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00:00 Woods asks Kravchenko
00:29 There is a mole
00:44 Let's start with Hudson
01:00 Hudson reacts quickly
01:39 Pay attention to Hudson
01:57 Hudson lies
to Woods and Mason
03:21 The second person
04:08 The third person
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It’s not Hudson. He wasn’t willingly misleading Mason and Woods. He had to in order to protect David. The mole is whoever was able to get their hands on David in the first place to get him to Panama
If hudson wasnt the mole whats stopping him from planning a trap on menedez with help?
@@rachinvocat9587 Which trap?
@@rachinvocat9587 good chance menendez had the mole force hudson to do everything, maybe gun to his head type shit.
@@cannonballjenkins2757 yeah but i feel like theres too many plot holes still hopefully this games fixes them
@@djcooper1061 there is no trap im just saying if hudson wasnt the mole than why didnt he just go into any lead room and tell mason/woods that menedez had a trap set for them and make it backfire on menedez
it wasn't hudson, we will see the mole in BO6
Yeah, old Hud's had his family in Menendez hands, he had to do all that shit, but it hasn't him to the beginning
@@Sgt_Keegan_P.Russ2 someone sold hudson and david to menendez
@@Sgt_Keegan_P.Russ2i feel bad for hudson, he's way too overhated for no reason
@@enclave9614 yea man, my brother just simply can't stand him and always when see or heard bout old Huds, all the boy do is curse him like he was the true traitor
@@enclave9614facts some really think he a villian😢
I don't think McKnight was the mole I don't even think he knows of change of plans in capturing Noriega for a prisoner exchange
But where was he?
Your right the prison swap with Noriega was a CIA objective McKnight is a Navy Seal the CIA needed the help of the military on the invasion of Panama to just capture Noriega
Yep, during the start of Operation False Prophet, while McKnight discusses the true plan. Mason asks McKnight if Hudson didn't already tell him the objectives. However, McKnight says Hudson didn't.
@resterive Correct McKnight tells Mason he'll be providing cover from building 12, Mason replies 'Didn't Hudson Nix that plan?' As in cancel it (Nix being an american slang phrase which comes from the German 'Nichts' or 'Nothing') McKnight responds 'If he did, he didn't tell me' Hudson kept everyone out of the loop, I felt sorry for his kids but as far as Hudson goes he was a spook who crossed the line and got what he deserved
Yes, Hudson has always been shady but always for the greater good. After all, had he not broken Mason out of mind control in BO1, the world would have ended in WW3. He was also lying at the end of Suffer With Me to save David, implying that this Mole who we were looking for kidnapped Hudson.
Yeah greater good like.hiding the fact perseus had nuclear bombs am.I right? Such a lad right?
@@bubba418 Had the information gotten out there would have been massive panic across Europe. How would that help
@@bubba418Why would he want to create a massive panic? People could've died in the ensuing chaos if he did.
CIA people are indeed shady, even Mason also worked in CIA but he ain’t as shady as Hudson
Actually the whole games Mason was part of the CIA. In his files, he used to be a Marine Captain. But since the first mission, Op 40, he was a CIA Agent. Even in Vietnam, he was attached to MAC-V-SOG. These guys were a group of SF from the whole U.S military (Navy, Marines, Army, Airforce) and CIA. So Mason was a CIA Paramilitary Operations Officer since 1958. You never see him as a Marine the whole game. So on paper he's not even a "Military Soldier" at all since the CIA is not part of the military, hence PARAmilitary
If you think Hudson is the mole you haven't paid attention to the story at all.
the opposite actually, in black ops 2, he is the mole ever since the second mission of black ops 2
@@channel45853some people think its not him because he was doing it to protect david but i think it is
Just proving his point lol, it's not Hudson at all
Yeah Its Better To Wait BO6 So We Can Now The TRUTH LIES
@@channel45853no he isn't, that's what the plot wants you to think, but that's not the case
Never doubted Hudson. He was always looking out for the others, even if it was shady or behind the scenes. He had no choice but to follow Menendez’s orders or let David die.
