Paradise, Ca 'Camp' fire FLYOVER
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- čas přidán 29. 11. 2018
- Get the big picture overview of the devastation and a better understanding of how this fire destroyed this town.
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++ The following locations are in need of clothing, towels and personal hygiene items, the Placer County Sheriff's Office said in a tweet Friday:
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Yuba-Sutter Fairgrounds in Yuba City: 530-674-1280
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I started following you during the Oroville Dam crisis. It is very refreshing to still see journalism is alive in the wee-corners of the internet unlike main stream sources. Thanks for your efforts!!! Great stuff.
Pine needles ignite easily. It still looks messed up that houses burn but trees don't.
@@finalminute3861 Do a bit of research
That does look really off, doesn’t it?
Healthy needle branches don’t burn easily.
They burn easily in my yard. Maybe you should try it Job.
Mike M the ones on the ground you mean?
Juan I would like to thank you for once again providing a concise and well put together debrief of this incident. As a former professional firefighter and private pilot this is a perfect platform to utilize for this overview.
The use of sold facts and the explanation of wildland fire behavior helps to relieve some of the ambiguity and misunderstanding that will follow a event like this.
Keep up the solid work.
Nathan would an EARLY WARNING SYSTEM such as an Civil Defense warning,,prepare the folks in paradise helped ? The first buildings were burning within one hour of the start of the fire, the winds were too high to get the planes in the air to fight the fire until houses were already burning.
Well said Tom. And thank you, Juan.
A few things. 1st this breaks my heart seeing all of this distruction. 2nd Juan thank you for the kind words of encourgement to my brothers and sisters in public safety. Disabled EMT here. I can tell you that you are right that they will be tring to think what could they done different and they will be mad also because in their hearts, the reason we do this job, Is to help and with BS top down stuff it ties their hands.
Nathan would an EARLY WARNING SYSTEM such as an Civil Defense warning,,prepare the folks in paradise helped ? There are some ‘little streams’ in the next town over from mine, but heavy rains sends out one loud bullhorn, so people can take action, it only took years, and much flooding, before that was installed .,,even the roadway typically floods 2 feet.
This really helped me understand how and why those people were trapped as they tried to evacuate.
the ones who were actually trying to escape were mainly trapped cause of the police not the fire
Do y’all know if people went up through sterling city and towards Butte meadows? Isn’t that a paved/graveled maintained road now? I don’t know? I’m not from there...
Thanks
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@@Chicosfinest420 the majority went down skyway when I went down skyway the right side was also on fire so I highly doubt it cause the canyon was on fire to
Eli Bledsaw
I was speaking of the topography and the limited ways to get in and out of Paradise.
The only ways out were south on the north bound lanes of skyway and north up skyway through doemill or all the way up skyway to butte meadows, most people didn't know Bout doe mill so skyway got jammed up and it turns into a 2 lane extremely curvy road that slowed people down even more
Thanks Juan.I have seen allot of fire-storms and never seen that many dry pine trees not burn in a fire. All the houses next to those pine trees... very strange!
They were green pine trees.
@@blancolirio - I understand the were green but as oily as pin is and late in the summer the bark is dry and considering the proximity to flames that turned homes and most of their contents to ash. It makes me wonder. Here in so. Cal. fires burn everything because of the dead brush and lack of a natural burn cycle. I know that different Areas and altitudes have different characteristics but Heat and flame travel up even in a blast furnace so I am baffled. Is that old growth or old replant that was never harvested or properly maintained? Thank you for your input and your objectiveness. I just wonder if everything is being considered. My prayers go out to all those effected by these disasters. Thanks again for your service reporting these fires and the dam. Lawrence.
calrenman you’re absolutely right about pine trees!!! I’ve used green pine branches to start my camp fire and find it the best kindling ever!!! X Boy Scout, fisherman, hunter, camper!!!
Ronald Cates yeah because you broke it off and it’s dead
My question is...if the wind was so bad that it moved at such a crazy fast pace that it burned the house not so much the trees, why were garbage cans all standing up right? Not one was blown over from the wind and the streets had no debris on them other than the burned cars. I saw that from all the videos and pictures that was shown. So I’m a bit confused...very windy, homes burned to the ground with nothing left, but trash cans still standing! Fire Concentrate on the homes. Doesn’t make any sense! I do enjoy your reporting! 👍👍👍👍
Selective Moisture or Selective Fire take your pick.
@@PinyonGear Or selective intelligence/ knowledge. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it didn't happen. It just means you are too lazy to educate yourself.
