This Indie Dev RAGES at me in a drunken RANT! - Xio Survival

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  • čas přidán 26. 07. 2021
  • Dirty Bird Games, Developer of "Xio Survival" absolutely lost his mind in DMs in a drunken rant! Here's the story!
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Komentáře • 997

  • @BigfryTV
    @BigfryTV  Před 3 lety +344

    This was uh....a ride. Like the Video and Subscribe for more content!

    • @einfachhonig6284
      @einfachhonig6284 Před 3 lety +4

      You wanna cover Mist Survival? Or Survarium? Would be nice

    • @danielcannon2957
      @danielcannon2957 Před 3 lety +48

      You’re a gigantic bully my man I’ve looked at your past videos and all you do is blow shit out of proportion to make everything seem bigger than it is. You’re rant about the guy sending you 3 emails and you tearing him apart is absolutely ridiculous. You’re not the final say in games but you act like you are. If you haven’t taken the time to develop games yourself then you shouldn’t be as critical as you are. Be better man. Coming from a former fan who left because of the toxic approach to games.

    • @kertuppin2807
      @kertuppin2807 Před 3 lety +2

      Is a Survival game kit V2 template.. Which i moderate.

    • @F3ar3ss
      @F3ar3ss Před 3 lety +2

      Cmon Fry..... dont you know how to
      C 0 D 3???

    • @josephpaulduffey873
      @josephpaulduffey873 Před 3 lety +2

      Remember Big Fry, he's your biggest fan.

  • @TheIcarusFalls
    @TheIcarusFalls Před 3 lety +1067

    I find it infinitely amusing that the guy watches your content and knows exactly what you're about, yet actually thought this would go over well.

    • @tdg710
      @tdg710 Před 3 lety +31

      Dude, that's happened a few times and honestly.. I kek everytime.

    • @Elnegro..
      @Elnegro.. Před 3 lety +8

      Same with the nice chick. Fry and asset flips to this degree don't mix well.

    • @badboygoodgirl
      @badboygoodgirl Před 3 lety +11

      sounds like delusion. they backed themselves into a corner and are putting all their hopes into... this.

    • @Elnegro..
      @Elnegro.. Před 3 lety +4

      @@badboygoodgirl Baby girl I wanna put all my hopes into you. ;)

    • @Lopezthe1STG
      @Lopezthe1STG Před 3 lety +5

      @@Elnegro.. so random lol

  • @Pekskeh
    @Pekskeh Před 3 lety +736

    He works 15 hours a day, sleeps 3 hours a day and still has the time to get intoxicated AND send messages every hour.. A true hustler living the grind

    • @yeezusjesus7617
      @yeezusjesus7617 Před 3 lety +21

      thats why i quit my job to become an indie dev

    • @aurin_komak
      @aurin_komak Před 3 lety +34

      Shrigma male grindset

    • @oliver_twistor
      @oliver_twistor Před 3 lety +28

      I would suggest to him that he should get more than three hours sleep per night. Then he might be more productive and not need to do 15 hour dev shifts. I'm a software developer and my coding and problem solving goes to shit if I have too little sleep. Those extra hours of work aren't worth it, because I often have to redo everything the next morning anyway because I was too tired when I tried to work.

    • @sosig8332
      @sosig8332 Před 3 lety +7

      @@yeezusjesus7617 he was probably sacked for being drunk

    • @Pekskeh
      @Pekskeh Před 3 lety +1

      @@oliver_twistor I was joking brother

  • @maku4814
    @maku4814 Před 3 lety +503

    This happens again and again: This isn't a bad prototype, this could be worked on to turn it into an actual game. Why does the developer feel the need to start a merch shop, trash talk other developers and start a funding campaign...

    • @notatrollll
      @notatrollll Před 3 lety +30

      I liked the snow…. they would need to replace alot of the place holders or it would just be an asset flip mostly, but you are right it is an attainable goal. Dev flipped out and didnt have patience

    • @Mark_nobody3
      @Mark_nobody3 Před 3 lety +14

      For starters, they should replace the hud with their own version including inventory, stats and environment models
      This looks like deadside or dayz

    • @ketchup4471
      @ketchup4471 Před 3 lety +3

      @@notatrollll if you want a quality indy game, try Dead Matter. Set in Alberta, Canada. Has zombies and pvp. Active userbase and active devs, but rn sadly CA is closed. Just keep an eye out for it ;)

    • @LucMantique
      @LucMantique Před 3 lety +7

      Seriously, have a stable working alpha (not pre-alpha) build then start asking for funding through various means. Devs these days just have the bare minimum effort for their pre-alpha build of a game to be used as a quick buck. Back when I tried to develop a game, if it never looked right or I didn't have a clear vision, I'd abandon the project all together, because it's not worth selling an unfinished game. This was after 2 years of development and I never thought it was a waste of my time or effort since you can learn from past mistakes. Experience is worth more than any kind of wealth.

    • @maku4814
      @maku4814 Před 3 lety +5

      @@LucMantique Exactly dude. I work as a game designer in an AA company and I know for a fact that the skills that are needed to create this are more than enough to get hired with a decent salary... instead of asking for money this guy could earn the money doing what he knows and ( probably ) loves.

  • @mrgerman9652
    @mrgerman9652 Před 3 lety +307

    when can we expect "do your research bruv!" merch shirts?

  • @ColdFlame53
    @ColdFlame53 Před 3 lety +195

    Kenshi is what comes to mind when i think of a one man dev team. Literally took 12 years to complete and was everything the dev said it would be. Now thats dedication

    • @mirroredvoid8394
      @mirroredvoid8394 Před 3 lety +15

      and is actually really good despite being a decade old.

