Mathematically Proving which Pokémon Should Learn Fly
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For Golurk, I forget where this is shown, but he is able to retract his legs and then shoot energy from his waist like a rocket
Its in one of the BW movies.
Golurk and its prevo are a reference to astro boy, so yeah that checks out
In sun and moon anime
All Golurks in the anime, except maybe Goh's, was shown to fly.
@@theboostedbaboon4586 also in the bw tv show
You didn't take into account that real birds also don't only have to carry their own weight. Birds of prey frequently carry their kills through the air, which may weigh as much or more as the bird itself.
I mean, yeah, but also, their kills aren't typically dozens of times their size. To paraphrase Monty Python, it's a simple question of weight ratios. A 4-pound bird could not carry a 70-pound child.
@@RabblesTheBinx Well, it depends. Are we talking about Kantonian or Johtonian Pidgey?
This is fantastic. Great style and execution.
Thank you so much Kyle!!!!!
Did they use nukes in the great Pokémon war?
@@TJWard-ps5ifthat's why surge isn't in the army anymore. His incompetent awfulness as a trainer and that level of responsibility weren't a good mix. So the E4 gave him a gym to keep an eye on him. Cos he certainly doesn't earn that by skill
@@SombreroPharoah I think you are on to something. Maybe Kyle and adef can do a colab on it. If they want that is.
Did you not see his outfit? Certainly not great style.
"It's a magical space dragon. Grow up, it can fly" made me lose it. Very funny stuff here, and just the right mix of articulate and humorous. Keep it up!
im surprised you didn't mention doduo, who canonically based on its pokemon stadium animation for using fly, kicks violently until its in the air
Mystery solved; Doduo is a two-headed Yoshi!
Pump those legs Billy, PUMP THOSE LEGS FASTER! BILLY PLEASE
And dodrio ises it's two other heads as wings.
Be strong for mother
because Doduo or Dodrio basically runs fast af boyyyyyy
Hummingbirds are able to hover by moving their wings in a figure-8 so that they can generate thrust in different directions by flapping its wings harder in a specific section of the wingbeat. If they want to hover, they flap harder on the down strokes, forward is harder on the back strokes, etc. Hope this helps!
fascinating, thank you!!!!
Now I want a hummingbird Pokémon.
@@Chicken_strips73Cutiefly: Am I a joke to you?
Edit: Actually nvm cutiefly is based on bee flies or fairy flies, my bad
@@EggnogKL lmao
@@Chicken_strips73 Porygon-Z?
23:30 The reason Golurk can fly is very different from any other mon on this list. Sure in the games it makes no sense, but in the anime (and I think the manga) Golurk flies by doing some transformer thing and turning his legs into a rocket thruster. I wonder if there is a video explaining how much force would be needed to counter the weight in order for that rocket to work?
note: That video would have to use literal rocket science XD
Not any other Pokémon. There are multiple which use rocket propulsion.
@@RobinRhombus2yes but not many transform their parts for it
And then we have garchomp, who cannonicly can fly but cannot learn fly
Just so you know, there are known weights for most of the protagonists. For Generation 4 the information even comes from the Pokédex! You were able to compare the weight of a Pokémon to the player on a scale. According to Bulbapedia, Lucas weighs 83.3 pounds and Dawn weighs 75 pounds.
He took the average weight of a 12 year old because the weights varied too much with character age
Me: I really like that outfit. It's functional and exudes confidence.
adef: I want to acknowledge just how bad this outfit is, I'm sorry.
Me: oh.
It kinda got worse when he took the jacket off, but don't tell him that😅
Salmon pants and a weirdly dark denim jacket do not work together I'm sorry. Also the silhouette was so weird for some reason
Jacket was great, when he took off the jacket it was awful
I don't get it either. Man has an ICONIC butch lesbian fit and dares call it bad? smh
I'm surprised Wailord didn't make the list! Based on his weight/height ratio, he should be able to fly like a blimp!
Someone didn’t watch the game theory video
@@DaPujjBut hey that's just a theory, A GAME THEORY!
@@DaPujjDoes anyone still unironically watch matpat nowadays
Disclaimer because of 'events': His (channel's) content hasn't clicked with me for the past few years, but he still was a massive influence when I was younger. I do wish him a nice retirement :)
@@puckie643Me!!
@puckie643 yes, i love my madman fnaf man
I am in love with how it's basically only Ho-Oh that just represents a borderline basic bird (Yes, the phoenix is now just a bird) that can fly and the rest are mythological creatures of destruction for the most part.
Nice research and tally ups, really fun to watch, loved it!
