An interesting bit of history. The pistol that John Browning submitted for military trials in 1910 did not have a thumb safety but only the grip safety. The military did not like this as the only safety and prevailed upon Browning to design a thumb safety for the gun, which he did, resulting in the accepted version in 1911. Even in it's 1910 configuration with no thumb safety the Colt/Browning is safer than any of the modern striker fired pistols with the only safety being in the trigger. Anything that can accidentally pull the trigger on a striker fired gun will also disengage the trigger safety tab. On the 1910, both the grip safety and the trigger would have to be depressed before the gun can fire, an action less likely to occur as the two components are located some distance from each other on the gun. Thank you for this video. It confirms an opinion I have long held regarding the relative safety of the modern striker fired guns, none of which I have ever owned nor plan to own, for a variety of reasons.
Loved what you said about not needing to prove the gun is empty. I think it's so stupid most channels feel they need to do this check in front of the camera for the peace of mind if the viewers. It is your gun, it's your responsibility, not our concern.
Very interesting analysis. I have been hearing crap from my Glock loving buds forever about how dangerous a cocked and locked 1911 seems. Now I can put'em in their place. Knowledge is a powerful thing. lol
@@teckdugame8023 It’s the usage and training, not everyone buys a gun to run and shoot churches, and not everyone is an idiot who doesn’t know how to safe carry.
Excellent video, I didn't realize how many safety features the 1911 has over today's polymer pistols. I own 1911's and this video gives me more insight into how the 1911 functions.
Despite being 3 years late to the video I want to thank you for the detailed overview of the 1911 safety mechanism and a straight to the point attitude.
Super good educational video. I have been carrying 1911 for many many years cocked and locked. As a deputy sheriff, we had the Glock 22's. I came to work in civilian clothes with my 1911 (which I qualified for off duty carry) and scared a few deputies who said..."your hammer is back" I got so tickled that so many are striker-fired familiar only, they are not familiar with 1911's except the old heads who also got tickled! ;)
Browning was a genius! The1911 and the 50 caliber BMG are still very reliable weapons used all around the world and I don't see them becoming extinct anytime soon after a hundred years that says a lot! You just can't touch perfection!
Went from Glock to Springfield XD to M&P but have come full circle back to the first two guns I bought 45 years ago, a snob nose ,357 and a Mk IV Series 70 1911. I came around to seeing both of these as being safer than the plastic wonders. Very good explanation of the advantage of the 1911.
Sir, I just want to say thank you very much for this great video that you posted now eight years ago. This video sent me down a wonderful rabbit hole of 1911 education, and long story short it actually ended up, motivating me to get my first 1911. I love it so much. Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart. -SLMC🔥
Great video. It seems to me that people fall into the trap of judging a book by its cover. A cocked and locked 1911 only LOOKS more dangerous because you can actually see the hammer. I've seen many gun enthusiasts talk about how dangerous a cocked and locked 1911 is to carry, but then lecture you about how you should always carry your striker-fired gun with a round in the chamber. What's worse is they will then try to justify themselves by pointing to how light the triggers are on 1911s...only to then install a 2 lb Apex trigger in their Glock/Sig/etc.
I like what my favorite handgun instructor told me: "If the safety is a problem, it's not with the weapon, it's with the operator, he lacks the necessary skills". And since I've taken that course and heard that, it has been proven true many times, it was at the American Pistol Institute and the instructors name was Jeff Cooper.
Dont believe everything you hear from "firearms instructors." They are there to put fear in your head & make $$$. No matter how safe anyone think they are, we all are HUMAN and will make mistakes.
Ski Fall here let me help with your stupidity.... There is a glock 19, a 1911, and a revolver sitting on a table. All loaded. A policeman off duty picks up the glock for himself to use as a conceal carry. A dude picks up the revolver that he won at a raffle, has never shot before but takes out the bullets and takes it to his saftey course to shoot because he is smart for knowing some form of common sense, unlike you... (realistically will it be loaded, probably not, but it's to help your narrow thinking) A ten year old kid, specifically who has no experience (because kids who know how to operate and know the safety rules of a firearm won't do this, no curiosity in their head) finds dad's 1911 and plays with it. Now...which gun is unsafe? Glock, revolver, or 1911??
I completely agree with this video. My EDC gun is a glock, but my favorite gun is my wilson combat 1911. I think the cocked and locked 1911, with what I consider a real safety, is definitely safer than the glock's trigger "safety". I carry the glock because of the weight, but I would never consider it safer than my 1911.
Great video. One of the best on explaining the safeties on a 1911. I have a CCW license and my 1911A1 is the only gun, out of several I own, that I trust to carry cocked and locked. Regrettably, it’s a little bit of a challenge to carry in the summer months because of summer clothing. An officer’s model would probably work for warmer weather. I’ll wait until the piggy bank says ok. Again, great video.
Great Video! Very easy to follow. I have carried a 1911 for almost 40 years. A lot of those years I carried them on duty as well as off duty. I never say, "I know it all" because there is always something to learn.
Wow! I really enjoyed this video. I am a newbie, just having bought my pistol in 12/16. I chose the Springfield xd mod2 9mm service model. I was intimidated by the 19ll's "dangerous hammer", lol. Now I understand how it works and look forward to checking one out. Thank you for making this video. It was very informative.
Don't forget about the half-cock notch. Everyone forgets to give the half-cock credit. Keeps the hammer from striking the firing pin in case it slips off the sear w/out the trigger being pulled. And there is a purpose for that series 80 system. There were a lot of 1911 NDs from the guns going off after being dropped as the firing pin had enough inertia to touch off the primer. Good solution is the firing pin block deactivated by the grip safety. Better solution is a titanium firing pin. Same principal the makarovs use to be drop safe. Even passed the CA drop tests w/out a firing pin block (think that was the CZ-82, but could have been a bulgy PM).
@johncitizen3927 they're have been many stories from old MPs of their 1911's going off when dropped on the muzzle from as little as hip height. It happens. Welcome to reality. I know all you gun guys like to live in your own world, but out here physics rules. Try and keep up.
One of the better videos on 1911 v Glock/striker fire for conceal carry. Very basic for the people that do not know the difference. I like that you said that 1911s and glocks are both reliable guns, no one is trying to discount that. I carry a 1911 officer or an xdm compact 45. Basically my main two daily carry guns are the glock v 1911 (other than my xdm has a grip safety, which I like). I always have one in the chamber on my carry weapons, and both of them I understand very similar like an extension to my arm. 1911 feels better in my hand, xdm is match grade with a few sight and trigger upgrades with a nice carry holster. 1911 looks like a showpiece and a tool gun at the same time, cause I have great cocobolo and mother of pearl grips, haha, don't judge me, and trigger, hammer, etc. I like both of those guns, they feel different, shoot different, maintain different etc. but both are great. I feel more comfortable with my xdm (that is me, not the gun) cause I have way more years with that exact gun on my hip, however, the 1911 I would carry all day, every day if I had not have gotten the xdm as my first main conceal carry weapon. I think every chl holder should own a 1911, not for daily carry, but just because it will let you know what you dislike and like about every other pistol you own. Obviously you have to maintain it much more than poly pistol, but striker fire trigger feels horrid when compared to a decent(not even great) 1911. Different things like that make a 1911 a must have in any gun owner's collection. I also saw some videos on youtube 'Why I wouldn't trust my life with a 1911'. My grandfather was a gunsmith for over 30 years and I grew up with hundreds of guns around. He was not really into pistols, but the 1911 he always spoke very highly of (I just bought him one for this upcoming Christmas I am excited about). I also understand the glock 17 and 19 is being adopted more and more by the military. I hope most people realize that is way more a cost and maintenance issue than performance issue. I have quite a few family members in different marine and navy special forces and they say they have seen 1911s, glocks, and nearly every type of sidearm on different people in different special forces. There is an old saying - it's not the arrow, it's the Indian. Glocks, 1911s, Springfields, and pretty much any quality made pistol will do the job, if the person pulling the trigger (or not) knows what they are doing and does their job. I do also agree 1911s are a safer carry weapon, because of that, practicing the thumb safety as second nature should be done by anyone new to the system until it is a near 100% habit when stress drawing the weapon. Thanks again for the great video - sorry for the novel.
