Axis Review | S&S Worldwide New Roller Coaster Prototype Test Track
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- čas přidán 10. 11. 2019
- While up at the S&S Worldwide factory, I took a spin on their new concept 'Axis.' This prototype attraction flips riders upside down in a side to side rotation throughout the twisted ride course. What did I think of this brand new creation? These are my thoughts!
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“A cloned concept could work”
Six flags: hold my freespin
Carson Smith wrong person
@@jnonoah4a wait then who's the right person?
@@translucenc3lol482
S-six flags..
I have the privilege of working in the S&S engineering group so I have had the opportunity to ride a few times. It has been a blast! It is crazy smooth and feels like flying! Like a bird being shot out of a cannon. Really cool stuff.
It needs a loop like on dragon fire at Canada's wonderland. Close your eyes and imagine the loop from dragon fire or another coaster similar to dragon fire on this.
@@wendyokoopa7048 A Loop wouldn't fell comfortable on it,I would think. It would have to be so drawn out
Thats awsome...thank you for shereing.
Imagine this thing but with terrain like eagles Fortress that would be the greatest ride ever
This is what everland needs to replace eagle fortress.
Eagles Fortress was already one of the best rides ever made but this will take the cake
@@ArrowThrills E.X.A.C.T.L.Y
As a local, no coaster after 2008. No major ride opened after 2015. We need a coaster which is as good as Eagle Fortress .
They need to hurry up and get this concept into a real park immediately because this is amazing.
We would all want that. However as the saying goes, “You can’t rush art!” or the cliche haste makes waste. I bet it’s gonna be so much more than this tiny prototype.
Lookup “the bat” and see why that is a terrible idea.. I can see that we will see some structural issues with this design but it is definitely really neat in both a engineering perspective and a rider perspective.
I realize it is quite randomly asking but do anyone know of a good site to watch newly released series online?
@Antonio Stanley Flixportal :)
@Leon Allan Thanks, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :D I appreciate it!!
S&S really seem to be pushing to become the next big innovators of the amusement industry. This decade was RMC, maybe next decade will be S&S
Not exactly. RMC was innovative in elements, but for the most part they lack variety. S&S was an innovator for the entire decade.
B&M was the great inventor of the last decade.
@@RoadsFranconia All they did was create a wing coaster.
@@harrisonschneider8333 RMC's great innovation was track--moving beyond the binary of wood and tubular steel, now that we can build a complicated curving 3D shape with computer-aided design. Now, of course, given how great these I-box and Raptor coasters are, other companies are experimenting with similar things. I think it's really interesting that S&S uses RMC I-box track in the Free Spin, and I wonder if we might see more of that.
Sure Axis is cool, but what about the Allies?
r/cursed comments
how is it cursed?
I am so glad someone made this joke
Gav TV r/woooosh
why is this top comment? has nothing to do w/ the coaster, reddit quality
Park looking to buy a coaster: "So how many different things can your concept do?"
S&S Sansei: "Yes"
I honestly could see Universal using this attraction concept for the How to Train Your Dragon roller coaster at Epic Universe.
@@DoswarePictures do a barrel roll.
I feel like it can kind of be seen as a "spiritual successor" to the suspended coaster. The concept looks good, hoping to see one pop up in the near future at a local Six Flags as they seem to be working with S&S quite a bit.
Since this is a prototype and Fiesta Texas is a "prototype-ish" park, I could see one maybe going there, but since its Six Flags idk. They did get the RMC Raptor and the Freespin so maybe.
Dosware Pictures they got the second
@@DoswarePictures that's why I said RMC Raptor
@@DoswarePictures That's not my point. The newer coasters that are coming out most of the time go to FT. Not saying everything does but some. It's a park in the SF line up that usually gets prototypes.
Someone else said that this could be the replacement of Eagles Fortress. That would be insane. Best Arrow ever (sorry X2) replaced by what could become the best coaster ever period.
@@coastercraziness Use to be my home park too. Then I moved out to Colorado. I'm hoping though!