As a Golurk Fan, it’s legs and arms can retract and shoot out energy, effectively giving it three jetpacks
I hope this is good enough for you
If you check the pokedex on Pokemon Platinum on the DS there's a scale where you can compare the character weight to pokemon. It says that in that game the character weights 83.8 lbs or 38kg. Your estimate was not that far off!
I was just heading down here to comment this. I didn't have the specific number though!
it's actually hilarious to me how close my estimate was LMAO
@@psychoDon525 Yeah was thinking the same and a bit funny how Lyra is canonically taller and heavier than gold/Ethan
@@KazShiro Her hat's just that big.
@@oakgreenoak They didnt count her hat thats the thing.
For the record, golurk flies by retracting its hands and legs and apparently has jet engines in its arms and torso that it uses to fly
Hes based on the Iron Giant, like Gyarados is based on kites and wailord is literally a blimp.
@@NazuikoI thought it was Astro boy that was the base idea. Looks wise, neither the Iron Giant nor Astro boy are close.
@@JaharNarishmaI just think it’s a mix of both the traditional Hebrew Golem and a modern gundum style robot rather than being based on a specific character
@@Nazuiko
Gyarados is based on Asian dragons, not kites
@@Richard_Nickerson yeah it's evolution is based on a story of a karp swimming up a waterfall and turning into a dragon. It's also a water type, which references how asian dragons live in lakes
The cool thing about why Golurk is able to fly is that that it's legs can retreat into it's body and it can turn itself into a literal rocket. Which is still pretty terrifying, but it at least makes slightly more sense as to why it's able to fly.
Dragapult is based on a stealth bomber and it's head is a jet, meaning it technically has wings, making it able to fly.
Oh yeah btw shoutout to Garchomp who is LITERALLY a jet plane. Let me give you a summary of some of it's pokedex entries:
It can fly at sonic speeds (the speed of sound) equal to jet planes. It does this using those flaps on it's arms that are apparently wings, and also it's scales are designed to reduce drag. It is so good at flying that it can outmaneuver, catch, and eat entire flocks of bird pokemon in the air, and it can hold it's own in midair battles with SALAMENCE (y'know, the pokemon that wanted to fly so badly it literally willed it's wings into existence).
Not really relevant to the flying thing but the dex also mentions that it can run so fast that it's wings generate winds forceful enough to cut down trees, and that it can move just as fast underground as it can above. Oh yeah, and those little things on each side of it's head operate as sensors/a radar, meaning that it can see it's prey from far away, no matter if they are in the air, on the ground, or inside the earth.
This thing is a beast. Pray that you never piss off a Garchomp.
That explains his weaknesses. Only thing that can defeat him are: beasts of equal power(weakness to dragon), intensive cold so basically nature itself(weakness to ice) and idk for fairy, friendship power? maybe?
In my head canon, Pokemon with Fly work like Appa from ATLA in that they are able to manipulate air currents to give themselves more lift than their weight or wingspan should allow. In my head, that explains how Pokémon who are too small or don’t have wings or other visible means of propulsion manage to hold people.
I mean it's kind of explained, that its a move they learn at a certain level but in the game you can teach it to any of them, so it's basically them using the move, which makes it so they can carry anyone.
Yeah, i would love to see the flying type recontextualized in future games as more of a wind type to address this concern honestly
I want to see someone riding a pidgey across the sky like it's a winged skateboard before I will tacitly approve this head cannon.
Agreed. There's no way Pidgey can legitimately create a flippin' hurricane by simply flapping it's wings hard enough. That tiny bird must have magical airbending powers to justify being able to learn that move. So it makes sense to assume that it uses airbending to carry a person when using the move Fly.
So flying Pokémon are Airbenders; got it
Golurk, much like Celesteela, is a rocket, that's why it can fly. Fun video btw
As somone whos is going to be a physics major next year and loves both physics and videogames, I love ur vids. its so awesome to see people in our community wanting to reach out and educate, knowing people like you are out there is what makes me wanna be a physicist. Keep it up man you'll be big one day.
Bernoulli’s principle, while an acting force upon an aerofoil, is not a primary source of lift.
The misconception is VERY common, to the point where, while attending a lesson at my local airport, it was told to me by an acting pilot.
Bernoulli’s principle being applied to an aerofoil is more applicable in the Ground Effect exploited by high-performance vehicles to keep them from learning HM2 on public roads.