Outstanding explanation! I knew some of this, but could not show someone else with logical reasoning. Now that I understand it all, it will be easy to explain logically and objectively. Gives me much more confidence in the 1911 carry option and much less in the Glock option
Wow -- I've been wanting to do a video like this for a long time. Thanks a bunch; you did a great job. I could wax philosophical and get into just what has caused so many otherwise intelligent people to accept as "safe" all of these striker-fired pistols that are actually just begging for a negligent discharge, but I won't do it. If I hear just one more person say, "Yeah, but the most important safety is between your ears," or "I like this pistol because it is simple to operate," I'm going to regurgitate. What's between their ears is not a safety, it is a vacuum. And what they mean by "simple" is "I don't have to put in the hours and hours of training that it takes to create muscle memory." Folks, here's some free advice: if you're so jacked up and the adrenaline is flowing so rapidly and your training is so poor that you can't remember to swipe off a thumb safety before unleashing deadly force that could change many lives forever, you'll be way better off keeping the pistol in your holster or at home. These striker-fired pistols with no active safeties are like automobiles that are rigged in such a way that the doors don't lock and pressing the accelerator starts the engine, releases the parking brake, and puts the car in gear. Is that a "Safe Action Accelerator"? The enemies of the Second Amendment think gun owners are wild-eyed crazies who are just itching to shoot someone. Carrying a weapon that has no active safeties makes them look correct, even if they aren't. Once again, fillupread, thanks for an informative video.
on the other hand if you can't pull your gun out of the holster and remember not to pull the trigger you may have a problem too. you can train yourself on any quality fire arm to be safe.and no matter what you carry you keep the finger off the trigger until you want to shoot. these striker fired glocks xd's m&ps can not go off without pulling trigger.
There is reason behind safety’s especially military firearms. Glock will never get chosen for the military even though its an amazing gun and the army is already regretting the sig that isn’t drop safe due to the reasons above. I love watching these videos but people comment like they have been through world war one and two with all the live action they have seen. In a real situation most people’s adrenaline make them do stupid things like pulling the trigger before its even left the holster properly. A firearm is never safe enough no matter what you have between your ears. Professionals have shot them selves just being at the shooting range. Almost all military firearms have proper safety’s and this has been incorporated over a 100 years of experience. Is mostly to the public they sell guns with trigger safety’s. Anyhow i still love glock and sig but CZ the best. Just all my opinion.
Colt454 sounds like you think you're smarter and more intelligent than you are, maybe for the world's sake, don't you dare ever give anyone advice on anything again. 30 year old community watchmen on CZcams are all of a sudden the authority.
I just had a friend ask me why my hammer was back on my 1911. Thanks to your video, I was able to explain to him why my hammer being back was safer then him carying his stricker fire pistol with one in the chamber. I really appreciate you taking time out of your day to educate us on how the internals actually work.
It is not "safer" it is just different. The Glock and its rip offs have 3 passive safeties that make it impossible to fire. (Not 2 as claimed here, but I'm sure that was an honest mistake.) However, if somebody is an idiot who does not know how to keep his finger off the trigger, then yes the 1911 is indeed "safer".
@@ExVeritateLibertas Mistakes happen. Snagging a trigger on something can happen. You can also choose not to activate the safety if you don't want to. Also if you're someone who's afraid of forgetting to deactivate the safety in an emergency your also human enough to forget perfect trigger discipline at all times. But I guess forgetting to deactivate the safety doesn't make you an idiot? Am I right? Or I'm also assuming you've never accidentally done/ not done something. The 1911 does have some flaws. Mainly its limited capacity and weight if daily carrying. Honestly in my mind the perfect pistol would combined the grip angle, accuracy, and some of the safety features of the 1911 with the capacity and some of the other features of a modern pistol like a Glock. I can shoot either but I don't like the idea of daily carrying a pistol without atleast a thumb safety. There are more opportunities to have a negligent discharge then there are to forget a safety in an emergency. Both have risks. Which is the more likely and greater risk? Pick your poison. Honestly while you are correct on the Glock having three safeties they're all passive and take only one action to disengage them all. Simply pulling the trigger correctly. Most 1911s take three steps. Grip gun to depress grip safety, flick off thumb safety, and squeeze trigger. Some sub-compacts eliminate the grip safety. So that leaves you with two steps.
@@ExVeritateLibertas when conceal carrying, a piece of clothing etc. could get caught in the trigger guard. What happens then? Won’t fire when carrying a 1911
@@TJB270 Something getting caught in the trigger guard only is possible when you are reholsteting. A good holster fully encapsulates the trigger and trigger guard. Reholstering should never be done in a hurry. And a bigger issue is that the external safeties can be failed to be actuated in a stress event. Even the grip safety can fail to engage if your grip is not great on draw. There are many cases by the police where THEY failed to properly disengage safeties and they got badly hurt. Or even engaged a safety accidentally when they were carrying.
No griping here. Good video. Have tried numerous times to explain this to Glock owners to no avail. It doesn’t matter. I do carry a Glock 19, but it’s only due to the weight of the 1911. Are used to carry a 1911 all the time. I still carry the 1911 from time to time. It just depends on the circumstances.
Took a live fire training course one time with my 1911 and the instructor had a fit about the safety. Never missed the safety for the whole course. Training, training, training and more training. Know your weapon and understand it. Nice video!
The very first pistol which I ever purchased was a 1911 made by Colt in 1923...with the horrible blade front sight, but I found I could shoot far better than the revolvers I grew up shooting. My second 1911 was made by Norinco in China with better sights and was one of the very few makers which Wilson Combat considered good enough to use as a customizable base gun. My latest 1911 purchase is a 1911 by Ruger complete with all the custom features I wanted as stock. This is my favorite carry gun today. I own and have carried Glocks and other name brand pistols, but I still feel most comfortable with the gun I shoot best...a cocked and locked 1911.
I feared for my life when he had that 1911 cocked and locked...seriously thought I was at deaths door watching this through my computer screen...somebody lock this guy up!
during army training with the 1911a1 the instructor loaded and chambered the sidearm, released the thumb safety, and proceeded to throw it up against the indoor range wall, causing most folks there to nearly wet themselves. He then picked it up, aimed it at the target, and hit 7 bullseyes. He then proclaimed the 1911a1 to be the safest weapon he had ever used. the jist of his diatribe was that the 1911a1 does not fire until you put your booger hook on the bang switch. the only 1911a1 I fear is the ones pointed at me.
Another benefit of the safety on a 1911 is as Mas Ayoob has said for years. If someone snatches your gun during a scuffle, they may not be able to figure out how to deactivate the safety for an amount of time which could allow you enough time to either regain control of the weapon……or RUN!!!
And my mind has been opened to a pistol type I had not considered due to irrational “conventional wisdom”. Also, I appreciate that this vid was short and to the point. Some guys would take 30 minutes. 😖
I’ve had someone try to argue with me about the dangers of carrying condition one on a 1911, while they were carrying a Ruger Security 9 with one in the chamber. The Ruger Security 9 is a hammer fired gun (internal hammer)! Some people don’t have a clue about the gun they are carrying.
Exactly. My family has a lot of Ruger Mark 1-4 pistols, they work much like the 1911, except has no grip safety. They will carry the Rugers cocked and locked, but with the 1911 hammer being visible, it is just too scary to do.
I was just going over the safeties built into every 1911 in my mind earlier this evening, working out my argument for the safety of Condition One. Thanks for posting this! It added to my knowledge and my confidence - not in handling the weapon, but in dealing with idiots.
I agree.....timeless .....tested and true performance design 110%>>>> like an old muscle all metal and bad ass!I carry a 1911 style RIA 10mm....cocked and locked
Very detailed video! I have a 1911 and this gave me a very clear understanding of how the safety features work. I've had my reservations about carrying cocked n locked, but I'm more confident about it after watching this. Thanks
Great video bud. Makes 100% perfect sense . My two favorite pistols to bet my life in .....92fs and 1911a1 . Carried the m9 in the service and 92fs as civilian. I knew a bit about the 1911 but have been learning alot more over the last little bit . But I have always enjoyed a hammer on my sidearm . And to be honest if the only reason you have a striker fire is to feel safe cause there isn't a hammer especially after you watch this video you...a.get a rock ,make us all safer ,2.Run ur head into a tree and get some sense or 3. Depend on a very close relative to protect you cause I dont even trust you with a rock. Have a nice day and again great video
Thank you so much for this video! I just bought my first hand gun (Springfield 1911 ROE 9mm) and didn't know about how all the safeties worked. After watching your video and another one about conditions, I'm gaining more confidence about how to make hand guns part of my every day life. I'm scheduling my training and it's nice to go in having some understanding. Thanks again!
