The Dark Side of Sunflowers: Toxic Effects on Your Vegetable Garden!

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  • čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
  • Welcome back to "In The Garden With Patrick"! 🌻🌿 In today's episode, we're uncovering a surprising truth about sunflowers: while they are beautiful and beneficial in many ways, they can actually be toxic to some of your vegetable plants. Learn how sunflowers can affect your garden and what you can do to protect your veggies.
    Sunflowers release allelopathic chemicals that can inhibit the growth of certain vegetables. We'll discuss which plants are most vulnerable and share tips on how to manage sunflower placement in your garden to avoid any negative impacts.
    In This Video, You'll Learn:
    The allelopathic properties of sunflowers.
    Which vegetables are most affected by sunflower toxins.
    Strategies to mitigate the negative effects on your garden.
    The benefits of sunflowers and how to integrate them safely into your garden plan.
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Komentáře • 90

  • @Bubbaluv8
    @Bubbaluv8 Před 2 měsíci +51

    My tomatoes and morning glories are planted in the same containers as the sunflowers and they do awesome. The sunflower stems give nice structure. There's not a dark side to sunflowers, it's just learning from our grammies and grandpappies about what we can plant together. It's crazy that all of this stuff was known generations ago, but my country (U.S.A.) treats "old people" like they're useless. I learned from my parents and grandparents about what grows well together and what doesn't. I've also done volunteer visits at nursing homes for 4 decades. Gardening is one of my favorite subjects - I learn so much from other people's grandparents who've been brushed to the side by their kids and grandkids. I do appreciate you sharing this and your personal experience with the garlic on CZcams, but to the young people of the U.S. or anywhere holding tightly their ageism prejudice - Go to a nursing home and learn about gardening. And how to value the humans in our communities with decades of experience.

    • @Soilfoodwebwarrior
      @Soilfoodwebwarrior Před 2 měsíci +4

      My parents are useless to ask gardening questions to, so maybe I will look for some other old people to ask. Or I will just go with the plethora of market gardeners who have you tube channels and have done these experiments for me already.

    • @Bubbaluv8
      @Bubbaluv8 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Soilfoodwebwarrior Ah yes - You should always value media over actual human interaction. And over actual human beings that seriously need it. Orrr...not. *I benefit from both* - I've utilized CZcams since 2009, and I've visited nursing homes and assisted living since the '80s. That's why I know how sad it is that our society throws all this wisdom out. It's crazy the gardening, building, nutrition, and great life "hacks" that I see as "new ideas!!!" or "science now says!!!" on YT that I was listening to as a teen doing volunteer visits 30 years ago. Believe me, I'm fully aware the majority of people here will disregard, dismiss and brush off the recommendation to visit old, lonely thrown out people who have far more experience and value than they're credited for - as you have. This is not a good thing. Replacing the elders of our community, who may be our own friends and family, with media is a loss to society, not a gain. PS: The elderly humans I refer to have "done these experiments already" - that's where their knowledge and experience comes from.

    • @Bubbaluv8
      @Bubbaluv8 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Soilfoodwebwarrior Ah yes, you should always value media over actual human interaction. Over humans who actually need the compassion. Orrr....not. *I benefit from both*. I've utilized CZcams since 2009, I've visited nursing homes and assisted living facilities since I was a teen in the '80s. That's how I know MOST of the "new ideas!!!" and "new scientific discoveries!!!" in gardening, farming, nutrition, and amazing life "hacks" on CZcams are recycled from wisdom I listened to 30 years ago holding someone else's grammas hand and listening. Believe me, I'm fully aware most people will dismiss, disregard, and brush off my recommendation to visit the older ones of your community and listen to their wisdom - as you have done - but this is not a good thing. Replacing the elder humans in our communities with media is a serious loss - along with stupid, as how do any of us want to be treated as we age? I value my carefully chosen CZcams channels, but there's a whole lot of garbage and clickbait on CZcams I have to pick through to find the good. I value every minute of the time I spend with my old, wise friends, and there's no garbage. Newsflash: The elderly I speak of have "done these experiments already" - that's how they gained their experience.