When Hudson said "I have two kids they..."
Menendez taking Hudson's family as a hostage, forcing him to kidnap David and Misleading Mason and Woods
1. Hudson tried to stop Woods from interrogating Kravchenko because Woods was a lunatic with an insane amount of PTSD relating to Menendez.
2. Kravchenko had no reason to tell the truth, and Hudson had no reason to believe he was telling the truth.
3. Hes only standing there because you aren't supposed to see him once Mason gets knocked to the ground. Treyarch had no reason to animate something that players wouldn't see.
4. It would more than likely be Raul Menendez. If he wasn't in the body bag then non-corrupt PDF would've captured him. Josefina was also way closer to the grenade, and since theres a massive hole in his house, I doubt there would be a lot of her left to carry in a body bag.
5.Hudson didn't "Lie" to Woods and Mason that Menendez was dead. He 100% thought Menendez was dead at that point due to the massive hole in Menendez's compound.
The only people who would've known Menendez was still alive would-be Noriega or other affiants to Menendez.
6. Hudson was a mole who was only a mole during 1989, you would know if you paid attention to the cutscene during the final part of suffer with me. The suffer with me part is the only correct thing about this video.
I don't agree with number 3, there's no reason to not animate him, especially with the budget they had and the fact that black ops players were trained by playing the first game, to look for tiny details
if they didn't animate him getting taken down for your reasons, that shows laziness and a weird lack of care for a story that had a lot of it
@@channel45853 do you think literally everything in a game is animated? Its not. Animating Hudson would make 0 sense since the player isn’t supposed to look at him
@@MisterDragon_ That's one agreement and one disagreement with your third theory
Agreement : If you pay attention to one afghan soldier aiming at you when they disarm you , he's just standing and aiming at front of himself , also when you fall off on your knees , he's still aiming at front of himself and not animated to aim exactly at mason
But about disagreement : Treyarch won't make its story weird and incomprehensible for just not animating one important character in one important scene in its game , i agree 99% of people maybe don't pay attention to hudson , but about %1 people see hudson won't be disarmed in one moment with mason and woods , this will make doubt in story...
Also you said animating hudson to be disarmed won't make any sense , but either not animating him won't make any sense , there wouldn't any cost for them to just enable an animation for an character
The people replying are the type to think those videos of Floyd and Debra’s apartment in GTA V are real. Devs usually don’t animate what you can’t see.
@@RochRich. So how can you see hudson standing in knocking off scene?
it's probably Case the main character of BO6. I think we will play as the mole of CIA
That would be too predictable. It's probably gonna be a new character or someone that nobody would have suspected.
@@bydlakbolszewik847 Yeah, Treyarch already made us play as post-brainwashed bad guy, Bell. We found out too late. Plus, 3arc loves to create plot twists with their games.
World at War -- new mode made a debut, Zombies
Black Ops - Playable character talks!
Black Ops 2 - Multiple endings and future settings
Black Ops 3 - Mind-melting and confusing campaign story in distant future
Black Ops 4 - No campaign, DUH
Black Ops Cold War - Bell and Hudson redacting Greenlight op.
Definitely not "Case" in BO6 :3
@@MATRetroVideoGaming nah cold wars story was always so predictable i knew from the beginning it had something to do with bell
Probably is Mr.Black
@@roz3115Why would Black be in Menendez’s pocket?
So Kravchenko role as a villain is bigger than Dragovich and Steiner.
For black ops 2 yes, but for BO1 he seemed more of a 2nd man and body guard for Dragovich
Something to consider is that it doesn't make sense for Menendez to restrain and later kill Hudson if he had been supporting him as the mole up to that point. Menendez is cunning and patient enough not to let his anger compromise his strategy for revenge, and a CIA mole is a huge asset that he has no reason to kill off at that point since he wanted to play the long game to make them suffer (to break Woods physically by disabling him, and mentally by making him kill Mason then one day corrupting David). I also would have figured that Hudson, if he was the mole, would have known that Menendez never planned to kill David as he was part of the plan to make them suffer.