Not exactly but I understand why you say that. The thumb safety blocks both the sear and the hammer. Had you dropped an old gun with enough slop that the impact would disengage the sear, the hammer is still locked in place. The interface between the sear and hammer is very small, which is why you can get such a great trigger out of them. The safety needs to block both to be 100% effective.
The best safety is one that prevents the gun from firing pretty much 100% of the time while activated. Shouldn't trust it, but id trust a mechanical device more than an advanced biological processer that makes hundreds of mistakes every hour.
I'd trust my life to a weapon that's easy and fast to operate more than I'd trust my ability to flick levers or pull a harder, longer trigger when milliseconds and the slightest movements can count. Sometimes you either have to trust yourself or complicate things. I might goof when counting change to pay for an item at the store, but after just 1 time chipping a wall with a bullet, I learned not to set my 1851 Navy down and leave it cocked for any amount of time. I also changed where I lubed my weapon. Still, it was no accident I pointed the weapon toward a concrete wall or the backstop in the 1st place. Deep in our minds, we tend to take potential danger more seriously than most things. Memories of dangerous incidents tend to be cemented in our minds and certain things happen to our emotions and behaviors so we continue to survive and promote the survival of the species. I'd even suggest that mistakes could be organized for people in controlled situations to make the ultimate teaching moments. This is already being done in some ways. In schools, mock scenarios like car accidents are acted out to show in a realistic fashion how shit can get fucked up so kids understand the gravity of the situation. Most learn well that way, so when they're adults, they're better for it and don't have to learn the hard way. Paintball or airsoft is a great way to teach the basics of firearm safety, too. If they mess up on the field with a relatively safe replica, they know better what to do or avoid doing if they ever handle a real firearm.
The argument against the external safety is that it is one more step to overcome in order to fire the weapon. Modern school of thought is that the external safety consideration is in the fact that the firearm is supposed to be secured in a holster as part of the system. Removing it from the holster is akin to "taking off safe". Outside of a holster, yes the external safety is "safer". You can train to carry with an external safety. But many would point out that under stress, many have missed that step. On a gun without the safety, you just aim and fire.
Agreed. Though for my own safety I keep proficient with the 1911 and ALWAYS use the 1911 style of grip. Meaning my thumb rests on the safety so every time it clears the holster enough for the safety to come off, it's off.
One of my friends who works armed security and sits in a truck most of the day, uses a glock and the polymer has started to warp from the heat. No joke, you can look at the gun sideways and see through it. A toothpick will fit through it. I always thought glock was like a bic lighter and a 1911 is more like a zippo. Glock is cheap and everyone has one. The zippo is all metal and stylish, but you have to deal with evaporation. (metaphor for low ammo cap) The best gun is the one you have on you when you need it.
Great video explaining the safety features of the 1911 platform! The way you arranged the parts and described their interaction was perfect for me. Much easier to understand than some of the slick animations I've seen. THANKS!
fucking exactly out of all the reports Ive read about AD from glocks, everyone of them is due to a damn jacket string, wont ever happen with a 1911 the ONLY way that 1911 is going to discharge is if its in your hand and you are trying to shoot it! end of story
@@joeygonzo This defeats every Glock fanboy's argument that your brain is your safety... I prefer a DA/SA trigger, and a string wouldn't cause it to fire either...
Thank you! Just started using a 1911 and absolutely love it. I was curious about the safety. And thanks for not doing the ridiculous clearing of the firearm before the presentation 🙄.
Actually best most complete vid and ONLY one with all this loose parts shown and hand animated great job and thank you. I love my XD greatly but I want a 1911 for carry to compliment my smaller car option (Sig P238) which mimicks 1911 manual of arms (operation). For the sake of consistency. YOU, did better than Masaad Ayoob, Bill Wilson and controlled other people who explained well but not clearly, with parts and the office that I thought the whole time I empirically FEEL safer with the idea of a switchable safety I chose to turn off, to unrelated to the gripping or firing by trigger. You confirmed my logical evaluation compared to cockefed stiker guns I have and others mimicking Glocks. I love my XD Single Action trigger and it was close as I could get to a 1911 concept in a Polymer Striker pistol thank you, you helped me see clearly that the 1911 is not only safe chicken but actually more naturally controlled than the trigger paddles alone on Glock clones. I like the grip safety so I like it on the XD. I like the idea that I decide when to disengage the thumb safety and make the gun free to fire. THANK YOU!
Great video! I kinda knew most of this, but your video made it really easy to understand. I know my Glocks inside and out, but wasn't as clear on my 1911s. Thanks.
Check your fire, on the 1911 series 80 the firing pin safety is deactivated by the trigger pull. There are two levers in a 80 series safety. The Schwartz type safety deactivates through the grip saftey, I have never seen a Schwartz safety on a 1911 but I have read about them. I do not know exactly how the Schwartz is set up, but you can probably find out about it on the net. Got to be a good schematic somewhere.
Correct. Kimber, Colt and S&W used that system on and off evidently. I think Kimber stuck with it in the Kimber II's. For those not 'above average' familiar with the 1911, I dont suggest they remove the firing pin block. None of my 1911's have a firing pin block but again, i build them for kicks and giggles and do not carry one for defense.
By definition a series 80 is deactivated by the trigger. The grip safety style like the Kimber is called a Schwartz firing pin safety. I dont buy either since I had a Kimber fail to fire due to its firing pin safety. Its 70 series all the way for me. Good video.
The 1911 is the safest and most accurate handgun I own. I’ve never understood why people think a cocked striker fired pistol is better than a cocked 1911. I guess it’s because the 1911 hammer is visible and in your face. But the 1911 safety system is light years above a striker-fired gun.
Only a person who knows nothing about guns would say that. You can't just say "striker fired" because there are tens of different variations between guns. Let's take Glock for example. If the safety of the firearm is concerned, Glocks are light years ahead of series 70 1911's. Glock has a firing pin block that prevents the striker from hitting the primer unless you pull the trigger. The striker is not fully cocked so even if the trigger AND striker safety were to fail then it still wouldn't fire. Also it has a drop safety. Series 70 1911's only safeties disengage or block the trigger. If the sear was to fail then the gun would fire. Is that likely to happen on a well built 1911? Of course not, but the Glock still has more safeties to make it near impossible for the gun to fire without the trigger being pulled.
LOL Good video, Thank you. I have considered converting my 1911's to series 70 but then I can shoot fine with them as is so I haven't. I must admit I was worried about getting shot through my phone as I watched this video. Until you explained the Internet safety. I'm also glad a busload of nuns didn't set a church on fire.
This. Great mechanical explanation of why it’s 1000 times safer to carry a live cocked and locked 1911 than it is to carry a striker fired live. It’s why my edc is a Kimber micro 9.
ahh...8 yr old video and am about to learn something new! I could never carry a striker fired polymer one in the chamber but i have a 1911 and been thinking about this. Thanks for the education!
you can blame a lot of the ignorance of people on the lack of training now a days. when i was young you could bring your guns to school. The local sheriffs department would hold firearms safety classes on campus...
Nice demonstration. I like my striker-fired pistols and my series 70 1911, but for carry I prefer my DA/SA CZ-P07 with a decocker, round in the chamber and decocked.
Excellent video. Easily understood. I recently purchased a Sig Sauer 1911. I have other Sig's, but not a 1911. Like many shooters new to a 1911, I have/had a mental aversion to carrying cocked and locked. This video reduces my concern of cocked and locked. Thank you.
@@acesilverbuyers7920 Ive had 1 AD with my g26 gen3. its been my edc for 3 years its 19 years old never had a malfunction (glock parts only) other than the wifey limp wristing it . yes i do not feel safe appendix carrying after seeing a nra shoot match forget who it was, but the shooters glock( unknown model and specs) but damn thing went off in her holster as she was taking position. ive noticed the 9mm round will get jammed all the way into the chamber where u cant see it. i racked her the standard 4-5 times pulled the trigger and boom. had a hornady critical defense go through the master bed room floor. grazed the living room window with out any damage to the glass. with the round finding its final resting place 3 floors down in the foundation of the basement about the size of my index finger...needless to say i always visually verify when loading/unloading and safe checking the muzzle into the ground.
only if it was modified could it fire in her holster with out a trigger pull. Other than your accidental discharge( which sounds like am ammunition problem to me), every other thing you just said is supreme bullshit Jeff
I've carried a Remington 1911 r1 for 2yrs chambered with the hammer down with the delete and a trigger job and being throated and polished, because of fear of the unknown, after watching this video I will be carrying cocked and locked with 100% confidence thank you sir for the very informative video
there's a reason why the 1911 is still being used in the military, because it is proven and reliable. I'll take a 1911 over a glock any day. 1911s have been in service for over 100 years and I'm pretty sure that if they were dangerous, they wouldn't have been given to the Marines. If glocks are so "GREAT", why is the Army using Sig Sauers?
