The Milgram Experiment - Shock Study on Obedience Conclusions
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This study is a great example of why we need to beware of “group think.” It is also important to teach individuality and leadership to kids starting from young, so they grow up into adults who know how to think for themselves.
Thank you! I knew I wasn’t being difficult.
The Milgram Experiment was a fraud, though.
I would partially agree. While group think can be dangerous, there's a difference between groupthink and collective action. Individuality and leadership skills can be important to maintain one's autonomy, but our society takes it to an extreme level of hyper individualism where all of your successes are your own, but all of your shortcomings are your own fault. When it comes to companies, specifically workers, group think and collective action can be a mighty weapon against oppressive corporations
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I know I'm way late but this is wrong, this study was actually done to find out the reason behind German citizens willingness to remove(exterminate) Jewish population most of whom they had never met before, it's a study into human psychology and not a study into what can be done better next time. The reason what I just said doesn't make much sense is because for the most part neither does the experiment, the German population was largely unaware of the actual Holocaust as before the war Hitler's initial plan was to relocate all the Jews outside of Germany, all who did know were those actually in the Nazi party. Hitler and his party were able to convince the German people to despise the Jewish through manipulative propaganda and speeches. As for an example, gobbles convinced millions of Germans at the Sportpalast speech to support Germany's full conversion into total war. Humans are hardwired to group think, out of hundreds of University students in that room it's statistically impossible that at least one of them didn't have sufficient leadership skills. You also can't teach individual leadership skills since that relies heavily on intelligence, which stabilizes at around 7 and is for the most part genetic. What this study can help us do is understand more about humans and why they think the way they do, but that is all it can do
If some participants were "bullied" into completing the study, rather than be a criticism of the study this would seem to only reinforce conclusion of the tendency of people to submit to the power of an "authority" even in defiance of their own ethics.
“It is not so much the kind of person a man is as the kind of situation in which he finds himself that determines how he will act.”
― Stanley Milgram
Experiments as such, have been disproved and declared unscientific due to premeditated resaults. You can find evidence to confirm any theory if you try hard enough, but is it really helpful to convince the world that people's actions are only relied on the situations? Victor Frankl, a neurologist that survived concentration camps, has said that people have the autority to be self-defined in any situation. If anyone wants to see the debunking of such theories, read Rutger Bregman's "Humankind"
@@Captain1065 science explain the reality, the Milgram’s theory explains reality. Frankl, doesn’t.
@@Captain1065 So by your logic most of the German population in WW2 was either to stupid to think for themselves or just straight up evil? Makes no sense. Situations influence a lot if not the majority of your actions.
Imagine being lost in a forest with a someone else. He dies, you don't. You're starving to death. But you're not a cannibal right? Or, are you? The chances that at that point you will do it even though you know its "bad" is pretty high.
Milgram was a fraud.
@@Captain1065 Frankl solely explains that we all have the possibility to choose in any situation. Milgram, in that sense, proves that humans freely choose to obey and be submissive instead of taking action.
Milgram was not oblivious to the psychological needs
of his participants and was aware of the potential harm caused by the
study. Immediately after the study, its true purpose was revealed to the
participants. They were interviewed and given questionnaires to check
they were all right. A friendly reconciliation was also arranged with the
‘victim’ whom they thought they had shocked. This procedure, known
as debriefing, is commonplace today, but this was not the case in
the 1960s. So, in this respect at least, Milgram was ahead of the game in
terms of ethics procedures (Blass, 2004).
Milgram also conducted a follow-up survey of the participants one year
after the study, to ensure that there was no long-term harm
(Colman, 1987). The results showed that 84 per cent said they were
‘glad to have been in the experiment’, and only 1.3 per cent said they
were very sorry to have taken part. Milgram also described how the
participants had been examined by a psychiatrist who was unable to find
a single participant who showed signs of long-term harm. Morris
Braverman, a 39-year-old social worker, was one of the participants in
Milgram’s experiment who continued to give shocks until the maximum
was reached. He claimed, when interviewed a year after the experiment,
that he had learned something of personal importance as a result of
being in the experiment. His wife said, with reference to his willingness
to obey orders, ‘You can call yourself an Eichmann’ (Milgram, 1974,
p. 54).
I started with the belief that every person who came to the
laboratory was free to accept or to reject the dictates of authority.
This view sustains a conception of human dignity insofar as it sees
in each man a capacity for choosing his own behavior.
(Milgram, 1964, p. 851
At the time of Milgram’s study, his research was
investigated by the ethics committee of the American Psychological
Association, who eventually came to the conclusion that it was ethically
acceptable. Notably, however, Milgram’s studies could not be carried out
today, as the ethics guidelines have become more restrictive since
the 1960s
Also there were female studies conducted, and several variations, Milgram clearly wanted the variables as strict as possible for each round of testing to gather concise results.