    • @excier6074
      @excier6074 Před 2 lety +29

      1 man working on a game to completion for 12 years is some pretty solid kenshi vibes. Probably why the game is so sadistic.

    • @kamikazestryker
      @kamikazestryker Před 2 lety +11

      Kenshi is really great. I honestly cannot wait for Kenshi 2.

    • @IncognitoSprax
      @IncognitoSprax Před 2 lety +6

      Kenshi also is janky is fuck.

    • @Pink_Invader
      @Pink_Invader Před 2 lety +6

      Imma gonna go play some kenshi now. That game is a masterpiece

  • @CodingKaiju
    @CodingKaiju Před 3 lety +109

    As a game developer myself, a difficult lesson to learn was that no one cares how hard you worked on your game. They only care about the end product. Did it look good? Did it run well? Was it fun?

    • @kevg1617
      @kevg1617 Před 3 lety +12

      Indeed, effort is not competence and deserves no reward. Only outcomes deserve reward, this was once taught in grade school, now people have to wait till it is thrown in their face on the job market by someone who cares nothing about your effort, feelings or time.

    • @Calamity_Jack
      @Calamity_Jack Před 2 lety +4

      For sure. Too many people confuse quantity of time spent on a job with the quality of the product they produced.

    • @abhijitsonowal8633
      @abhijitsonowal8633 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Calamity_Jack i mean why not...we aren't paying money for trash just to see assets we want some actual gameplay...yes it takes time hard work but if the end product is shit nobody gives a shit

    • @UltrEgoVegeta
      @UltrEgoVegeta Před rokem

      Three things all devs should strive for. Of and do better with movement animations. Honestly as an enjoyed of games poor movement can be a game killer for me.

    • @Boomer04888
      @Boomer04888 Před 10 měsíci

      ..wh..why is that even a lesson you needed to learn? That's obvious. If I'm a chef and I spend a year working on a recipe that ultimately tastes like toxic waste, I'm not going to expect people to care that I spent a year on it. If I work in construction and I build a house that turns out to be a faulty, ugly pile of sub-par materials, I'm not going to expect people to care that I spent a year on it. Dafuq kinda logic is that

  • @manwithaplan135
    @manwithaplan135 Před 3 lety +269

    "Fry, I quit my job for this-" I would've said "you may need to call them back and apologize"

    • @zcopyz7939
      @zcopyz7939 Před 3 lety +3

      Sheeeesh

    • @aleksandarsavevski377
      @aleksandarsavevski377 Před 3 lety +3

      Lmao what a loser

    • @oneway_sting
      @oneway_sting Před 3 lety +16

      Right! imagine quitting your job with no serious backing financially and no money (clearly had fuck all to begin with) something tells me they just want to make some bank and run off lol

  • @rager1actual43
    @rager1actual43 Před 3 lety +175

    In the words of the late, great, Jim Lahey: "The liquor's calling the shots now, Randy"
    What a dumb. "DeVeLoPeR"

    • @rager1actual43
      @rager1actual43 Před 3 lety +2

      @@_AMT_ 😂🤣

    • @tdg710
      @tdg710 Před 3 lety +5

      I am the liquor, Randy BoBandy.

    • @tdg710
      @tdg710 Před 3 lety +5

      @@_AMT_ I honestly commented mine before I read this. Godbless you.

    • @mrclifton32
      @mrclifton32 Před 3 lety +4

      “SHITBIRDS”

  • @j.b.3113
    @j.b.3113 Před 3 lety +45

    Oldest excuse in the book. "Sorry, I was drunk"

    • @kevg1617
      @kevg1617 Před 3 lety +7

      read: I'm very incompetent and have no idea what I'm doing or how to achieve it

  • @gamemusicify
    @gamemusicify Před 3 lety +223

    This this is why devs need to take public relation classes or hire a community manager I don't care if your a small indie dev doing shit like this will make me complety ignore your game and anything your name is attached to

    • @aj1304
      @aj1304 Před 3 lety +6

      BigFry should make a top 10 list of feedback for indie game devs that think they're the next big thing and when the devs say 'just watch my CZcams' he can reply with a counter CZcams video haha

    • @gamemusicify
      @gamemusicify Před 3 lety +2

      @MJ ALL DAY really depends on what your goals are you can get a basic game going just by watching a few videos on CZcams and places like skillshare

    • @thomasfalcon6350
      @thomasfalcon6350 Před 3 lety +5

      @MJ ALL DAY Making prototypes, especially for such a tired genre as survival is easy, but making a polished product, even to an acceptable early access state is just as hard as it always was. That's why few ever make it. Starting out is easy, finishing is not.

    • @GameDevUE
      @GameDevUE Před 3 lety +1

      @MJ ALL DAY visual scripting and buying templates exist my guy

    • @GameDevUE
      @GameDevUE Před 3 lety +1

      @MJ ALL DAY templates usually come with a lot of scripts which all the asset flipper needs to do is create an environment or buy one

  • @dunes9606
    @dunes9606 Před 2 lety +40

    This Dev and i worked on this game until he decide to abandon it, check this channel and the latest video. Funny he doesn't mention it with his conversation with Bigfry. He has been deleting the videos he uploaded on our first game so it won't make him look bad, i changed passwords. No he did not work on Xio Survival for a year. He mostly worked on our game for a year and Xio survival for about 3 months

    • @tbrowniscool
      @tbrowniscool Před 2 lety +8

      That sucks hope your doing better than this guy.