Because the government is cheap. The sigs were 102 million dollars less than the Glocks. Also the Glocks didn't meet the requirements they weren't modular. Also we're still good we've got FBI, DEA, USMS, ATF, Navy SEALS, British Forces, 65% of America's police force, and a shit ton of other countries.
The US Army replaced the 1911 in 1985 with the Beretta M9. They've now adopted the Sig. I served in the Army and VA Army National Guard for 5 years and the only 1911 I ever saw was mine, or at the gun store.
The US military had a set of standards since 1908, just prior to the 1911 adoption. The gun must have a hammer, a safety and the grip safety was added onto the 1911 in order to adopt it. The Beretta 92 won the contract in 1988 as it fit the requirements and fired the NATO approved 9mm and survived the testing. Last year some of these rules were removed and striker fired sidearms were considered. The SIG won for two reason according to what I have read. 1st was the modular design as the chassis can be removed and fitted into different size grips and slides to adapt to specific needs. 2nd was the minimal tooling needed to maintain the SIG. The Glock declined the support and the armory costs to tool the gun for repairs and upgrades was going to cost way too much. Basically Glock gave them a hybrid gun and thought the name "glock' made them a shoe-in. Sig offered service and support and was cheaper to maintain and offered a modular design. This information was pulled from a gun magazine article I read this past year.
If someone is going to have a negligent discharge of a gun a safety ain’t going stop that but a safety will definitely stop someone from defending themselves in a stressful situation.
took my glock, p99, and 1911 to the range. man, it's a bitch training with 3 total different platforms, especially the mag release on the p99. I stick to carrying only my glock or shield because it's what I train most with. but you can't deny the 1911 platform.
I love my 1911 not because its a 1911 but because it is comfortable and reliable my glock 19 is the same way just not as comfortable as the design of the grip but still very reliable as well
theshapeexists yea my only gripe is size and weight on 1911. And capacity. And easy of cleaning and easy of use. The Glock is just stupid simple. And I believe in KISS. KEEP it simple stupid.
The 1911's thumb safety blocks the sear, but it isn't a true hammer block. It may or may not prevent the hammer from falling if the sear were to break. People have tested it, and the hammer will usually push the safety into the off position and continue to fall. It may or may not slow the hammer fall enough to prevent it from igniting a primer. One person who did a test said: "I did a test on that a few years back, and using standard CCI primers (not the ones that they market as Mil-Spec, which are a little tougher than their standard fare) it took 36 repeated hits to fire a primed case. Another test on Winchester primers required 22 hits...and Federal required only 5." That's why I've left my Series 80 parts in my Colt Government Model (along with the fact that I didn't notice any difference in the trigger pull, i.e., the trigger pull feels equally good both with and without the Series 80 parts), because if the sear were to break while carrying cocked and locked, and the thumb safety neither stopped nor slowed the hammer down enough to prevent it from firing the gun, the Series 80 plunger would be a last line of defense which would absolutely prevent the firing pin from striking the primer, due to the trigger not being pulled.
I've watched this several times and it's just good common sense stuff. Where did common sense and brains go in this world ? Especially with shooting community
Thank you! Very informative, & understandable illustrations, & seemingly good logic. I'd love to hear a rebuttal to those points, but so far, you've convinced me!
Some guns are more safe than others. If you think otherwise you have been brainwashed by Glock. Glocks have a lot more AD's than DA/SA pistols and revolvers.
Exactly...also the reverse is true...Bottom line...know your firearm. Know it so well it is second nature. From a Hi Point to a hi end..I keep my 1911 chambered but not cocked. Practice that way. Under 1 second to draw and fire. If you prefer another way..practice REGULARLY that way...we all have our reasons for carrying and for what we own. Makes life interesting.
I know this is an old vid, but on a Glock the firing pin is at “half-cocked”, and pulling the trigger pulls it to “full-cocked” before the sear releases the pin and fires. Also a 1911 isn’t drop safe, to the extent some manufacturers uses titanium pins to lessen the chance of inertial firing. That being said the 1911 is quite safe cocked and locked as you said.
Correct. Glocks are technically a double action. I'm on the fence calling a double action a safety but I could easily argue that it is also. Funny thing, since I made this video I have added a G26 to my gun collection. I tried to make it clear from the beginning that the video isnt a glock bashing video, that they work well.
Grip safety is a great feature for IWB carry. That's why I like the XD's as well. That SC NC dialect you have is funny. Words like "mash" the trigger...I only know because I originally hail from there as well.
Best explanation of the safety of the 1911 I have ever heard, or seen. Thanks.
Agreed 👍. Loved the info bud. Thank you. Pew pew on...
My father showed me his 1911 when I was 6 and explained the safeties as much as could wrap my brain around. Excellent presentation.
An interesting bit of history. The pistol that John Browning submitted for military trials in 1910 did not have a thumb safety but only the grip safety. The military did not like this as the only safety and prevailed upon Browning to design a thumb safety for the gun, which he did, resulting in the accepted version in 1911. Even in it's 1910 configuration with no thumb safety the Colt/Browning is safer than any of the modern striker fired pistols with the only safety being in the trigger. Anything that can accidentally pull the trigger on a striker fired gun will also disengage the trigger safety tab. On the 1910, both the grip safety and the trigger would have to be depressed before the gun can fire, an action less likely to occur as the two components are located some distance from each other on the gun. Thank you for this video. It confirms an opinion I have long held regarding the relative safety of the modern striker fired guns, none of which I have ever owned nor plan to own, for a variety of reasons.
There are striker fired guns with grip safety's...
There are Striker Fire with Grip safetys and External safeties. Not to mention the Glock has a "Glock Action" 3 safety system in the trigger alone.
Loved what you said about not needing to prove the gun is empty. I think it's so stupid most channels feel they need to do this check in front of the camera for the peace of mind if the viewers. It is your gun, it's your responsibility, not our concern.
I’m literally like man shut up every time I see someone show me a empty gun on video lmao 🤣
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100% agree
I know. So dumb. If anyone ever had a negligent discharge while filming they just wouldn’t post the video.
Very interesting analysis. I have been hearing crap from my Glock loving buds forever about how dangerous a cocked and locked 1911 seems. Now I can put'em in their place. Knowledge is a powerful thing. lol
Are you sure I can't be shot through the screen of my computer? I have a really good graphics card.
Should we try?
Sure. Just make sure you video the attempt and upload it to CZcams so we know how it worked out.
My graphics card is so good playing Verdun actually hurts.
DocFlamingo Love the comedy
Maybe, if you were watching with virtual reality glasses on. You'd be dead until you remember to take off the glasses
"That gun can just go off at any moment and kill everybody in a busload of nuns and set a church on fire" LOL
Mine must be defective; they put holes in paper at the range.
@@teckdugame8023 It’s the usage and training, not everyone buys a gun to run and shoot churches, and not everyone is an idiot who doesn’t know how to safe carry.
Excellent video, I didn't realize how many safety features the 1911 has over today's polymer pistols. I own 1911's and this video gives me more insight into how the 1911 functions.
Despite being 3 years late to the video I want to thank you for the detailed overview of the 1911 safety mechanism and a straight to the point attitude.
Super good educational video. I have been carrying 1911 for many many years cocked and locked. As a deputy sheriff, we had the Glock 22's. I came to work in civilian clothes with my 1911 (which I qualified for off duty carry) and scared a few deputies who said..."your hammer is back" I got so tickled that so many are striker-fired familiar only, they are not familiar with 1911's except the old heads who also got tickled! ;)
I learned alot about the 1911 trigger from this video, john moses browning never ceases to amaze
alot is two words... a lot
@@Edubbplate Thanks alot.
Browning was a genius! The1911 and the 50 caliber BMG are still very reliable weapons used all around the world and I don't see them becoming extinct anytime soon after a hundred years that says a lot! You just can't touch perfection!
Appreciate the video as I am new to 1911's. Learned a lot.
Went from Glock to Springfield XD to M&P but have come full circle back to the first two guns I bought 45 years ago, a snob nose ,357 and a Mk IV Series 70 1911. I came around to seeing both of these as being safer than the plastic wonders. Very good explanation of the advantage of the 1911.
