Voigtländer's Answer to the Contax and Leica M3

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  • čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
  • IG: @expiredbren
    www.brendanflesher.com
    This video is a review of the mostly forgotten Voigtländer Prominent camera. First conceived in the early 1950s as a direct competitor to the Contax and various Leica models, the Prominent boasted a small but quality line of lenses and robust design.
    It ultimately fell flat against more advanced cameras like the Leica M3 and Nikon S3, but nonetheless the Prominent deserves recognition for what it is, Voigländer's premier 35mm interchangeable lens rangefinder.
    To demonstrate this camera's function and capabilities, I loaded it up with some Fujicolor C200 and brought it out for a short snowshoeing jaunt in Lassen National Park. I elected to use two fantastic lenses with the Prominent while hiking around: the 35mm f/3.5 Skoparon and the 50mm f/2 Ultron.
    CHAPTERS
    - Intro: 00:00
    - Field Test: 3:51
    - Conclusion: 8:31

Komentáře • 27

  • @LeChatNoirM
    @LeChatNoirM Před 5 měsíci +4

    When my mother was a film student she had two cameras: a cheap Ricoh SLR and a Voigtländer Prominent with a 35mm Skoparon.
    The Prominent was purchased by my grandfather on a trip to Belize around the 1960s/1970s and for a while was thought to be lost. Last year, when my grandmother passed away, we were looking for some legal documents in her apartment and, I kid you not, I felt like Ali Baba when he encounters the cave full of treasures as soon as I saw the Voigtländer tucked away inside a dusty old drawer.
    It’s in good need of a CLA (especially because of the slow speeds) but I’m hoping to get it up and running to finally use it myself!

    • @ExpiredBren
      @ExpiredBren  Před 5 měsíci

      That's an awesome story to hear. Thanks for sharing! I would be curious to find out who still works on the Prominents

  • @happyblad
    @happyblad Před 5 měsíci +3

    Wow these photos are stunning!! Such a beautiful classic looking camera. Great video :)

    • @ExpiredBren
      @ExpiredBren  Před 5 měsíci

      Thank you for the comment! I'm stoked that you liked the video

  • @donaldlampert331
    @donaldlampert331 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I have a Prominent that I have never used…… but going to get it out right now! Nice pix, and review! Thanks

  • @mikemcnelly2780
    @mikemcnelly2780 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Images from this camera (photographer!) are really impressive, especially considering the age. Nicely done video… thanks!

  • @terryroth2855
    @terryroth2855 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great to see the Prominent in use. I recently picked up a Vito II and have been enjoying the process of getting to know it.

  • @randallstewart1224
    @randallstewart1224 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Voigtlander cameras from the 1950s were cleverly designed and exceptionally well-built. Voigtlander started in the 1800s as an optical instrument company, so the lenses are all excellent - fully usable today. The Prominent versions were not really competitive to the Leica or Contax, the major difference being that the lack of a focal plane shutter. While the speed difference is and was trivial, the leaf shutters imposed limits on the diameter of lens and camera mount which could be used. This in turn limited the range of lens focal lengths and size of lens apertures which could be fitted to the Prominent to 28mm to 135mm (not sure if it had a 28mm). This limitation killed all the high-end leaf shutter RF and SLR cameras by around 1970. A closer competitor for comparison to the Prominent would be the Kodak Retina IIIS, which was also the end of a long series of Kodak leaf shutter, interchangeable lens RF cameras, and equally unknown today. Kodak blessed the IIIS with lenses from 28mm to 200mm (200mm not RF coupled). [That 50mm 1.5 Nokton - the real one from the late 50s and 60s, not the modern lenses so labeled by Cosina today - was considered in its own optical class. Some were also sold in the Leica thread mount. A friend owned one on his old Leica. He was routinely offered up to $1,000 for the lens back in the 1980s. Never sold it. That said, a half century of technical advancements in lens design, new glass and new coatings means that its historical virtues probably go not stand up to many modern RF 50mm lenses.]

    • @ExpiredBren
      @ExpiredBren  Před 5 měsíci

      Thank you for the thorough insight, Randall! The original M Mount Nokton would be an absolute dream to try.

  • @andrewinaustintx
    @andrewinaustintx Před 5 měsíci +1

    Definitely a nice set of photos from this classic old timer. With Voigtlander, the attraction was always lens quality. The ergonomic quirks were a bonus, as was the beautiful outer finish work.
    Voigtländer prior to 1950, mainly produced medium format folding cameras with fixed single focal length lenses and leaf shutters. The Prominent was a major departure for the company and my guess the camera with interchangeable lenses was target against the original screw mount Leica Barnacks As you mentioned, Leica was getting ready to release the Leica M3.
    I loved seeing the Kontur in use. Do you have the Turnit viewfinder as well?

    • @ExpiredBren
      @ExpiredBren  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing further background on Voigtlander and the Prominent! Right after shooting with the Kontur finder I actually ended up finding a good deal on a Turnit viewfinder. Going forward I will probably stick with the Turnit, although the Kontor framelines were quite nice in retrospect.

  • @user-ny6kl5wl9k
    @user-ny6kl5wl9k Před 5 měsíci +1

    Would you ever try some of the russian rangefinders like kiev 4 or zorki 4? Loved the video. I've been following you for a while on ig and always wondered what leica you shoot, only to find your channel recently and realise you shoot cameras you enjoy and get amazing results whatever you use. Videos like this, Rolleiflex and Bessa 1 really helped me to get rid of the gear syndrome and just enjoy the experience. Big respect.

    • @ExpiredBren
      @ExpiredBren  Před 5 měsíci

      The Kiev 4 would be a great camera to review! I actually have one of those as well. I bought it will visiting Moscow four years ago and took quite a few photos with it while I was there.

    • @buki1375
      @buki1375 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ExpiredBrenKiev video confirmed!

  • @huneprut
    @huneprut Před 5 měsíci

    Maybe the colors are a bit off because of the lens? It's very old and probably expected to be used with black and white film, so it might not be coated to correct for color film. I don't know.

    • @ExpiredBren
      @ExpiredBren  Před 5 měsíci +1

      It should be coated for color film, but I plan on testing the camera with other film stocks to get a more definite answer as to why the trees came out rather yellow

  • @Matzgier
    @Matzgier Před 3 měsíci

    You have to try a Voigtlander Vitomatic II, tiny but heavy like a brick

    • @ExpiredBren
      @ExpiredBren  Před 3 měsíci

      My first ever camera was actually a very similar model! Little did I know it was only half functional at the time😅

  • @michaelcase8574
    @michaelcase8574 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The prom was a great camera.
    Zeis contax is German and not Japanese, just a slip of the ongue

  • @ozbaz99
    @ozbaz99 Před 5 měsíci

    The prominent II is wonderful camera but too little too late. I believe The prominent system had nothing wider then 35mm.

    • @ExpiredBren
      @ExpiredBren  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I have seen information about a 28mm focal length lens, but it is so scant that it just as well could have never existed.

  • @Docmakesfotos
    @Docmakesfotos Před 5 měsíci

    Voigtlander needs to make a digital leica alternative

  • @umamifuzzybastard2459
    @umamifuzzybastard2459 Před 5 měsíci +1

    First!

  • @Dahrenhorst
    @Dahrenhorst Před 5 měsíci

    It's not Voygtländer, it's Voogtländer.