How To Lace a Hub Motor at Home Like a Pro. The Single Cross Build

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  • čas přidán 26. 02. 2019
  • In this video our resident wheel builder Robert shows how to lace a hub motor using a basic single cross lacing pattern, using the bicycle itself as a truing stand and without any dedicated wheel-building gear. We made this video since most detailed references for wheel lacing cover the more complicated triple cross builds, but that is not necessary or even desired with hub motors which have a much larger flange diameter. A single cross lacing is much easier to wrap your head around on a first time build.
    For more info on calculating spoke lengths and wheel lacing tips, have a look at our online spoke calculator designed specifically for hub motors.
    www.ebikes.ca/tools/spoke-cal...
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Komentáře • 308

  • @StartledPancake
    @StartledPancake Před rokem +22

    I instantly trust any man who wears his glasses on a leash and drinks juice from a wine glass. Clearly a person of wisdom and culture.

  • @ianc1498
    @ianc1498 Před rokem +26

    I loved the wine glass next to the workspace... at that point, I knew this was going to be a realistic DIY video 😀

  • @urbancargobikes4930
    @urbancargobikes4930 Před 5 lety +115

    Hands down the best ebike wheel building video out there! Thanks so much!

    • @BAAcic
      @BAAcic Před rokem +1

      Yes but building an ebike wheel isn't any different from building a normal bike wheel.

    • @jimmyli4503
      @jimmyli4503 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I think he specifically did elbows out for both stability and also because hub motors put much more torque on spoke heads so you can't do alternating elbows in/out like a lot of road bike wheel builds recommend

    • @jimmyli4503
      @jimmyli4503 Před 8 měsíci

      Also a 1 cross reduces the spoke angle compared to the normal 3 cross

  • @malingehring165
    @malingehring165 Před rokem +1

    I love your attitude. You are the man to listen to. The man who builds freakin wheels all day long!!

  • @stonetempelpug655
    @stonetempelpug655 Před 3 lety +8

    Now that’s what I call good old fashion customer service. Thanks for sharing your knowledge fine sir. I will be placing an order.

  • @front2427
    @front2427 Před rokem

    this is the voice of your conscience the primal voice of your ancestors.

  • @algrayson8965
    @algrayson8965 Před 4 lety +4

    Wheel building is easy once you understand what is going on. I built a few back when I ran a small bike shop.
    It was handy having a large selection of spoke lengths.
    As there weren't any online spoke calculators then I worked up the formula.

    • @GrinTechnologies
      @GrinTechnologies  Před 3 lety +5

      I'm sure that would help keep your trigonometry fresh on the mind! We're pretty spoiled these days being able to have computer programs do all the math for us.

  • @markostlund
    @markostlund Před 5 lety +34

    Best wheel building video ever!! Robert you rock! I especially enjoyed your comments at the end. :) (You have built a few wheels for me.)

  • @SuperRJ2012
    @SuperRJ2012 Před rokem

    Lol this was so easy to understand i don't see a point in even buying one anymore. Thank you for this.

  • @cartmanrlsusall
    @cartmanrlsusall Před 9 měsíci

    Wine glass and a knowledgeable but easy going guy on a sofa yup this video tutorial is a winner

  • @paratrooperchad
    @paratrooperchad Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks Robert you certainly did inspire me LOL. If you hear any cursing coming from the direction of Florida I didn’t listen well enough. Thanks for the clear instruction and humor. I’m very easy to confuse and I think I got it the first time. That’s an accomplishment for sure. Now I’ve got to pick up the hub, rim, and spokes and see what I am made of LOL.

  • @solarwind907
    @solarwind907 Před měsícem

    Very well explained. Almost looking forward to my wheels needing repair!

  • @modris2980
    @modris2980 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you so much for making this video. Fixing the lateral and out of round movement with zip ties was pretty easy. Just have to be patient of finding the culprits. Best teacher ever.

  • @davidleon9206
    @davidleon9206 Před 2 lety

    This probably saved me from hours and hours of frustration and mistakes. Thanks!

  • @rstjx3j183
    @rstjx3j183 Před 2 lety +12

    Thanks for taking the time in putting this together for us all.
    I was curious of the process, now I have been educated and took much value from this tutorial.
    I wish you well in your endeavours.

