TF2 - What's the Best Loadout for Scout?
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- In this video I share what I think is the best loadout for Scout and try to justify that choice.
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I still have question tho, what about a new video where you use your patented Toofty method at testing 2 weapons vs each other?
I miss that series.
So many questions.
What about Stock Rocket Launcher vs Beggar's Bazooka?
Stock vs Direct Hit?
Or Stock Scattergun vs Shortstop?
Nice
and you deserve it
Wait, wait, there is no Fish on the graph?
I guess it belongs to the hidden S + + category.
The phish is actually my go to melee because it's So powerful
@@ProducedBySoren same
@@Pengoreal like seriously this thing crits 3/4 of the times that's around 420 (nice) damage just from the crits
Right? I mean, it's technically not a reskin. You can use it to reveal Dead Ringer spies, for example.
Ah, and also, it has a hidden stat, and that is +50% chance of causing a ragequit on kill.
“Scouts melee is more of a utility”
LAUGHS IN MACKREL
The mackerel is more of a dps weapon because scouts that suck at hitting someone will pull out the mackerel or any other melee to kill someone.
Mackerel is a god tier.
CHANGE MY MIND.
Hoh boy, yesterday i were playing tf2c, i gotta say it man, scout's default taco range on that mode it's STUPID
Fish
haha fish go slap
When the flying gullitine could combo with the sandman's stun, it was my absolute go to loadout. You could stun enemies from a distance with the sandman and get a guaranteed crit with the flying gullitine. A brutal combo that used to be able to end fights before they even begun!
My own idea would be that the Sandman would slow players as usual, unless it’s a moonshot (a shot from the furthest range), which would be the good ol’ stun
@@IamStrikareaYsALT especially as it's a projectile with a fairly steep arc. You'd need to be an aiming god to hit a moonshot.
Have it be where up close it's simply knockback, mid-range is a slow, and a moonshot is a stun (not too long. Long enough where, if you're fast enough, the cleaver will hit just before the stun wears off)
@@sev1120 it’s kinda like part of the ‘Skill, Luck, Knowledge’ trifecta.
This new Sandman would lean into the Skill part since the better aim, the better stuns you can land.
And it would help if there was a symbol over a stunned (or slowed) player to help with pointing them out, like when marked to death.
@@IamStrikareaYsALT if possible, have doves fly around their head, like happens in cartoons
@@IamStrikareaYsALT Problem is stun mechanics in a movement shooter aren't really fun. What if it marked them for death instead?
“Makes you jump a bit higher”
The winger allows you to make jumps not before possible. 45% is not “a bit” it is absolutely terrific. I survived situations not before survivable. Use the winger for once
9:00 also, never use the winger as a damage dealer unless your opponent has a sliver of health. It is a utility
I say people undersell the damage potential of the Winger. It's not good, but it's still a pistol. Still does good damage on approach to soften up enemies, still a good finishing tool even if the lower clip size makes it really important to land your shots. It's a utility secondary that can also be used offensively if need be and I think that's something I enjoy about it, I always have a hard time using Mad milk or Crit a cola because I just like having the extra bit of insurance with a pistol, just having something to fall back on even if that fall back isn't as good.
@@ItsLeah43 I always use the winger lol, I'm not that good at the game tho (especialy when ut comes to aim)
what about the atomizer its better
@@cheesepop7175 thats a melee
@@miloiguess the atomizer is still better the winger sucks
9:48
Holy Makarel.
If you hit a dead ringer spy, it does not report is as death but as a hit
lmao instantly loses half cloak charge right outside spawn
So the makeral is a direct upgrade to stock?
@@cavenoises3891 pretty much, yeah
@@cavenoises3891 Correct.
F*CKING FINALLY I CAN ABUSE THE SH*T OUT OF THIS FEATURE AND FINALLY STOP THIS STUPID SPY MAIN FROM ESCAPING WITH THIS STUPID POCKET WATCH THANK YOU SO MUCH
Fun Fact: Scout has one of the biggest banned list of guns.
Almost ALL his secondaries are BANNED in all leagues... Tho to counterbalance Scout's op secondaries, Gaben gave him almost all bad primary unlocks except Soda Popper
Goes to show how OP Scout unlocks for secondary are, innit?
Scunt main be like:WTF did u say to my BABY!!!!
