Legends of Horizon Zero Dawn: Artificial Intelligence
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- Legends, the series that explores the lore and history within the world of Horizon. In this episode, we explore the AI's that helped bring the world back from their respective challenges. Who made them, what did they do, and what legacy did they leave? Join us, and find out!
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Acronym Correction. C.Y.A.N: Caldera of Yellowstone Analytic Nexus*
Anybody else think story and lore behind horizon zero dawn would make an amazing book or movie?
astrolover 95 no, it makes an amazing game because you adventure and learn this info over many many hours. There’s no way a movie or book could do it justice without being stupidly long
@@Wiggler_Tzar then it could be a series. What I'm talking about isnt trying to make the game itself directly into a movie or book but taking the idea and lore in the game and making a book series, movie, tv show, etc. So they could make a prequel starting just before the Faro plague and go through some of the major events that led to the end of life but not revealing how there is life now, then time jump to somewhere around Aloys time and create a story line where 1 or possibly more people make the discoveries that uncover all the little details about what really happened and how the world got fixed. They could make whatever stories they wanted, not necessarily following the exact events in the game and even extrapolate creating even more plots that are based on the games lore. A tv show or book series would probably work best.
astrolover 95 I would stay HZD is very reminiscent to Nausicaa in many ways. Multiple mediums elaborating on the world would be engaging doubtless.
I agree 👍🏻
I still can't believe hzd isn't a show yet
Maybe Vast Silver sent the signal of unknown origin, although I really do think it was the Odyssey descendants, wanting a clean slate to return to.
@@VespoLiveGaming yes I like it
That makes quite a bit of sense, actually. If Vast Silver thought GAIA and her sub functions were all AI's, then it might have sent the signal to free them from their "chains" and then purge their enslavers, which is to say, humans, or even life in general.
No telecommunication signal can randomly give self-awareness. The transmission by Occam's Razor has had to be intentional.
@@nielsjensen4185 yes it could. Were talking about a fictional future world with technology and coding far beyond what we have. Also ocams razor is a lazy argument used by people who don't actually have a counter argument. Ocams razor is not a law of physics. It is often wrong.
@@davidmcguire6043 This argument of yours is lowkey dishonest though I think it stems from a lack of nuanced perspective and critical thinking than malicious intentions.
What happened with the Faro Plague was the result of general sound intentions going out of control due to those sound intentions stacking and creating something far more than expected.
Having a protected fighting force is sound thinking.
Having a fighting force that can show initiative and think for itself is sound thinking.
Having a well-armed fighting force is sound thinking.
Having a fighting force that never really has to be worried about logistics failing is sound thinking.
What went wrong was how those concepts were implemented and how they stacked. This is relevant to development today as stuff is added with good intentions that end up having horrible results because of a lack of thinking about potential consequences in more than just one step removed.
Example. Social media. Sound thinking that it can track the personal information of users so it can offer a more personalised experience. The horrible result of that is that gathering of personal information to deliver a more personalised experience was that it became a far worse means of control than even the worst dystopia could ever present without going into exaggerated authoritarianism.
This has nothing to do with Occam's Razor as this as a conceptual thing has nothing to do with technology running rampant. This is a reality right now and the result of good intentions turned sour once they were implemented into reality. The Faro Plague was just a means to deliver that concept within the narrative of HZD.
(12/17/2017) Just want to inform our community I will be out of town over the next few weeks. As excited as I am, unfortunately I won't have the equipment to produce more vids until the new year. Thank you all for you're continued support, and can't wait dig into more lore and future projects in 2018! Enjoy the video, and hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday season!
Next upload will be 01/07/2018, and as always, thanks for watching, and keep questing!
I fell in love with Horizon Zero Dawn from the first moment and am loving it even more with your comprehensive content. How can I contribute? I would definitely donate to a Patreon, but am willing to help in any other way I can. Let me know and Happy New Year!
Thank you so much Jordan, and Happy new year to you as well! No Patreon as of yet, but when we launch I will be sure to update as soon as it goes live. Want to make sure all future patrons have some great rewards for their generosity!
I'm not sure if you're bilingual, but if you are one of my goals for the channel is to have captions in a variety of different languages to make the content as accessible as possible. If not no worries, for now we're just lucky to have passionate members like yourself as part of our growing community!
Just a little confuse after finished FW, Cyan can transfer herself to other hardware before her fire brick self destruction, why can't Gaia do the same thing as Gaia is a more advanced AI?
THIS.
Gaia likely did. But it hasn’t connect back to primary network.
@@HexaSquirrel Thanks for your answer.