  • @46B3x2you
    @46B3x2you Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you Robert. It's not Rocket Surgery. We just need to know how it's done. Thanks to Grin Technologies for keeping it do-able for all of us and taking the pressure off some of the Roberts out there. Loved the video.

  • @yannickcloutier8020
    @yannickcloutier8020 Před 3 lety

    hi Robert am one of your customer and i thank you for your great skill i never own a better hub motor :3

  • @webchez69
    @webchez69 Před 4 lety +3

    You are a master... I have built my own wheels before and learned several tricks.. The oil, the nipple installer, I could go on... I love the wooden hammer handle. I used to squeeze spoke groups until my hands were RAW... thank you so much!!

  • @morkovija
    @morkovija Před 5 lety +16

    The outro is proper tho! Thats where its at!

  • @michaelsanders9506
    @michaelsanders9506 Před rokem

    Explain very well for the average person that's good with their hands. Not all of us have a bike shop to work in. I'm relacing an Alex rim also. A 1200 watt ebikeling rear hub. Tried solid Tannus tires. Worked great til they cracked my rim 6 inch from the weld point and at the Weld point. A700c × 40 tire a 23mm inside with a rim. I know hardtail without any suspension all the shock was being absorbed by the rim. The solid tires had the pressure of roughly 80 psi. They were extremely light wait. Gave a minor rolling resistance. And could never get a flight which was great. Do the rim cracked thank you for the video very helpful and knowledgeable person thank you

  • @leesylvester8713
    @leesylvester8713 Před 5 měsíci

    Your building a wheel for me currently, should be shipped out any day. Thank you.

  • @barelytrine
    @barelytrine Před 3 lety

    I love it when pros have a sense of humour. Great video!

  • @pwdrhrn
    @pwdrhrn Před 3 lety +1

    A store in Mississauga told me it would be about $51 to repair 1 spoke. After seeing this, I'll do it myself. I have a zip tie!

  • @carolrocky9803
    @carolrocky9803 Před 3 lety

    Thank you now maybe I will remember all this great info, without re-watching it a dozen more times.

  • @johnkeogh4585
    @johnkeogh4585 Před rokem

    Excellent video. Clear, thorough easy to understand and without the b.s.

  • @jimanderson4444
    @jimanderson4444 Před rokem

    Your the coolest bro, I'll maybe one day do this. My 1st was my unicycle, 60 years back. Dad said if you take that apart , you'll never get it back together, ha, showed him.

  • @offcomer
    @offcomer Před 5 lety +4

    Absolutely bloody brill video. Love the idea of taking the hammer to the wheel! Many a time I've felt like doing that!

  • @tonyp3391
    @tonyp3391 Před 4 lety +1

    The first person I've ever seen actually set a bicycle wheel right, besides myself that is, lol. I've spent 6-8 hours before figuring out and teaching myself how to properly align a wheel, because the place I bought it from said it was within specs. The brakes were dragging on parts of the wheel. I was mad! Anyways I got it figured out wish I'd have had this video then. I've since put twisted spokes on my harley. Lol, anyways, many thunbs up on great lacing video.

  • @AndrewSmith-bf9sl
    @AndrewSmith-bf9sl Před 4 lety +2

    this is great. you're genuine. thanks for showing how things work. hope to do business with you soon.
    thanks again.
    Andrew

  • @sandymacpherson9400
    @sandymacpherson9400 Před 3 lety +1

    Great Vid! Explains clearly, the arcane art of wheel building, with some humour thrown in for good measure.

  • @DFX2KX
    @DFX2KX Před 3 lety +2

    what a fantastically informative video. That really doesn't seem as hard as it looks after you explained it! nice that with the exception of the cross pattern, this applies to normal hubs, too. For those of us that want or need to replace them.

  • @KirkHMiller
    @KirkHMiller Před 2 lety

    This is great! I have my hub motor, just waiting for the spokes to ship- Thank you for the incredible calculator!

  • @Makemrule1973
    @Makemrule1973 Před 3 lety +1

    My recent eMTB conversion has left me with odd wheels and have thought about this for a while, you make it look so simple that I may indulge in this black art to settle my odd wheel OCD, you are a star, expertly delivered - I have much to learn fellow Robert :)

  • @Milkybar3320011
    @Milkybar3320011 Před 10 měsíci

    You make it look so easy, but it is an art form and if my e-bike ever reaches 70mph, I’d want a pro to build the wheels, brilliant video.