A tight non inverting loop would be so fun
Especially if you flip over when going over the top of it. Coaster-ception.
No a total loop like on dragon fire
@@wendyokoopa7048That wouldn’t be really interesting. I think a corkscrew would be insane!
Taylor: “I do not want to see this with just one layout”
Six Flags: “Allow me to introduce myself”
Imagine a part where the track starts to roll and makes the vehicles stay in the middle, so that you would be going straight and the track is going around you, would be so weird to see
I think a zero-g roll is essentially that and I agree that it'd be very cool.
Then immediately after that make it where the track stays centered and the seats circle the track.
@@adamkendall997 I also was thinking about that! This brings so many new concepts
That would be freaking awsome.
@@adamkendall997 great idea
he wasn't lying when he said he was gonna make a lot of videos about this
Cocoa It’s a brand new concept that has everyone talking! Plus when i’m one of the few who has physically gone there to ride it, might as well take advantage of the situation!
@@CoasterStudios I honestly like hearing you discuss the concept of this, you should keep on making videos on this concept.
This would be the perfect fit for Alton Towers as SW9... imagine if John Wardley got his hands on this!
This concept came out of nowhere and I'm loving it! As you said, so many creative possibilities out there... 🤩
There are several ideas I can visualise but cannot put into words. This is just amazing and can be used amazingly.
They should have a layout like Eejanaika with big inversions and drops.
I feel like these will start to show up around 2022 but we won't be seeing a major or bigger version of this until 2023-2024
One you are becoming legit dude. Can't believe you got invited to this 2 looks awesome I certainly hope we see a full coaster of this concept sometime in the near future
This looks amazing. I love rides that feel like more than a coaster. The way you rotate around the track is almost like you’re flying beside the coaster, instead of being in it.
Forget flying coasters.
Now this is what I would love to see a Star Fox Arwing coaster based upon. It looks like it has that gliding feel that would fit that ride type well.
Spectacular!! It is exciting to see a bit of what the coaster makers are thinking for the future. I just love this concept and hope to see this model become something every park feels like they need to have in order to round out their lineup. Like the invert or the launch coaster has done. Great vid CS. Thanks for opening this window for all of us to peer through!
This is like the cooler version of the 7 Dwarfs ride at Disneyland
I am amazed by this prototype
almost everything is cooler than the 7 dwarves ride.... namely the one at disneyworld though, that's a really terrible coaster....
Garry Courtney ...so right, man. Not even my 7 yr. old likes that 7 Dwarf’s ride. He does get a kick out of Goofy’s Barnstormer, though...
I’m sure S&S really appreciates you bringing their concept to the GP. Thanks for covering this project, I really hope to see one of these in a park soon!
A barrel roll on a straight piece of track
The type of coaster this reminds me the most of is the old Togo Pipeline coastesr.
Congrats on 150k bro! So cool to see you grow as a channel, keep up the great content. Ain’t no one else in the community getting this kind of access rn :)
Dude when you showed iron dragon I had thought: how much longer is Iron Dragon's service life good for? If they continue tearing down and replacing coasters by Arrow I could see one of these in Iron Dragon spot with some sweet maneuvers over the water.
Dude... You make a very good point!
This is such a cool concept! I can only imagine the possibilities with this concept and I hope it leads to something fantastic
Imagine all the awesome themes they could do for these coasters!
Haha
Something to consider with this ride is that it is very efficient when it comes to movement to steel ratio. An inline twist on this gives a similar amount of travel to a corkscrew.
I love this new concept! I can't wait to see new creative track layouts
This is an amazing idea. They can use this concept for pretty much any kind of experience a park could want. Family non-inverting heavily themed story experience (just think about the indoor ride possibilities) to an all out acrobatic freak out for thrill ride nuts. It looks really scalable too with launch vs lift hill (both!) and being able to make compact and large layouts so big and small park budgets could get one of these. It's like what RMC wants to do with Raptor, they're pretty cheap with how much material is needed to build them. S&S could easily create next gen Arrow Suspended coasters just by making a layout catered to non-inverting swinging. Those are dieing out so it would be awesome for that to happen.