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Love the video! Just a small issue is that typically the larger a bird, the larger it’s wing span is in proportion to its height. For example a bald eagle is on average about 0.8 meters tall, but has a wingspan of about 2 - 2.4 meters. While a ruby throated hummingbird is 3- 3.75 inches tall, while it has a wingspan of about 4 - 4.75 inches. This means a more accurate method to go about this calculation would have been to also graph how wingspan tracked with height in real birds, and then give Pokémon a wingspan based on a point on that graph. The biggest reason for the is because as the surface area of an object or just an animal in general increases, their volume and therefore mass will increase at a much faster rate, and therefore larger birds must compensate by having comparatively larger wingspans.
But what are you going to use the wingspan for? I think the way he did it is correct because the height stands in for the wingspan as you said and by correlating it to the weight you can see if the pokemon is too heavy
@@johannesschutz780 in the video, adef gave an arbitrary wingspan to every pokemon that might be able to fly, so i'm suggesting instead you find the wingspan of a pokemon based on that pokemon's height, and then use the wingspan vs weight to determine if a pokemon can fly.
I am fairly certain this more accurate calculation would only disqualify even more pokémon from flight, so nah.
The issue here isn't with the calculation, it's with trusting ANYTHING the pokémon company/gamefreak says about anything. Everything in the dex is an asspull, and thus none of the pokémon weight/height data can be used.
Simply: Nerd
@@fra7210 I'll take that as a compliment
This video feels like a spiritual successor to BDG's Unraveled series and I'm all here for it.
Oh man, it absolutely does!
This yes!
Totally.
I thought the same thing!
While Unraveled was more like literature class with some optional classes like calculating Mario's retirement age, this is the science class in the same school.
Can't wait for a lecture ranking every enemy in Mario games by the force Mario would have to achieve to crush them or something
"According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a pidgey should be able to learn fly. Its wings are too small to lift a 10 year old's body off the ground, the pidgey of course, learns fly anyways, because pidgeys don't care what humans think is possible"
Its funny how you brought up Golurk (who can fly using rockets as shown in the anime), but didn't mention ANYTHING about Doduo... the Pokemon that can learn fly and is flying type despite being based on the Dodo bird, a bird notorious for being flightless.
I am pretty sure it’s an ostrich
@@christopherfleetwood5252 Its name is LITERALLY "Doduo" a pun on dodo and duo, and its JAPANESE name is just "Dodo"... It resembles an ostrich but its definitely based on the dodo.
@@lasercraft32 Idk the doodoo is extinct tho, could be an Emo
@@christopherfleetwood5252 🤦
Just because the dodo is extinct doesn't mean the _fictional Pokemon_ can't be based on it... Bulbasaur is based on dinosaurs, yet its not even an ancient Pokemon.
@@lasercraft32 I thought it was a Plant-Toad/Frog thing…
I guess according to adef's laws of aviation, there is no way that a beedrill should be able to fly
Glad to see my favorite Pokémon golurk, even in the circumstances of me being told it can’t fly. Fun fact: Not only can its legs and hands fold in and become thrusters, the torso also doubles as a cannon it can fire energy blasts out of!
Yeah golurk's awesome
I think it is worth keeping in mind that Corviknight is established by loor being able to transport people. I wonder how this would look if you had that pokemon as the base line.
Seeing Golurk having a whole section dedicated to it felt emotionally validating for some reason
0:57 FUNNY YOU SAY THAT-
All of Charizard's idle animations, poses, or sprites, all the way up to and including (I think) Generation 7, display him defaulting as hovering. In SV, he simply stands, and gets up using his wings when attacking with special moves.
I feel so bad for Adef trying to find all this bird information for a CZcams video and I’m here thinking, “My bird nerd father-in-law probably knows all this information!”
I want more of this, I adore this sort of insane rambling and it’s educational too!
I just want to point out that every SINGLE joke and bit is absolutely golden. all the rules are followed, the facial expressions are excellent, and it's amazing juxtaposed with all the science. Thank you kind sa
Aviation industry person here. Bernoulli's principle is beaten into our heads and it was very refreshing to hear a CZcamsr describe it accurately for a change (and also validating to hear a normal person use it for once). Can't speak to the bird stuff, but your aircraft explanations are correct!
While his bit on Bernoulli's principle itself was fine, his application of it to an aircraft's wing was misleading at best and certainly isn't "correct." The airfoil shape of a wing to utilize BP is NOT the reason planes fly. That can't be stressed enough. They can fly with perfectly flat wings. They can even fly upside-down while working directly against adef's explanation! What the airfoil shape of a wing does is make flight more efficient.
It's simply the angle of attack of a wing pushing air down that generates the vast majority of lift. If you stick your flat hand out the window of a moving car what happens? If angled up, the air will push your hand up. (This also results in higher pressure under your hand/wing, but it's certainly not due to an airfoil shape creating the effects BP.) Planes work the same way.