  • @jman1057
    @jman1057 Před 2 lety

    What a great video. When I am ready to build, I will be coming back to this one!

  • @Dvalukis59
    @Dvalukis59 Před 2 lety

    wonderful addition to the knowledge base of ebikes!! bravo!!

  • @azhandyandy
    @azhandyandy Před 8 měsíci

    You're a great teacher. Great video edits as well. Thank you!

  • @ridingmtl
    @ridingmtl Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic! Thanks so much, i just did my first winter and i need a full rebuild. This is well explained and from the shop to you living room Awesome work.

  • @adamperkins2695
    @adamperkins2695 Před 2 lety

    That whole video was great, but the last thirty seconds made my week! Thanks for the lesson!

  • @THENEWWRANGLER
    @THENEWWRANGLER Před 4 lety +2

    Robert did such a fantastic job of repairing my 20 x 4 fat tire bike wheel the thing is running perfectly he did a great job

    • @manp1039
      @manp1039 Před 4 měsíci

      what needed repair on it?

  • @FarmerFpv
    @FarmerFpv Před 3 lety +7

    Dude, you're the best teacher ever, I succeeded in taking my wheel and hub apart for powder coating and was able to lace it back together with confidence! Thank you so much! I need to have you build one for me it must be crazy true compared to mine. Need to also PayPal Robert some money for a Coffe at least this video is gold. Also because we have the same cool name Robert, lol!

    • @Mash3OH3
      @Mash3OH3 Před 11 měsíci

      I can’t seem to locate any venders selling the laces and rims.

  • @StuWright
    @StuWright Před 4 lety +2

    just what i was looking for , thanks for the video sir!

  • @chai058
    @chai058 Před 3 lety

    I been looking for this information to fix my wheel for a while, thank you very much ! Very helpful video!! Thank you very much 🙏

  • @allandevine9158
    @allandevine9158 Před 4 lety

    Cheers guys, loved the outtakes :-), very helpful as I need to rebuild a wheel.

  • @atelier1975
    @atelier1975 Před 3 lety +1

    Translucently clear stuff.
    I thought this was all-in-all a very skilled, impressive piece of communication. I don't know (Justin? Robert?) if you've made similar videos on the other key parts of DIY-ebikery but there is probably a big need: the ridiculous price of buying a ready-made and underpowered ebike, at least here in Europe and the UK particularly, arguably expresses the mystification widely felt about other parts of ebikes, including among Local Bike Shop workers and home-tinkerers, probably particularly battery building and motor repairs (and choosing parts). Bikes are simple and electricity feels unsimple. So it might be a worthwhile area for repeating this video's amazing trick on in the future (if you haven't already). Hola de Inglaterra chicos, J

  • @MrTimmmers
    @MrTimmmers Před 4 lety +1

    Brilliant , enjoyed watching someone make it look methodical :)

  • @smilerite7321
    @smilerite7321 Před 4 lety +1

    Perfact. What a great video making a scray job look very straight forward. Thank you so much for your help. Your a good Guy ;) .

  • @Cowardlyduck
    @Cowardlyduck Před 5 lety

    Awesome stuff. Learned a few tricks from that for sure. Keep it coming!!!

  • @mscir
    @mscir Před 2 lety

    Great video, thank you. And thank you for the spoke calculator.

  • @tonyfrewin4822
    @tonyfrewin4822 Před 4 lety

    Absolutely brilliant video! Thanks 🙏

  • @SpencerSkelly
    @SpencerSkelly Před 4 lety +1

    Really great walkthrough. Thankyou

  • @miekndestinee
    @miekndestinee Před 3 lety

    Thanks so much, I bought an ebike and the motor went out. I was sent just a motor and had to install, which was pretty simple after watching your video. I also purchased Grin's updated torque arm, which is working perfectly on my 1000w ebike forks.

  • @EugeneShamshurin
    @EugeneShamshurin Před 7 měsíci

    Love the ending of this informative tutorial!

  • @TodayGarage
    @TodayGarage Před 2 lety

    This video was incredibly helpful, thank you guys so much!