  • @hvp6218
    @hvp6218 Před 2 měsíci +24

    Fun fact, sunflowers have been planted around Chernobyl to help remove cesium and strontium from the soil and ponds surrounding the site. Same with the Fukushima meltdown a few years back.

    • @terrapinflyer273
      @terrapinflyer273 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Huh! So there's some sort of 'real life lore' behind the functionality of sunflowers in Terraria... That's amazing!

    • @user-ef2xl3kk8n
      @user-ef2xl3kk8n Před měsícem

      I heard that! It takes out the toxins from the soil. Very interesting.

  • @Mark_Nadams
    @Mark_Nadams Před 2 měsíci +18

    We found the same problem with our pole beans and sunflowers. Now we plant the sunflowers in a bucket next to the beans and they all get along.

  • @montaramike
    @montaramike Před 2 měsíci +8

    I have always had sunflowers mixed in with my vegetables and have had no issues.

  • @user-zb1yy2xm9v
    @user-zb1yy2xm9v Před 2 měsíci +2

    💚 around where I am living there are sunflowers growing along fence lines, around monoculture maize crops being grown for ensilage for cattle feed 💚 I love the cheerful faces of the sun flowers 🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻 the cows do well on a mix of herbage so it's a win-win 💚 I didn't mean to suggest you were a sunflower hater 🕊️🌿

  • @jeffdeupree7232
    @jeffdeupree7232 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I planted sunflowers a couple of times, I just love them and the insects they attract. But now they’ve become an annual weed in my yard. Be sure you pull them out before they go to seed.

  • @hmmm..2733
    @hmmm..2733 Před 2 měsíci +8

    I’m growing sunflowers right next to my first year raspberries. I haven’t noticed any issues so far. They are about 5 feet tall and shading the raspberries a bit. But I have fruit and lots of new growth. I love using the dried sunflower stalks for their poles. Very light weight and strong.

  • @skubajen
    @skubajen Před 2 měsíci +8

    Thank you for mentioning the actual distance where you noticed negative interaction (you said things planted within about 3 feet). Everything I’ve read says “ don’t plant near” potatoes, but doesn’t define what near means. I’ve got a small space, and was wondering if a foot or two was enough!

    • @inthegardenwithpatrick6247
      @inthegardenwithpatrick6247  Před 2 měsíci +1

      You are so welcome! Thanks for watching! To play it safe, stay away from them with pretty much anything. I would say 2 feet is not enough.

  • @GrandmaKarenHasAFarm
    @GrandmaKarenHasAFarm Před 2 měsíci +9

    I learned a lot from this video. Thanks for the information. That may explain why my potatoes didn't grow when planted under sunflowers!

  • @Ms.Merotica
    @Ms.Merotica Před 2 měsíci +18

    Maybe sunflowers are toxic to some plants and not others? What about three sisters gardening that uses sunflowers instead of corn? My sunflowers and tomatoes are growing together right now. Admittedly, the sunflowers are only 8 inches tall. We'll see what happens very soon.

    • @clubmike2910
      @clubmike2910 Před 2 měsíci +9

      I grew sunflowers at the end of my tomato bed last year and everything did great. I am doing the same this year.

    • @bluedreams517
      @bluedreams517 Před 2 měsíci +4

      They'll be fine most likely. I’ve always had one or two by my toms. Honestly, I usually let one or two (or 20) volunteers grow throughout my garden beds. My guess is that you need to have a lot of them to have a more toxic effect. To be fair….I don’t grow garlic and my potatoes/beans are never by sunflowers. Plu my sunflowers are usually not food ones which are colossal. In my other garden, I used sunflowers to help reduce deer damage to other plants.

    • @skubajen
      @skubajen Před 2 měsíci +3

      They say potatoes and beans are the most susceptible.

    • @kludgescraftsplus8631
      @kludgescraftsplus8631 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I would simply question the environmental conditions of his garden. I use a sunshade structure to protect my plants, and collect rainwater. I can't imagine how hot it gets against that stone wall with so very little greenery on the ground.