If u don't get it it's the force a nature
Scout's secondaries are so fucking OP they literally blacklisted it for all countries lmao
@@net5978 yep the best scout pistol is banned due to its state in jungle inferno +9 health on hit the pbpp in its current form could work as a meta weapon in 6s but the leagues dont want the scout having a pistol wich you gain health by spamming
@@0wly that makes sense. I think the pbpp is too good. Even in casual. you could combine it with force-nat or soda-pop to have a blistering damage combo, and you get health everytime you hit your target.
Really underestimating the sheer versatility and movement potential of the Winger's higher jump height there. The damage bonus is just the cherry on top. I agree with ultimately choosing between stock and the PBPP, since the Winger is somewhat situational (depends on the map how useful it is), but in a situation where it is useful boy oh boy does it deliver. You can basically go anywhere you want on the map. So many new and unexpected flank routes open up, and if you ever get into a bad situation you can often just jump away to safety somewhere. It's really underrated.
I feel like the Shortstop should go up a level because in the right hands it can be devastating, its also pretty good if you combine it with the criti-cola, otherwise everything seems good!
Shortstop + crit-a-cola has been my go-to combo for quite a while now, the shortstop is basically a FoN scattergun hybrid, which is lovely for me because I hate the abysmal mag size of the FoN
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Scoutin' is a good job mate
You ragging on my back scatter, keep your eyes at the back of your head, so you can see me miss every shot.
I always get clowned on for maining the back scatter but it’s so satisfying to get the mini crits
Yeah
Everyone sleepin on it
Imma guess yall have sub 1k hours
@@yayadoesaslep1823 2k bub
I like how toofty is talking about a class that is a direct counter to demoman
He’s a merciful God, he’s giving the enemy a fair fight.
what if hes lying for his own personal gain?
@@toadburger lmao
He’s a salty boi
@@toadburger He’s doing right in the _eye_ of us Demo mains, then
I love the soda popper even without the hype meter gimmick. Its potential for hit-and-run burst damage is simply fantastic. Perhaps it's not quite as consistent on high health classes, but you can often use the pocket pistol to mop up any remaining HP.
I like the Winger. It's low clip makes you use the scattergun more, which is a great playstyle, and it works as an excellent finisher and chip damage. The mobility is also good on SOME maps...
9:36
Toofty: “the moment you add a weapon that has perks but effectively no down side if you’re really good with it will always be very good”
The third degree: *sadness*
Damn, I want to support the argument but I still wouldn't use it...
the downside is not using Pyro's other pretty amazing melee unlocks
Third degree is extreme useless
For this weapon to work you need someone to actually play medic
So there isn’t a point in using this
@@qal5587 it still has an “upgrade” with no downside
Yeah but the upside is so situational that you might as well call it a reskin
Personally, I can't imagine not playing with the winger. I'm addicted to the slightly extra mobility. And I love using the wrap assassin as my melee. Although, boston is always my backup
Love to do the fan o war winger combo, I know its not the best strat, but its fun af
And yeah Im so used to the extra mobility, when I switch to an other secondary it feels like I play a class that isnt scout lol
This is literally my loadout as well. Like I'll OCCASIONALLY swap to the Pocket Pistol or Milk but I love the Winger too much X3
@Jakal-lantern Absolutely agree on that. The winger is one of the most fun weapons in TF2. Also, being able to do 60 damage across the map with the wrap assassin is insane. Definately one of the best scout loadouts.(typo edit)
once you go winger you can never go back
There’s a script you can use for the winger which automatically switches to the winger for like 0.12 seconds or whatever when u double jump to achieve the bigger jump at all times. Pretty Op
The winger is extremely underrated in my opinion, the extra jump height might sound like a meh upside but I've used it for a long time now and you'll be surprised what sort of places you can get up to and really trip people up during gunfights
I quite enjoy Force-o Nature, Mad Milk, and Atomizer. Great for movement and defending against pyros or helping a push
no. force of nature gives u enough mobility, u dont need the atomizer. try wrap assasin instead
@Dog "No you're playing wrong, play my way instead."
@@Rabidhotdog in spite of your comment, I shall use force-o-nature, winger, and the atomizer
@@Rabidhotdogyou can never have enough, dork
@@0mnijax966tbh stock would be a monster in that combo, but tbh why not go Soda Popper to really make ‘em wanna filet you
I’m glad people are starting to say that the wrap assassin is somewhat decent, it’s not great but it’s certainly not useless and certainly more useful than the sandman
The main issue with the wrap assassin has nothing to do with its stats. A lot of maps have areas an colliders where your balls will just instantly shatter, making them effectively useless at best and actually hitting you for self bleed instead at worst.