The wind was 15-20 mph here next county over. Not really a high wind. Just enough. This was a perfect storm scenario of weather conditions and ignition source. Garbage cans with closed lids are not a great ignition bed. Sparks bounce off. But houses with gable vents into attics filled with cellulose insulation, gutters full of pine needles, etc. are a great ignition bed.
windy conditions at the start - facebook.com/derek.yarrow.3/videos/2208918639386879/
Sideslip YOU SOUND SALTY...
As a member of a Colorado based incident mgmt team that works fires, this is the worst case scenario we talk about and even plan for. Your tour and description of the fire activity were very helpful. Godspeed to the assessment and recovery teams. Thanks for a superb job documenting what happened. The networks should take a lesson from you.
Thanks for update, God Bless you ,Blancolirio.
The networks should be embarrassed.
Juan, I just learned more in a few minutes than in days worth of reports on the fire by "professional" media. Thank you for your work!
So called professional media reports always focus on sensationalism and rarely on factual information that the people need. After all, the most significant and heartbreaking events are what people want and the media delivers. Reporters rarely know anything about the actual functions they encounter; they love speculative reporting.
I learned more about this fire in a few minutes than I have since it started.
No kidding and that's why I just don't watch the so called professionals anymore
You learned a false narrative they give to cover up the truth
My dad used to live in Paradise... I remember well that old sign, that said "You Are Ascending Into Paradise"...
It's a darned shame, there won't be so many people up there in the future, for a very long time.
Kudos to Juan Brown for his amazing coverage, without political agendas or finger-pointing...
Better views of what went on and the aftermath, than other media will ever provide.
Stay safe, guy!
I’m just say’n but it still seems weird the way the fire burned
Compared to what? Do you have experience working fires in this area? Looks pretty normal to me (some experience in this area), in fact in the central areas of town there is less destruction than the parts that abut the woods.
Houses are built with lots of fire retardant materials. Trees aren't fire retardant.
@@dogie1070 I don't know about Ponderosa pines, but some trees (Redwoods, Canary Island pines) do have naturally fire retardant properties of the bark. Also, as the pilot says, the ones that are "green" (growing, not dead/dried out) have some moisture, which also retards fire. If you look at the pictures of the island of Hawaii where the recent lava flows occurred, you can see that many trees survived being surround by lava (but may have died later due to chemicals in the air).
Marianna Tubman human bodies have a lot of moisture also and they burned to a crisp. Trees have sap... pines branches are great for starting camp fires.
Ponderosa pine needles are the best for starting a campfire - but that's not advisable now.
Thank you for taking me on a $175 tour. Better than any news cast production.
Yes, just images and facts, no hype. As news reporting should be.
Catastrophe seems almost an inadequate word for all that has happened.
Great seeing the flyover - sure shows the enormous scale - and the deceptive seeming survival of so many trees. Property loss is beyond belief.
More super reporting Juan, thank you.
First off Juan,thank you for your coverage of this devastating disaster.By flying over,people can see the scale in which this fire had grown in just a short time.Your interview with Dean ,gives perspective of the chaos and people literally scrabbling for safety in which no one,knew which direction was a safe haven!We are very fortunate to be able to return,to our place of home but with heavy heart's.That day will forever be stamped in our lives.There are so many lives,turned up side down and we morn for those families who lost their family,may God Bless you all.Yes,Magalia has suffered too but not on a scale like Paradise.As you passed over Pine Ridge School,all I could think about,was our 8 yr old son,being there that morning.As you flew SW along Skyway and pointed out PDHS,that is where our 15yr old son,was that morning.The event's that unfolded that day,has effected our ridge community as a hole.I want other's to understand that,when I speak,I'm referring to all of us who have been effected by the Camp Fire.Lives were lost,families separated,people running for there life in total darkness,home's,businesses burning to the ground.Our community will never be the same,some will never come back and those who do,will forever be changed.I'll leave you with this everyone.While my family and I have been blessed with our lives,we feel guilt for having a home to come back to.God Bless you all First Responders and many thanks go out to our surrounding communities for your support.There is so much to be thankful for.Stay safe Juan and God Bless your family.Kudos
The speed and destruction caused by the Camp Fire in Paradise is very similar to the 1991 Oakland Hills Firestorm. The Oakland Hills is a wildland-urban interface area with packed homes on hilly terrain plus plenty of fuel in and around properties. Also, narrow winding roads caused horrendous traffic jams and people to loose their lives while trying to evacuate. Lessons from almost three decades ago unfortunately were not learned.
They may have been able to get a handle on the Oakland fire.
There were tankers available, but they were not called until late in the fire.
Maybe the urban management was not used to using tankers.