Sir, I just want to say thank you very much for this great video that you posted now eight years ago. This video sent me down a wonderful rabbit hole of 1911 education, and long story short it actually ended up, motivating me to get my first 1911. I love it so much. Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart.
-SLMC🔥
Great video. It seems to me that people fall into the trap of judging a book by its cover. A cocked and locked 1911 only LOOKS more dangerous because you can actually see the hammer. I've seen many gun enthusiasts talk about how dangerous a cocked and locked 1911 is to carry, but then lecture you about how you should always carry your striker-fired gun with a round in the chamber.
What's worse is they will then try to justify themselves by pointing to how light the triggers are on 1911s...only to then install a 2 lb Apex trigger in their Glock/Sig/etc.
I like what my favorite handgun instructor told me: "If the safety is a problem, it's not with the weapon, it's with the operator, he lacks the necessary skills". And since I've taken that course and heard that, it has been proven true many times, it was at the American Pistol Institute and the instructors name was Jeff Cooper.
Dont believe everything you hear from "firearms instructors." They are there to put fear in your head & make $$$. No matter how safe anyone think they are, we all are HUMAN and will make mistakes.
Ski Fall STFU troll
*****
you are just another idiot GI Joe wannebe. loser LOL
Ski Fall here let me help with your stupidity....
There is a glock 19, a 1911, and a revolver sitting on a table. All loaded.
A policeman off duty picks up the glock for himself to use as a conceal carry.
A dude picks up the revolver that he won at a raffle, has never shot before but takes out the bullets and takes it to his saftey course to shoot because he is smart for knowing some form of common sense, unlike you... (realistically will it be loaded, probably not, but it's to help your narrow thinking)
A ten year old kid, specifically who has no experience (because kids who know how to operate and know the safety rules of a firearm won't do this, no curiosity in their head) finds dad's 1911 and plays with it.
Now...which gun is unsafe?
Glock, revolver, or 1911??
Ski Fall And the troll keeps proving me right.
This is a very good educational video about the beautiful 1911. Thank you for explaining this to everyone!
Fantastic, detailed video. I learned more in 15 minutes than I already knew about the 1911. Great visual demonstrations.
I completely agree with this video. My EDC gun is a glock, but my favorite gun is my wilson combat 1911. I think the cocked and locked 1911, with what I consider a real safety, is definitely safer than the glock's trigger "safety". I carry the glock because of the weight, but I would never consider it safer than my 1911.
I must admit , this was the best and most informative video on 1911 safety that I have ever seen . My compliments sir .
Great video. One of the best on explaining the safeties on a 1911. I have a CCW license and my 1911A1 is the only gun, out of several I own, that I trust to carry cocked and locked. Regrettably, it’s a little bit of a challenge to carry in the summer months because of summer clothing. An officer’s model would probably work for warmer weather. I’ll wait until the piggy bank says ok. Again, great video.
Great Video! Very easy to follow. I have carried a 1911 for almost 40 years. A lot of those years I carried them on duty as well as off duty. I never say, "I know it all" because there is always something to learn.
Wow! I really enjoyed this video. I am a newbie, just having bought my pistol in 12/16. I chose the Springfield xd mod2 9mm service model. I was intimidated by the 19ll's "dangerous hammer", lol. Now I understand how it works and look forward to checking one out. Thank you for making this video. It was very informative.
Don't forget about the half-cock notch. Everyone forgets to give the half-cock credit. Keeps the hammer from striking the firing pin in case it slips off the sear w/out the trigger being pulled. And there is a purpose for that series 80 system. There were a lot of 1911 NDs from the guns going off after being dropped as the firing pin had enough inertia to touch off the primer. Good solution is the firing pin block deactivated by the grip safety. Better solution is a titanium firing pin. Same principal the makarovs use to be drop safe. Even passed the CA drop tests w/out a firing pin block (think that was the CZ-82, but could have been a bulgy PM).
1911 will go off, if dropped from 6 story building. ..
@johncitizen3927 they're have been many stories from old MPs of their 1911's going off when dropped on the muzzle from as little as hip height. It happens. Welcome to reality. I know all you gun guys like to live in your own world, but out here physics rules. Try and keep up.
One of the better videos on 1911 v Glock/striker fire for conceal carry. Very basic for the people that do not know the difference.
I like that you said that 1911s and glocks are both reliable guns, no one is trying to discount that.
I carry a 1911 officer or an xdm compact 45. Basically my main two daily carry guns are the glock v 1911 (other than my xdm has a grip safety, which I like). I always have one in the chamber on my carry weapons, and both of them I understand very similar like an extension to my arm. 1911 feels better in my hand, xdm is match grade with a few sight and trigger upgrades with a nice carry holster. 1911 looks like a showpiece and a tool gun at the same time, cause I have great cocobolo and mother of pearl grips, haha, don't judge me, and trigger, hammer, etc.
I like both of those guns, they feel different, shoot different, maintain different etc. but both are great.
I feel more comfortable with my xdm (that is me, not the gun) cause I have way more years with that exact gun on my hip, however, the 1911 I would carry all day, every day if I had not have gotten the xdm as my first main conceal carry weapon.
I think every chl holder should own a 1911, not for daily carry, but just because it will let you know what you dislike and like about every other pistol you own. Obviously you have to maintain it much more than poly pistol, but striker fire trigger feels horrid when compared to a decent(not even great) 1911. Different things like that make a 1911 a must have in any gun owner's collection.
I also saw some videos on youtube 'Why I wouldn't trust my life with a 1911'. My grandfather was a gunsmith for over 30 years and I grew up with hundreds of guns around. He was not really into pistols, but the 1911 he always spoke very highly of (I just bought him one for this upcoming Christmas I am excited about). I also understand the glock 17 and 19 is being adopted more and more by the military. I hope most people realize that is way more a cost and maintenance issue than performance issue. I have quite a few family members in different marine and navy special forces and they say they have seen 1911s, glocks, and nearly every type of sidearm on different people in different special forces.
There is an old saying - it's not the arrow, it's the Indian. Glocks, 1911s, Springfields, and pretty much any quality made pistol will do the job, if the person pulling the trigger (or not) knows what they are doing and does their job.
I do also agree 1911s are a safer carry weapon, because of that, practicing the thumb safety as second nature should be done by anyone new to the system until it is a near 100% habit when stress drawing the weapon.
Thanks again for the great video - sorry for the novel.
I give this young man an A+ for actually knowin' what he's talkin' 'bout.
Outstanding explanation! I knew some of this, but could not show someone else with logical reasoning. Now that I understand it all, it will be easy to explain logically and objectively. Gives me much more confidence in the 1911 carry option and much less in the Glock option
Wow -- I've been wanting to do a video like this for a long time. Thanks a bunch; you did a great job. I could wax philosophical and get into just what has caused so many otherwise intelligent people to accept as "safe" all of these striker-fired pistols that are actually just begging for a negligent discharge, but I won't do it. If I hear just one more person say, "Yeah, but the most important safety is between your ears," or "I like this pistol because it is simple to operate," I'm going to regurgitate. What's between their ears is not a safety, it is a vacuum. And what they mean by "simple" is "I don't have to put in the hours and hours of training that it takes to create muscle memory." Folks, here's some free advice: if you're so jacked up and the adrenaline is flowing so rapidly and your training is so poor that you can't remember to swipe off a thumb safety before unleashing deadly force that could change many lives forever, you'll be way better off keeping the pistol in your holster or at home. These striker-fired pistols with no active safeties are like automobiles that are rigged in such a way that the doors don't lock and pressing the accelerator starts the engine, releases the parking brake, and puts the car in gear. Is that a "Safe Action Accelerator"? The enemies of the Second Amendment think gun owners are wild-eyed crazies who are just itching to shoot someone. Carrying a weapon that has no active safeties makes them look correct, even if they aren't. Once again, fillupread, thanks for an informative video.
Well said.
on the other hand if you can't pull your gun out of the holster and remember not to pull the trigger you may have a problem too. you can train yourself on any quality fire arm to be safe.and no matter what you carry you keep the finger off the trigger until you want to shoot. these striker fired glocks xd's m&ps can not go off without pulling trigger.
There is reason behind safety’s especially military firearms. Glock will never get chosen for the military even though its an amazing gun and the army is already regretting the sig that isn’t drop safe due to the reasons above. I love watching these videos but people comment like they have been through world war one and two with all the live action they have seen. In a real situation most people’s adrenaline make them do stupid things like pulling the trigger before its even left the holster properly. A firearm is never safe enough no matter what you have between your ears. Professionals have shot them selves just being at the shooting range. Almost all military firearms have proper safety’s and this has been incorporated over a 100 years of experience. Is mostly to the public they sell guns with trigger safety’s. Anyhow i still love glock and sig but CZ the best. Just all my opinion.