Unless the case is that Hudson refused to go along with punishing Mason and Woods (which doesn't make sense if he's been betraying them for years), or Menendez saw it as punishment for not stopping Woods from killing Josefina. If the latter is the case, there's no explanation as to why he didn't inform Menendez of the mission that kills Josefina prior to it occurring?
Idk, I think Hudson being the mole has too many things that don't line up. I definitely think we'll find out who the real mole is in the next game, but something's gonna happen that causes Hudson to forever be labeled as the traitor in history (implied by how much Woods still despises him)
2:18 zombies ahh walk
i have a feeling that Hudson isn't the mole, i think that someone close to Hudson is the actual mole, Hudson and this "friend" both know that "friend" is the mole, not only that but "friend" is higher ranked than Hudson in the CIA and he also has some dirt on Hudson.
Which means that Hudson is carrying all of the mole actions for this "friend", then after the mission in Panama where Hudson and Mason die, Adler gets wind of what happened and knows that they couldn't screw up that easily since they were very good at their jobs and since Adler gets the job done and can get any info at all costs, "friend" the higher CIA ranked person blames Adler for all the mole accusations and is forcing Adler into hiding.
if i were to look for who this "friend of Hudson" is, i think that "friend"=Black from BOCW, he is close enough to the President and could be very close to Hudson since they look like they've worked together for many years or at least a lot of time, which means he has access to every information that it exists.
it s all just a theory from the people that we already know, but it can also be someone that was never introduced to us before
McKnight just up and vanished from that mission. Kinda suspicious…
Maybe Kravchenko was vaguely implying to Hudson that he was blindly supporting and helping Raul Menendez but with more of a twisted sentence to keep Mason, Woods, and Hudson guessing at Menendezs game plan. Hell maybe the mole could be Russel Adler supporting Menendez for what reason he might find fit and suitable for himself.
Hudson has always been shifty and distant to both Woods and Mason, but I don't think he's the mole.
McKnight went dark on Mason and Woods before they got to Noriega and never contacted anyone. If Hudson isn't the mole, McKnight could have captured him for Menendez and that's why Menendez has Hudson during Suffer With Me.
Adler? I don't really trust at all, so either way, whether or not he's the mole, wouldn't surprise me. Not sure if there's any evidence of him being a mole, he's just very distant from everyone else, focused on his own things. But that could be a cover for him being the mole.
I'm not exactly sure who's the mole, but McKnight is who I'm guessing most likely is.
There’s actual basis in the cod mobile comics he actually did betray everyone been a while sense I saw that so I don’t know the exact context but let’s just say it’s on the same cliff or at the very least it’s supposed to be like the cliff alder shoots bell or something like that
I feel like they would’ve stretched out McKnights character more or at least gave Easter eggs/references to him being a mole or shady person. I think his job in that mission was to support mason and woods for their original goal in capturing Noriega and once they did that that’s when he vanished. It’s the same thing how there wasn’t any other navy seal to help mason and woods during the part of the mission when they were captured.
I don't think it was McKnight either, you could briefly see him on top of a building providing cover fire for you, that leaves the window for him helping Menendez very short if not impossible, he also didn't know about Hudson changing plans. He probably just got assigned elsewhere and had problems with comms like everybody else.
@@genghiskhan2056 Makes sense. Who knows, it might not be any of them and the real mole will be introduced in BO6.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
2:52 Hudson that "That's HIM, in the body bag". He did lie.
Who’s to say he wasn’t also tricked?