My cousin was a P3 tanker pilot on that fire making drops on downtown Oakland.
An additional exacerbating factor in the Oakland Hills fire was that most of the trees were eucalyptus ( non native ) and are essentially kerosene bushes.
After the Oakland Hills fire a new industry was created to help keep the brush and undergrowth trimmed using goats and sheep. You can pay people to bring their herd onto your property and eat the weeds and bushes in places that would otherwise be difficult to impossible to weed-eat.
That wasn't the biggest problem. The main way the Oakland fire spread was via cedar-shake roofs -- even when treated with fire retardant, cedar is like storing gasoline on your roof. Once an ember lands on a cedar roof, the house is a goner. At the time cedar shake roofs were mandated by a lot of California Home Owners Associations, including those in Oakland. In one area the only surviving house was also the only one that had a tile roof, and at the time the HOA was suing the owner to force him to replace it with cedar. Funny how that lawsuit evaporated after the fire... Down in Santa Clarita a similar lawsuit was in progress, and it was likewise quietly dropped.
After this guy took that flight footage, he made that lengthy preface because he knew for certain what he was looking at, but still for whatever reason he didnt want to land on "that" band wagon.
You can see early on where the fire started in the forest but its predominantly burnt grass and dirt, but as soon as the fire reaches the houses it consumes nothing other than man made objects, like a dogs first taste of Blood, it seeks it out. Once the houses are consumed it went back to burning the grass and dirt, occasionally a tree, until it reaches another town... 7:50 Could it be more obvious? 9:30 ?
This is an AMAZING video. I dont know how anyone could honestly convince themselves that Fiberglass, Rubber, Plastics, Granite, Glass, Steel (which all go through some kind of fire safety regulations prior to being distributed to the public) are somehow all more flammable than the Trees and Vegetation that have been in a DROUGHT for several years now... Makes no sense...
The trees are alive, there is water, its not like it hasnt rained, last year Oroville almost had its dam break.... its been dry, but the really flamable materials are the dead branches and leaves that have been piling up for the past 20 years on the forest floor
@@fattyjaybird7505You mean the leaves and branches that literally fall off of every tree, everywhere on every continent ever since the beginning of the existence of trees? I hate being a pessimistic jerk, but seriously people need to start opening their eyes and stop lying to themselves. The repercussions of what I'm insinuating are devastating so I understand why people are hesitant but it's inevitable so the sooner the better...
@@hillsideheathen5267 yea...and you know what else has happened everywhere since the beginning of time? Wildfires! And you know what hasnt happened in all these places where fire sweeps through because it has all the fuel in the world to burn? Wildfires! Wildfires are supposed to happen, the last fire in the Paradise area happen 20 years ago... you know what happened to a couple guys who saw that fire and decided to clear cut around thier property and install a generator for his water pump? Thier homes didnt burn down... now im sure if what youre insinuating is what I think your insinuating wouldnt thier houses have been burned down as well? Or is that part of the coverup too that THEY so amazingly orchestrated so that people like you can figure it out, and let everyone know?
@@hillsideheathen5267 a common attribute of pinecones are to open up and germinate when exposed to fire... why would a tree evolve for that reaction?
@@fattyjaybird7505 Heat causes expansion, cold contracts... makes sense. Regarding my insinuation, your probably on the right path but this is new to people like me thus a theory is still in development however, I'm theorizing that large entities like cern for example with unlimited funding could possibly discover the inner workings of fire for lack of a better description, for instance fire creates a plasma around it that interacts with magnetics, perhaps a group discovered a way to manipulate that ability causing fire to be predominately attracted to metalics etc? Idk, but when I look at the behavior of these fires, it just doesn't sit right...
I was in the middle of this fire.We sprayed water for 6 hours, keeping the middle of the yard fire free. Then the outer bushes went up. Berry bushes 100 feet long went up for 10-15 seconds, gone no damage to anything. South side bushes gone 10 seconds. South side 200" tree crowned and was gone 10 seconds. We left after all roads to Skyway were empty with traffic. The house and property were standing 7+ hours into this fire. We had both sides of the street trees up in flames. Skyway down was impossible to see 10 feet, We made it down. The home we had is gone.
God Bless us all.
Keep in mind please, Paradise clean-up will take 12-18 month's, this is from the Mayor. Nothing can live on your Property.
I'm so sorry for all you are going through. I am so scared this will soon happen in my community of the Southern end of the Sierra foothills. I am an EX-BLM wildland firefighter and I simply cannot understand this excessive fire behavior. I am greatly disturbed by it. Please hang in there and I so much hope the best for you and your community... I hope my supportive words help you somehow...