  • @zetronman
    @zetronman Před 3 lety +124

    I'm gonna work on a game just to send to you, then I'm going to act as absolutely insane as possible. rev share split? :D

    • @grco1000
      @grco1000 Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah this is happening too often for me to think its legit

    • @OlEgSaS32
      @OlEgSaS32 Před 3 lety +11

      @@grco1000 ItS JuSt A pRaNk BrO!! send him a demo of nothing but a cube with the default skybox and when he asks what this is, reply with a 30 pg novel on how you are the best developer to have ever developered...ever

    • @notatrollll
      @notatrollll Před 3 lety +1

      @@grco1000 I dont, have you seen steam marketplace?

    • @thenegromancer4695
      @thenegromancer4695 Před 3 lety +3

      @@grco1000 Have you ever been on steam for 5 minutes? It’s too plausible

    • @mrr0r508
      @mrr0r508 Před 3 lety +4

      Fry is highly sus

  • @CallMeBlackout_
    @CallMeBlackout_ Před 3 lety +72

    I love when developers tell BigFry, “Im a big fan.” and then act surprised when he gives them an honest review.

  • @elra1894
    @elra1894 Před 3 lety +168

    I don't know how people get you into these situations BigFry, but I'm all here for it lmaoo

    • @mech0p
      @mech0p Před 2 lety

      some people just attract drama.

    • @mrgundyr6534
      @mrgundyr6534 Před 2 lety

      you sound like an npc

  • @maskedhobo
    @maskedhobo Před 3 lety +116

    OMG Zombie survival - Finally something new.

    • @SirDehumanized
      @SirDehumanized Před 3 lety +12

      The shitty thing is that no one can do it right.

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SirDehumanized except dying light and part 2 still hasnt realsed yet

    • @SirDehumanized
      @SirDehumanized Před 3 lety +4

      @@wilmagregg3131 That’s more like an action RPG I think though unless it’s like completely different from the first Dyinglight

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 Před 3 lety +3

      @@SirDehumanized ah well there i can see the point.
      if your asking for a pure zombie survival game i guess the only non shitte example i can think of is seven days to die.
      {would say dayz but its shown its shadyness over the years}

    • @SirDehumanized
      @SirDehumanized Před 3 lety +4

      @@wilmagregg3131 Yeah Seven days to die is decent but I wouldn’t say it’s a great game by any means. I just want something with good zombie AI and some flavor. Not a game where they throw you into an empty boring map with nothing to do besides search houses for gear for hours just to get sniped by some Dude that was hiding in a bush.

  • @BoneLonesome
    @BoneLonesome Před 3 lety +20

    Pro-tip: Don't slam other indie devs in an industry you want to work in. It comes back to you when you want it least.

    • @faithfuljohn9836
      @faithfuljohn9836 Před rokem +2

      Pro-tip number 2: Dont slam people. My motto is: as few enemies as possible.

  • @aurin_komak
    @aurin_komak Před 3 lety +52

    Why do all Unreal Engine indie games use the same exact font?!

    • @jessestewart5109
      @jessestewart5109 Před 3 lety +16

      I'm pretty sure that's the default Unreal Engine font for UI.

    • @aurin_komak
      @aurin_komak Před 3 lety +1

      @@jessestewart5109 yeah lol

    • @JessicaMarinaRushie
      @JessicaMarinaRushie Před 3 lety +17

      Because it's from Survival game kit, the font is called Roberto or something like that. The least they could do is change it... it's not hard to do at all.

    • @aurin_komak
      @aurin_komak Před 3 lety +6

      @@JessicaMarinaRushie yeah
      I've seen so many UE indie games that I can recognise one just by looking. Not just the font, but somehow the visuals tend to look very similar especially in FPS games. It's a blend of AAA looking and the dev not knowing what the fuck they're actually doing and the end result is always very uncanny

    • @JessicaMarinaRushie
      @JessicaMarinaRushie Před 3 lety +4

      @@aurin_komak Totally. It just gets me when someone uses assets and does not even change them to be their own! This person looks like they are taking credit for Defuses work too, all the things he shows in the video is because of the Survival Games Kit... Like everything! I could make this game in a day, maybe 2... I am not saying that people should not use assets because they should, it makes making a game much faster but they need to make it their own.

  • @mattholdsworth1763
    @mattholdsworth1763 Před 3 lety +31

    I feel sorry for the guy. I'd be confident wagering that the partner who messaged you was the same person, this time intoxicated by panic and remorse.

    • @nossnotna2841
      @nossnotna2841 Před 2 lety +4

      You're the one who tries to predict movies and is always wrong

    • @ikigai47
      @ikigai47 Před rokem +4

      @@nossnotna2841 Naw, I agree with him. Couldn't be more obvious

  • @josephpaulduffey873
    @josephpaulduffey873 Před 3 lety +64

    16 minutes in, I'm going to make the deciding assumption that this was pure Trolling. If it wasn't, it's clearly best to decide it was.

    • @NamesZKP
      @NamesZKP Před 3 lety +10

      Right at this point idk why any indie dev would say they're "Bigfry fans" when this man literally ends indie dev careers by criticizing them until they self destruct
      😂

    • @josephpaulduffey873
      @josephpaulduffey873 Před 3 lety

      @@NamesZKP Lul, It's just too much. I think, if this was trolling, he deserves a mastery level award though.

    • @ECcR0
      @ECcR0 Před 3 lety

      Ah, yes. People make mistakes and then act like everything was troll. Best no-shame strat..

    • @CJ-jl6hf
      @CJ-jl6hf Před 3 lety

      remember any publicity is good publicity, but when it comes to the gaming industry I'm not sure how true that statement can be LOL

    • @sanquineo
      @sanquineo Před 3 lety

      @MJ ALL DAY some people truly believe they are irreplacable, yet there are people without "qualification" doing the job with ease.

  • @Marksman560
    @Marksman560 Před 3 lety +97

    They should've promised some crypto/NFTs to get some free funding 🤣

  • @kyledakilla8724
    @kyledakilla8724 Před 3 lety +20

    Love how when you eat the chicken, the character just looks at it. Great attention to detail.