@@polybius8571no fr and at 2:36 he’s barely getting up from the explosion. They could had easily tricked Hudson
There’s no way you see a body bag and assume the person inside is still alive
Edit: Double negative removed
If hudson was the mole why would he willingly give his life for woods and david
Ngl I don’t think he’s the mole but I think the reason why he chose to die is when he said “woods. I..can’t I have 3 kids.. they-“ * shotgun cocked * “OK ME” seems morbid but maybe in Hudson’s mind since David stayed with his wife and kids the moles (notice it’s not mole cause Kravchenko said there’s tons of them not just one) who kidnapped him could have potentially killed his wife and kids since Raul told Hudson “BECAUSE YOU MUST SUFFER AS I HAVE SUFFERED” obv Raul couldn’t do much to woods since he ran away from home as a child so much of his early life he was alone with no friends or family so his “suffering” is watching those close to him die
I wonder why Adler canonically isn't in BO2. I hope BO6 explains that because Adler would definitely want Menendez to be dead for what he did.
Adler probably dies in BO6 since he's never mentioned in BO2 (and yes ik it's because he didn't exist yet)
@@nomad6169 bo6 takes place after bo2 lmao, hes alive during bo2
Just like Weaver and he was in black ops 1. Maybe they were assigned somewhere else
@@MidnightIXweaver now is in the New Zombies lore
Adler was not even a concept when BO2 released....
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What about that CIA agent that showed up with Hudson in Alaska to recruit mason to save woods?
That was Oliver North iirc. He couldn’t be the mole in the an organisation ensuring America’s dominance
That’s what I was saying cause he was the only other person who heard about David staying with Hudson’s wife and kids so it would make sense he would be the mole since he captured David and potentially held Jenny and his kids hostage if he didn’t cooperate
If it was McKnight, then why wouldn't Raul utilize the number sequences to get Mason to hid dirty work for him?
That shit went down with the Rusalka
@@british35there’s more than 1 station BO1 Hudson and weaver destroyed one in mount yamantau Cold War showed it with season five intro when Kitsune used an improved Dragovich numbers brainwashing broadcast on the soldiers at NATO Echelon station west Germany when Woods and Colton with a unit were sent there to help evacuate workers and secure the station from Perseus’ forces
@@stone3697 And tell me how someone in charge of a drug dealing cartel that’s on a CIA watchlist would get to West Berlin alive
@@british35 nah im adding on to what @channel45853 said there was more than 1 broadcast station and McKnight knows about Mason’s brainwashing so if McKnight was the mole he would have told that info to Menendez to use that in a sort of way. Also you said “That shit went down with the Rusalka ☝️🤓” you do know there was more than 1 broadcast station right? It literally tells you during BO1 when Hudson is trying to get mason up to speed on the situation and mentioning the map he discovered in yamantau showing sleeper agents across the states there could have been other broadcast stations but they couldn’t do anything since Dragovich died to mason so he couldn’t give any orders to the other stations so it wouldn’t be too far fetched to say there’s a broadcast station in Panama
@@british35 since Dragovich had some influence around the Caribbean and Latin America especially since irl wise during the 60s communism had a big influence on those countries since most of the people living there at the time were in poverty while the rich and powerful lived in luxury
It’s probably the new director that’s disavowed Woods, Adler and the other rogue operators
Hudson is too much of a Tinman to be a mole
Fr dude that’s what gets me mad when people say “he’s the mole ☝️🤓” like bro even Mason said “Hudson? * hm 😏* guys a fucking icecube that’s what I like about the bastard” literally said “bro too uptight to do shit on my momma he a bitch” 💀
Hudson also kept operation greenlight a secret from Adler, Woods, Mason, and Bell in cold war.
Maybe it was Mason and Menendez knew how to reprogram him from Kravchenk.
Menendez did get his hands on Mason after all when Woods shot him.
I have never heard this, but it is definitely interesting mate!
Theres more than one mole
That’s one angry wife.
ever since i replayed bo2 recently i noticed they mentioned a mole, which is exactly what they were talking about in bo6. i was told it referred to hudson but my money’s on adler. it’d be a perfect segue way
I guess Hudson just didn’t want to get beaten😂😂😂
I’ve always wondered who the mole was and I’m glad they’re finally exploring it with BO6. It really took them long enough.
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Thank you, sure!