''Milgram himself addressed the gender issue by carrying out a
study identical to the original one, but with female participants. He
found that women were as likely to administer electric shocks as men''
Josh Graham - Appreciate the follow-up.
What are your sources Josh, I think this is interesting- fascinating!
True. Some of the follow up assertions about the Milgram Experiment repeated in this overview were proven to be false. (Such as the statement that the experiment only involved PAID participants - Milgram proceeded with a follow up Control study where the participants were NOT paid a token fee, and were completely volunteers, the end results were statistically the same.) Also this short animation does NOT correctly show that the "Experimenter"(Another Actor) was purposefully dressed in a Lab Coat holding a clipboard, which gave them a "Uniform" of AUTHORITY. The whole point of the experiment was to see how far people would go to be OBEDIENT to an AUTHORITY. This Animation is deceptive in Not showing THAT. And the "Teachers" were NOT "Bullied" into giving the higher shocks. The "Experimenter" had specific phrases to use at three levels of refusal, each phrase indicated just Authority, and that the "Teacher" had no choice but to continue. The Subjects "Bullied" themselves, because they did not wish to Disobey the "authority"!
Ya nice what is the source
I think he was part of the experiment
This is so much more relevant after COVID
The last two years is a great example of this
Thank you SOOO much because honestly my teacher gave us the original documentary video to watch for homework and it was so boring and long, it all showed the individual participants doing the experiment start to finish. The language was harder to understand and the video itself was boring.
This video on the other hand was visually enticing and explained in simple English with reference to all the applications to real life and also the problems with the experiment.
Again, thank you SOOOOOO MUCH for this video- it’s been a real help for me to understand Milgram’s experiment/ research
Hi
I want to learn about social psychology
Can you please help me
Really appreciate the effort put in the video, it's much easier to follow along, and make notes with this than of from the textbooks. Although I will be reading the text later, this saves time, and makes it easier to study. I hope there are many more experiments in psychology in this channel!
This was so helpful! Currently studying this experiment in psych class and it didn't make much sense until after I watched this video. Thanks a ton!
I'm not sure how the lesson of this experiment would be difficult to comprehended. Please explain further what you mean.
It shows that 65% of the people act like sheep following what ever order is given. The distance them selves by saying "I was just following orders. It was not I who killed but the person who told me to kill that did it." Also, people want to do what ever the group is doing regardless of right or wrong.
I think that some actually enjoyed pushing those levers.
I’m glad he never told a lot of those people that they were actors. It probably gave them a lot of perspective and taught them to be more considerate of the person next to you. I think of the same experiment were conducted today more people would’ve delivered the strongest shock. Most people today follow one ideology or the other without question
? "Yes let's make someone believe they just committed homicide so they can learn a valuable lesson" 🤣
@@Zoinks3245I'm afraid the lesson of the experiment went wayyyy over your head. Do you think people's feelings are more important than discovering how a society can be manipulated into killing millions of people because they don't agree with the government? I'm going to go out on a ledge and guess that you think words physically hurt people.... 😂😂
@@Spark-In-The-Darkno, no I think the word “morality” goes over your head. Thats literally the definition of “it’s just a prank bro”
This helps explain people's unquestioning obedience to authoritative figures.
Not as depressing as it first appears. 18 variations of the test showed that it didn't take much to reduce compliance to 10% instead of 67%. In particular, seeing someone else resist authority, which is why they need censorship and repression of dissenting voices.
True. Sometimes all you need is to see someone else resist to join them.
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What great video! Thanks for your effort. Please create more like this!!!
For many, it is simply a question being in a situation under which they can point elsewhere, at a superior, or the old "just following orders"-line.
The results would be a lit different without the "teacher", and if the person had a free choice to administer a shock, or not.
Can you please make a video on the Schacter's Self Attribution theory of Emotion? Would be really helpful. Thank you 👍
you read my mind. I just learned about this experiment in class
We all lived through a repeat over past 4 yrs. Weather experiment or social engineering training for future.
Sadly, the Netflix documentary "do not pick up the phone" is basically the Milgram experiment in a real sick way.
This study was all about situationism! The purpose was of course to prove that, in a certain context on constrain, of coercion people will follow the orders although they seem to be totally disproportionate... You can also check the video of the experiment itself... It very clearly illustrates the context
Wheres the video of the experiment?