@@SethAbercromby badwater last T.T
@@SethAbercromby oh I am well aware, the things like badwater last and stuff like Hightower’s tower are real pains but if you don’t have to deal with it is a good option
It's literally the best scout melee in pubs. Anyone decent knows this.
@@SethAbercromby Watch any wrap assasin is bad weapon video, 90% of them NEVER mention map areas where wrap assasin doesn't work.
Let's be real. The entire reason I use Mad Milk is for the A-pose.
well.... is funny right?
@@ezzreacts9791 wrong
@@ezzreacts9791 yes
I know how to look like god with nearly all classes.
•Scout/sniper:
-needed weapon: jar of piss/jar of...milky stuff/cleaver
-how to: equip the weapon; commit aliven't; respawn; yeet secondary while HOLDING M1; grab what ya dropped earlier...if it did not despawn tho.
•Pyro; Pootis:
-needed weapon: whatever ya have as primary. Preferably assburner for Pyro and Huo Long Heater for Pootisman.
-how to: equip giant gun; commit "watch and lear---"; grow back a few moment later; go "yatatatatatatatatata" using all ammo...and not letting go M1; grab the trash ya left earlier on ground.
•Demoman:
-needed weapons: BASE JUMPER; Sticky jumper; Shield; bottle o'scrumpy.
Special condition: respawn on loadout change MUST BE disabled.
-how to: equip both jumper thingie and your booze bottle; go in loadout and change the stickies to any shield; toss your little balls around and bump the ammo resupply in the spawn while reloading.
(ye..demo does not need to die to become god..and any other melee beside scrumpy make it not work.)
•Soldier:
-needed weapons: any banner; any shoes
[respawn on loadout change disabled..else will not work]
-how to:
1) Equip your banner.
2) See the bad guys? shoot them and fill your banner.
3) go back to spawn and, in your loadout, change the banner into shoes.
4) make some noises with your toot thingie...be sure to hold M1
5) bump the ressupply crate.
still not found: Engie; Meem and Pie...
@@Mima_the_vengeful_spirit There is definitely a way to A-pose with spy as I have seen it happen but never seems to be on purpose. Think it has to do with disguising as another spy.
I personally always use the wrap assassin, it's perfect for engaging and disengaging fights, plus it allows the scout to deal decent damage at medium to long range.
as a scout main, the bonk can actually be really helpful if you need to get away from a group of enemies, or distract/tank damage for your team
Say that to the one and only Bonk Drinker, and for sure, he will agree
sir i own over 200 bonk atomic punches.
(if i still actively played id have much more.)
@@ducksforhire woah
@@blockofBrick crazy
@@ducksforhire precisely
Pretty boy pistol supremacy
Pretty Boi supremacy
shortstop supremacy
Tú acá?
mad milk supremacy
que hace acá caballero
1:24 The sun on a stick is on the same tier as the shortstop.
W H A T
Also, Winger's jump boost isn't good?
W H A T
And he didn't even talk about the cleaver.
W H A T
N
Sun on a Stick is generally bad, but it's because of its shitty damage and rare upside.
However, in HL or Pubs in general (since when do you find a game WITHOUT a Pyro), it's pretty much good for survivability. Pyro is a Scout's soft counter, so having this, though far from being a great option, is an option to have
winger increased jump high isn t as good as using the atomizer, just like that
@@prediculous8059 "pyro is a scout soft counter" man thats the words of someone that only sees scout getting killed by flare gun combos, exp scouts not only beat pyros but also truly counter them since scout can always stay away from pyro effective range till he pulls out his seccondary and make himself vulnerable to free meatshots( unless he uses the shotgun or panic attack) the only thing that pyro can do to kill scout is using airblast to ambush scout into corners
besides that i agree the sun on a stick can be usefull to avoid fire dmg
honestly i think you underestimated the winger, the jump height is doubled thanks to jumping twice allowing you to (with considerable map knowledge) get to very good hiding spots and more freely traverse the map, but otherwise i agree with your final loadout
The Candy Cane I would probably put between B and A, it gets better the better the player is more than any weapon on Scout, possibly in the game. It pairs well with the Winger and Soda Popper because those two items give you mobility, making it easier to dodge explosives
It's certainly more viable than the sadman. I would put the sadman in an easy E tier just because the health tradeoff for a mechanic that barely works and is useless most of the time isn't worth it. Probably the only melee worse than stock.
Toofty when you make a part 2 please say “RUTHLESS(no ruth)” just incase i forget what ruthless is
thats already part 2
(no ruth)
“Scout probably relies on his melee the least” laughs in degrootkeep atomiser to take advantage of bad map layout
This guy climbs
I would like it but its 69
Hey, I'd like to mention my load out.