They say it was hudson. But since it was unwillingly he wasnt really a mole maybe bo6 wil reveal the true mole in the cia
True , how did hudson get caught,even if menendez killed david ,hudsonn should have jumped in the chair and try to break the wooden chair like jackie chan did
Maybe just a random unknown CIA mole, so that treyarch make us keep questioning it LOL. maybe lets just wait the answer on BO6
Hudson wasn't a mole. His family and David were both in the hands of Menendes. He chose to be a husband and father first. I'm also pretty sure that he told Alex what was going on and Alex came along quietly to save his son. The reason he decided that he would sacrifice himself was because he knew that if he lived, himself and his family would be ruined and he would be revealed as the "mole" that chose his family over the CIA. With Woods being alive, he knew that things could be set right in the future
Excellent attention to details!
@@Anagh1701 As much as Woods and Hudson used to butt heads, there was gonna be some mutual respect
2:45 no, although your arguement says the sister is also a menendez, Hudson did say “him”, so he was actually lying
the panamanian army was also secretly working for menendez they mightve helped him escape and placed a fake body bag to trick them
Hudson was kidnapped so he was forced to be a mole against his own will. This means the mole kidnapped David and Hudson so it’s not Hudson
New character
If Mason wouldn’t have pushed woods up against the side of the wall when he was trying to kill Menendez, all of this wouldn’t have happened
They didn’t want him dead tho cause if they captured him they would’ve interrogated him and question him about what Kravchenko said to them about moles in the CIA so they can get rid of them honestly could have been prevented if Woods didn’t crash out
Maybe Noriega is the CIA informant who is the Mole
I don’t think the mole is McKnight or Hudson, we got so little of McKnight that it wouldn’t make sense for him, Hudson was protecting David so he technically ain’t a mole, I could maybe see Adler do a Shepherd and help both sides to make himself look like the hero, but I doubt it too
Well funny enough wasn’t Hudson Mason’s NEW handler meaning there was someone previously?
I can’t be the only one who’s never trusted Adler right?
I think it's McKnight from Black Ops 2 Personally
A hot take is that it could possibly be either Terence Brooks or Bruce Harris from Black ops 1. It would be incredibly interesting if it were Harris especially because he was in the pawn takes pawn teaser for Cold War.
Couldn’t be Harris he’s close friends with Mason and woods since he’s a friend of bowman and he didn’t get back into action he went into hiding after his “death” so he can’t be the CIA mole since the CIA still sees him as KIA from Hudson’s report so it wouldn’t make sense for him to come back to them
Someone we know but we don’t remember his name
Weaver is the mole in CIA.
Nahh that would be very interesting
Weaver was in jail at this time.
Weaver himself was loyal to Hudson. He wouldn’t
@@british35 also the mere fact that he lost a eye while being interrogated in the Soyuz rocket site also adds to his loyalty
@@justineallandevelos6491Plus he fucked off to South Africa with Mason and Hudson. He never ratted on them there
Hudson
In Cold War, Hudson was aware of the stolen nukes- but never told anyone.
tbf all the returning characters in Cold War is way different than the og Black Ops
@@jefferyharambe5067and CIA people always keep secrets from they’re own people. It doesn’t surprise me why Hudson never said anything about it
Hudson was keeping classified information classified. Of course he wouldn’t tell the CIA’s muscle anything he or his superior would deem unnecessary. He could’ve fought and fought after Mason and the boys confronted him, but instead he played it cool and explains everything.
W video
I feel like I’m the only one who trusts Adler more than Hudson
Better To Wait BO6 For This All So We Can Now Who Is The Real Mole
Maybe it maybe adler because after he was brainwashed by stich and got "de brainwashed" by hudson and the team something was off but BO6 will fill everything up
Psychological torture changes people
Hi I think it's a different person all together
What if hudson was threatened by mole in cia after save woods from Mendez in angloa - just my theory
I never realsied hudson doesnt get choken out after woods exacutes kravchenko i dont believe mc knight or hudson are the mole
I think it would be Adler since he killed bell for any loose ends between himself and bell. And in the last season when Adler and Stitch where facing each other, the screen turns black with the sound of a gunshot. But we still haven’t seen if Adler actually killed stitch or not.
