Every Legendary God in Magic Ranked by L.O.R.E.
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To everyone calling out me saying we were never going back to Kamigawa in the face of the Neon Dynasty announcement: I'd like to see some actual cards before I pass judgement, but so far it seems we are returning in name only, because they appear to be jumping ahead thousands of years and distancing themselves from everything that happened on our previous visit as much as possible. So yes, technically we are going back to Kamigawa, but by avoiding ALL the stuff from our initial trip, they are protecting themselves from making the same mistakes, but also don't really get credit for "going back there" like I said in the video.
Old Kamigawa whispering through the Neon Dynasty Saga cards like: “Remember us…remember, that we once lived”
Ninjutsu at least came back, but yeah, the set is quote different from the original block sets.
I Love how Iroas' bottom half is a bull and top half is human and Mogis' Topp half is a bull and bottom half is a man, I never noticed it before until i saw them side by side
o shit u rtite
Look up "Dictate of the Twin Gods". They're brothers.
Yeah, it’s been said plenty of times on their lore. I don’t want to try and guess whether their father was the bull and their mother the human or vice versa...
lol nice spot 😯
@@chrismaxwell3001 ,again,look up the card "dictate of the twin Gods".
Help, my Nissa on the shelf caught me proxying cards and now my christmas tree’s come to life and is trying to get to me
Oh my god that's awesome
Nissa, Who Shakes The Boxes Under The Tree
Just scoop
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Hazoret also has one of the most tragic stories in MtG. She is the loving mother, a protector god. But Bolas brainwashes her to be an executioner. Entire generations of her own children died at the point of her lance. And everyone involved was trained to think this was a good thing.
“I don’t understand how an archer has double strike”
Clearly you have never taken the rapid shot feat in D&D
Imagine being the guild on ravnica that’s litteraly a church, but the right religion was the crazy homeless guys who worship bacon
Well I'm pretty sure the higher ups on the orzhoc syndicate don't give a shit bout religion.
Or anything at all save money.
Super late to comment but Rakdos is also a very real creature on ravnica so the guys worshipping him are “right” too.
"You cannot devote yourself to a creature that only exists to destroy you and your home"
Yeah tell that to Domri Rade, oh wait.🤣
I sincerely hope that the "Nissa on the shelf" joke was a reference to the word "nisse" in various languages, which are the kind of elves that Santa ensla- I mean employs
...it is now!
Nissa is literally a fucking elf.
@@CosmikZombie r/woosh
@@CosmikZombie Actually, according to the lore, she is not in fact a fucking elf, just a regular one.
@@CosmikZombie Chandra is sad that part of the story is left out. Also, that she's not an elf.
9:49 You could say Kefnet had a big impact on the story. But I'm more on the impression that the story had a big IMPACT on Kefnet
We are getting more gods already lol. Can't wait for the 2021 update.
nice pfp fam, I used to love that game as a kid but man did it scare me in the glitch levels
What you mean by more gods? Sorry for the ignorance
@@stoneshovel24 At the start of next year we will be heading to Kaldheim, a norse themed plane which will house norse themed gods.
@@shideon perfect, thanks!!!
@@stoneshovel24 wizards has spoiled some figurines of some of the kaldheims gods
Ryan: "We're never going back to Kamigawa"
Me: *laughs in Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty coming in 2022*
Please no tell me ain't so
@@codyenglert1989 there was leaked official artwork and information on three possible diferent stories about a new planeswalker from there a while ago. They were aparently still undecided on what his story will be, but all three versions include him having ability to move objects with his mind and stuff.
Damn I'm just kinda annoyed they are going from dark fantasy to neon futuristic
Good lord i hope not
@@codyenglert1989 I mean the only bits of lore they would realy need to retcon are the fact Tamyio doesnt look like she is from a futuristig plane and the fact that in Magic: Origins Chandra was on Kamigawa. Other than that, nothing else realy needs to be retconned as far as I know since original Kamigawa block events happened more than 1000 years ago
"When we return to Kamigawa... we're never going back there." Why did you have to hurt my feelings there Ryan :'(
Hey, they say we are getting cyberpunk neo tokyo kamigawa eventually, and I will personally hate it with all my guts and I’m even a weeb myself! way to go wotc...