Baby faces, pocket pistol, and wrap assassin. The pistol covers you on getaways if you get hit, allowing you to speed up and also heal, and the wrap assassin is a good start to building up your boost, allowing you to exponentially increase your speed and make you a more mobile target over time. The baby faces has less capacity, but encourages a more aggressive playstyle. I loved your load out and I'm gonna try it right now!
Pairing the Winger with the Atomizer can let you reach some pretty crazy spots. Excluding rocket and sticky jumping, the mobility is completely unparalleled mixed with Scout’s already crazy speed
The flying guillotine is highly underrated, from my experience it's a really good counter for snipers. All around just a great combo with the scattergun.
Yep and with the wrap assasin, bleed for days
ahh yes the ranged flava loadout
@@paulignacio3720 Why ranged when you can be up close
Proceeds to miss several boston basher hits and then dies
Umm.... Flava is Wrap assasin and flying guillotine not boston basher
@@paulignacio3720 Flava is all about the bleed
Its called RANGED flava cause you use guillotine and rap assassin
otherwise its just flava
I personally like to use the mad milk with the wrap attack, simply because of: pyros, health, funny long range kills.
I use the wrap-assasin cuz I think it’s funny, gives me something to throw without crippling my health. Also I just think it’s neat…
Guys i am a f2p and i got the force-a-nature the winger and the atomizer, Is that a good loadout?
@@greato.170 I'd say yes, you will be very mobile and good close range damage, but you'll have to learn how to use the Force-O-Nature
the wrap assassin is actually kinda good!
apparently from testing, if the ball has been in the air for 1 second its a 100% crit which is really good for baby face blaster and negating scout's one downside which is long-range combat
@@regalblade8171 where do you learn to do dat
the winger's increased jump is 90% the reason why most scouts use it. people don't get a feel for how high that boost can get you. it doesn't seem that high, but on some maps with a lot of flank routes, you start to realize that it's just enough to get you some more places
What about an extreme mobility loadout? Soda popper for the jumps, use the winger for higher jumps, and wrap assassin for easy hype gain
My hot take:
Force a nature
Mad milk
Fish
Cuz *i'm a scuntman*
Wow the same.
Crit a cola
Milk actually,supportive thing .c.
Scunts use: Force a nature, Crit a cola, wrap assasin.
Dont @ me
@@ilkness6161 hi
7:47 top 10 photos taken seconds before disaster
That would be true if he couldn't just you know
*Double Jump*
Judging by the AoE, you still get hit by the rocket
@@eh2587 Still, it would hit splash damage, and since it was a crit, it would barely kill a Scout
@@cowboyoctopus2738 a crit rockets splash whould deal 135 damage. Hes dead lol
@@gremmii3842 Thats what I said
As an unprofessional Scout main, my favorite load out is Stock, Winger, and Wrap Assassin.
The Popper is a close second, but nothing compares to the consistency that stock gives you.
I love the mobility the winger gives me, but I’d be lying if I were to say this wasn’t a tough choice. The pocket pistol, mad milk, and especially the clever are amazing options for me as well.
I’ve been using the wrap assassin for a while because I like having a bleed projectile like the clever without having to give up the mobility of my winger. That being said, I may end up switching the Boston basher. I’ve really warmed up to that option.
My secondary loadout would likely be the Popper, Clever and Basher.
Solid loadout over all. I like to show off my fancy Scattergun anyway, so I use it all the time. The Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol is, for sure, a direct upgrade. The Boston Basher is not my favorite, I prefer the Wrap Assassin. In my eyes it does what the basher does from a range, because I only ever unironically use the melee when I'm doing something ironic.
Basher is only good for building Uber, outside of that it's below average, wrap assassin can deal some damage at range and by using the guaranteed crit trick (make the bauble have an air time higher than a second) you can soften up enemies, especially with the pocket pistol
Hey Toofty, have you thought of making a loadout series where you discuss what’re the best loadouts for each class based on 4 factors:
Slot A: General/Most reliable
Slot B: Sidegrade loadouts for certain maps
Slot C: Alternative playstle
Slot D: Wild Card (or a slot that can be used for whatever, i.e, MVM loadout, extra Alt playstyle, etc)
Just something to think about is all
In MVM,milk FOW and either stock for consistant damage,shortstop if you wanna play passive and the map has putfalls/the bots get too close to the bomb or soda poper/FAN for mobility,max damage up close and the FAN for that knokback like the shortstop.