@City17.76 We had the 100' clear zone in the yard. Small spots were burning, water kept them under control. We moved the RV to the middle of the yard, It's still there, untouched. Good thing, it was my room-mates sister's RV, no liability insurance. We did what we could, stay calm, spray water, locate cat's, gather up stuff, and run for our lives. P.T.S. is fire coming while sleeping.
GOD BLESS US ALL.
I’m so sorry you lost your home Mike. Wishing you, your family, your friends, and your community the absolute best as you recover and rebuild. From Atlanta - Paige
Knowing Paradise as I do after six decades and growing up there, I am absolutely amazed that more people didn't lose their lives! Hats off to all those first responders, in my opinion they performed a miracle! Family and friends have described the horrendous conditions of their escape, terrifying!
There's ALOT more than 85. Come on man! The missing with no relatives.
@@cathleenweston3541 You are quite correct, it is impossible to quantify the actual number since many were incinerated in their homes and cars etc.
I wish all the news media would report the way you do Juan. Very informative and the whole truth not just the truth that serves your purpose. One again a big thumbs up 👍
Excellent reporting, your explanation of how a wind driven ground fire travels was clear and factual, seeing the patterns from the air was eye opening
I hope other similarly sites communities watch this and get prepared. My home is in a similar location. People don't want trees cut but there needs to be places people can shelter in place when egress is blocked. We need better plans for evacuating the elderly and handicapped.
Words cannot express the feelings that disasters like this bring about. It seems so traumatic, it's hard to imagine how anyone could ever get over it. Thank you, Juan, for your thorough and compassionate reporting on this fire. It did get very close to your own home, so no doubt you empathize with the suffering of your neighbors, in a way no mere observer can. Your reporting is second to none, and I hope there are some awards headed your way, for your accurate and unbiased coverage.
It does seem odd that they don't build underground community shelters, where each town could shelter and house their populations during disasters. Considering how much money we spend on sports stadiums and the like, it would seem to be a good investment in our future. When not being used as a shelter, they could double as community centers, etc. Also, hopefully, they have passed building codes which would require new construction to be made with masonry, and metal or ceramic tile roofs, otherwise, rebuilding would be counter intuitive, and wasteful.
Once again, thanks for your hard work, Juan.
FYI: There are a couple of specialty construction companies that are running TV ads touting their "fire resistant" home and business construction using steel framing, standing seam metal roofs and aluminum siding. They even have landscape architects who can make nice looking, drought resistant and fire resistant landscaping. I would imagine they incorporate a lot of ice plant perimeters, koi fish or duck ponds and rock gardens, less grass and shrubbery than the typical subdivision.
I'm glad you found the time to document this disaster, in this unique manner. You are a credit to professional pilots for your involvement in public civil affairs and in your responsible, and honest, documentation efforts.
Almost seems that even the burning embers too was weaponized somehow..
So sad. Thank you Juan for showing us the devastation of such a wild fire, lessons will be learnt but sometimes not adhered to....my heart goes out to everyone who was effected .. peace be with you all 🙏🏼
Thank you Juan. As usual I'm able to turn to your channel for information w/o agenda. I'm very grateful that this flat-lander can find honest reporting through you. After seeing how close the fire came to the hospital my hat's off to your friend Nurse Dean Strait. There was such calm in his voice during your interview it belayed the urgency of his situation. I was a combat medic in the Navy, but never faced a horrific situation as that - Bravo Zulu to both of you. Thanks again for the report.
You have answered many questions that have been running through my mind.
Great coverage as usual Juan. Lots of moment where your heart feels like it drops down to your stomach - poor people, the lives lost, and losing their homes. I really hope everyone gets taken care of.
Excellent overview of the situation. So much better than most of the reporters I've seen. Thank you for your service!
I appreciate the series you have produced on this fire. My Mom's home was part of that last total burn in Magalia. You've provided the most balanced, indepth and rational analysis I've seen.
When smoke was first smelled at the hospital, there was no wind. Not long after, it got really windy. Where did the wind come from and why?
Here's the wind at the start of the fire - facebook.com/derek.yarrow.3/videos/2208918639386879/
Fire consumes oxygen, as the fire burns stronger more air is needed, the fire creates a vacuum and air rushes in to feed the fire.. this creates wind... Really strong fires create their own fire storm as was sadly witnessed in these fires. This is why the fires spread so fast as they are literally blowing themselves across the land..
The Caltrans employee that was with the PGandE employee on day one said the winds were blowing hard. He had trouble standing up
It was a very windy day here and I am about 90 miles directly south from Paradise..