  • @tdg710
    @tdg710 Před 3 lety +44

    I also love how at 7:11 he's in a fucking blizzard and it's snowing but it says 22.9 degrees Celcius... This kid doesn't even know the difference between Celcius and Fahrenheit...

    • @StuartD21
      @StuartD21 Před 3 lety +12

      At one point its 40c and still frozen. Damn that is some hot snow

    • @tdg710
      @tdg710 Před 3 lety +6

      @@StuartD21 40c is PRETTY damn hot snow. Hell must've frozen over lmao.

    • @Naptosis
      @Naptosis Před 3 lety

      Maybe the game is set in the UK.

    • @Demonsouls1993
      @Demonsouls1993 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Naptosis UK Canada hell even China 40C is hot as fuck

    • @Newtjam
      @Newtjam Před 2 lety

      not to mention this takes place in Alaska, which is in the US, which uses the Imperial system... There shouldn't be Celsius in the game

  • @onlyontuesdays4483
    @onlyontuesdays4483 Před 3 lety +54

    "We're closer to 7 days to die" ahh yes the game that i picked up in early access in 2014 and is still in early to this day, at around Alpha 19 or something.

    • @timhorton8085
      @timhorton8085 Před 3 lety +8

      In fairness, 7 days has been in consistent albeit slow development. alpha 20 is coming in a few months, bug fixes to follow will be the last alpha build.

    • @SpaceMKP
      @SpaceMKP Před 3 lety +12

      it might be still in alpha but dam you gotta admit its fun with others

    • @DigiChaos1
      @DigiChaos1 Před 3 lety +4

      I dont usually comment, but you deserve a comment xD Have you recently played 7d2d? Seems not. Have you followed the dev streams? Seems not. Have you done anything but rant that its still in alpha? Seems not. Its true that the game is still in EA, but as mentioned, devs deliver. They have a roadmap, they take community suggestions and implement em. So please tell me.. Apart from being in slow development, can you say something else thats bad about the game state?
      Also if you compare it to anything else out there, what would it be? (like any game that can say its in the same state or better, with approx. same category) (ok, not english native xD not sure how to properly word it xD)
      IMO there are even AAA titles that a lot more can be said about them, but no one mentions them.

    • @shaneedwards596
      @shaneedwards596 Před 3 lety +3

      the difference is that this game isn't even comparable to Alpha 1.5 of 7dtd though lol

    • @LordAtlasxxx
      @LordAtlasxxx Před 3 lety +2

      @@DigiChaos1 honestly the only real complaint i can come up with is one thing. I feel trapped to playing it on pc because the console ports are so behind

  • @erikponti1753
    @erikponti1753 Před 3 lety +18

    Even tho this game looks boring and unfinished, I can somehow relate partly to the developers.
    Setting up an server side multiplayer and launching it on steam isnt super easy, so I get that they are somewhat proud of that accomplishment. But for the consumer thats not really important, what is important is the player experience and that is what you have to be most proud of in your game.

  • @MacCoy
    @MacCoy Před 3 lety +15

    i wonder how much money they spent on buying those assets or are those just demo/examples assets youre not supposed to use for your project but came included with all the features they bought.

  • @OfficialHybridSystem
    @OfficialHybridSystem Před 3 lety +14

    I don't care if marketplace assets being used in early stages, alpha, and some in beta. Hell I do it all the time to build things up and replace later. But this dude's just another "developer" whose Todd Howard in his mind and not in his experience.

    • @TartarSauceBeans
      @TartarSauceBeans Před 3 lety +4

      These days, Todd Howard’s work is mediocre, even with the insane amount of budget he gets.

    • @hordlood
      @hordlood Před 3 lety +2

      *looks at ui and zombie animations* it just works

    • @OfficialHybridSystem
      @OfficialHybridSystem Před 3 lety +1

      I meant more so that he thought he was some seasoned vet in the industry.

    • @CallForGrandPappy
      @CallForGrandPappy Před 3 měsíci

      Todd Howard was probably the dumbest example you could use, he’s talentless, Starfield is hopefully his last dumpster fire.

  • @Captain.AmericaV1
    @Captain.AmericaV1 Před 3 lety +8

    You seem to be a magnet for these *situations* !!🤣🤣

  • @WarpedSpaceDev
    @WarpedSpaceDev Před 3 lety +12

    Get your friends to play it until it's good. Don't shortcut to funding and keep your day job if possible.
    Be enthusiastic about your own game but also be real with yourself about at what point in development it is.

  • @vsGoliath96
    @vsGoliath96 Před 3 lety +5

    I think the problem with a zombie survival game in the Alaska wilderness is that there actually has to be people in the Alaska wilderness to turn into zombies. Shit dude, you could just remove the zombies, Alaska is plenty difficult to live in without them!
    Don't piss off the moose.

  • @Daydricoldsmith
    @Daydricoldsmith Před 3 lety +6

    If I'm to make a game, I'm gonna make sure I don't go the whole "early access route" I'd rather get a group of people and have private test then when I feel confident enough to take crucial criticism I'd send it out to a select set of CZcamsrs. What I seen here isn't something I would do.. and I'm not even a game dev.

    • @kevg1617
      @kevg1617 Před 3 lety +1

      You aren't, but you seem to know the difference between competence and effort and that only outcomes matter to anyone, not how much time was spent, but the quality of what was delivered. Most of these losers don't know this, they have been lied to all their lives by parents and teachers and believe the hype they've created for themselves and just can't take reality when it is finally thrown in their face by someone who couldn't care less about them or their feelings or their time.