You don’t build up a story like that and not have Stitch die. After all the stuff Stitch did to Alder, I’d call it character homicide to have Adler let Stitch live
Adler 100% killed stitch cause BO6 takes place after Cold War and some parts of BO2 it wouldn’t make sense for him to still be alive since he won’t be of any relevance for the new plot and Adler is seen alive so he’s not dead
@@stone3697 I’m just saying alright, but why make the screen go black at the end when Adler shoots when you can just cut to him firing the bullet?
You know I just realized something. Wouldn’t a frag not be able to blow up a structure to that degree? I get it killing Josefina (or whatever her name is), but blowing up that section makes no sense right?
Who was the mole ?
Definitely General Shepherd. He's -.
Sorry wrong game 😅🙏🏻🙈
I’m guessing Hudson
Maybe its mason? The russian fucked him up with the numbers. Maybe he did smt more to him to.
I hope we find out who the mole was in bo6
I don't think Hudson or Adler are the mole, and McKnight was barely even a dude in the story. So I'm going to sign two of them off. Adler is getting a lot of focus in the BO6 Trailers so they might lean toward him being the mole but then again, why? The little embers of the numbers making him really subservient to Menendez and other Anti-American sentiments?
First thought was adler but tbh I don't think he would let someone like Menendez get one over him without sacrificing something to gain an advantage over him.
Do a video about Weaver not in BO2 event.
I said in old video for you that McKnight is the mole and I think is Adler with him
ITS SHEPARD
Why is no one considering it could be someone related to Salazar?
Now that I think about it.... The mole must have made their way to david before they could help menendez use Hudson. This means the mole had to have easy acces to david. Maybe it was Jenny? Hudson mentioned her, likely as a babysitter, when he said she'll look after david. It's likely that she could have been the CIA mole. But that's just a theory!
Jenny is Hudson's wife
@@franciskalala3110Jenny wouldn’t
Nah it had to be a close friend of Hudson and Mason who knew about David Staying with Jenny Can’t be woods cause obv it can’t be Weaver he was in Jail not a lot of people mention him I don’t think it’s Harris (dude who “died” in BO1 during the mountain mission) cause CW Bowman’s son captures him and he tells his son that he’s a friend of his so it could also mean he’s a friend of Mason and Hudson
It has to be someone who’s a tech geek remember bo1 you can see the emails the guys send each other maybe one of them had to do with Mason and Hudson talk about Jenny watching David since she had “done it before” so maybe their msgs got skimmed and that’s how they found where he’s at
@@franciskalala3110 I had no clue lol. I guess you learn something new every day
It will be Russell Adler
He’d have killed Menendez himself to keep the info safe. Fat chance
in the nxt coming black ops it could be clear for me its adler is my suspect
Is this regarding black ops 6 campaign plot?
Tagline is hunted from within forced to go rouge Adler is not the mole im guessing by mid point we gonna catch adler and he's gonna do a exposition dump and drop the twist we all already know from start adler aint the mole
1000% Hudson in bo2 but including the new games it could also be McKnight or Adler
Can’t be Hudson he was only a “mole” against his will for that one mission in order to protect David
Anyone think Ryan Jackson from Black Ops Declassified could be a suspect as the CIA mole?
I doubt adler is the mole since hes gonna b main character of bo6 unless he only acts as a mole when brainwashing kicks in
Adler isn’t the main character it’s gonna be the “redcliff” or whatever the dudes name is
@@stone3697 o I really thought it was him bc the trailer
@@x0nix I mean I might be wrong they could pull a bo2 on their “past/future missions but instead they do a Adler/Redcliff missions but we will see when the game comes out
It's adler though , probably menendez brainwashed him and used him as a dog..
Can mason or woods be moles ?