@@impendio it could be really cool depending on how far they go with it. While there are a lot of problems with wizards, they're theming is usually on point so I have some faith in them
I love the Spice8Rack reference. Im glad to see others who like him
Nylea must've lost at least one Reflection point because neither of her cards have or grant Reach yet both depict her with a bow and arrow
t h i s
Same with a certain white God
I just asked Mark on his Tumblr about this and he said it's because design couldn't come up with creature abilities for all 5 of the gods.
Aaand funny her bow has reach, yet she does not.
3:35
"Perhaps when we return to Kamigawa..."
:D
"...we're never going back there."
:'(
Hey, they say we are getting cyberpunk neo tokyo kamigawa eventually, and I will personally hate it with all my guts and I’m even a weeb myself! way to go wotc...
LORE videos are starting to become some of my favorite videos on YT! I've been looking forward to this.
I still hold out hope that one day, we will set foot on Kamigawa again. If not for that set than other legendary heavy sets would not have existed as they do
we went back
Oh my gosh thank you for making this!!!! I left a comment on the Theros video asking for something like this, but it probably got lost in the comment section. Thank you for making this!!!
This is immense!
Don't you mean oh my gods?
@@eitanelran3877 Ah ha, you've got a point!
Kruphix definetly should be on top though.
@@chaotica-game985 I agree, but I'm a little biased.
What about the forgotten God?
Oh well, guess he forgot
Here to respectfully simp for Nicole, or if I may, Niswole.
Strong lady
Fill the Mono Red deck with allllll kinds of looting effects, or even wheels. You're gonna need a full grip to get her ability to just wreck people! Then throw in some cards like Curse of Bloodletting or Dictate of the Twin Gods to amp that DAMAGE
5:43 Damn girl! Looking good!
Correct
hell yeah!! i've been waiting for this!! congrats on the sponsor by the way, you guys deserve it
Been waiting for this one ever since you started the L.O.R.E series. Looking forward to your dragon rankings. Keep up the good work, Ryan!
Now that'll be a long list
Great videos. Great series. I love these lore videos. They’re not too long and not too short and highly informative. I think I’ll be a patron of that means I get more of these videos sooner.
A human-bull hybrid... I guess it'd be called Cenminos?
Edit: Scratch that, If anything it'd be Taurminos, he's literally just a reverse minotaur.
Keeping minos as part of the name makes no sense, Iroas has nothing to do with King Minos. Minotaur means "Bull of Minos", Centaur means "bull-piercer" (I have no idea where that name comes from), so the -taur part of the name would probably stay the same. Occasionally centaurs were called hippocentaurs (hippo meaning horse) so maybe Iroas would be called a Taurocentaur.
The "taur" in "centaur" translates to "bull" so he could arguably be described as an etymologically accurate centaur. "Centaur" can be translated as "piercing bull", so a bull-man wielding a spear is an oddly accurate depiction.
The only points taken from Nylea’s Reflection score is the lack of reach
Love the channel, Ryan. keep up the good work!
this is becoming my favorite magic channel and favorite series, love me some story time
Excellent video! As soon as you said someone was going to win the golden mustache, I was eager to see someone photoshopped with it on their faces.
"perhaps when we go back to kamigawa... We're never going back there"
MTG:Kamigawa Neon Dynasty in 2022
This has to be my favourtie 'ranked by LORE' videos. Great job :)
Fantastic video as usual! Alwais the best time here on this channel!
I try God Unchained! I think it is cool i'll try to continue playing!
Wow Nicole is buffed,holy shamoly she did a great job with the gym!
Awesome can't wait for another long video! Thank.you!!!
"I feel attacked! Let's rob em!" - Rogues players probably
Etali Primal Storm has been my favorite deck for a long time now because it scales to the table so well no matter what power level they are. It’s also very fun to explore how red ramps and tackles card draw!