    • @reasonnotfound
      @reasonnotfound Před 3 lety +1

      Seems like a good deal to use the early access option when trying to get feedback as long as it does not negatively affect your public image.

    • @cc-rg7dz
      @cc-rg7dz Před 3 lety +2

      You can do early access, it's a great way to get a feel product out to people to keep them engaged while you prioritize other developments they think is important. The problem is most developers don't understand early access isn't "pay for my demo and I'll fuck off into the sunset". I've seen this product on Twitch the other night and it's exactly like a clone of DayZ but with snow.
      They have the ability to make this better but they'd rather sink their boat before launching off the dock. All because they can't take some criticism. BigFry might be an ass sometimes, but people forget he gets this stuff all the time so he doesn't want to bother with it.

  • @MasouShizuka
    @MasouShizuka Před 2 lety +3

    I'm no game developer, but I aspire to make an RTS type of game in the vein of old school CnC years down the line when I actually get more experience. But even I know that a game demo should be an opportunity to show what my game is about. All the best features and mechanics.
    In terms of RTS, usually 3-4 missions showing different aspects of my RTS game. Not invisible walls and a campfire. If the demo cannot grab the interest of a player, then it is not a good demo.

  • @ThiagoBenazziMaia
    @ThiagoBenazziMaia Před 2 lety +4

    So many dev suffer from impostor syndrome, I saw this a lot in so many people. Had so many friend thats were kind of genius and stop programming because they couldn't handle the "suggestions" because they took personally. That's why at companies the dev are usually separated from the customer service and business by a person that can talk in a more comprehensive way to report the issues.

  • @Migo1290
    @Migo1290 Před 3 lety +6

    I cant believe that it's common in the gaming industry to have "Developers" like this. And rarely do we really get good indie game devs with actually good games with potential

    • @kevg1617
      @kevg1617 Před 3 lety +1

      they are incompetent. The market has become far easier of access and most of these people have no idea how to set up and implement goals, a plan, strategies and deadlines. They have conflated effort and competence, believing they are one and the same, believe effort deserves reward when in fact only outcomes are deserving of reward.

    • @hedged-valley1148
      @hedged-valley1148 Před 3 lety

      Bobux

    • @jamesvandoran8166
      @jamesvandoran8166 Před 7 měsíci

      Unreal Engine and it's ease of use is the blame. Along with the asset store. Basically, anyone with a few brain cells can make a game with some effort. It won't be good and will look generic, but you can still make it

  • @MEATOGRE
    @MEATOGRE Před 3 lety +7

    Even if the game is alright, watching a grown adult go on a drunken whine-fest and ripping on equally trash games as their own speaks volumes about the professionalism of the “dev team”

    • @kevg1617
      @kevg1617 Před 3 lety +1

      Incompetence. This guy's a dishwasher trying to open and operate a restaurant after never once speaking to a successful owner about how to go about achieving said success. He may have been a great dishwasher, but he has no idea how to create and implement goals, a plan, strategies and deadlines. Like so many nowadays due to the ease of access, he is way out of his depth, but doesn't know it, because he believed everyone who told him all his life that he could do anything he set his mind to.

  • @PsychoRavager
    @PsychoRavager Před 3 lety +5

    Honestly, I'm getting tired of all the indie devs that make survival games and tactical FPS games. Like, make something new... damn it! Always multiplayer-focused. It's almost as if they've never bothered to check the break-out indie devs that succeed because of an original concept done/executed correctly.

    • @stuglife5514
      @stuglife5514 Před 2 lety +2

      I mean, yes and no. The Forest for example, just another survival game if it wasn’t for the cannibals and the mystery around was going on. And as for tactical shooters, some of them are just trying to fill the gap in the market left by AAA that end up being successful with copy cats trying to ride their tailcoats

  • @wazzzapnin
    @wazzzapnin Před 3 lety +4

    Random Developer: Do more research...
    Big Fry: Challenge Accepted!

  • @actuallyprosy
    @actuallyprosy Před 2 lety +1

    Man I really love your honesty and transparency. These videos stop me from being productive... and I'm ok with that.

  • @racingdenmark5573
    @racingdenmark5573 Před rokem

    I like how it's raining in the middle of a snowy forest yet it's 40+ degrees

  • @eddiej.l.christian6754
    @eddiej.l.christian6754 Před 3 lety +3

    Actually I am not sure why a Dev would ever ask for advice from someone who has never made a game.

    • @kevg1617
      @kevg1617 Před 3 lety

      for the same reason the qualifications for being upper management have nothing to do with being a game dev and everything to do with knowing how to set and implement goals, a plan, strategies and deadlines. He may have no lack of skill in coding or programming, what he most certainly lacks are the skills necessary to understand what he is undertaking and how to achieve it, which have little to do the nitty gritty micro and everything to do with the oversight and macro

    • @eddiej.l.christian6754
      @eddiej.l.christian6754 Před 3 lety

      @@kevg1617 Well again this is not something you have any experience in. Your a guy that likes games. And that is fine. But until you have managed or built a game, Your advice isn't from any actual experience.

    • @tjmaxwell21
      @tjmaxwell21 Před 3 lety +2

      It's really cause Big Fry has a decent following of people who've seen his reviews and respect his opinions. He's also reviewing in terms of playability which everyone can relate to. Whether or not the game has potential to be enjoyable is what really matters anyway.

    • @kevg1617
      @kevg1617 Před 3 lety

      @@eddiej.l.christian6754 managing projects is not exclusive to developing games, it is very similar across the board, the fact that you believe game development is somehow out there in a world of its own demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about. I have managed projects, I know many people who have managed projects in various fields unrelated to my own, The basic concept of project management is the same across the board and has more to do with knowing how to set up and implement clear and attainable goals, making an actual plan of how the project will go from day one to completion and implementing it. Setting clear and attainable deadlines and sticking to them. This is basic knowledge anyone who has learnt how to manage projects would know, they do not, because they do not the competence for their undertaking, he could be the best coder and or programmer in the world, it still wouldn't help if most of what he does is flying by the seat of his pants.