@@davitdavid7165 popper, Fan or shortstop are the best
Shortstop can be useful if you don't have a Pyro (or you have a phlog Pyro) if you have an airblast Pyro, shortstop is pretty bad.
Fan can be useful without a Pyro, and to pick money too.
Popper is about mobility and money ( or mad milk with fan of war, with the speed and jump height upgrade)
Thirty seconds in already confused, who is Ruth? Literally unwatchable.
@Boopy Did you try turning it back on?
Why i never find real haters in the comments
@@lucasdacarinha cos it's tf2
@@lucasdacarinha what is there to hate?
@@badusername723 Bots that invade TF2 servers
it's also worth noting that the soda popper doesn't have the knock back on shots, meaning you don't knock your opponent away from your second shot and can do more damage that way too
Honestly, through the time I have played scout, a lot of his options are viable in whatever format you set yourself in. My main load out has been Force-of-nature, Mad Milk, and the Wrap Assassin, but seeing your video has shown me a new direction towards what other play styles I can explore, so I might switch to Boston or pistol lol, thanks for the awesome vid!
I just like Basher Jumping and making the enemy think:
"Did he seriously just get up to me by doing that?"
2:02 can we talk about Dom getting that headshot though? damn
Geez, it's true, what a pro.
Dom is what we all want to be on the inside!
Heh hatless try hard AWPer hand. Totally original
Scattergun, winger, frying pan is my loadout as a scout main. I used to use the FoN and the sandman. But I love the winger. The added mobility is huge for my playstyle.
I usually use the atomiser because part of what makes scout strong is his mobility and ability to flank: so something that can augment that ability can be quite helpful
In my experience, the Shortstop is actually really good for a begginning scout. To be good with the Shortstop, you basically need to have good tracking, and with its absurdly tight spread, it can almost invalidate random bullet spread.
shortstop is best survivability weapon
@@AnnaSue81 no
@@keller_3180 it's not a good scout weapon, but it's somewhat ok-ish for survivability
I recently switched from stock to Shortstop and found i really enjoy using it. I also like the Back Scatter for ambushing enemies (altho you can do so with any other Scout primary).
7:47
RIP
Pretty Boy’s Pocket Pistol Scout
Died to a random crit rocket
2021-2021
lol
my loadout is Scattergun, Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol, and Atomizer.
I often switch the stock Scattergun with the Force-A-Nature, but in a lot of situations I highly value the scattergun's increased number of shots. I only use Force-A-Nature when my team is significantly winning/guaranteed to win. The Force-A-Nature also has an insanely good sound that, even if it was bad, I'd still use it just because the sound is so cathartic to me.
While the PBPP has a smaller clip, I love how it can give you a slight health boost. Absolutely sick. And like you said, the faster shooting speed is HUGE. I'm so glad it was the first gun I unlocked when playing the game, never going back to stock pistol as Scout ever again.
Atomizer... it's a level 10 bat, and boy have I died to it so many times because of that dang triple jump. super sick.
I'm so lucky to have unlocked so many good items and haven't bought anything (atomizer, PBPP, widowmaker, eureka effect, etc.). great video, glad I'm playing with the best loadout ever!!
The wingers jump boost alows you to reach places that you otherwise would need the atomiser (the atomiser also deploys 50% slower) or a charged soda popper to reach and since your soda popper wont Always be charged and the atomiser cant attack att range so you will have to swap weapons to be able to defend yourself the winger is the best option and also the fastest since joumping trice takes more time than joumping twice or if you kombo it with the soda popper you will be able to fly away untill you fall and die. The winger allso alows you to get around places that you already could get around even faster than before.
i for some reason absolutely LOVE the babyface's blaster i dont know why but i feel like it gives me more control of the character
Same. You are not alone.
i rely on the speed boost of the BFB to take down characters like Soldiers Heavies or Demo and escape Snipers Spies and Pyros
its because of the speed boost
I feel like the backscatter is criminally underrated... I used it a lot when I was a newer player I couldn't aim, the less accurate spread was amazing and mini crits were good too. I never was effected by the smaller clip because you usually kill your target with a minicrit meat shot.
True how can a weapon be bad if it can one shot 4/9 classes. 3rd best scattergun imo, right behind the soda popper and stock.