I can't wait to see what comes out of this.
Imagine being in an inverted position, and then you go into a vertical loop, but at the top, you swing around the track like it did on the “Inline twist”
That first inversion is probably the closest thing i’ve seen to volcano’s first inversion
Knock, knock Cedar Fair this is right up your alley. Perhaps where Volcano The Blast Coaster used to be!
I hope King's Dominion installs one of these with the air launch and calls it "Hypersonic Volcano XLC: The Blast Coaster"
I think this would be fantastic for Dorney park.
1. Lower capacity won’t be a big deal there.
2. Totally different from anything in the area despite having so much competition.
3. If they are the first park to get it there would likely be a discount because it would be a first of its kind and parks don’t even know if it will be a hit or not. This means Cedar fair wouldn’t have to break the bank for one of their smaller end parks.
4. It’s been too damn long since they got a new original coaster and if they do it right, this could put them back on the map in an area that has stiff competition.
5. If dorney doesn’t get it, six flags or Hershey park will get it and continue to take away from Dorney’s customer base.
Note: I’m not entirely sure if reason 3 Is actually realistic, but I thought I heard prototype rides typically have a discount.
How lucky are you!...I doubt we'll be seeing one in Europe anytime soon but I'm definitely keeping my fingers crossed !
Dude you have no idea how much I want to ride this!! As soon and I saw it my imagination went wild, like you said there are endless possibilities!
I've been on around 150 different coasters so far all across North America and other than X2 or the free spin coasters nothing comes close to Axis. The first park that gets one of these you can bet I'll be there with you in line ready to ride!!!
That's so cool!!! I'm so jealous that you got to ride this.
This seems like this could be a good Superman ride at six flags.
I think the element at 6:58 seems like the best one out of this prototype! It really looks like you'll get a huge sensation of falling when the car swings over the track like that. Imagine that at a much bigger scale and I think type of element would be really really thrilling
This has Six Flags Magic Mountian written all over it.
With all their B&M and Arrow rides, they could do with some S&S goodness.
I hope we gonna see a nice longer layout for that, there are a lot of possibilities, depending on the speed of the train every element will be different. It would be great to see such an attraction in a heavily themed park such as phantasialand, image all the near misses which are possible.
Don't forget the trains will have six cars! Backseat rides would be awesome!!
It's an incredible effort of engineering and simulation to predict the movement of the carriage and influence it by changing minute details on the track
What I really liked with the backward travel on this (even though it was primarily for reducing the braking G) is that effectively changes the inertial properties of the track, so a change of direction results in a fundamentally different ride experience
This looks absolutely sick!
Imagine a raven turn on this thing
That would be awesome! Especially because you wouldn't know which way you were going to flip at the top!
There are so many possibilities! They could send riders through a small track 3 times but give the riders a different ride experience each time!
I’d love to see this at my homepark which is Playland in Vancouver, this would get so many people to come to it, and since they’ve finally closed down the Corkscrew they’d be able to put a new coaster in its place.
Cedar point will definitely look into this...I'd love to see this track over water or some landscapes. S&S good work
i could see this being some star wars pod racing coaster
That would be fun but it would have to be at a Disney Park since Disney owns Star Wars.
Universal and Disney would love this! Imagine the theming. The NEAR MISSES!!
I like the concept. I could see some park kennywood work with S&S again and use their unique terrain to come up with something crazy
This looks terrific. I hope they solved the lateral stress issue that coasters like Big Bad Wolf had. No park is going to want one of these if they're a maintenance nightmare, especially after 2020.
Imagine if these cars were on steel curtain 😶😶
It would be cool to see something like this at Hershey
Thats very cool, swinging over the track must make your stomach drop, thats damn cool.
Looks so fun!
It looks absolutely insane. Like, different from anything we've seen before in the industry. My only worry is in the way the track is shaped. I know this is only a prototype, and we have no clue what a full-scale design is going to look like, but the original Bat at Kings Island didn't really have banked turns, and because the ride traveled so quickly through the layout, the track went through obscene amounts of stress. That last turn on this model, as well as part of the roll, looks like it'd also put a lot of stress on the track and wheels, so I'm wondering how they're planning on avoiding those issues.