I guess Adler is the Mole
10 days ago 😮
I don't think any of them are moles
Didnt menendez kill hudson
Hudson is innocent. hes a sketchy guy,, but not exactly willing to help on his own accord. Not Adler too, he wouldn't deal with Menendez, onky if he would be used as an asset.
it's 100% adler, im calling it
I don't he is. Plus he doesn't even do business with people like Menemdez, unless if he was an asset. Like Bell,
I always hated Hudson
I don't think it would be adler cuz 1 he wasn't a character till black ops cold war, 2 what reason would he have to be the mole and set hudson mason and woods, 3 we already saw in the trailer for black ops 6 Adler & woods were working together to find the mole. yes he did brainwash you to bring Perseus down but that was one thing. hudson always seemed fishy since black ops 2 and cold war so he could be the mole but he's already dead. so that leaves us with McKnight yes we only saw him and heard of the name in suffer with me but after you capture noreaga he goes dark no other orders from him plus the leader of your army would have you do more objectives then just cover fire across the roof to capture noreaga. now here me out noreaga was seen with menendez and also released him from the cuffs so capturing noreaga was all just a distraction for McKnight to capture david and noreaga having woods assassinate mason. plus you gotta think if menendez died from the gernade or the building collapse then woods hudson and mason would've died. look this is just a theory that i had so whatever cod wants they can but idk thats my theory
Hello 😁
What's up?
It was Russell adler
While Hudson IS very Shady and Mysterious (He's CIA, so that ain't a shocker, tbh) but being the mole doesn't line up with his Motives from B01-Cold War-Suffer with Me, he doesn't actually really do much that portrays him as a Mole, plus, just like a comment below, why would Menendez kill Hudson if he was an asset?, Menendez ain't dumb he uses every asset he can, Plus if he was a Mole, why not kill Woods and Mason on the Boat?, no one would know, no one would find them, like, Hudson had many chances to kill them, gut he didn't which is another reason why He isn't the Mole.
It can't be said that Hudson mean Raul's sister, as he uses pronouns specific to a male when describing the person in the body bag
So how come Hudson dies in the end?
It's not him
@enclave9614 where's the evidence to prove that? Is there files you gotta find?
@@OpticHamster69 i meant he's not the mole
Hudson took a bullet for his team. He was too deep in pages of CIA Information, him being around still would render him a liability, and we all know the CIA loathes loose ends. Woods, on the other hand, was just part of the CIA’s paramilitary. He couldn’t (and wouldn’t, as Raul Menendez himself would find out) tell him anything that mattered. Woods could get out and properly take care of David himself. Plus, Woods was an absolute unit anyway, a couple of lost kneecaps wouldn’t do much for a man that was left to rot in a container of his own group’s corpses and endured.
So... is Black Ops II part of the new COD lore? I knew Black Ops I was, but if Black Ops II is, the 2025 stuff is gonna get kinda hairy. How is all that supposed to work?
BO2 is still apart of the lore since BO6 trailer woods is in a wheel chair post “suffer with me” mission all the past missions of BO2 are canon so for now forget about the 2025 future missions they are canon but BO6 is more focused on before those events could be more of a explaining plot holes/ loose ends type stuff
Also here’s a timeline of The Black Ops Series in Chronological order (Campaign wise) {Cod WAW}- {BO1}- {Black ops Cold War} - {COD Declassified} (it’s a psvita game it’s when we first learn about Raul but we don’t actually face him just gathering intel on the potential threat he may face in the future I think we kill his father in this one?) - {BO2} (only the past missions don’t count the future missions for the sake of focusing on Mason and woods story not David’s) - {BO6} (idk what will happen but what we know for certain it takes place after the past missions of bo2 woods crippled by Raul, Mason dead? Or in hiding at this time leading up the 2025 lore) - {BO2} (This is where we begin with the Future missions with some flashbacks and Old man woods helping David Take down Menendez as he’s the current threat to the US and other countries) - {BO4} (obviously no campaign but with the specialists mode we learn from cutscenes of Savannah Mason she is creating Architectypes and she’s raising the dead also betrays her sister Jessica Green Mason idk overall confusing) - {BO3} (do I really need to explain BO3? Fine. basically the character we play as in the first mission died after a failed emergency surgery for the “super soldier program” the rest of the campaign is from the eyes of John Taylor of who also participated in the super soldier program along side our character and the “John Taylor” antagonist we see is actually supposed to be a man named “Dylan Stone” the whole real version of the plot of BO3 is in the comic book Treyarch sold but the one we play through is a simulation and the ending of BO3 is basically John Taylor destroying Corvus and preventing the infection to spread to the rest of the world.
