they do is focus on teresa (who is amazing).
Dolores is beautiful
To me Evan went after Bill instead of Theresa and Frank, because he knows they will go toe to toe with him, and Bill who has more to lose will either take it or walk away!!!!!
1. I wish Jennifer would go to therapy to get the tools for healing 2. I wish the men would not be taking up the screen more than the actual housewives
It looks lile Joe Gorga has deep rooted issues with his family that he never addressed & he victimizes himself constantly. Joe, you are no saint. You came onto the show a hurt man & you’re now trying to gain sympathy on a situation that doesn’t warrant it. He and Melissa are really start a lot of issues, but can never take responsibilty for their part in anything. Every time Joe goes on about how his family treats him I play the world’s smallest violin. He and Melissa know how to control a narrative well, i’ll give them that. However, I see through the constant whining and passive aggression.
Joe's always playing victim from the beginning when he came on this show and where was the loyalty to Gia when Jackie said what she said about gia
That was an analogy!