  • @richardfraser-brenchley7297

    You are a legend I could not work out how to do this and was just going to give up watched this and because you explained it so well I'm just about to start it again thank you very much for taking the time to make this it's awesome to see a professional 😊

  • @fraaggl
    @fraaggl Před 2 lety

    aaaaaaaaaand... you got a new subscriber !
    Efficient, simple, direct to the point and with almost no tools. That's my shit right there, bushcraft style !

    • @GrinTechnologies
      @GrinTechnologies  Před 2 lety

      Haha awesome! Welcome to the channel!

    • @fraaggl
      @fraaggl Před 2 lety

      @@GrinTechnologies your spoke calculator is the best i've seen in my 3 days experience in respoking a wheel...

    • @fraaggl
      @fraaggl Před 2 lety

      @@GrinTechnologies do you have a trick to thread the spoke ? I can't find any cheap tool to do that...

  • @randomculprits
    @randomculprits Před 5 lety +9

    This is pretty great.

  • @mopuccino6025
    @mopuccino6025 Před 4 lety

    thank you so much ,loved the video..you guys are real pros!

  • @Manifestings
    @Manifestings Před 3 lety

    Fantastic job. You made it look easy...Thanks. Very motivating..

  • @therawbieboardzshow9763

    Love this I am a freak bike builder I am slowly swapping my bike over get er done power thanks for all the great tips❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @robwalker9119
    @robwalker9119 Před 4 lety +8

    Thanks Robert! I used the Grin spoke calculator and then followed your instructions step by step with the video playing on my workbench. The build was as easy as you made it look and it came out great! Thanks for making it fun too. You guys rock! Just one question, what is that red liquid in your “wine glass”? Cheers!

  • @duongly
    @duongly Před 4 lety

    Inspiring! I will build this ebike wheel... When I'll be retired!

  • @PatrickG4531
    @PatrickG4531 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the video. I hope it is half as easy as you make it look. Had a wheel with a bad motor, and another wheel severely bent after a crash. About to attempt to put good motor in straight rim with new spokes. Good times.

  • @keltheb
    @keltheb Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you, I am inspired!

  • @solarEbike
    @solarEbike Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for putting this together. I learned a ton.

    • @GrinTechnologies
      @GrinTechnologies  Před 5 lety +2

      Hey good to hear. There's a lot more nuance that we didn't go into regarding many specific hub motor wheelbuilding scenarios, but a large majority of hub motor builds are well addressed with this general technique. ie, single cross, all bends on outside of flange, and oiling (not loctiting) the nipples.

  • @socialnutrients3217
    @socialnutrients3217 Před 4 lety +4

    Amazing video I'm going to build my own wheel...

  • @deltafire5058
    @deltafire5058 Před 4 lety

    Excellent production value. Thank you for sharing.

  • @LesterWalters
    @LesterWalters Před 5 lety +3

    That's how my dad taught me to true wheels. 👍👍

  • @hardergamer
    @hardergamer Před 3 lety

    Thanks again. This was very helpful.

  • @VikashPatel-bh8so
    @VikashPatel-bh8so Před 2 lety

    Still the best video for threading spokes ..

  • @NarcissusBain-lk1lj
    @NarcissusBain-lk1lj Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you! I'm getting ready to lace up the hub motor on my bike and this video gives me hope. I tried the ”figure it out as I go" method once and needless to say, I no longer have that wheel. I'm gonna order spokes after dinner! 🎉

  • @tonymunn
    @tonymunn Před 4 lety

    Thank you. Excellent video.

  • @rajbond6267
    @rajbond6267 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for this video dude!

  • @gazzmann9569
    @gazzmann9569 Před 4 lety

    Thank you sir! Tomorrow I lace up.

  • @junezhang2128
    @junezhang2128 Před 2 lety

    Thank you, I learned so much from this video.

  • @gauravjoshi9183
    @gauravjoshi9183 Před 2 lety

    What a video.. Hands down.. Thank you so much

  • @williamvan909
    @williamvan909 Před 3 lety

    Out standing videos 👍👍 buddy good information to know if I need to do my own work great job thanks again for your help

  • @RobertFairweatherMusic

    Doing this today. Thank you for the solid tutelage.

  • @Oz1111
    @Oz1111 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic video. Love the blooper in the end

  • @dicktonyboy
    @dicktonyboy Před 4 lety

    A real pleasure to watch an expert at work (play?). Thank you.