@@stone3697 Aren't the new Modern Warfare games part of this timeline as well now? Thats kinda why I mentioned the 2025 stuff.
What if the mole was Harper from Black Ops 2?
I don't think so. Harper aged not much different than David during 2025 missions, so he was either kids or early teenager during Suffer With Me
Harper would've been 7 years old 😂
I think you mean Salazar but still wouldn’t make sense since he would be a kid like David at that time and also he’s not a CIA operative he’s a Navy Seal
I could see Adler getting back at the CIA for making him a wanted criminal after what happend in cold war hes a man not to be fucked with he spent time to rewire a human being with MK-ULTRA just to save amarica I think it would be fitting if he got fucked over by the government he loved and sought out revenge intentionally or unintentionally
Mk knight to me was just someone to help with the jobs we did in Bl2 kinda in our position
Hutson was the one I expected since I beat BO2 recently probably having his hands tied and wanting to protect section while he was a child and since back then its canon Mason and Hutson died he main goal was to save section
I personally hope they do a twist where everyone who was taking and covering the game was just fully lying like the tagline
[The truth lies] 4:22
I don’t think the mole is Hudson or McKnight
It's not adler
Definitely is Hudson
McKnight was only a dude in between the Hudson’s squad (the most badass CIA squad lol)
Adler was a manipulator,and he got brainwashed like Bell and Mason(I don’t remember well the CW Seasons)
ANNNNNNND,The game says that Hudson’s family was threatened by Menedez to trap his squad-mates but it can more earlier because:
he killed Krav when he says that have a mole inside CIA(who killed was woods btw)
He was acting strange in “Time and fate”(Nicaragua’s mission)
AND He CALLED Mason for the last operation (Suffer with Me mission)
It boggles my mind that some people still think that Hudson is the mole. If you play all the BO games and read the emails in BO1, you'll know that it makes no sense for him to be the mole. He was only captured by Menendez in Panama and did what he was told to save David's life.
1. Hudson was only a mole for Menendez from the Panama Invasion to his death in the furnace room. The mole of the CIA would capture David which would force Hudson to work with Menendez.
The following missions set in 1986 Hudson was NOT the mole, but rather a small team of people, it's entirely unknown who or how many people were apart of Menendez's cia team.
2. Kravenchko is either killed by Woods or Mason, no canon answer. Hudson only said he was bullshiting because Menendez was a gun dealer in Nicaragua and was almost completely out of the question.
3. How was he acting strange in Time and Fate? It would make 0 sense for him to capture Menendez if he was working with him, instead having Menendez leave his compound.
4. Hudson was the mole during 1989 but what are you trying to get at? for your last point?
@@bydlakbolszewik847 And WHO is?
Only mole on the game is Farid and Salazar,and they’re child on the 80s
I think that Kravchenko was referring someone on mostly out-field CIA Agent…
@@MisterDragon_ It’s not an “unknown CIA Group or Agent” it’s someone close enough to know better the team like Salazar (the mole one)
@@erineu4540 Salazar would be 8 during suffer with me
Please let it be Adler 🙏
Nonononononono
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I’m not sorry to say this, but the fact that this was never revealed in BO2 tells me that game’s story is not good. All these years later and this is still unanswered? A big piece to the game’s story line? Something tells me that’s poor story writing: this game’s campaign is not good
Good video and good theories, shame on Treyarch. I can’t help but feel this type of story telling and writing is what gave us BO3s campaign