This does look absolutely dope, though.
The benefit of modern technology is they can simulate what twenty years of hard wear will do to the track before ever building a physical coaster.
The original bat was only supposed to go to a certain angle though. That was why the shock absorbers were getting destroyed. I know that it wasn't meant to, but the arrow suspended coasters could not do a full 360 even if you flipped the track over. This is able to do a full 360 and won't have anything stopping it from doing so.
That looks fun. Give it some long-ass trains and make a giga with an inverted lift hill. 👍
I stated this in a previous post. This concept would work great in the Giga Coaster sector of the Roller Coaster industry.
Looks amazing. Suspended loading station would be a must, and have a sway locking system while loading. I'd think Cedar Point, Magic Mountain or Hershey as a probable first location. This looks so amazing, I'm guessing the "Big Boys" will be fighting for dibbs.
Looks like awesome fun!! S & S are taking up where Arrow left off.
wow this is actually awesome!
Would you count this as a coaster credit even though it’s not a complete coaster ish
Yes
I first saw this prototype on the ACE CZcams channel and it blew me away. I'm glad you were given this opportunity to not only ride it but also do an extensive set of videos on it, better explaining what's going on and what to possibly expect. Now for what park this should go to... I admit I'm biased in favor of my home park of Six Flags Magic Mountain. But I really think this should show up there first three reasons. 1) Arrow Dynamics' Viper custom looper is getting old and outdated. The queue for it is almost completely empty almost every time I've been there (save that Saturday I went a few weeks ago when the park was almost as filled as Disneyland on an at capacity day thanks to Fright Fest). I can't imagine it's cheap to keep it operating and it's probably well beyond its service life. 2) There's history with Six Flags and Magic Mountain and their building of a similar groundbreaking ride that sits right next to Viper... the ride that bankrupted Arrow Dynamics, X. Six Flags invested a lot of capital into that ride, even though it needed a redesign and Arrow had gone bankrupt, resulting in X2. While it's possible Six Flags could've learned the opposite lesson from their experience with X2 and would shy away from this sort of risk, I don't think this is the case here. S&S, unlike Arrow when X was being built, is in great financial shape. Especially given the fact that they're owned by the Japanese company Sansei, which had just bought Vekoma last year. I also think Six Flags will consider the expense to be worth it given that for what will be probably the price of your usual B&M coaster, they will get a first-in-the-world prototype which would be a huge draw for their flagship park. 3) A new roller coaster tends to be built at Magic Mountain every 3 years. Six Flags made the investment into West Coast Racers back in 2017 with an opening in 2019. Granted, that opening is delayed to early 2020 (much like an attraction at a neighboring park in Anaheim). But the money has been spent and the next project is probably being cooked up as we speak. Given that the next coaster Magic Mountain will likely see will be in 2022, the timing is perfect for S&S to design a potential ride at Magic Mountain (probably on the Viper site) and propose how much it will cost Six Flags to build.
So yep, I'm thinking Six Flags Magic Mountain will be the park that gets this ride. Again, I admit I'm biased seeing as I live in Los Angeles and love that park. But the need to replace the aging Viper, the history of building a ground-breaking ride at that park, and the timing for the need of a new ride all make for a convincing argument that it will go there.
I really hope King's Dominion decides to put this in the place of the former Volcano Coaster. Maybe even with some intricate themeing.
I hope they install an Axis ride in the Polynesian area of PortAventura, my home park 🤣
Keep up the good videos! Your going places.
It also reminds me of the new Vekoma flying coaster they are developing at Phantasialand, that will have a sideways track portion as well.
Air launch variant for Six Flags New England 2021?