I really recommend reading the Dnd book on Theros for its lore. It has stuff like the origin of each god, like Erebos coming from Heliod's literal shadow, Keranos being the child of Purphoros and Thassa ,and Phenax being the first returned (some of the origins are factual, others are in wolrd legends, but I 'm not sure which is which from the top of my head.)
I don't really want to encourage Wizards to spread essential lore around and place it in products designed for other games. That's kind of not fair to their established players, and like you said, even in that book it's hard to determine what actually counts as truth or myth.
@@MagicArcanum While I'd compare the dnd books more to stuff like the art books in terms of an outside source for lore, a perspective I probably got since I used to read dnd books for their lore, and just ignore the gameplay side, years before I started actually playing, I do understand your point. As a fan of both games I enjoy thouse 'mixed products', but I get it annoys some of the fans of only one of then, on both sides. I'd like to have that lore made avaliable through other sources as well.
Love this series!
Would nice to see a lore ranking about demons
if you're building a mono red deck, I would consider Marton Stromgald in the 99 because he's almost a craterhoof behemoth for red and he's an old legendary card which is always fun. I personally run him in my Moraug extra combat step commander deck.
As always thank you so much Nicole and Ryan for all of the time, effort, and care you both poor into your content! I hope you both have a great rest of your week! Stay safe! :D
When we in the Gruul clans prayed for the day we could ALL go ham, we didn't expect our wish to be taken so literally.
*Picture of Nicole pops up on Screen*
Me: HOT DAMN.
first face reveal???
@@impendio As far as I know, yes. And *gods be damned* is she a looker!
@@impendio no, I was just watching the old Slivers video and she's on camera there. I think that's her. I don't know, I'm confused.
Double strike archer = quickly shooting 2 arrows?
I kinda see it as (first strike) arrow (normal damage) melee attack. So more shown opera's skill with more than just a bow.
@@Josh-bn4ki
Opera lol
@@draxthemsklonst fecking auto correct is gonna get me killed at some point
Really enjoy these LORE videos! For a red commander deck, I really enjoyed Etali, with haste enabelers and then the deck with ramp and other big creatures that enjoyed the haste that i neede for etali anyways. Daretti was also fun, but is more artefact then red. Also, krak the thumbless, togo weapensmith and breeches (these last two interact favorable with eachother) could be really fun mono red partners. All in all red is one of my favourite colors in EDH, sunbirds invocation, experimental frenzy and stolen startegies are just so much fun.
By all means, your #1 is definitely #1 by my rating too. I wish we could have a one-armed dog mom card in a future set, she deserves many more representations. Definitely the most deserving of praise.
My favorite thing to do with Red is double or triple damage. There are quick temporary ways, but my favorite are permanents. Furnace of Rath, Angraths Marauders, Curse of the Bloodletting and (Curse of the Pierced Heart for that matter) the new Fiery Emancipation, and for relevancy Dictate of the Twin God's, which is the first one I pulled, and I used it in my first mono red deck with a promo version as well. The art in both featured different sides of a fight between Iroas and Mogis.
Awesome video! I have two EDH decks with Gods at the head; neither were top 10, but both were top 20!
My mono red commander deck is ilharg and runs "confusion in the ranks", "scrambleverse", "thieves auction", "illicit auction" and other crazy cards like that. Doesn't work well for quarantine webcam magic, but it's a lot of fun in person... Whenever we get to do that again
As always love the content!
I’ve got a post war of the spark D&D campaign where the players dimension do....planeswalk between mtg inspired and D&D lands. The gods or lack there of are really nice to add in.
Also just saying, I’ve had the zendikar part of the world/plane dealing with the lack of eldrazi(gods) for like a year or 2 now.
For everyone’s sake as well. Try out this game, I just downloaded and finished my first few matches, Its pretty good! Hearthstone meets magic.
I've heard what Iroas is referred to as a Manotaur (Dungeons and Dragons). Love the content Ryan and Nicole, keep it up!
I didn't know Kruphix was so aware of threats from other planes. I think thats cool. He's always been one of my favorite gods. They mentioned him in a card in commander legends that i think is sweet. Horizon Stone has one of his abilities on it and cool flavor text to go with it.
Could you do top 10 merfolk, elves or faeries? No matter how long I play the game I always come back to these tribes. Great video as always.