    • @inthegardenwithpatrick6247
      @inthegardenwithpatrick6247  Před 2 měsíci +3

      We are still not very hot here and the garden does not get the heat of the afternoon sun. During the height of the summer, I put sunshades up to protect the plants. I grew garlic in that same bed the previous year and had a bumper crop. Nothing changed except for the addition of my little volunteer friend that popped up. Thanks for watching! I do appreciate your comments too.

  • @Soilfoodwebwarrior
    @Soilfoodwebwarrior Před 2 měsíci +5

    I plant sunflowers every year in various parts of my gardens and have never noticed any delirious effects. I don't think 🤔 i buy it, garlic can be very finicky. Tomatoes, beans, peas cucumbers, cabbage, broccoli 🥦 are all also supposedly alliopathic.

  • @ObamaoZedong
    @ObamaoZedong Před 2 měsíci +3

    From a nutrition standpoint I don't eat many sunflower seeds because they are high in omega 6 but low in omega 3, meaning we have to add other foods rich in omega 3 to balance out the ratio, like walnuts, chia seed, flax seed, chlorella, squash, and leafy greens. It surprised me to learn during my nutritionist training that the amount of omega 3 you eat isn't as important as the ratio between omega 3 to omega 6, and should be as close to 1:1 as possible.

  • @JaniceMartin-fd8mr
    @JaniceMartin-fd8mr Před 2 měsíci +6

    Very interesting but something that I need to research further. I have never noticed this to be true, and I make sure to have a few sunflowers in each garden bed, for shade. Also, I live in a mobile home so am bordered by neighbors that love roundup. I plant sunflowers along all the joining borders to clean the soil from the toxins seeping over into my vegetables. What I did notice is that my day lilies did not do well next to the sunflowers. So I pulled all sunflowers from the lilly area. This year the day lillies are thriving. Time for more sunflower research!

  • @roge_lelapin
    @roge_lelapin Před 2 měsíci +2

    I simply didn't know, this explains alot

  • @Godisincontrol325
    @Godisincontrol325 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you.. This explains a lot of why my 3 sisters companion planting didn't work as well as I had hoped 😕 I subscribed to your channel

    • @inthegardenwithpatrick6247
      @inthegardenwithpatrick6247  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks for watching & subscribing! And... I love the username! Yes, He is...!

    • @Godisincontrol325
      @Godisincontrol325 Před měsícem +2

      @@inthegardenwithpatrick6247 you're welcome 😁 Happy to be here 🙏 Amen

  • @kristepioneerprincess
    @kristepioneerprincess Před 2 měsíci +2

    I wish I had this knowledge sooner. Guess I’ll find out soon enough.

  • @garybrinker4522
    @garybrinker4522 Před 2 měsíci +2

    We also have perennial Sunflowers that are shorter and more bunched up,,and loaded with flowers..I have a few growing among Iris,Daylilies, TeaRose,& Poppy mallow..

  • @kmc6506
    @kmc6506 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Do they also suppress weeds and grass? Maybe they could be used in combination with other allelopathic plants like black walnut to create a low maintenance landscape that would require less mowing and weeding?

  • @fcjcheah
    @fcjcheah Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you for the info. I was about to try the famous “three sisters” method by growing sunflower instead of corn in the middle. You saved me !

  • @wendybarclay7908
    @wendybarclay7908 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you for this very good information

  • @urbugnmetoday3183
    @urbugnmetoday3183 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Free bird food…

    • @edie4321
      @edie4321 Před 2 měsíci

      Only some birds can eat them. In New Mexico, I heard it was only Ravens. I was bummed.

  • @austin2842
    @austin2842 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I found this out the hard way by placing a bird feeder filled with sunflower seed under a mature spruce tree. I left the shells in place, thinking they would work as mulch. Nope. Killed the tree.

  • @normanhooten9445
    @normanhooten9445 Před 2 měsíci

    I knew about certain trees & shrubs being allelopathic, didn't suspect sunflowers. I actually planted some in grow bags with lettuce & arugula, also in a bag with sweet potatoes. Now I'll pull them up & grow them in a separate bag of their own. Curiously, I am allergic to sunflower seeds & can't eat them at all. Thanks for the heads-up.