  • @TomPlets
    @TomPlets Před 3 lety +1

    Lol that end has me laughing 😂 great video thanks so much for the clear instructions

  • @hubmotormadeintaiwan188

    So excellent ! Splendid !

  • @lalala13131315
    @lalala13131315 Před 4 lety +6

    I like the rant at the end lmao

  • @SheGotHelicopters
    @SheGotHelicopters Před 3 lety

    awesome content. and funny outro! thank you so much.

  • @polarunion
    @polarunion Před 5 lety +2

    So helpful. There is nothing out there to help us with broken wheels. It’s a massive hurdle to ebike ownership. Every time I take my bike out I have wheel anxiety. Break the wheel , you can’t even find a bike shop interested in repairing it. Thanks for doing this.

    • @GrinTechnologies
      @GrinTechnologies  Před 5 lety +4

      No problem and hopefully you'll be confident after watching to look after wheel truing yourself. The main reason for failures is when people allow their spokes to get loose, and then there is opportunity for fatigue weakening of the spokes at the bend. But we've also seen a few instances where people have overtightened their spokes and the nipples have pulled through or cracked the rim. Done right though, a hub motor wheelbuild can be trouble free for years and years.

    • @dav1dbone
      @dav1dbone Před rokem

      I had the same problem, I always used 12g spokes, makes a huge difference

  • @andrejsmazurs7774
    @andrejsmazurs7774 Před 3 lety

    Aleister Crowley lacing the motor like a beast!

  • @davidhodgson977
    @davidhodgson977 Před 4 lety

    Thank you now I can fix my cabbaged (sqaure) wheel.
    Grin bring out some realy usefull videos.

  • @jondotcom8706
    @jondotcom8706 Před 4 lety

    awesome vid! Cool momentum watch too :)

  • @mick9850
    @mick9850 Před 2 lety

    This video encouraged me to lace up a new rim after I buckled the cheapo junk rim that came in my ebike kit. I now have a matching set with a rim (DM18) that I have trusted for many years. Thanks for the video.

    • @GrinTechnologies
      @GrinTechnologies  Před 2 lety

      Right on and glad to hear it helped and gave you the confidence boost to give it a go! Most stock hub motor kits have pretty budget quality rims, spokes, and lacing jobs, which does a disservice to the whole movement.

  • @jcreedy20
    @jcreedy20 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this, I used some old bits I had laying around to lace a 250w geared motor to a 700c rim, using spokes mostly from a 26" wheel and some 700c spokes. I followed your pattern but I had more of a harsh angle on the spokes due to them being longer, but it did it and it works perfectly, managed to true it up quite close.

  • @brackcycle9056
    @brackcycle9056 Před 2 lety

    Excellent ... I found a chalk useful too , hold it on the forks & spin the wheel & it chalks on the wobbles & high spots.

  • @suenord1
    @suenord1 Před rokem

    Thank you! I have built a few e-bike wheels at home with proper tools, but am building a trike for my sister, and the wheel was not dished on arrival. Your video showed me several new tricks, and when I get back home I plan to correct some egg-shaped wheels I have been ignoring!

  • @RickMarshallMaps
    @RickMarshallMaps Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the great video

  • @felipecamargo7890
    @felipecamargo7890 Před 9 měsíci

    I use this bike for short trips from campground to beach,restaurant etc bike works great

  • @jungleb
    @jungleb Před 2 lety

    This is gold! Thanks!

  • @currenciacurrencia1860

    Informative and fun to watch. U Da Man.

  • @electriclifeevc8183
    @electriclifeevc8183 Před 4 lety

    🙏 does all our wheels for EastVanChopcycle 🏁💪 amazing attention to detail thanks for all your hard work!!

    • @GrinTechnologies
      @GrinTechnologies  Před 4 lety

      Your Electric Choppers are exemplary Eli. Thanks for your comment and we're working on your customer profile vid promptly. -Aaron

  • @truthseeker2248
    @truthseeker2248 Před 2 lety

    best video ever, thank you so much

  • @vexvesper
    @vexvesper Před 3 lety

    That ending deserves my sub

  • @mmiholjcic
    @mmiholjcic Před 2 lety

    Thanks a lot you saved my day. Excellent video