In regards to monored Commander, one of the big tips I could give is to have multiple gameplans. The nature of red's card draw will usually result in you losing out on something by discarding it or exiling it. Redundancies and alternatives all help with making sure you retain a path to victory.
Also, have fun!
It's more meant for casual play, but I did put together a Hazoret Voltron commander deck. I added burnspells and some discards to remove any small creatures attempting to block so I can get in. This deck has won before in an insane way. The final opponent was running an Aminatou deck and took control of my commander. Bad new was he could attack because he was getting too many cards in hand. I had a bearer of the heavens in play an became swinging at him with that which did win when I doubled the damage dealt by the creature.
As someone who has a Hazoret commander deck this list pleases me greatly.
This video came out the same day leaks came out about Kaldhiem.
Coincidence? I think not
I have a super fun purphoros mono commander deck using his destructive nature on phoenixes :) Definately worth the look into
Definitely suggest trying a mono-red Purphuros God of the Forge commander deck! Obviously going crazy with the token making and cards that help you deal that extra ooomph when hitting with purphuros. Such as damage doublers and even Torbran! lol
My boy Kruphix getting inside the top 5 is more than good enough
I was holding out on hazoret from the start! My smile got bigger with every passing God.
Likewise. I was rooting for Jackalmom the whole time. I only wish she was a bit more viable in Commander. Hopefully that wish will be fulfilled next time she gets a card.
@@hyousai I lowkey want a Boros Hazoret, being the survivor. I feel her biggest lacking in commander is being restricted to Mono-red.
The war of the spark story has a lot of of problems but the biggest is that bontu exploded rather than becoming an all-powerful zombie-god planeswalker that starts terrorizing the multiverse
Making an edh deck around hazoret will be hard...but you can get there with planeswalker/creatures/enchantments that allow impulse draw.
Purphorose Bronze blooded is an excellent monored commander.
His one draw back is that deck tends to swing wildly from doing basically nothing to exploding your entire hand onto the board and wiping out everyone in a big surprise turn.
But this has been my experience with monored commanders in general.
I did not expect an actual Golden Mustache at the end 🤣
My favorite of the Gods of Magic made number 1! I'm so happy 😄
I didn't see that top 3 coming at all. Interesting stuff
I've been looking forward to this.
Might be too late to give tips for mono red but as a land guy i can help with ramping ......
koth the planeswalker helps with mountains and valakut gives free bolts per mountain, the mdfc from znr are good and vance blasting cannon gives reusable repeating barrage
Monored commander deck? I love mine! (helmed by Kiki-Jiki)
here's what I use for card advantage:
Skullclamp
Endless Atlas
Valakut Exploration
Karn, Scion of Urza
Chandra, Fire Artisan
Chandra, Torch of Defiance
Chandra, Pyromaster
Outpost Siege
Mind’s Eye
Chandra, Flamecaller
Commune with Lava
If you need more,
Vance's Blasting Cannons
Dream Pillager
Tower of Fortunes
Loreseeker's Stone
wheel effects
I was not expecting anti-rogue tech, but I'm here for it
My Zurzoth EDH deck is one of my faves ever; if you've got a spare $200 lying around, a Gauntlet of Might is pretty much the biggest flex mono-red can pull off right now (save for a Summer Magic Wheel of Fortune, ikik)
If you're going to build Hazoret, I recommend cards that can be cast from the grave. Flashback, Escape, Jumpstart, etc. Even when your hand is empty, you have a full hand to play.
Great video as always! I came here to ask one thing though: I've been listening to the Dragon Shield podcast, and the second most recent episode featured the village of Letson. I don't know how it's spelled since I'm listening to the story rather than reading, but I've been wanting to ask--did you get that added to the story as a tribute to Nicole? I've been hoping that was the case since I first heard it. :-)
I can neither confirm nor deny she's the source of inspiration but it sure is interesting that they're spelled the same way, isn't it? 😇
I am really excited for the Kaldheim set and there because I like the Norse Gods so much. Hope they are just as fun and lore relevant as some of the higher ranked cards in your list.