Also shorstop is also underrated its practically the best cause u never gonna get that close and come back in one piece especially if u are new to the scout also other guns are banned cause force nature could be devastating in cordinated team because of the callout also winger is somewhat becoming a meta and soda poper give a scout straight edge over other scout due to faster firing speed same goes for force of nature
I honestly use the back scatter 24/7. To me, its above the scattergun since i find more versatility with it because i flank more with scout
It's because pretty much anything the backscatter does the stock scattergun can do just as fine. Sure you don't get mini crits but you do get 2 extra shots, which for scout can mean all the difference between whether or not you finish off that duel with the other Scout
You LIKED the spread???
My go to loadout is BFB Bonk and wrap assassin.
Build up hype speed.
Bonk to back.
Slow nullify by pressing w + a or d or s + a or d. 2 keyboard keys at once
Then the real fun begins destroying teleporters and being a menace. The more people you kill the more they'll all try going after you.
Bonus get a demo engy or sniper and you pretty much make the enemy team lose like 30% of the total damage output since rocket spams sticky spams and headshots will slow your team advancing. Every +1 person you get adds more offense power to your team and removes more defense or attack from the enemy team.
This was an interesting watch! I've always been terrible at FPS, but TF2 is still fun for me even though I always have more deaths then kills.
Right now I switch between stock and the Shortstop after hearing about it from another channel. I like being able to hit sentries more safely and being able to fight at a longer range better
I switch between the pistol and Mad Milk for secondaries. Getting health from the milk is nice since, once again, I'm terrible at FPS XD But after hearing about the slight health gain from the pocket pistol I'm gonna try that as my go to!
For the melees, Atomizer is my go to. I suck at aiming and hitting my target, but I'm decent at being annoying and distracting. And this helps a lot with that! Plus it's really fun. You can win one of the CTF just with that if you're careful (I can't remember if it's called Crossroads or Crosspoints) Wrap Assassin is the other one I love. I haven't used it in awhile though
The baby faces blaster should never be used competitively but if you pair it with the wrap assassin and the flying guillotine its soooooooooo much fun.
i can agree the set is pretty decent. with using the bleed weapons at the start of a fight, it refunds boost if you get hit a bit. i still dont really like it since newer players that arnt the best at dodging and hitting shots so getting that two hits at the start can be a struggle for them. i think that there should be a small buff to the cleaver and wrap assassin to grant a mini crit or slightly more damage since all you get right now from hitting a cleaver and ball is like 50 damage (havent played tf2 in a bit so i dont remember) and 8 damage a second (i think its a second, once again, dont remember) or some sort of primary boost buff (like granting the bfb 25% more charge or granting the soda popper full charge. just an example)
Why not in comp
@@wegoyeet3166 because it's trash
@@wegoyeet3166 the class that is meant to roll out the fastest doesn't get to roll out the fastest
@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan demo rolls the fastest but ok
I love the loadout choice, but sometimes I prefer the added mobility of the winger
Same lets be honest the best secondary for scout are all of the pistols the other ones are either really situational or totally uselles but the pistols are really good all 3 are amazing
I just like the long distance damage the winger gives over the other pistols
Sure if you miss your damage falls off quicker but you also need to hit less shots.
My though process is: the winger does what the atomizer does even better and you can actually fight back while using it, so, how's this a inferior secondary to other pistols in any shape or form?
My original scout loadout was scattergun, winger, and wrap assassin. The extra jump high comes in clutch. But then I realized I suck at track aiming, so my new loadout is Scattergun, guillotine, and atomizer. I still get the extra mobility, but this time I have better aim with my secondary since I mainly play projectile classes.
@@BrownieKuma72 funny, I dont think I've ever landed a guillotine my whole life, so I stick with the winger
yess, been using wrap assasin in one of my loadouts for at least 3 years.
i stopped pairing it with cleaver, but it does insane bleed dmg
Another plus for competitive boston basher, since Medic also gets a movement speed boost for healing Scout, he and the Scout can reach the front line quicker, while also building the uber quicker with the Scout.
You don't need to fire at once for the soda popper or force a nature. Just turn off auto reload with a toggle config
Or you could do the comments suggestion and stop missing like 40% of your shots.
9:31 " Hello observant little one, I am the secret hidden sasha, I bring you 1 toof buck, Go now, and keep this between us. "
You were meant to not tell anyone
You fool now she will come for you.