  • @MrMightyZ
    @MrMightyZ Před 3 lety +6

    I dunno man, this guy might deserve some advice or help or even pity but is humiliation the right medicine? I feel like he could have been told all this in private. But you do you man.

    • @prod.bronze
      @prod.bronze Před 2 lety +2

      yeah, this video made me unfollow. C'mon man $6,500 is nothing to finish a game. And bigfry actually attacked him first saying 'your asking for money?!?!'

    • @MrMightyZ
      @MrMightyZ Před 2 lety +3

      @@prod.bronze The clue for me is that I used to be a greeter at nightclubs and 90% of all the toughest guys I know are mellow, relaxed and respectful and never "act" tough in public or big-note themselves but big fry does a heck of a lot of tough-talking and he has "big" in his name so... to me he's just a big mouth.
      These kinds of guys can still be dangerous at night clubs or cause trouble but once a trained greeter confronts them they'll fall to bits fast and are always the first to threaten to call the police. Just my experience.

    • @JustAdude291
      @JustAdude291 Před rokem +2

      @@MrMightyZ Totally agree, this comment should have more likes. A lot of the stuff the Fry dude says is just unnecessary. It's one thing giving honest, valuable, feedback (that people may not like to hear), it's another thing to just act like a dicc and berate people anonymously on the internet. Quite frankly, I think both the Fry guy and the dev handled it poorly, at least once the dev went on a drunk rant. What can you honestly expect for 6500 dollar budget and a one man team? I've been in game development as a personal hobby and it's not always so simple and easy. Like sieving through lines of code to find your dyslexic error.
      Not even arguing that the game looks good or bad but all the slander and shjt talk is just unnecessary. This guy said in another video that he's "just really passionate about this". Fair enough, but there's no excuse for being a bully online because you're passionate about playing games. There's a difference between constructive criticism that a fellow dev can provide to another (I don't know if this guy is a dev or just a consumer), and there's of course value a consumer can add to a dev team. I kind of fail to see the constructive criticism and instead just see venting and slander. I even feel kind of bad for the dev, big fan of the channel, wants to show his hard work and just gets insulted and literally told how much a POS it is. Kind of fcked up if you ask me. I Don't think I'll care to watch this channel anymore. I thought this was about indie game reviews, not public roasts of people? Glad I'm not the only one who sees this.

    • @MrMightyZ
      @MrMightyZ Před rokem +2

      @@JustAdude291 I’m afraid you’re spot-on. I don’t like to sling my opinion around but Big Fry has a very “young” ego or could be said to be very ego-driven and loves the sound of himself “talking tough.”

    • @JustAdude291
      @JustAdude291 Před rokem +2

      @@MrMightyZ I hear you, I don't either but maybe these are constructive criticisms Fry could read and try to apply. Based on what I've seen on this channel, I completely agree, same with the tough talk. The golden rule brother, treat people how you want to be treated. Can only hope people outgrow their anger.

  • @gingersnapz5817
    @gingersnapz5817 Před rokem +2

    The mask picture was all I needed to see lmao

  • @DCGMatthew1
    @DCGMatthew1 Před 3 lety +5

    This will be fun.
    Edit: Well, he at least didn't go super crazy.

  • @FEEAR1000
    @FEEAR1000 Před 3 lety +3

    I fucking LOVEEE when these so called "devs" asset flippers rage at you for pointing out the truth and their scummy actions. Keep it up BigFry

  • @s1acr457
    @s1acr457 Před 3 lety +6

    Awesome a bunch of kids that have probably never been here making a game about this state... original.

  • @callmejay360
    @callmejay360 Před 3 lety +4

    We in here!

  • @suhpc82
    @suhpc82 Před 3 lety +3

    Why do they always sound so entitled? Oh, never mind. He uses a picture of himself with a face mask as his profile picture. That explains everything.

  • @Tigs2
    @Tigs2 Před 3 lety +3

    To be honest I do not see anyone giving a drunken rant. If I were drunk I would swear like a trooper. The only other thing I would say is that if anyone took the time to send you something even if you are busy doing other vids, a simple reply saying "I got your stuff mate and will take a look in the next 10 days or so as I am slammed right now".. I see a guy developing a game who is struggling for funds to put meat on the table. All that said, the guy should be much more agreeable to your normally excellent constructive criticism. We all have our nights when we have one to many and to be honest I am unsure that you should be publishing private discussions and showing private messages. You are even reading his texts in a comedy voice. You are better than this BigFry. It is you that has just had a 20 min rant and with the number of subscribers you have could have effectively destroyed this guy before he gets started.Just sayin, if you want him to be professional then you set the standard and also be professional and stick to constructive criticism. You complain about this guy trying to raise money to develop his game but you also try to raise money. You sell your own merchandise and get commissions on games and ask people to support. Come on man.

  • @Carnyzzle
    @Carnyzzle Před 3 lety +5

    Ah yes another game that's of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
    Survival
    Open World
    Zombies
    Crafting

    • @darkmemes953
      @darkmemes953 Před 3 lety

      And advertises itself to the “revolutionary” in the market.
      ;) ;) Cyberpunk

  • @SethEric
    @SethEric Před 3 lety

    Honestly when I saw your videos for the first time, I thought you just had a bad attitude towards things and I wasn't a huge fan of it. After watching more though, I've come to realize that that's not the case at all, I actually have a lot of respect for what you're doing and I think its very much needed. I've really enjoyed going down the rabbit hole of your channel. Keep up the good work!