Now this isn't just a problem with adef; BP and the airfoil is widely and wildly misattributed as the reason planes fly. It is disappointing to see this perpetuated in an otherwise great video, though, as it needlessly complicates and confuses an extremely fun topic. A more correct version of this video would've either skipped BP altogether or regulated it to a footnote.
@@bryceha7640 If speed and wing shape were what gave planes the ability to break terrestrial shackles, then multiple decades of aerospace engineering has been lies. The first planes had completely flat wings and were not very fast.
In fact, planes dont need to be moving horizontally at all to generate sufficient lift. But surely that air movement has to come from somewhere right? ...it does, the giant fans turning at 6000 rpm. Thats why theyre called propellers.
@Nazuiko Yup! The commonly given misinformation falls apart when you think about in it real life examples. Though for your last point, I’d clarify the aircraft’s propulsion does move it horizontally to create lift via angle of attack of the wings.
I love the humor I love the "stupid" amount of Science and work put into an absolutely silly and at the same time massively important topic. I love the presentation and selfhumor. perfect work.
Always a fun experience to find a new channel that you're gonna subscribe to after a single video. Love this work man and the humor is top notch
Your math videos are so silly while still being informative and entertaining. You make fantastic videos and i always share these with my friends
Absolute God Tier content, there wasn't a moment in the video I wasn't either laughing, learning something new, or both. Keep up the awesome stuff Adef :)
The adef number calculator reminds me of Jon Bois's Punt Score Index in his video "The Search for the Saddest Punt in the World". If you haven't already seen it, I recommend it as it mirrors the bringing numbers/math to an unusual place vibe of this video. Lovely stuff adef!
Oh you're so right, I've seen people compare this now to Bois and to BDG. Man i love these so much.
That skit around 2:00 The clothes are very similar to what I see 18-30 years olds wear in on the regular. It isn't the most common style, but there are a lot of them strolling around campus.
I really appreciate how much time and effort you clearly have put into making this educational Pokémon video. I especially enjoyed watching you apply physics and math to not only enlighten us but also entertain. Thanks a lot. I liked and followed.
Won’t using average on the height weight graph break things because it will cause in theory around half of real birds to also be discluded from the can it fly index?
Edit: you addressed this point a tiny bit near the end, but would using minimum height weight somehow be better?
agreed
These videos are real treasures, and I'm always excited when I see a new one pop up. Great work, Adef!
This video was a hoot from start to finish, I can never get enough of applying math to pokemon where it doesn't belong. I think a sequel to this video focusing on just... talking about the physics of all the "powered flight" pokemon - like Magneton with magnetism, the Latis being jets, Genesect with its jetpack, etc - would be super cool!
Loved this video. Comedy/timing with informative content at the beginning made me not just have this as background noise. Engaging, cant wait to see whats next
Lol the jacket looks better than the t-shirt, fight me.
Just how much of an insane amount of research and time have you put into this video? I mean, it's really educational and funny, but I can't even begin to imagine how much work went into this. I love your work Adef!
19:50 “I dunno, it’s a magical space dragon, grow up, it can fly”
"According to the Earth's Pokedex, uh- which is... scientists" This had me rolling XD
What a gem of a channel! Keep up the fantastic content
I’m three minutes in and I swear if he was my math teacher I might actually pay attention. Great video as always!
I wish I could like this video 100x. I love your sense of humor - I appreciate you nerding out on stuff like this :D
so happy to see a new video from you! these are super fun and entertaining!
Thank you for giving the jacket countdown, I was distressed if it was big or if you were small
Great video. Your comedic timing is on point, and I always enjoy sciency videos 😅
Excellent video! big fan of science/math being applied to video games + your editing and humor
This was an incredible video! Thouroughly entertaining and informative. Very well produced and executed! I'm excited to see how far this channel gets. I have no doubt it will reach 1 million subs within a year or two max
This is EXACTLY the combination of useless and thorough that I love. Well done!
I would go to school if this was the teacher
i would go to ben if this was the school
Loved the video, won my subscription easily.
Also, i love that birds are the go to analogy to flight anywhere, but bugs do this for a way longer time
Honestly, very solid video. Would gladly watch more videos like this!
thank you for putting more hours into this madness than the developers ever did coming up with the weights and heights of each pokemon
I'd like to see the same graph you did for the real birds, but plotted with the Fly learning Pokemon, to see how wonky it looks.