A reply so I can see the rest of the replays cuz the bottom of my phone is broken
Saaaa
Your second option you showed is legit my load out lol
Nice to know I've got things figured out
As a scout that plays 3 pistols and mostly winger i feel the jump height as much as you feel like playing a machine gun with the pretty boy, ti use it almost all the time because of that jump height that gets you to places that not even the force a nature can get you (depends of the map) and the 25% damage makes it as good as other pistols for finishing your enemies (if random spread dont mess you up)
my favorite loadout is the stock scattergun, flying guillotine, and wrap assassin
flava
@@thenooblet7535 yellow
I know it sounds weird but one of my favorite loadout is Shortstop, mad milk and Fan O'War
But the loadout that use Toofty is my second favorite loadout
I like using Flying Guillotine and Wrap Assassin with Baby Faces Blaster, I dunno why
@TotallyNotMaxYT Cast some holy water on it XD
It's not a loadout to do serious work with but I love it nontheless because it's such a crappy loadout XD
I personally love to use the mad milk and wrap assasin. Just cover some one in milk and put a bleed proc on them and presto, a background healing machine while you do the big damage with the scatter gun no matter where you are. Makes you a bit more tougher to kill in general and makes fights against heavies and pyros easier.
I think many ppl underestimate the stock bat. I think its rly great weapon for finishing out enemies.
especially with small magazine weapons like shortstop, force of nature, soda popper.
u can shoot a heavy twice at close range with force of nature, and finish him with bat swings
Yes, but fish.
9:37 *Third degree intensifies*
0:44 Either Atomizer or Wrap Assasin would be better for Casual, the Boston Basher is good, but only for serious play .
11:22 I like using the atomizer because its both a utility and better damage output if needed. It deals 40 damage when in the air, and with its triple jump, its like a match made in heaven.
The flying guillotine is good because it has no damage falloff and rewards the player for landing long range hits. With a skilled enough user, it's an incredible tool for finishing off opponents at any distance, or just throwing it into a choke due to the fast recharge
Personally I would choose the atomizer because I can’t play scout without a modification on the jumps
Why isn’t the frying pan on the top of the list Toofty? Ok fine nvm
My personal fav is the Back Scatter, Bonk, and Atomizer. You can get behind the enemy with bonk, (maybe even out of other classes reach with the atomizer) and when they give up and go back to the frontlines, you run up behind everyone at the frontlines and back scatter them.
i would use the wrap assasin cause scout weakness is long range but the wrap assasin covers that weakness if u can *aim* also u can dmg yourself with the bauble
"The moment you add a weapons that has perks but effectively no downside then that weapon will always going to be really good."
Laughs in Third Degree.
Laughs in gunboats, but at least it’s decently good.
Some weapons like gunboats is the downside as no shotgun
As a former member of the church of scunts. I can say that that is my man go Loudout in tf2.
I'm in love with Boston basher flying guillotine and stock it's reliable and there's a bit of challenge too rly great
I swear by the Baby Face’s blaster, if you’re dodging skills are on point and you can hit your shots, you can practically get out of anything
10:34 Not just that, but the slowdown doesn't work half the time as you can just strafe to cancel the slower speed.
It's a bug that needs to be fixed, but us most likely not going to.
Even if the bug gets fixed, the slowdown mechanic really isn't that good to begin with. Not good enough to make up for the 15 hp you have to sacrifice for it.
He literally explained why the scout has mostly utility for his melee because he doesn't normally hit people with his melee
but then says the basher is the best
giving medic free uber seems like a utility thing to me homes
@@MSCDonkeyKong But that is barely used unless you are in a competitive game and even then I think that the atomizer's triple jump would be more handy and give more options also sorry for the long response
But the basher is also a great ultility for movement for example you can use the bleed damage to make you jump even higher than the atomizer i use it a lot on ctf_2fort
@@aerial_noclip now I don't use the basher much but I think the fact that it could jump higher than the atomizer is just straight up wrong and plus I think using the weapon that was meant to jump is a lot better than hitting yourself in the face causing a small bit of damage and bleed just to jump a bit and even if it is better somehow there are pairings you can use with the atomizer to make it better like the winger the soda popper or the force of nature both give you much more jump height then either
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Only the soda popper can keep up with this. Doesnt make me agree that the basher is good outside of comeptitive, but it definitely has more burst mobility than any other scout weapon.
Personally, the choice for melee and primary are obvious for me, Sodapopper and Holy Mackerel. For my secondary, I usually switch between Bonk, Crit-o-Cola, and the Winger, but I think I use the Winger more often.
0:42
when I saw the basher
I knew
NO. (Spy's Voice, then mannrobics away)
The Back Scatter being low tier hurts. I once had someone say to me in a game "Back Scatter. Cheater." and afterwards have just continued to use it since.