  • @AaronVictoria
    @AaronVictoria Před 3 lety

    I love that you and others have found out how to browse the directory to find out what was used hahaha; makes these videos even funnier.

  • @fverheus
    @fverheus Před 3 lety +8

    Another 'Build-it-Survival' in a apocalyptic zombie setting.
    It's drooling from originality! 😓

    • @gotworc
      @gotworc Před 3 lety

      @@ElektroBandit89 at times? that game still sucks and gets boring after awhile. literally all that happens is you either kill people or you get killed after roaming around for 30 minutes. none of these games actually have any depth

  • @redwingzftw50
    @redwingzftw50 Před 3 lety +12

    I feel bad for the female dev. As she had to step up and apologize for him! Like she should not be involved but she had the balls to step in and apologize. clearly we know who is the passionate one is for this project.

  • @bigblockheed
    @bigblockheed Před 3 lety +2

    "I've dedicated the last year of my life to develop this"
    When will these people realise a year is nothing in this industry.

  • @zeening
    @zeening Před 2 lety +1

    these people that think because they watched a content creator for awhile, they are OWED something, or KNOW the content creator it is absolutely wild

  • @BioXideTV
    @BioXideTV Před 3 lety +6

    this is the content i yearn for

  • @YUURRRRRofficial
    @YUURRRRRofficial Před 3 lety +5

    Good shit man lol, instant classic

  • @Jesterday74
    @Jesterday74 Před 3 lety +2

    I think he wrote totally respectfull messages to you, no reason to insult him.

  • @FC3SouthTown
    @FC3SouthTown Před 3 lety +6

    This dude givin off Stan vibes. Might wanna check in on his partner in a few days or so. Make sure they're alive.

    • @darkmemes953
      @darkmemes953 Před 3 lety +3

      Lmao, that is what I too. Fry legit giving these “devs” a reality check and depression.

    • @britneybowcutt1193
      @britneybowcutt1193 Před 3 lety +3

      Still kicking, thanks for your concern.

    • @darkmemes953
      @darkmemes953 Před 3 lety

      @@britneybowcutt1193 Wait are you the dev? Or are you trolling?

    • @britneybowcutt1193
      @britneybowcutt1193 Před 3 lety +3

      @@darkmemes953 I am the co-developer.

  • @jessestewart5109
    @jessestewart5109 Před 3 lety +6

    Good on you for taking the time to review indie devs games. It was unprofessional of the first dev, but the fact that the girl apologized on his behalf was good, imo.
    And it's great that you still covered the demo! I'll sub.

  • @chaser4995
    @chaser4995 Před 3 lety

    @BigfryTV
    Thank you for that closing. I was in tears when I heard, “game devs wondering what not to do, this game is a prime fuckin example.”
    Fuckin mic drop

  • @igor7600
    @igor7600 Před rokem

    I've just discovered your channel and I'm loving it

  • @beefyonyt
    @beefyonyt Před 3 lety +3

    Certified gamer moment

  • @dougfoster445
    @dougfoster445 Před 3 lety +3

    Honestly looks pretty good

  • @johnbevier8049
    @johnbevier8049 Před 2 lety +1

    Super glad I found this channel you do you Bigfry love the content

  • @xmanstudios2987
    @xmanstudios2987 Před 2 lety +2

    He sure got the review he wanted you to give him, lol.

    • @tman7042
      @tman7042 Před 2 lety

      The whole thing was probably for attention

    • @xmanstudios2987
      @xmanstudios2987 Před 2 lety

      @@tman7042 Yeah, also nice quiet riot pfp

    • @tman7042
      @tman7042 Před 2 lety

      @@xmanstudios2987 thank you

  • @UncleSamsDevil
    @UncleSamsDevil Před 3 lety +5

    These devs asked me to play a demo as well. Wasn't sure what to make of it... probably just not going to get into it. I don't have the energy

  • @einfachhonig6284
    @einfachhonig6284 Před 3 lety +3

    Im way to early so im just gonna wish you guys a wonderful day

  • @mike8449
    @mike8449 Před 3 lety

    This reminds of that one video you made reviewing Raw when that guy was running around the warehouse lol

  • @Acheron666
    @Acheron666 Před 3 lety +1

    I seen “rages” and “drunken rant,” then clicked on the video quick 😂.

  • @RobLeonard
    @RobLeonard Před 3 lety +4

    I thought his game looked good. Oh well.

    • @britneybowcutt1193
      @britneybowcutt1193 Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you I appreciate that.

    • @RobLeonard
      @RobLeonard Před 3 lety +4

      @@britneybowcutt1193 fry, in my opinion is being a little too hard on the game because he is mad. I loved the art and the building and the way the grass swayed in the wind. Don't lose hope. Keep it up. :)

    • @britneybowcutt1193
      @britneybowcutt1193 Před 3 lety +1

      @@RobLeonard MUCH APPRECIATED!

  • @bigdraco98
    @bigdraco98 Před 3 lety +3

    Still looks better than earth 2 and dreamworld

  • @imNilco
    @imNilco Před 3 lety +1

    holy shit the amount of motion blur there was in that clip of dead matter literally made me feel sick

  • @tjfast55
    @tjfast55 Před 3 lety

    The mocking voice does it for me 🤣🤣🤣

  • @vesavius
    @vesavius Před 2 lety +11

    I am gonna be charitable here, because it's ok to not mock and jeer all the time, and say that the dude just sounds pressured, burnt out, and strung up on something that he is emotionally invested in. Drink just makes that all worse. I don't think that any of this makes him a bad person and I think that his funding drive is not greedy and pretty reasonable.
    I am willing to cut him slack here and not join the hate train.