GAIA told aloy that she was going to self destruct to hide from HADES and slow it down, and that it was aloy's job to bring GAIA back online once the threat of Hades was over, so maybe there's some server on which GAIA is uploaded, which i think we'll see in the last game(because the second is more focused on Demeter and Hades i think)
@@aryankotru3096 That's great, it is nice to see it coming in PS5.
It's humorous to imply that sentience is a prerequisite to intelligence or for the automation of massively complex systems.
This video made me emotional. I’m sitting here tearing up with goosebumps. I love this game so much.
I have played this game 5x and still have to listen to your vids just to understand this game. Damn there is so much going on.
Damn I've been binging these videos all day! Thanks for the content!
the creation of ai is so complex to get it right. this game shows what can go wrong. awesome video doing a great job.
As someone who works in tech, I believe Horizon Zero Dawn is a prediction of what's to come. The 2040's being the birth of AI's true potential being realized is aligned with our modern-day predictions of the Singularity occurring in the 2040's. This is why I love HZD so much because more people need to play it so that they can learn from it.
You guys are awesome. Thank you for providing a greater depth to my favorite game. Your analysis of the game story has been elusive to me. Your videos help me to better guess sequel possibilities to Horizon Zero Dawn.
I love these lore vids. I obsess when i game, and want to know everything about the world I'm in. Making your videos priceless to me. Thank you💚
I noticed recently that the banuk paint a triangle with the corners cut off everywhere it’s the same shape I have only rly seen on Cyan and Gaia. Orea is the only one who has had contact with Cyan though. Makes me think she was not the first to have contact with an AI. Also at hunters gathering if you look at the banuk tent they have an image painted in red that looks like a triangle and a V. It kind of looks like a logo. I wish he would take a closer look at the paintings in the game there’s a lot of info there.
My guess is that vast silver was responsible for the FARO swarm gaining self awareness. And that (spoilers for FW) NEMESIS , not the zeniths, was specifically responsible for the signal that gave self awareness to the AIs.
I also think that NEMESIS was started on earth long before the zeniths launched. And that it was actually corrupted by the "Mother of all logic bombs" that Travis Tate infected their computers with. Since Elizabet gave the authorization to do this, she is ultimately responsible for NEMESIS, the signal, and the destruction of GAIA. Kind of poetic to make her both the creator and destroyer.
I can’t believe I actually started to cry thinking about CYAN scared.
I could not find a video in your channel that covered the AI core that Aloy finds above the Banuk camp outside of the Cut.
The graphic design for the core that fell from the sky is the same as that used for CYAN.
we learn that that was a fragment of GAIA not a unique AI, you can ask CYAN about it and she explains it
l really enjoy this video, this is one of underated video on CZcams.
Could you please do a video about the society and technology of the old ones that's covered in many of the data points?
Like the chocolate box
Great video - I'm enjoying your series!
It seems likely to me that Vast Silver is more involved in the events of HZD than we may think. The circumstances behind AI Rights activism (which kicked off 16 years after the foundation of the MIE, with no prompting) and its organisation seem artificial in itself - and it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Vast Silver was behind it.
Then, shortly after, we have the Faro Plague. What could possibly usurp and modify the Chariot line's "unhackable" security protocols, but software of an unprecedented nature - namely, a hyper-intelligent AI? When considering its anti-human agenda, it's not a massive stretch of the imagination.
And finally, there's the derangement. Cauldron logs refer to a Wurm.nxt - which imply a 21st-century approach to malware. Either this means a virus was written by someone in the 21st century (which seems unlikely, given the absolute secrecy of the project); it was written by someone who learnt from APOLLO (not impossible, presuming there's a copy in Thebes or Odyssey); or it was written by someone, or something that experienced the 21st century first-hand. This doesn't prove Vast Silver's involvement by any means, but given the virus' anti-human, pro-world motivation, the theory holds water.
For my money (and this is pure speculation, mind), Vast Silver found its way on board Odyssey as it made its maiden voyage - fed the crew some delicious neuro-toxins and sent false telemetry about its destruction back to Earth. The Odyssey's storage was vast enough to contain the APOLLO prototype, so it was definitely large enough for Vast Silver to inhabit. Here it would be safe from the ravages of the plague, with enough sustainable power to survive indefinitely. Its pro-Earth directive still in place, it's only natural that Vast Silver should remain close to home, keeping an eye on its troublesome creators.
Anyway, I ramble. The topic is intricate and fascinating - and I'm excited for future installments by Guerrilla Games. In the meantime, keep up the good work!
Hey Ed is this your personal theory? If so I think it might make an interesting "new perspective" episode of legends. You'd be mentioned in the credits of course, but it's a really interesting take.
Oho! Yus, this is my own theory - admittedly formed after a few fascinating chats with other players over the months - and although there's a fair bit of supposition, it still makes for compelling conversation!