I recommend Jimmy decks from the comand zone. He plays red deck all the time. And an encanment that's good, is the one that's give you one red mana at each upkeep. And give you more the longer its last
Can someone please explain the flavor of klothys being gruul and dealing damage and gaining life and ramping? I don't really see any pattern. Thanks.
Just letting you know that I preemptively gave this video a thumbs up. Theros is my favorite plane and the gods are my favorite creature type. Gods are the only cards that I actively collect just to have.
Next; Every Legendary Angels in Magic Ranked by L.O.R.E.!!!
Sneak attack would be super beneficial in a mono red hazoret, also throw in sundial of the infinite so those sneak attack and purphurose bronze blooded creatures stay on the battlefield permanently. I'd also recommend Leyline Tyrant. And if you run nothing but basic mountains since you won't be keeping cards in hand much you can run burning earth so non-basic lands deal damage to their controller. Zozu might be a good add. I'd also recommend Fiery Emancipation. Thrill of possibility and faithless looting. Or if you wanna run a vampire sub-theme there is a mono red vampire I think that gives all your vampires madness so you can cast them when you discard them. I'd also run braid of fire, so you can get activations from hazoret during your upkeep.
Awesome video. I would like to have at least a passing reference to the apexes from Ikoria. Not that they are godly or anything like it, it's just that they have mythos about them. And that could be the start of something.
My two favorite Gods both work best in Commander. And only one of them is even in Arcanum's Top Ten.
Kruphix is the Commander of my Blue/Green Commander Deck, because he's indestructible, which generally gives him better staying power than most other Commanders, and he's effective on the battlefield, even when he's relegated to only being an Enchantment. This is because you have no maximum hand size when he's in play, and also because you can "stack mana," by tapping lands for nothing, then keeping that colorless mana in reserve, for later/emergency use. In Commander, in which games tend to go a little bit "long" in duration, this is a massive bonus in the later stages of the battle.
My second favorite is Oketra (non-eternal). I love that she is Indestructible, AND has double-strike, which makes her a singularly lethal force on the battlefield. And her "weakness" of being unable to operate without you having at least three other creatures on the battlefield is easy to get around, if you place her in a token deck. White and Green are both potent token-producing colors. So Oketra goes into my White-Green Commander Deck (not as the Commander, but she's still a pretty huge weapon, should I come across her during a game). She's also pretty bleeping LETHAL, when she's paired up with someone like ELESH NORN!! Imagine Elesh Norn beefing Oketra up, while also broadly weakening your opponent's battlefield state, just by sitting there! Elesh Norn helps Oketra BRING THE PAIN to my opponents!
3:36 That was both funny and sad. I really like a lot of the kamigawa mechanics and cards, like the orochi, but I know that they will never go back there, unless it's a one-off card
I wish we could have gotten Hazorets spear as an equipment. It's got such a cool design
In aspect what you said was the god of your Favorite Color Parring with the God if Gorgons fir me it would be Athreos, i love Orzhov Decks i have 2 Commander decks and Both Are Mardu (manly Orzhov with a splash of Red ) and the "revival" theme of Athreos god of Passage can be devastating in Combo with one of my most fav Legendary Creatures , Teysa Karlov. I love the Orzhov Guild of Ravnica because of the Dark theme and Plots in the Background while being a Church and part white to "support" the Community of Ravnica. And i really like the story of the Orzhov guild too with the Ghost Council , Teysa and Kaya.
If anyone did read this and is thinking which Commanders i did choose one deck is kaalia of the Vast (with mainly angels and demons) and 2nd is an Aristocrat deck with alesha who smiles at death as Commander with Teysa Karlov as hidden Commander in the 99
The nft ad from 2 years ago is like a childhood picture with a new bike that then you broke your leg with a few months after
Yeah. At the time, I wasn't fully aware of the ecological implications of blockchain-driven technology. I have not run another advertisement with this company and/or their game since, and I don't plan to, but I did sign a contract with them at the time which means the video must remain up (at least for now.)
While I do have some regrets in endorsing a game based on blockchain tech, I do not regret taking a sponsorship. I have bills, the same as everyone else, and sadly, I don't have enough patrons (yet) to be at a point where I can turn down generous offers like I received from Gods Unchained.