This is why people should know not to become sheep or becoming a follower - I know what it's like to search for a group to follow or need a place to belong but we need need to understand the difference between compliance and obedience and it is okay to say no and just walk away ( well unless they pull a gun to your head) its all about your will and mentality. Everyone says the crown of leadership is heavy burden as well - you are human too. Make an informed decision
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I have a psychology paper due tomorrow. I'm gonna write about the milgram shock experiment and quote this video. Will see what my teacher says lol
Your teacher : what is this ?
You: yes
So tell us what did your teacher say ?
@@Nobody-fy7tw I am his teacher and I said good job
@@Nobody-fy7tw i am his Father, I said great job
This vid really help me. Thanks!
Your voice is soo good!
1:00 I see no Hitler, only Fascist Ferb.
LMFAOAOA
Let me correct the narrator, this study was not about the propensity to commit violence, it was about the responsiveness to obedience. Obedience then leads to violence is the main point, this is a very important distinction.
The study points out the difference between weak and strong.
👏classical experiment anybody studying psychology should know about! For me, absolutely not I can think for myself, but it would be interesting the results with participants being Coerced to move forward versus suggested🤔
Did you get the vax?
What do you think?
Great video. Thanks
What do u mean “ at which point they had no choice to continue” they littersly had every choice to stop. It’s called taking personal responsibility for your OWN actions
3:28 Ahhhh, my favorite type of movies!
Doesn't matters ppl still did it as long as some fellow in a coat says pls proceed.
And it's the obedience that makes gives dictator power , while the one who disobey doesn't do anything to those that does.
What was the whole purpose of the experiment, and what can we learn from it?
Just imagine the possibility that many of the participants probably realised it was all an act.
very nice!
😊
I know there was a female version of this experiment as well, but I wonder if a mixed gender will give a different result. Say a male teacher x female learner and vice versa.
How about relationship? Once paired, give the participant time to mingle with their learner.
What if the only way a learner gets to miss a shock is by the teacher taking their place? How many teachers are willing to step up for the learner?
Will one feel less guilt if the learner was someone that loathed?
Nice repercussions! Could be considered but I dont want this to happen anyway.
There are female dictatorships either
who came here to watch the video after watching Classroom of the elite season 2 episode 3
I was looking for this comment
In the light novel this experiment is explained,while in the anime is only mentioned
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I'm wondering what those others studies were called. He didn't mention it.
I saw the movie years ago and thought it was super interesting but the movie must not be accurate because it had 1/2 the participants as females but you said it was all males. But also I don't think this is entirely unethical if it's explained to the participants at the end that it's just a study. I'm not sure why they let these people believe they did horrible things or coerced them to continue. In the movie they just have a guy who always repeats the phrase "please continue" whenever the participants object or show concern. So after watching the movie, the severity was played down and makes me think it's an ethical experiment but I don't know all the facts so idk anymore
how to reduce the destructive obedience. suggest some steps
Its one way to know Tht should we act accordingly to the government even if it isn’t ethical or right to do!
Great!
For me I wouldn't follow orders if I knew I was causing someone immense pain or risking their life, but at the same time it depends on the circumstance. If my life is being threatened or my families lives were, I'd follow orders. If I was told that I would take their place if I didn't follow orders, I'd probably follow orders. Especially if I saw all the pain it was causing them.
One could argue that not telling participants about actor involvement leads to more authenticity and therefore reliability.
The problem with moralistic judgement is that it’s subjective.
Morals cannot be judged objectively. There are atrocities throughout history that would not have occurred had objectivity in morality been possible, particularly on a collective basis.
Insert analogy about masks here
For sure, but give the new models a try. They developed a groundbreaking technology that doesn't deliberately fatally target your peers. You know, like all the previous ones did.
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2020/2021...
well depends on situation if I would get paid why not I don't care it's maybe weird but I wouldn't feel remorse but if I they would just ask me if I would like to try experiment or something like that I don't know what they told them to make them work with them in this experiment but If I would have reason of course you need to calculate what could happen how you benefit from that etc... I would probably do that but not bcs he told me and iam scared of him so I do that I would do that if I would benefit from that or if I would be bored and this could give me new expirience that's my opinion how I see that.
Also sorry for my English but it's not my main language but iam pretty sure it's understandable
Why I didn't enlist in the military
They just did it on a mass scale
What is the aim of the stufy?
Study*
Not PHYSICALLY harmed in the study! God, I’d be traumatized! 🤭
'Safe and Effective'
Safe and secure? But yeah very effective.
0:01: yes I would
2:45
"Just doing my job"
Could you please share these slides???
How do you witness the atrocities, from thousands of miles away?
He must have caught some of the broadcasts that's all I can think. Am used to bounce like a bad boy even back in the '90s.
Modern physiologists complained the study wasn’t effective because participants were coerced and bullied into delivering the shocks?
Wasn’t that kind of like…the whole point tho?