Colt454 sounds like you think you're smarter and more intelligent than you are, maybe for the world's sake, don't you dare ever give anyone advice on anything again. 30 year old community watchmen on CZcams are all of a sudden the authority.
@Chris Indermuehle because rifles aren't drop safe dumbshit lmao. Do you even understand the mechanics?
great info...I'm looking into getting my first 1911 and you improved my knowledge of how the 1911 model functions.
Best explanation I’ve heard since my unit armor explained it to me, great video
I just had a friend ask me why my hammer was back on my 1911. Thanks to your video, I was able to explain to him why my hammer being back was safer then him carying his stricker fire pistol with one in the chamber. I really appreciate you taking time out of your day to educate us on how the internals actually work.
It is not "safer" it is just different. The Glock and its rip offs have 3 passive safeties that make it impossible to fire. (Not 2 as claimed here, but I'm sure that was an honest mistake.) However, if somebody is an idiot who does not know how to keep his finger off the trigger, then yes the 1911 is indeed "safer".
@@ExVeritateLibertas Mistakes happen. Snagging a trigger on something can happen. You can also choose not to activate the safety if you don't want to.
Also if you're someone who's afraid of forgetting to deactivate the safety in an emergency your also human enough to forget perfect trigger discipline at all times. But I guess forgetting to deactivate the safety doesn't make you an idiot? Am I right? Or I'm also assuming you've never accidentally done/ not done something.
The 1911 does have some flaws. Mainly its limited capacity and weight if daily carrying.
Honestly in my mind the perfect pistol would combined the grip angle, accuracy, and some of the safety features of the 1911 with the capacity and some of the other features of a modern pistol like a Glock.
I can shoot either but I don't like the idea of daily carrying a pistol without atleast a thumb safety. There are more opportunities to have a negligent discharge then there are to forget a safety in an emergency. Both have risks. Which is the more likely and greater risk? Pick your poison.
Honestly while you are correct on the Glock having three safeties they're all passive and take only one action to disengage them all. Simply pulling the trigger correctly.
Most 1911s take three steps. Grip gun to depress grip safety, flick off thumb safety, and squeeze trigger. Some sub-compacts eliminate the grip safety. So that leaves you with two steps.
@@ExVeritateLibertas when conceal carrying, a piece of clothing etc. could get caught in the trigger guard. What happens then? Won’t fire when carrying a 1911
@@TJB270
Something getting caught in the trigger guard only is possible when you are reholsteting. A good holster fully encapsulates the trigger and trigger guard.
Reholstering should never be done in a hurry.
And a bigger issue is that the external safeties can be failed to be actuated in a stress event. Even the grip safety can fail to engage if your grip is not great on draw. There are many cases by the police where THEY failed to properly disengage safeties and they got badly hurt. Or even engaged a safety accidentally when they were carrying.
Thats the most explained video ive ever seen on a 1911....thank you !
No griping here. Good video. Have tried numerous times to explain this to Glock owners to no avail. It doesn’t matter. I do carry a Glock 19, but it’s only due to the weight of the 1911. Are used to carry a 1911 all the time. I still carry the 1911 from time to time. It just depends on the circumstances.
The best part of the video was telling the viewers to stfu about proving the guns are unloaded. Thank you for doing this.
Great explanation, just bought a Dan Wesson and after getting a good education on the mechanics I'll be carrying in condition 1
Took a live fire training course one time with my 1911 and the instructor had a fit about the safety. Never missed the safety for the whole course. Training, training, training and more training. Know your weapon and understand it. Nice video!
The very first pistol which I ever purchased was a 1911 made by Colt in 1923...with the horrible blade front sight, but I found I could shoot far better than the revolvers I grew up shooting. My second 1911 was made by Norinco in China with better sights and was one of the very few makers which Wilson Combat considered good enough to use as a customizable base gun. My latest 1911 purchase is a 1911 by Ruger complete with all the custom features I wanted as stock. This is my favorite carry gun today. I own and have carried Glocks and other name brand pistols, but I still feel most comfortable with the gun I shoot best...a cocked and locked 1911.
I feared for my life when he had that 1911 cocked and locked...seriously thought I was at deaths door watching this through my computer screen...somebody lock this guy up!
during army training with the 1911a1 the instructor loaded and chambered the sidearm, released the thumb safety, and proceeded to throw it up against the indoor range wall, causing most folks there to nearly wet themselves. He then picked it up, aimed it at the target, and hit 7 bullseyes. He then proclaimed the 1911a1 to be the safest weapon he had ever used. the jist of his diatribe was that the 1911a1 does not fire until you put your booger hook on the bang switch. the only 1911a1 I fear is the ones pointed at me.
cheops1292 🤣😂
Yeaaaaah, good way to get relieved of your bullet. Those kind of dramatic things are great, right up the time something goes wrong.
Billet. Damn autocorrect.
Another benefit of the safety on a 1911 is as Mas Ayoob has said for years. If someone snatches your gun during a scuffle, they may not be able to figure out how to deactivate the safety for an amount of time which could allow you enough time to either regain control of the weapon……or RUN!!!
damn good video. Thank you. My pro 1911 argument over glocks just went to the playoffs.
No kind sir... the trophy is hoisted as you smile 😉 because this video does that good of a job
And my mind has been opened to a pistol type I had not considered due to irrational “conventional wisdom”. Also, I appreciate that this vid was short and to the point. Some guys would take 30 minutes. 😖
Thank you! First time I’ve ever had or seen the very inner workings of the 1911 displayed/explained! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I’ve had someone try to argue with me about the dangers of carrying condition one on a 1911, while they were carrying a Ruger Security 9 with one in the chamber. The Ruger Security 9 is a hammer fired gun (internal hammer)! Some people don’t have a clue about the gun they are carrying.
Exactly. My family has a lot of Ruger Mark 1-4 pistols, they work much like the 1911, except has no grip safety. They will carry the Rugers cocked and locked, but with the 1911 hammer being visible, it is just too scary to do.
Definitely not a crappy video bud! Love watching videos from folks who obviously know what they are talking about!
Good info on the 1911, thank you well done
I was just going over the safeties built into every 1911 in my mind earlier this evening, working out my argument for the safety of Condition One. Thanks for posting this! It added to my knowledge and my confidence - not in handling the weapon, but in dealing with idiots.
I carry in condition zero. I use to carry condition one.
I agree.....timeless .....tested and true performance design 110%>>>> like an old muscle all metal and bad ass!I carry a 1911 style RIA 10mm....cocked and locked
What holster are you using
Very detailed video! I have a 1911 and this gave me a very clear understanding of how the safety features work. I've had my reservations about carrying cocked n locked, but I'm more confident about it after watching this. Thanks
Great video bud. Makes 100% perfect sense . My two favorite pistols to bet my life in .....92fs and 1911a1 . Carried the m9 in the service and 92fs as civilian. I knew a bit about the 1911 but have been learning alot more over the last little bit . But I have always enjoyed a hammer on my sidearm . And to be honest if the only reason you have a striker fire is to feel safe cause there isn't a hammer especially after you watch this video you...a.get a rock ,make us all safer ,2.Run ur head into a tree and get some sense or 3. Depend on a very close relative to protect you cause I dont even trust you with a rock. Have a nice day and again great video
"I don't even trust you with a rock" XD XD XD
Thank you so much for this video! I just bought my first hand gun (Springfield 1911 ROE 9mm) and didn't know about how all the safeties worked. After watching your video and another one about conditions, I'm gaining more confidence about how to make hand guns part of my every day life. I'm scheduling my training and it's nice to go in having some understanding. Thanks again!
I like this guy he makes me smile with his polite sarcasm
Great explanation of the 1911 workings. However if one safety lever somehow affects 3 mechanisms I still consider that one safety.
Not exactly but I understand why you say that. The thumb safety blocks both the sear and the hammer. Had you dropped an old gun with enough slop that the impact would disengage the sear, the hammer is still locked in place. The interface between the sear and hammer is very small, which is why you can get such a great trigger out of them. The safety needs to block both to be 100% effective.
the best safety is a functional brain!
well A J that would leave out congress and snowflakes
The best safety is one that prevents the gun from firing pretty much 100% of the time while activated. Shouldn't trust it, but id trust a mechanical device more than an advanced biological processer that makes hundreds of mistakes every hour.