Dude I legit just finished watching your Demoman one and then you drop this, epic
My load out actually depends on maps. Ex: on Hightower or 2 fort, I usually use Force-a-nature, winger, and atomizer. But for payload maps, i usually use Stock, winger, and sandman.
why the sandman?
@@masterawn Idk, I’ve always liked it XD
7:48 tooftys entire life flashed before his eyes from that crocket
Honestly Great list! If I had to stay with one loadout my whole life, it would be scattergun, winger, and atomizer just because I have a very flank heavy playstyle. So mobility is my priority.
Why don't u use the backscatter then? If you think its bad just give it a shot cus i think it's really good.
@@zveks2022 flank doesn't mean you will be behind them 24/7, the consistent 6 dmg shots with consistent spread is better than a gimmick. Also flank also doesn't mean you will be suprise attacking the enemy, most of the time you just WATCH the flank and make sure the other team's flank doesn't get through it. And when you are actually pushing the flank, you are mostly the distraction so that the other team focuses you and your combo will enter in for free and cleanup.
My exact some louldout and some times the pbpp
Winger is so useful against soldier bots. That ability to change directions so quickly and move more away from the rocket is quite useful. Same for the FaN, Soda Popper, and the Atomizer.
i agree mostly but i prefer the atomizer, the extra jump comes in handy in so many situations
I have not experimented too much, but my favorite scout loadout is either critical or MADD milk for secondary the stock scattergun and the atomizer because of the versatile utility it has
Toofty : clip size
Everyone who knows anything about guns : rrrrrRRRREEEEEEEEE
Not really his fault, since the game itself describes mag size, as "clip" size.
Still, it hurts to listen to.
In terms of game code, all weapons' ammo is the "clip". Be it drum, mag, belt, piss dart, or whatever.
It's like how 3D models have jiggle bones for hair or breasts or whatever.
Its so annoying
We all know that the ideal scout loadout is
*ranged flava*
But what about
unranged f l a v aa.
They can't handle the flava
I’ve heard ‘flava’ a lot but I don’t know what it is, can someone explain?
@@minecraftveteranyoda4476 basically where you meme with force of nature and winger with the bat that bleeds you, I forget or the wrap assassin/sandman
Or fish
Over a year later; personally I’ve been having fun with the Baby-Face Blaster, Guillotine, and Wrap Assassin. You’re supposed to pester enemies from midrange until your boost is decently charged, then as you engage enemies, you offset the damage you take lowering your boost with the DoT of the bleeds…
On paper, in practice it’s having a 4-shot scattergun and 2 useless weapons if you’re not a god lmao
This is a super situational question. When playing competitively, the mad milk is likely the best secondary. When playing against a larger team, the guillotine may be better (it's run in highlander a fair bit). The soda popper can be extremely powerful against even skilled soldiers and demos if you airstrafe. The Boston basher is not very useful on a team that doesn't build Uber. In that case, the wrap assassin might be better. It's also important to mention that some players, such as FROYO Arekk, prefer the winger. As an all-around option, I would agree with the final loadout.
REEEEE love your videos man. Always brings a smile to my face!
same
my favorite scout loadout is force of nature, winger, and atomizer because big jump
Scattergun, winger, and stock bat reskin (personal favorites are the fish and the pan). The scattergun has consistent damage and doesn't need to be reloaded every 2 shots like the FaN and it doesn't knock your enemies back like the FaN which might make your next shot miss or do less damage. The winger only has 5 bullets per clip but the mobility it gives you is very valuable, plus it has a 15% damage bonus. And the stock melee and reskins have literally no downsides and all the other options either do basically no damage, or have had their one upside neutered (sandman)
good video i personaly would use the wrap assasins i agree with the rest
I use stock- stock - atomizer most of the time. I can definitely appreciate the basher as being better in serious play (mainly for Uber building as you mentioned) but since I'm a pub man I prefer having that little extra movement option. Sometimes I still use the basher tho because I got that 3 rune blade drip 😎
i dont really care what melee i use for scout, and because of that i use the epic three-rune blade
Scout is my least played class so i have no idea why i’m watching this
My go-to loadout for scout is Soda Popper, Mad Milk, and Wrap Assassin. I never use melee, so I use the Wrap Assassin for the baubel when initiating a fight, as well as making up for my lack of a secondary attack. The soda popper is very sustained and reloads immediately anyway so I don't much care for a pistol.
My own personal scout Loudout is either the soda popper or shortstop (both for the quick burst damage), the flying guillotine, and the wrap assassin.
I generally loathe the other scatter guns because I can't unload my clip all at once (I can't aim) for a quick kill