I really enjoyed this, thank you for making it.
i love this so much, great job! reminds me of the kind of conversations my friends and i would have in college at 2am lol
I think garchomp should also be under x-factor fliers because it is shown flying in scarlet and violet
It also flies in the XYZ anime, when they fight with Perfect Zygarde, you can see both Steven's Metagross and (I don't remember)'s Garchomp flying to keep up with it
You should have talk about how good is Drifblim as a flyer, i think it will pass, especially with how it treats people in its dex entries.
Top notch humor and interesting content! Subbed!
Love this, the effort that went in is super apparent
So basically what I'm hearing is that only endgame legendaries should be fly HM slaves, and the player should be walking around the entire region until they complete the game?
Sounds good to me!
Man this is peak comedy. I'm sitting here just replaying all the jokes 10 times instead of sleeping because they're so funny
Really underrated channel!
I loved the explanations. :)
Really good and educational video!! Congratulations
This is such a great format, incredibly entertaining
For this video alone, you should have way more subscribers. Great production value, delivery, etc. Keep it up!
i like what your doing here on your channe. You desearve way more views on this video (despite only being 2 days old).
I applaud you for all the time and work you put into this video and others. Keep it up! Thanks
Absolutely brilliant. I need more of these. I beg.
Holy freaking digletts.. there was so much information and formulaic knowledge packed in this video.. i should be able to put the completion of this video on a freaking job application.. and dude's comedic relief is absolutely on point.. the only tidbit i feel like i can add is this.. viscosity is the measurement of internal friction of a fluid.. thats why the bird swimming and fish flying thing makes since..
This is a ridiculously good video. I’m amazed
I swear, if I had been taught math and physics by you back in high school, I might have SOME basic knowledge now. You're awesome, keep up the good work. You sir have gained a new subscriber ;)
You’re gonna have 100k subs by the summer, keep it up man! Love the videos
thank you!!
Awesome video! I hope your channel grows
First time seeing your content but this was a fun video. When you came on screen and put the coat timer on I knew I clicked on the right vid because my first thought was "Interesting jacket ya got there"
It's very pleasing that the exponent in your curve of best-fit is so close to 1/3. This graph is basically just saying "height is proportional to the cube-root of mass"... which is exactly what you'd expect!
I like how you spent so much effort on calculations, then at the end added an arbitrary scale factor based on vibes
such a high quality vid man!! keep it up :D really enjoyed + new sub
I feel like M Salamance's wingspan is ludicrously larger than the rated 5'11" visually, which definitely would make it happen.
To be fair...
The move "fly" is about a) being able to carry someome aside of themselves, and b) put enoug energy behind moving in the air, to cause damage.
Flying in itsself is indipendant from the move "fly"
I absolutely love this video and the fact that it gave me the validation to confidently say that gliscor can fly makes it even better. Thank you so much!
This was so entertaining. Looking forward to more 😂
this was super entertaining and funny to watch
I’m taking a break from studying for my multivariable calculus final, thought it would be fun to watch, but then you started talking about vectors
It's almost like the rules are different when the animal can magically manipulate the elements :P
And as I finish the video, this vieo is so so so well done! I love everything about this video
I feel like we have a "bumblebees can't fly according to science" misconception, while yes there is the magical flying Pokemon I'm pretty sure we are failing to fully account the wingspan versus the size of the body of the Pokemon, you do mention that the wings are working in different ways on multiple birds like the hummingbird compared to the condor, are we accounting the surface area of the wings versus just the wing span, as for example with planes a delta wing aircraft has a significantly bigger surface area compared to a conventional wing, I love the science! well done! but I'm afraid the extremely limited data points give a very limited result this doesn't also take into account where the mass of the child is added, is the Pokemon carrying the child as a backpack or holding onto the child by the method of for instance with a claw. I'm looking forward to seeing you return to this topic in the future as this result is at best a pilot study
This is the video ive been waiting for my whole life
I know it may be obvious to some, but what about the square cube law? The smaller a body, and the lighter it gets, it will use significantly less energy to get to a flying state. That also means, that with the given energy, you could calculate the wing span, where applicable, to see if they do align.
For some Cases, where the Pokemon in question has a very low density, you could look into air balloons and the Thermo-/Fluid- dynamics that are involved. I'm pretty sure that Wailords make for great blimps.( very low mass compared to its size, it's a miracle, that they can dive to begin with)
Oh and Dragapult's head is shaped like a stealth bomber, so it is a case of aerodynamic design.
Golurk and Celesteela use a form of rocket propulsion for flight by the way.
Yo your really funny I can’t wait to see you do great things. Keep it up bro!
5:15 you look so happy saying that. I love it 😂
This is incredible! I love it
I liked your outfit!! It slayed hard! I did think the shorts were a skirt for half the video, but that just added to the energy