I'd trust my life to a weapon that's easy and fast to operate more than I'd trust my ability to flick levers or pull a harder, longer trigger when milliseconds and the slightest movements can count. Sometimes you either have to trust yourself or complicate things. I might goof when counting change to pay for an item at the store, but after just 1 time chipping a wall with a bullet, I learned not to set my 1851 Navy down and leave it cocked for any amount of time. I also changed where I lubed my weapon. Still, it was no accident I pointed the weapon toward a concrete wall or the backstop in the 1st place. Deep in our minds, we tend to take potential danger more seriously than most things. Memories of dangerous incidents tend to be cemented in our minds and certain things happen to our emotions and behaviors so we continue to survive and promote the survival of the species. I'd even suggest that mistakes could be organized for people in controlled situations to make the ultimate teaching moments. This is already being done in some ways. In schools, mock scenarios like car accidents are acted out to show in a realistic fashion how shit can get fucked up so kids understand the gravity of the situation. Most learn well that way, so when they're adults, they're better for it and don't have to learn the hard way. Paintball or airsoft is a great way to teach the basics of firearm safety, too. If they mess up on the field with a relatively safe replica, they know better what to do or avoid doing if they ever handle a real firearm.
Amen!
The mistake might be forgetting to take the safety off and getting killed.
The argument against the external safety is that it is one more step to overcome in order to fire the weapon. Modern school of thought is that the external safety consideration is in the fact that the firearm is supposed to be secured in a holster as part of the system. Removing it from the holster is akin to "taking off safe". Outside of a holster, yes the external safety is "safer". You can train to carry with an external safety. But many would point out that under stress, many have missed that step. On a gun without the safety, you just aim and fire.
Agreed. Though for my own safety I keep proficient with the 1911 and ALWAYS use the 1911 style of grip. Meaning my thumb rests on the safety so every time it clears the holster enough for the safety to come off, it's off.
One of my friends who works armed security and sits in a truck most of the day, uses a glock and the polymer has started to warp from the heat. No joke, you can look at the gun sideways and see through it. A toothpick will fit through it. I always thought glock was like a bic lighter and a 1911 is more like a zippo. Glock is cheap and everyone has one. The zippo is all metal and stylish, but you have to deal with evaporation. (metaphor for low ammo cap) The best gun is the one you have on you when you need it.
Anti- Hero, dude I love the lighter analogy, I'm gonna have to use it.
2 things I never leave home without: my Zippo and my RIA 1911
It is not from the heat it is called pig nosing all glocks do it except the sub compacts.
Anti- Hero 1911 is the douchebag gun owner who thinks he knows anything's go-to. Muh history, muh 'reliability'. Fuck outta here. Heavy, outdated paperweights
Chris .... lmao okay whatever a glock more reliable than a 1911????? Bahahhahaa
Great video explaining the safety features of the 1911 platform! The way you arranged the parts and described their interaction was perfect for me. Much easier to understand than some of the slick animations I've seen. THANKS!
A fleece jacket string will never make a cocked and locked 1911 go off unlike glock.
Did that happen to you?
It was shown here where a cop's Glock went off when the string of his fleece jacket caught the trigger.
czcams.com/video/R0_qdJ4IDI8/video.html
fucking exactly out of all the reports Ive read about AD from glocks, everyone of them is due to a damn jacket string,
wont ever happen with a 1911 the ONLY way that 1911 is going to discharge is if its in your hand and you are trying to shoot it! end of story
@@joeygonzo This defeats every Glock fanboy's argument that your brain is your safety... I prefer a DA/SA trigger, and a string wouldn't cause it to fire either...
Thank you! Just started using a 1911 and absolutely love it. I was curious about the safety. And thanks for not doing the ridiculous clearing of the firearm before the presentation 🙄.
2:12 i turned the screen to the side... you know.... just in case
lol jk
This is a truly excellent, informative video. I have gained a new comfort level from your explanation. Thank you.
You remind me of my old Flight Chief and that's one of the highest compliments I could pay any man.
Then thank you very much for the complement
Actually best most complete vid and ONLY one with all this loose parts shown and hand animated great job and thank you. I love my XD greatly but I want a 1911 for carry to compliment my smaller car option (Sig P238) which mimicks 1911 manual of arms (operation). For the sake of consistency. YOU, did better than Masaad Ayoob, Bill Wilson and controlled other people who explained well but not clearly, with parts and the office that I thought the whole time I empirically FEEL safer with the idea of a switchable safety I chose to turn off, to unrelated to the gripping or firing by trigger. You confirmed my logical evaluation compared to cockefed stiker guns I have and others mimicking Glocks. I love my XD Single Action trigger and it was close as I could get to a 1911 concept in a Polymer Striker pistol thank you, you helped me see clearly that the 1911 is not only safe chicken but actually more naturally controlled than the trigger paddles alone on Glock clones. I like the grip safety so I like it on the XD. I like the idea that I decide when to disengage the thumb safety and make the gun free to fire. THANK YOU!
Imagine needing a manual safety to feel safe. Yikes.
No matter which gun you carry you need to train appropriately with it.
Exactly. Failing to train is training to fail
Great video! I kinda knew most of this, but your video made it really easy to understand. I know my Glocks inside and out, but wasn't as clear on my 1911s. Thanks.
Good explaination of what I have been hearing a lot... but now I understand! Thanks!
Check your fire, on the 1911 series 80 the firing pin safety is deactivated by the trigger pull. There are two levers in a 80 series safety. The Schwartz type safety deactivates through the grip saftey, I have never seen a Schwartz safety on a 1911 but I have read about them. I do not know exactly how the Schwartz is set up, but you can probably find out about it on the net. Got to be a good schematic somewhere.
Correct. Kimber, Colt and S&W used that system on and off evidently. I think Kimber stuck with it in the Kimber II's. For those not 'above average' familiar with the 1911, I dont suggest they remove the firing pin block. None of my 1911's have a firing pin block but again, i build them for kicks and giggles and do not carry one for defense.
By definition a series 80 is deactivated by the trigger. The grip safety style like the Kimber is called a Schwartz firing pin safety. I dont buy either since I had a Kimber fail to fire due to its firing pin safety. Its 70 series all the way for me. Good video.
Series 70 hands down the best trigger in existence
While this is an older video…very comprehensive…thank you.
Good video. I like your comments about safety checking the guns, I feel the same way. As if you would upload a video after being shot. LOL
Achisachis73 and yet those videos do exist
The 1911 is the safest and most accurate handgun I own. I’ve never understood why people think a cocked striker fired pistol is better than a cocked 1911. I guess it’s because the 1911 hammer is visible and in your face. But the 1911 safety system is light years above a striker-fired gun.
Only a person who knows nothing about guns would say that. You can't just say "striker fired" because there are tens of different variations between guns. Let's take Glock for example. If the safety of the firearm is concerned, Glocks are light years ahead of series 70 1911's. Glock has a firing pin block that prevents the striker from hitting the primer unless you pull the trigger. The striker is not fully cocked so even if the trigger AND striker safety were to fail then it still wouldn't fire. Also it has a drop safety. Series 70 1911's only safeties disengage or block the trigger. If the sear was to fail then the gun would fire. Is that likely to happen on a well built 1911? Of course not, but the Glock still has more safeties to make it near impossible for the gun to fire without the trigger being pulled.
LOL Good video, Thank you. I have considered converting my 1911's to series 70 but then I can shoot fine with them as is so I haven't. I must admit I was worried about getting shot through my phone as I watched this video. Until you explained the Internet safety. I'm also glad a busload of nuns didn't set a church on fire.
This. Great mechanical explanation of why it’s 1000 times safer to carry a live cocked and locked 1911 than it is to carry a striker fired live. It’s why my edc is a Kimber micro 9.
1000 times? Yeah right. A Glock is extremely safe to carry hot. So is a 1911.
I own both Glocks and 1911s. You're totally right. I carry the 1911 everyday. It's a series 80. No problems with the trigger pull. Smooth as silk.
kichigaisensei most of them are. Hard not to like a 1911.
ahh...8 yr old video and am about to learn something new! I could never carry a striker fired polymer one in the chamber but i have a 1911 and been thinking about this. Thanks for the education!
like an old camaro or mustang! great analogy!
I've been shooting for over 50 years, and never had it explained like this. Thanks.
Any weapon is only as safe as the person who handles it. 1911 or otherwise. Anyone who claims
any weapon is 100% safe is wrong.
Juan Alvarez, yeah well, nothing is fool proof. Fools are ingenious in their stupidity.