I would use real shocks so nobody is upset if they find out they have been concerned for nothing. 😂
Authority driven
Would you give someone a deadly electricshock - No, would you follow orders just to commit a violent crime against an innocent person if someone told you to - No, or what about would you support an unjust cause just because someone told you to - No.
Дали експеримента е приложим и когато някой цъка видео игри - има някои сходства, измислени авторитети ти дават мисии???
For myself. I would be prone to give the maximum shock if encouraged to do so. I know myself and that is my nature. I would not actually do it however because of my religious beliefs. Good religion makes better people and a better society
Of course NO ONE BELIEVES they would participate in a study like this, and just trust the doctors word over the clear distress of another human being. I agree, I'd hope women in general would more likely refuse.
I wouldn't be surprised if a higher percentage of women administered the higher shocks. If you think about how women were conditioned during war to shame men as cowards who didn't go or dodged the draft regardless of the reason, it's pretty clear women can be just as callous if society at large approves of it.
Problem is with someone like me I would immediately use the highest shock level and figure out it was staged.
This study makes sense for money because of his original idea with WW2. The individual’s participation in what happened was compensated because they where in the military, plus the fear of disobeying orders. There isnt a “Ethical” way to hold this style study because its already at the roots unethical.
2:45 4:00
2:53 sunny omori???
I wonder how many willingly went to the end? Id like to know the likely percentage of psychopaths out there...
I heard they did an experiment already with women, and found they were way more likely to just follow rules
Hey
You said that a reason to disqualify the experiment is that all the participants were payed… How much? If you say that you must tell how much, don’t you think? Also, the ending question, it’s a wrong formulated question, as you are trying to show that that was the question the participants were facing off, but no, it’s very different, probably if you would have asked them after torturing that man, they would have said they would never do something like that, not even for a lot money.
This experiment was later repeated with a experimenter WITHOUT a lab coat! And it showed that people much earlier refused to continue. We where teached to follow orders from "authorities" in lab coats or uniforms.
Since I was a kid I was always suspicious about authorities and always asked : "WHY"? If the given answer would not be satisfying or seemingly not logic to me I always refused.
Thinking "out of the box" caused me a lot of problems. But I stll thinking for myself was my best way of living my life.
Have to explain : my Dad was a "Nazi believer" until his death with age 84.
And I hated it. Because I know the whole story what happened back in the days in Germany from different sides, viewpoints and eyewitnesses.
the experiment was replicated with women and the results were similar
Outlawed. Love. Red Pill. Matrix Crew. Trinity and Neo.
Every. single. time.
If it is mentioned in YT Germany all Artikels get deleted
This experiment proved, that 2/3 of population are able to do horrible things if ordered by authority. Luckily I'm from the 1/3 of population, that does not need the order.
Ahhh, so THAT'S what has been happening these past few years. Huh
Coerced and bullied and incentivized..... Kind of seams like today's mandates.....
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This is why most people need to choose veganism 🌱
I always talk about this experiment when people tell me that humans are inherently good, which is evidently not true.
You should read Rutger Bregman's Humankind though, he said that the participants were hesitant but most kept on going because they thought & believed that it was an science experiment that could help humanity.
@@semilysfairy4670 the road to hell is paved with good intentions
@@semilysfairy4670 denying your darkness, feels good doesn’t it?
first like and comment since i have nothing else to comment
The idea that he didn't tell anyone AFTER the experiment was over, that it was an actor, is pretty messed up. The fact if he had done that, I don't see any problem with this experiment because it doesn't actually hurt anyone. Just give good data. The only people that got hurt during this were the ones that psychologically got hurt because no one told them that they didn't commit a horrific act.
Wrong information. Milgram did experiments involving women as subjects, and the obidience level was as high as men. Milgram actually performed several variations of the experiment and understanding his obedience theory is not possible without exploring all the variations.
Critical thinking is becoming less and less...its sad
Welcome to 2022. This experiment is actually being played out. The 80/20 rule
This is definitely happening with the whole virus thing now.
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The 67% are an interesting facet of human life.
He should have experimented on Gas instead of electricity , yk, put the actor in a room and inject gas(fake) as the experiment goes on. That must have given the psychologist some peace of mind.
Anyone scoring over 104 on the IQ test does not qualify for a job in law enforcement.
AI will see this and realize you don't need robots to control the world
Pay close attention, law enforcement.
No way!
Who else came from the TED show?
Do this experiment now with Republicans and Democrats. I’m sure we’d be alarmed on both sides.
"over 30 years ago" while technically correct, you could have just said "over one year ago" XD
It was WOMEN who were shown to be the highest level of shocks, they stuck it out with the puppies. SO, WOMEN ARENT AS INNOCENT as this generation are led to believe.
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