Great video! The term 'non-native speaker' does carry a negative connotation and your suggestions are really good, focusing on positive things, i.e. that we are qualified, experienced and bi/multilingual. I'm going to start using these terms.
This seems like solid advice for qualified teachers of English who are not native speakers I don’t really see how a preference for native speakers is a prejudice or unjustified, however, simply because language learning is for the most part not a deliberate memorization of rules and vocabulary but rather an intuition acquired through many hours of listening and reading and therefore highly dependent on quality of input. There is no shortage of non-native speakers capable of teaching English grammar better than most native speakers, but this is only a small albeit helpful component when used in moderation. Even a native’s mistakes reveal something about the authentic way the language is used in their country, and it’s hard enough to learn good pronunciation even when exclusively listening to native input. It really is an unfair advantage especially if your native language is not in high demand, but it’s not really anyone’s fault. It’s not something you can dismiss as “prejudice.”
Sir. I made a presentation video for an online English teaching website. Where I mentioned that "that there was a time when I myself was not good at english. My english was broken but I was passionate about it, I dedicated myself, invested my time and energy and here I'm now talking like a native english speaker". And then there is this other part of my video. Where I say "English is a language it's not a science and I know the biggest that we commit as non native english speakers while learning english, but with the right guidance and practice you will achive your desired results" does it sound convincing? Or shall I edit some parts??
I teach English at schools, and therefore struggle to call myself "English teacher" as it might be confusing: my degree allows me to each EFL/ESOL but not. English as Language Arts. So I call myself EFL/ESL teacher. Would you say that might be a disadvantage in some contexts?
It depends where one is searching for a job. If you’re planning to find work in Thailand for example, they’re very specific on their requirements for NESs. If you’re white (yes it makes a difference ), a non-NES and apply for a NES-only job in Thailand, you won’t get the job. You delay the inevitable because they’ll soon find out you’re a non-native from your passport and accent.
Thanks for this comment. There are several options here. First, you could simply apply for a job that doesn't specify the candidates mother tongue. You could also email the recruiter explaining why you're the right candidate for the job and why 'non-native speakers' should also be considered
@@TEFLEquityAdvocates Indeed. Actually some of the best teachers I've worked with at International House (IH) have been NNES Russians. They're amazing, kind, and dedicated. What does set them apart in this affirmative conversely affects them the other way around. Although they can teach most NES teacher I know under the table, they seem to still lack that very fine nuanced gymnastics that only NES have.
@@TEFLEquityAdvocates I didn't mention anything about one's ability to teach. I'm referring to the small idiosyncrasies of English that NNES lack. The NES will always have the upper-hand with the nuanced minutiae of the English that a NNES obviously doesn't have. And it is as such why legitimate schools prefer only NES. They simply operate in their L1 naturally whilst NNES, however adept, will never be able to do it.
@@lostmoon77 if what you're saying is true, then what's the point of studying with a 'native speaker' teacher if no student will ever be able to get to their level anyway? Legitimate and well-respected schools hire the best teachers, regardless of where these teachers happen to have been born.
Great video! The term 'non-native speaker' does carry a negative connotation and your suggestions are really good, focusing on positive things, i.e. that we are qualified, experienced and bi/multilingual. I'm going to start using these terms.
That's great Tiago. Really glad the video was helpful
I was going to respond to all your points in your responses to me but you appear to have deleted them all.
This is a lovely first step into breaking the cycle. Most places unfortunately look mostly at color, passport, and accent when it comes to employment.
Thanks! Indeed, it's just one step
This was very useful for me with regard to building up my confidence. Thank you
This is a really thought-provoking video! Thanks!
Thanks a lot! It's a very motivating video 👍
This seems like solid advice for qualified teachers of English who are not native speakers
I don’t really see how a preference for native speakers is a prejudice or unjustified, however, simply because language learning is for the most part not a deliberate memorization of rules and vocabulary but rather an intuition acquired through many hours of listening and reading and therefore highly dependent on quality of input. There is no shortage of non-native speakers capable of teaching English grammar better than most native speakers, but this is only a small albeit helpful component when used in moderation. Even a native’s mistakes reveal something about the authentic way the language is used in their country, and it’s hard enough to learn good pronunciation even when exclusively listening to native input.
It really is an unfair advantage especially if your native language is not in high demand, but it’s not really anyone’s fault. It’s not something you can dismiss as “prejudice.”
Thank you, Marek. I love your videos and I share many of your ideas.
Thanks so much!
Good video. Just to let you know, people speak Portuguese in Brazil.
Wonderful video
Loved that!
Sir. I made a presentation video for an online English teaching website. Where I mentioned that "that there was a time when I myself was not good at english. My english was broken but I was passionate about it, I dedicated myself, invested my time and energy and here I'm now talking like a native english speaker". And then there is this other part of my video. Where I say "English is a language it's not a science and I know the biggest that we commit as non native english speakers while learning english, but with the right guidance and practice you will achive your desired results" does it sound convincing? Or shall I edit some parts??
thanks bro
I teach English at schools, and therefore struggle to call myself "English teacher" as it might be confusing: my degree allows me to each EFL/ESOL but not. English as Language Arts. So I call myself EFL/ESL teacher. Would you say that might be a disadvantage in some contexts?
I use bilingual speaker instead. I’ve learned Filipino and English both in school and at home.
That's great! Definitely better than non-native speaker 👏
No I don't.
It depends where one is searching for a job. If you’re planning to find work in Thailand for example, they’re very specific on their requirements for NESs. If you’re white (yes it makes a difference ), a non-NES and apply for a NES-only job in Thailand, you won’t get the job. You delay the inevitable because they’ll soon find out you’re a non-native from your passport and accent.
Thanks for this comment. There are several options here. First, you could simply apply for a job that doesn't specify the candidates mother tongue. You could also email the recruiter explaining why you're the right candidate for the job and why 'non-native speakers' should also be considered
@@TEFLEquityAdvocates Indeed. Actually some of the best teachers I've worked with at International House (IH) have been NNES Russians. They're amazing, kind, and dedicated. What does set them apart in this affirmative conversely affects them the other way around. Although they can teach most NES teacher I know under the table, they seem to still lack that very fine nuanced gymnastics that only NES have.
@@lostmoon77 teacher's first language is irrelevant to how well or badly they can teach 😊
@@TEFLEquityAdvocates I didn't mention anything about one's ability to teach. I'm referring to the small idiosyncrasies of English that NNES lack. The NES will always have the upper-hand with the nuanced minutiae of the English that a NNES obviously doesn't have. And it is as such why legitimate schools prefer only NES. They simply operate in their L1 naturally whilst NNES, however adept, will never be able to do it.
@@lostmoon77 if what you're saying is true, then what's the point of studying with a 'native speaker' teacher if no student will ever be able to get to their level anyway? Legitimate and well-respected schools hire the best teachers, regardless of where these teachers happen to have been born.