All he claimed was that a 1911 has more safety precautions than a glock, and then supported said claim. Nobody said anything about 100%
Juan Alvarez eh... aah.... eeeh... what...we have here, is failure to communicate.
your explanation of the block made me realize how autoseers work
My same feeling on the grip angle. Nice 1911 and video btw!
The second safety saved my brother‘s life. There’s a lot more to it than that but that’s a basic way to break it down.
you can blame a lot of the ignorance of people on the lack of training now a days. when i was young you could bring your guns to school. The local sheriffs department would hold firearms safety classes on campus...
The good ole days. We could carry one in the truck during hunting season.
Thats what we need to do again
Was there a shag carpet and an avocado fridge inside this classroom?
James Stewart all this thanks to childproofing generation of parents and marketing. Was no such thing when I was growing up.
Yep!
Nice demonstration. I like my striker-fired pistols and my series 70 1911, but for carry I prefer my DA/SA CZ-P07 with a decocker, round in the chamber and decocked.
Thank you from Brazil. The best explanation in my life about 1911 and glock.
Thank you for a very excellent video, today purchased my first 1911, your video has educated my fear away.
Shooting through the camera
hahahahahahha
Loved it
Excellent video. Easily understood. I recently purchased a Sig Sauer 1911. I have other Sig's, but not a 1911. Like many shooters new to a 1911, I have/had a mental aversion to carrying cocked and locked. This video reduces my concern of cocked and locked. Thank you.
as a glock owner,i always thought it was fool proof. you are rigt though,all based on triger finger. great vid
thank you, A glock owner that does not get offended. I appreciate the comment.
Both guns are good I just happen to just like the 1911
it is fool proof, only a fool touches the trigger when not intending to fire.....does not matter what gun you have.
@@acesilverbuyers7920 Ive had 1 AD with my g26 gen3. its been my edc for 3 years its 19 years old never had a malfunction (glock parts only) other than the wifey limp wristing it . yes i do not feel safe appendix carrying after seeing a nra shoot match forget who it was, but the shooters glock( unknown model and specs) but damn thing went off in her holster as she was taking position. ive noticed the 9mm round will get jammed all the way into the chamber where u cant see it. i racked her the standard 4-5 times pulled the trigger and boom. had a hornady critical defense go through the master bed room floor. grazed the living room window with out any damage to the glass. with the round finding its final resting place 3 floors down in the foundation of the basement about the size of my index finger...needless to say i always visually verify when loading/unloading and safe checking the muzzle into the ground.
only if it was modified could it fire in her holster with out a trigger pull. Other than your accidental discharge( which sounds like am ammunition problem to me), every other thing you just said is supreme bullshit Jeff
I've carried a Remington 1911 r1 for 2yrs chambered with the hammer down with the delete and a trigger job and being throated and polished, because of fear of the unknown, after watching this video I will be carrying cocked and locked with 100% confidence thank you sir for the very informative video
there's a reason why the 1911 is still being used in the military, because it is proven and reliable. I'll take a 1911 over a glock any day. 1911s have been in service for over 100 years and I'm pretty sure that if they were dangerous, they wouldn't have been given to the Marines. If glocks are so "GREAT", why is the Army using Sig Sauers?
Alex Rmz the army uses sig because you can't trust a bunch of grunts with a gun that lacks a manual safety like a glock.
Because the government is cheap. The sigs were 102 million dollars less than the Glocks. Also the Glocks didn't meet the requirements they weren't modular. Also we're still good we've got FBI, DEA, USMS, ATF, Navy SEALS, British Forces, 65% of America's police force, and a shit ton of other countries.
The US Army replaced the 1911 in 1985 with the Beretta M9. They've now adopted the Sig. I served in the Army and VA Army National Guard for 5 years and the only 1911 I ever saw was mine, or at the gun store.
The US military had a set of standards since 1908, just prior to the 1911 adoption. The gun must have a hammer, a safety and the grip safety was added onto the 1911 in order to adopt it. The Beretta 92 won the contract in 1988 as it fit the requirements and fired the NATO approved 9mm and survived the testing. Last year some of these rules were removed and striker fired sidearms were considered. The SIG won for two reason according to what I have read. 1st was the modular design as the chassis can be removed and fitted into different size grips and slides to adapt to specific needs. 2nd was the minimal tooling needed to maintain the SIG. The Glock declined the support and the armory costs to tool the gun for repairs and upgrades was going to cost way too much. Basically Glock gave them a hybrid gun and thought the name "glock' made them a shoe-in. Sig offered service and support and was cheaper to maintain and offered a modular design. This information was pulled from a gun magazine article I read this past year.
Alex Rmz if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
If someone is going to have a negligent discharge of a gun a safety ain’t going stop that but a safety will definitely stop someone from defending themselves in a stressful situation.
5 safeties... I agree the 1911 is safer than my striker fire. It feels better too in my hand. Thanks for the video.
l will be purchasing a 1911 soon I hope. After watching your video I will not hesitate to carry cocked and locked.
took my glock, p99, and 1911 to the range. man, it's a bitch training with 3 total different platforms, especially the mag release on the p99. I stick to carrying only my glock or shield because it's what I train most with. but you can't deny the 1911 platform.
I love my 1911 not because its a 1911 but because it is comfortable and reliable my glock 19 is the same way just not as comfortable as the design of the grip but still very reliable as well
theshapeexists yea my only gripe is size and weight on 1911. And capacity. And easy of cleaning and easy of use. The Glock is just stupid simple. And I believe in KISS. KEEP it simple stupid.
The 1911's thumb safety blocks the sear, but it isn't a true hammer block. It may or may not prevent the hammer from falling if the sear were to break. People have tested it, and the hammer will usually push the safety into the off position and continue to fall. It may or may not slow the hammer fall enough to prevent it from igniting a primer. One person who did a test said:
"I did a test on that a few years back, and using standard CCI primers
(not the ones that they market as Mil-Spec, which are a little tougher
than their standard fare) it took 36 repeated hits to fire a primed
case. Another test on Winchester primers required 22 hits...and Federal
required only 5."
That's why I've left my Series 80 parts in my Colt Government Model (along with the fact that I didn't notice any difference in the trigger pull, i.e., the trigger pull feels equally good both with and without the Series 80 parts), because if the sear were to break while carrying cocked and locked, and the thumb safety neither stopped nor slowed the hammer down enough to prevent it from firing the gun, the Series 80 plunger would be a last line of defense which would absolutely prevent the firing pin from striking the primer, due to the trigger not being pulled.
I've watched this several times and it's just good common sense stuff. Where did common sense and brains go in this world ? Especially with shooting community
The older I get, the more I realize what a rare and precious commodity "common sense" is. I guess we need to come up with a new name for it.
Thank you! Very informative, & understandable illustrations, & seemingly good logic. I'd love to hear a rebuttal to those points, but so far, you've convinced me!
how about all guns are safe if the owner understands how to use each model manufacturer correctly
Some guns are more safe than others. If you think otherwise you have been brainwashed by Glock. Glocks have a lot more AD's than DA/SA pistols and revolvers.
Ramon Hernandes thank you, finally a person with some sense
sycamorebacker1 see how stupid you are there is no such thing as an AD, dumdass
evan marks, why is there no such thing as an accidental discharge?
Exactly...also the reverse is true...Bottom line...know your firearm. Know it so well it is second nature. From a Hi Point to a hi end..I keep my 1911 chambered but not cocked. Practice that way. Under 1 second to draw and fire. If you prefer another way..practice REGULARLY that way...we all have our reasons for carrying and for what we own. Makes life interesting.
I know this is an old vid, but on a Glock the firing pin is at “half-cocked”, and pulling the trigger pulls it to “full-cocked” before the sear releases the pin and fires. Also a 1911 isn’t drop safe, to the extent some manufacturers uses titanium pins to lessen the chance of inertial firing. That being said the 1911 is quite safe cocked and locked as you said.
Correct. Glocks are technically a double action. I'm on the fence calling a double action a safety but I could easily argue that it is also. Funny thing, since I made this video I have added a G26 to my gun collection. I tried to make it clear from the beginning that the video isnt a glock bashing video, that they work well.
@@fillupread I think most guys have both a Glock and a 1911 in the safe lol.
Glocks are never really “cocked” so they will never go off even if dropped. They and the sd9ve are double action
Grip safety is a great feature for IWB carry. That's why I like the XD's as well. That SC NC dialect you have is funny. Words like "mash" the trigger...I only know because I originally hail from there as well.