  • @reyessoto7086
    @reyessoto7086 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Good video

  • @stevefritz5182
    @stevefritz5182 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I compost everything. I might now assume composting the roots and maybe any part of the plant may be a bad idea. Personally, I don't grow them but I pick up discards in my neighborhood and sunflowers, both wild and domesticated, are very popular.

    • @inthegardenwithpatrick6247
      @inthegardenwithpatrick6247  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I would think that if you are hot composting, it would not matter so much as the temp might kill any of the issues? Not sure about that, though. Thanks so much for watching!

    • @misterdubity3073
      @misterdubity3073 Před 2 měsíci

      I did a quick search and found a study that concluded the sesquiterpene lactones responsible for the allelopathic effect "disappear from soil in 90 days" due to binding with humic substances and being degraded by soil organisms. Having read about half-lives of other substances in soil, there can be a lot of variation depending on temperature, moisture, and what bacteria are present. My guess is: after incomplete composting, probably still a problem; but after a thorough composting to finished compost, probably OK. But that's just my guess. Cheers.

  • @ghengis430
    @ghengis430 Před 2 měsíci +2

    That's great! I now know where to plant/ not to. I wish they were snailiopathic. 😂

  • @DV-ol7vt
    @DV-ol7vt Před 2 měsíci

    I plant sunflowers next to my tomatoes for shade, I have some plated next to my pole beans and a row of pro cut sunflowers next to my corn and everything looks great. My beans live climbing on them.

  • @rubenskiii
    @rubenskiii Před 2 měsíci

    I grow sunflowers every year, and we also have potatoes everywhere, almost as a weed. Last year there where potatoes growing amongst the sunflowers, I didn’t think much of it but seeing this video has me confused.

  • @theresatraugott6970
    @theresatraugott6970 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for this video. I was wondering but I guess I figured it out. I had chipmunks spreading the sunflower seeds from my bird seed everywhere and last year I noticed that the plants around where I left sunflowers were much smaller than the others so I’m not leaving any more sunflowers in the vegetable garden.

  • @annmarie3520
    @annmarie3520 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Well, a little too late! I have sunflowers all around my garden except by the beans. I read that but never knew about all veggies!☹ But so far my garden is doing well.🤷🏼‍♀

    • @ashdav9980
      @ashdav9980 Před 2 měsíci

      I never heard of this either and planted two rows of sunflowers this year by my eggplant and tomatoes. I thought I was helping the pollinators and providing something pretty to see in the garden. Geez….now I will be watching to see if it has any effect.

    • @inthegardenwithpatrick6247
      @inthegardenwithpatrick6247  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing. Keep an eye on them and keep us posted!

  • @gardendreamsdiyschemes
    @gardendreamsdiyschemes Před 2 měsíci +5

    Good info, Patrick! I have mine near my raised garden beds but they’re on the ground. That shouldn’t affect my veggie plants right? It didn’t last year. I do have nasturtiums, dill, and marigolds growing near/around it and they seem fine for now. Good to know about it being by the garlic though!!!

    • @inthegardenwithpatrick6247
      @inthegardenwithpatrick6247  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Not too sure. I am hoping that the difference from the raised bed and the ground should not affect your veggies! Thanks for watching! I love your channel too! Everyone go check out @gardendreamsdiyschemes for some great content!😀

    • @petergraves9006
      @petergraves9006 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I got some parsley spinach and cilantro growing next to some it’s been a few weeks no problem yet veggies are young sunflowers are in full bloom veggies are green and healthy though for now

  • @matthawkins4579
    @matthawkins4579 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Thanks for this clip. I had about 20 small sunflower seeds that I was going to sow in amongst ny peppers to attract pollinators. Now I'll find something else.

  • @Peachy08
    @Peachy08 Před 2 měsíci

    Hmmm...I plant sunflowers less than a foot away from my tomatoes every year. An old gardener taught me this. They provide shade when it is getti g really hot out. As I am writing this I have a sunflower planted directly in front of every tomato plant. The tomatoes are already covered in blooms and even have baby tomatoes on them. The dunflowers are about 5 foot tall. I do this every year and have never had an issue.