    • @jacobdavis8089
      @jacobdavis8089 Před 2 lety +2

      This comment is refreshing. Every other comment just regurgitates whatever Big Fry says. I enjoy Big Frys content, but sometimes I think he comes off as a bit of an asshole himself. This game while clearly early didn't look that bad and like you said $6500 is a reasonable amount to ask for.

    • @NickMC512
      @NickMC512 Před 2 lety

      Excuses, excuses, excuses. Whether or not he is a bad person is honestly irrelevant. First, second, and even third impressions matter, and he failed. Nobody gives a fuck how burned out you are, professionalism is everything. Imagine blowing up like this at a client, a supervisor, or a customer. As the saying goes, if you can’t handle the heat, stay the hell out of the kitchen. If you cant hack it in a cutthroat industry, stick to one that you can actually handle.

  • @Ostnizdasht206
    @Ostnizdasht206 Před 3 lety +4

    These indie devs need to keep their egos in check.

  • @TheSimonarne
    @TheSimonarne Před 3 lety +1

    that weather stuff might look really nice in a linear cinematic side scroller

  • @YourMoralCompas
    @YourMoralCompas Před 3 lety +1

    May I say that it says at the bottom right of the toolbar that it is *40c* degrees

  • @kangkillmonger7416
    @kangkillmonger7416 Před 3 lety +4

    The game doesn't look as bad as some . You were picking fight here.

  • @meisai6332
    @meisai6332 Před 3 lety +7

    I like how the demo gameplay had nothing to do with this "Xio", which is literally on the title of the game itself. Not that it'll ever get to that stage anyway.

  • @bangBoomPoof861
    @bangBoomPoof861 Před 2 lety

    Just found your channel bro! I fucking love your content! I'm only pissed because it took me this long to come across this gold mine of a channel. Keep up the good shit 🙏🏼

  • @xiosurvival
    @xiosurvival Před 3 lety +8

    Thank you for the ongoing support, we really appreciate it @bigfrytv

    • @xiosurvival
      @xiosurvival Před 3 lety

      ;)

    • @fitchyyboi
      @fitchyyboi Před 3 lety

      Lol. This isn't support guys. The game looks alright, but this video really kinda screws it all up.

    • @notinterested8452
      @notinterested8452 Před 3 lety

      Gl nice to see that you commented here.

    • @kevg1617
      @kevg1617 Před 3 lety +1

      it would have behooved you to learn to set and implement goals and go about achieving said goals before jumping head first into a project you are not qualified to complete

    • @rainey06au
      @rainey06au Před 3 lety

      Dude, you should have kept your job in excavation until you had a product that was significantly different from everything else out there. You've basically just added more corn to the chicken and corn soup that is zombie survival games. What you have is not fundamentally bad, but you need to show that you have something else to offer.

  • @iFeelGlee
    @iFeelGlee Před 3 lety +1

    "i quit my job for this" a greater level of sacrifice does not function like a contract with a devil and magically make you more skilled or insightful to game development. it just means you've lost more to get where you are, whether or not where you are is a good place to be.

  • @SlavicBog
    @SlavicBog Před 3 lety +4

    The game looks fine

  • @shamelescampr5594
    @shamelescampr5594 Před 2 lety

    I think the biggest lesson is don't attempt business ventures while intoxicated

  • @j03T3XAz
    @j03T3XAz Před 3 lety +2

    the "partner" just sounds like its probly the same guy lmao

  • @damianrobinson422
    @damianrobinson422 Před 2 lety

    I will ask. Do you have any recommendations for where to learn good coding for making games?

  • @goldenwolfe5085
    @goldenwolfe5085 Před 3 lety +1

    This is gonna be a ride

  • @2pacaveli1988
    @2pacaveli1988 Před 3 lety

    Hey @BigFryTV.
    I saw a tactical shooter (top down perspective) on steam. It's called "Thunder Tier One".
    On the steamstore page it says you can participate in a playtest. I don't know if you like that type of shooter, but I thought maybe you would take a look at it.

  • @issackall141
    @issackall141 Před 2 lety

    i actually heard the mic hit the ground at the end lol

  • @federalcheesegrater556
    @federalcheesegrater556 Před 3 lety +1

    The "Pick up" pop up is 1:1 from tarkov lol

  • @rune5416
    @rune5416 Před 3 lety

    Bro scrolled through your channel and though the 1013 video was a spotlight lmao

  • @stormolflak
    @stormolflak Před 2 lety

    2:00 Not gonna lie that pickup hud looks like Escape from Tarkov pickup hud

  • @TheRaccoonGamer
    @TheRaccoonGamer Před 2 lety

    Is that the Arma interaction bar texture? Lmao

  • @MrRoxBrown
    @MrRoxBrown Před 3 lety

    Love when big fry goes "okay" shit gets me rolling

  • @AlphaGamer1981
    @AlphaGamer1981 Před 3 lety +1

    Personally if I decided to quit my job, take on unreal engine courses from youtube and then go out to make my first game, I would be scared to death to come to you and ask to review it. I do a lot of 3d work and animations in 3ds max and poser and been doing it since 2007, when I look back at my first ever animation I cringe at how bad it looks, however at the time I thought it was such an amazing achievement that Pixar would be fools not to hire me

  • @EmissionGaming
    @EmissionGaming Před 15 dny

    Dude wanted a promotion… got a funeral instead

  • @ld6978
    @ld6978 Před 2 lety

    When he said lay off the whiskey
    😂

  • @pro_154
    @pro_154 Před 3 lety

    so much finessing happens in dc that im not suprised

  • @SKULLTHEWIZARD
    @SKULLTHEWIZARD Před 3 lety +1

    The best game publishers are the ones that don't ask for money until they have the finished product they can't be trusted.