Too soon we probably won't see this thing until 2023
I wouldn’t be surprised is Magic Mountain got one of these in 2021 for their 50th anniversary. Since they just removed green lantern, they could also remove tidal wave and that opens up a pretty good plot of land. I can imagine this coaster being pretty compact. Six flags has been working with S&S a lot in recent years so it would only make sense
US:
Nah that coasters to weird for us
EUROPE:
Oh bloody hell this right here is a masterpiece
I would love to see theming with this, you can be way more dynamic with up-close decoration and props looking like they come right at you.
Oh and ofcourse: THIS IS VR WOULD BE SICKK
This concept is the best thing i have ever seen. I think this would be a perfect fit at Ceder Point in Ohio.
Great review as always taylor, you present your videos as if you’ve been doing this for decades buddy. So polished and easy to understand , i much prefer these in depth analysis than simply watching an on ride review where there’s nothing but annoying middle aged men shouting “weeee loop de loop” I equally enjoy theme park world wide and theme park crazy, you 3 have all got bags of charisma and likability 👍
thank you so much!
Layouts - you can stack the track in certain areas to save space. Possibly even double back on itself. Maybe even have two tracks sharing the same center support path, and have them do chicken going toward each other in a roll.
This looks like it would be an amazing ride! I would definitely ride it ;)
This looks like something universal or Disney could add a lot of theming to
Yep It seems to be crazy good, and it doesn't seems to make you sick at all. Only the good stuff.
Kings dominion should grab this as a replacement for Volcano 🌋R.I.P
Love your vids!
So cool 😱
It could break the record for the most inversions on a coaster because it wouldn't affect us as much as it would on a normal coaster but it would still be fun
axis parody next?
i think that this is a good candidate for a new ride for cedar point. add a lift hill, add some more rows, etc, and you have a ride that’s actually a decent candidate for the park.
likely it’d come after whatever big addition that’s likely to happen in 2021, but by then, the folks at s&s will probably have figured out more that they can do with this and will be able to launch this model. yes, cedar fair hasn’t worked much with s&s in the past, but they didn’t work with rmc until 2018 if i remember correctly.
other than an rmc t-rex or a launch coaster that’s not a strata, this is next on my list of rides to put at cedar point. bigger trains or more of them and a large layout you can run 4-5 trains on, and honestly it’d be an epic ride anywhere, but we know the folks at cedar point will help make the layout as amazing as it can and should be. if they remove iron dragon, which i think will happen sooner rather than later, maybe this could occupy that space? it would be Very cool to have it go over the water and add a water feature that goes off when the train passes by, dip towards the water and make it feel like you could reach out and touch the water, et cetera.
4:35 well it likely _could_ be an inversion in an Axis, too. The designer ought to be able to make the seat fling around in almost every possible way, thanks to inertia, by picking appropriate track geometry right before an element.
Heck yeah! Put it where the Vortex was at Kings island!!
this is a great coaster to make the worlds first launch that does a full inverting twist!
I have neck issues so I'm careful what i ride and how so this looks amazing! How Would you describe it compared to gate keeper at Cedar Point? Loved that. Also nintendo land at universal yeah they need to do this!
This is amazing hurry and get these everywhere so awesome
I don't know why, but I really want one of these to have a pretzel loop.
I would love to see this at valleyfair
mainly because it's my home park
I'd love to see something like this in Phantasialand, Germany, bc I'm pretty sure they'd absolutely destroy all competition in terms of scenery with something like this. This could be an absolute banger in so many different themes. However, I don't think they'll ever get one really, A.I.R. needs to come out first, and then there's really no good place to add another well-themed coaster anywhere. Guess Europapark will be more likely to be the 1st one in Europe; or maybe Disneyland.
OMG I need to ride this!
Imagine a tie fighter Star Wars ride...
Apparently one of them has been sold to a park in Europe! We don't know which park it is yet, but I can see this working really well in a park like Walibi Holland, or maybe even Toverland, since we know Toverland is getting a major expansion, but we don't know anything about that yet.
I’m not sure if this thought popped into your mind, but they could build layouts with incredible maneuvers that won’t place as much stress on the track. I also know that Taylor is thinking this design would be perfect for Kings Dominion, and I agree.