  • @charlesbailey5579
    @charlesbailey5579 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I got potatoes in grow bags and want to plant Mammoth Sunflowers behind them, in the ground, about three feet. Does the distance even matter if they are in a bag?

    • @inthegardenwithpatrick6247
      @inthegardenwithpatrick6247  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I can’t say for sure but I would think that in separate containers it would be fine! Happy Gardening!

  • @miriamsuarez3520
    @miriamsuarez3520 Před 2 měsíci +1

    They are big feeders.

  • @TaLeng2023
    @TaLeng2023 Před 2 měsíci

    Didn't knew it was allopathic, just that the roots get everywhere. I read it's added to Three Sister gardens, as sacrificial crop. So does that mean beans, corn and squash are unaffected?

  • @garyreneker6226
    @garyreneker6226 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Good information, but for future reference: "Aliopathic"?. Doesn't exist.. Don't mean to sound snide or overly critical.. I did this before, and when someone called me out on it in front of a group of people it was embarrassing.. Thought I'd share this with you, so you don't have that happen to you.
    Allopathic: a system of medicine that aims to combat disease by using remedies (such as drugs or surgery) which produce effects different from or incompatible with those of the disease being treated.
    Allelopathy [the one you're referring to] is a biological phenomenon by which an organism produces one or more biochemicals that influence the germination, growth, survival, and reproduction of other organisms.

  • @wemuk5170
    @wemuk5170 Před 2 měsíci

    My sunchokes (Jerusalem artichokes) are next to my wild garlic. Does what you say about sunflowers apply to sunchokes, too? Oh dear. Sunchokes are supposed to be a kind of sunflowers, right?

    • @inthegardenwithpatrick6247
      @inthegardenwithpatrick6247  Před 2 měsíci

      Not sure. I would wait and see... I did not think that Sunflowers would have affected my garlic either.

  • @EarthBeing3
    @EarthBeing3 Před 2 měsíci

    I have sunflowers coming up in my lettuce box ~ should I remove them?

  • @sislertx
    @sislertx Před 2 měsíci

    Well well well...I suspected this...and also I'm suspecting if u grew them in an area and they flowered...and set seed...that area won't grow a lot of other flowers...I suspect this because of pot grown ones..I have about 10 large pots that I have tried to grow larkspur daisy rudebeckia transplants and all died but NATIVE sunflowers sprouted like MAD..WHOCH I HAD IN THERE LAST YEAR..

  • @LADYKAT...
    @LADYKAT... Před 2 měsíci

    Do you think it would be safe to plant them in a planter? Would I need to put the pot away from my vegetable plants? Does it seem to be only when the sunflower is planted directly in the same soil as my vegetables? Boy, bet you weren't ready for all of this lol. Thanks for the warning and have a good day.
    I'll try to grow in a pot separately and let you know ok?

    • @inthegardenwithpatrick6247
      @inthegardenwithpatrick6247  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I actually took that plant in the video and put it in a pot in another spot in my patio just to be safe! Thanks for watching!

  • @paulfairbairn1066
    @paulfairbairn1066 Před 2 měsíci

    The seeds of sunflowers grow in a Fibonacci pattern.

  • @charmc4152
    @charmc4152 Před 2 měsíci

    How far away from your other plants and vegetables should you plant sunflowers then?

  • @whysocurious7366
    @whysocurious7366 Před 2 měsíci

    Lol sunflowers are just like Amazon or Walmart xD any competition gets destroyed so that the sunflower can consume whatever the competition was consuming.

  • @Wigington24
    @Wigington24 Před 2 měsíci

    💉hint

  • @mcclaynjazmyn9845
    @mcclaynjazmyn9845 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Natives weren't here 3000 BC, Nice Try, But the Nephilim were...

    • @hotrodandrube9119
      @hotrodandrube9119 Před 2 měsíci

      Do research.

    • @mcclaynjazmyn9845
      @mcclaynjazmyn9845 Před 2 měsíci

      @@hotrodandrube9119 Preaching to the choir bub, it' why I said what I said and it's the damn truth, NEXT !