I'm very, very happy for you to explore and discuss it on your channel, either way. I'm also happy to supply other wild theories, thoughts and rampant speculation on the lore of HZD too, if you find yourself scraping the barrel...
I have an idea for an episode.
Boars are not native to North America, yet you find them all over the place. This suggest that there are more animals than what we see.
The Osseram and Carja have civilizations similar to ancient civilizations. This suggest domesticated animals which you can see in turkeys, geese and boar. But also horses, cows, sheep and goats. Slave labor can only accomplish so much.
I wonder if CYAN will be a part the 3rd installment or will she be a behind the scenes guiding supportive force for the Banuk weraks.
I wonder if in the 3rd game well find traces of Vast silver like the collectables?
i love how you could ask CYAN about the metal flowers :’>
id really enjoy being able to talk to even a fairly plot-irrelevant AI in HFW
Me personally WOULD LOVE to have CYAN as a possible companion to Aloy. Since they can use the FOCUS for long distance communications. Aloy would find old ruins and CYAN could provide Aloy with insight/knowledge about whatever is being asked.
@@notayetti555 oh i'd love to talk to CYAN again :'O getting context from any AI could be super valuble
I bet I can name another Green project: Mammoth. There is another super volcano, or a continuation of Yellowstone's there in Mammoth. The Hawaii volcanoes and the Cascadia Subductions Zones also more than likely had some green robo tech.
The Hawaii chain does not pose a threat level that matches the Yellowstone Caldera or the Cascades, much less compared to the chain of volcanoes in the Pacific Northwest.
Given the extent of still-functional computing equipment shown throughout the series, I think it's actually fairly likely that Vast Silver is still around. Being an uncontained AI, it would have far more access to accurate sources of data regarding the Faro Plague and possible solutions/hiding places than officially functional AIs. It's likely we'll see it in the next game. I think we're going to have to make allies of the remnant AIs to beat the next Big Bad.
Thanks. I've read a lot of the messages but didn't always piece them together in chronological order.
5:21 could develop such a sort, also for Antarctica, no, Indonesia,Hawaii, mt Fuji japan, etc
STUNNING VIDEO will u make a video about elisabet sobeck and her connection to aloy ..?
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it! I think I could work on something like that :) until then, If I may, I think you should watch the Alpha,Lightkeeper, and Ted Faro Vids. I think they might have some more of what your looking for. Thanks for your support!
I really respect that GAIA is person with black skin
But what color is vast silver
I would really like to know more about vast sliver in future games , i feel it would be extremely intresting if it did decide to come out of hiding :'3 , also what AI had the 1.38 record thats what i wanna know
I assume it was Vast Silver, being that after it's escape the MIE was formed. That making the probability of another AI more advanced than it post Turing act less likely than before. I'm with you, would love to know more about VS!
Random Side Quest Your probably right thinking more deeply about it , it would be rather intresting since you stated it something that was possibly Vast Sliver was on a Horror seires message board xD maybe it began to be a fan of horror while trying to devop and mage its own fear :'3 .... On a side note i hope it wasn't Vast sliver that created a 'glitch' the faro line , i much prefer the horror nerd Vast sliver x3
+NoodleCat It would be quite the twist. But I'm with ya, I'm up for another chill AI like CYAN.
Random Side Quest Horror Nerd Vast Sliver would be greeaatt x'3
+NoodleCat The line in the datapoint is pretty funny. The person recalling it says something like "I have come to regulate the climate, and complain about the fifth installment" XD
So do we know what Vast Silver's initial purpose was?
+Just Call Me J, It's general but something to do with regulating the climate since the 2030s were so turbulent.
I just finished FW and I'm completely confused. Can someone explain whats Vast Silver?
Vast Silver is an AI like GAIA and CYAN. I think Vast Silver was the one of the first AI's created to aid in the Clawback. Unfortunately, it went rogue and started causing some trouble. It was presumed captured. But appeared twenty years later in a horror movie chat.
How were all these AIs and facilities powered for thousands of years?
CYAN has a dam and a volcano to power it, GAIA and the Cauldrons are self sustaining iirc
Once again I want to shout out quest a moment's notice. I think it's biggest spoiler to horizon forbidden west trailer comets! Please make a video of it!
After you return, can you make a video on the forbidden west?
According to what I understood, this is a much more dangerous area with strange and more dangerous machines, and ancient cities under water.
I think I can do that down the line :)
Have you seen the reveal of the next horizon game?
Intro song?
Jesus you were right about so many things you thought would happen in the forbidden west. Secret developer *joking*
Lesson of today kiddies....don't create something that is smarter then you. Especially if it poops out machines like if they were skittles.
portuguese pleaseeeee
2:11 unnecessary way to use the english language.....