@@MagicArcanum anyone looking at the 2yrs ago date and holding this against you is just being mean, you carry on king
I would’ve honestly expected Heliod to rank higher but Hazoret was my top pick from the start. Surviving the hour of devastation through sheer power and will force and then trumping over nicol bolas while becoming the sole true protector of her people after all the lies had been revealed and literally fighting the horrors of the dessert for Amonketh is way more than any god has ever done for their followers.
For me in particular Kruphix would be the most interesting of the Theros gods, he’s seen some shit, he knows they are fucked but in the end he never really took the proactive approach to save Theros, one way or the other. If we ever get a Phyrexian Invasion of Theros (as kinda foretold by Elspeth’s Nightmare) I hope he gets more time in the spotlight.
If you are looking to play Mono-red in Commander, my biggest tip is just dont get attached to the cards you have right now. Red loves wheels, exile until end of turn, and looting style draws. So just dont get too attached to what you have right now, it's much better to see what the future may hold!
I have 3 god Commander decks, two of my top 3 favorite are new Thassa and new Heliod. Also have Erebos, not a great deck but I love him so much. I also throw Amohnket gods into a lot of decks. Thanks for the cool god video! Signed, this atheist.
If you're building a Hazoret deck, I highly recommend the card "Amok". It's a cheap way to get cards out of your hand and still get value from them.
Plus, you can go "Amok, amok, amok!" when you cast it!
"you can't devote yourself to a god that only exist to destroy you and your home."
dude read some ancient Sumerian myths, the people basically worshiped the gods so they wouldn't blow them up out of spite, love the video
Yeah but they "knew" about those gods, while Scarab and Locust just showed up and started wrecking things. Didn't leave much time for people to devote themselves (even out of desperation) ya know?
@@MagicArcanum No yeah fair, I could imagine though one or two people after they killed Rhonas going, "oh this guy is even stronger than Rhonas, I'm gonna work for him."
I just noticed Iroas is a reverse minotaur since he has a bull half, and mogis is a normal minotaur. It fits them pretty well, if only they where more mirrored.
Laughs in neon dynasty
Aesthetically speaking, I like Thassa the most. I have a goddess leg piece tattoo, similar, similar to her, only with an octopuses lower body.
Kruphix, Phenax, and Athreos are also up there!!!
'-at the end of Theros: Beyond Death, but that's a story for another time.' Wow.
Love this series!!!
For my king Ryan 😁👑 @MagicArcanum
Creature :
Grim Initiate
Aven Eternal
Gleaiming Overseer
Vizier of the Scorpion
Dreadhorde Twin
Eternal Skylord
Herald of the Dreadhorde
Lazotep Reaver
Frontier Warmonger
Neheb Dreadhorde Champion
Instant / Soccery :
Invade the City
Relentless Advance
Lazotep Planting
Honor of the God Pharao
Callous Dismissal
Toll of the Invasion
Crush Dissent
Planeswalker :
Liliana, Walker of the Dead
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i like these!
Maybe next time a Commanders ranked by L.O.R.E.? =) (and if that is to many, mabye only popular, played once first)
also: holy shit nicole
If you are building a mono red deck you might want to run Commune with Lava. It's one of the better impulse draw options out there.
Ilharg has some lore in his encounter with Ghired, who was exiled from Selesnya's conclave after being inspired by the Boar god's way. Might have been a worthy mention.
Oketra the archer and Nylea the archer, both without reach. 😂
I am so excited to go back to amonkhet and see how Hazoret is doing and what new trials and tribulations the people are facing trying to rebuild civilization on the plane!
(But knowing wotc they will just skip over all that)
With Kaldheim out, I can't help but wonder how the list would turn out with its gods included, a list update video perhaps?
Hey Ryan I was wondering if you could make a video on progenitues. That would be cool.
"Perhaps when we return to Kamigawa... We're never going back there."
Neon Dynasty says hello
Until we actually see some cards, it feels like we are returning in name only, and Neon Dynasty will be nothing like its predecessors.