Firestorm, the hot air from the fire and shape of terrain etc. moves air, a lot of air. And I believe the valley was windy, and in the canyon that day.
Thankyou sir for such a professional video flight & description as to how the fire moved & its speed generated by the high winds.
My brother & his family are one of many who unfortunately lost their home to this devistation. All 5 family members, plus w horses, 2 dogs, 4 cats & a pet rat made it to safety. Their home was on Likens lane, off of Foster.
I Lived there in Paradise for almost of 4 months, 2 yrs ago, while helping to take care of our dad during his terminal illness. Dad would stay with my brother & his family on 4-51D 6 month vacations to Paradise during the winter season to escape the harsh, bitter, cold, of the colorado winter season. This devistaion makes me so sad for the whole entire community there & also sad because it was my home for a short period of time! I fell in love with Paradise & the surrounding areas.
God bless you in the future, praying for everyone involved still, & please fly safe.
Thanks for the fly over images of Paradise and surrounding area destroyed by the fires. Your presentation / reporting made more sense the all the "news" channels combined.
In the 1960 - 1980's, I visited Paradise and my grandparents place on Quiet Lane many times and have fond memories of their forest home.
Later on other family and many friends moved to Paradise. Sadly -- only 2 of the ~10 families we know - now have their home after the fire.
I especially enjoyed your images of the Paradise Airport. My grandfather Vern West purchased the land and then flattened the ridge top using whatever money/time/talent/equipment he could scrap together to get the airport running. He installed the fence and the landing lights - digging the trenches, wiring the home made lights featuring glass canning jars. He later sold the property twice! when he retired. I know he would be amazed at what the Paradise Airport has become - also saddened by the terrible fire....
Thanks again for your reporting.
Keep up the good work.
Jay
Thanks, Juan. I'm one of the witnesses who saw the start of Colorado's Hayman fire, an arson fire by a firefighter (head nod hand up), and the winds that picked it up. My group were the first to report this fire and we was told after they arrived to leave camp. This was the largest fire in CO history. The residents, though much less densely populated than those in your Camp fire, were warned about the possibility of a devastating fire for more than a decade before and were told to mitigate the potential fuels around their structures. Most of those structures were saved. This was in our Denver water supply and our water had a smoky taste and smell a few years afterwards.
I'm guessing the "traffic calming" measure you're referring to is the reduction of lanes in both directions on a lower portion of Skyway. In the past, there were two lanes in both directions. The city council reduced the lanes to a single lane both directions. The traffic in Paradise at "rush hour" times was awful given the population of the town itself. I was perplexed at the decision before the fire. After the fire I'm furious.
My question would be what was directing this fire on a calm day with hardly no breeze. To 50- 60 mile about winds a hour later?...
People witnessing blue beams coming from the clouds..
Shame on the city council for taking out two lanes, did they help plan this?..
@@danielcarson220 it was a firestorm which means the fire was generating its own wind and at that point the fire was impossible to contain .
Do you think there will ever be any positive change, or just another layer of bureaucracy laid over the rest?
Just amazing the power of nature and fire... seeing the area affected and how fast you reported it spread... I’m just awe struck... prayers for the people of Paradise... thanks for another great report.... if a picture is worth a thousand words... your flyby and reporting is priceless....
Thanks for the overview and commentary, Juan. Such a huge disaster! The wind and consequent speed of the fire front really created much of the destruction, leaving first responders with little opportunity to even initiate planned protective measures. Many critical lessons to be learned. Very sad to see all those destroyed homes.
Thank you for showing us this perspective.
There is no way to fight a fire that moves that fast, and there never will be. Only preparedness will matter in such events. Fuel reduction, fire brakes, defensible space, fireproof building materials and better escape routes are the elements of prevention that fall to every person and community in these wildland - urban interfaces.
Bob Frazier
This is really really important for more people to understand and implement.
The conspiracy theories and ignorance are scary.
@@stellashepherd844 I'm already hearing about directed energy weapons. It's obvious they don't know anything about thermodynamics and physics either. They know nothing about directed energy weapons. It would take more power than all the power stations in the USA (most likely the world) running full output with the entire nation blackouted out to generate the wattage needed to create the BTUs required to do something like this and that wouldn't be enough. It's obvious these people have no education. Or maybe they have liberals arts education and think they know physics. I thought they were joking at one time but these people are starting to worry me.
Maybe pre installed metal fences along the fire break to catch the bigger sparks?
I'm suprised California hasn't come up with some creative ideas on how to battle this ongoing plauge. Of course they stopped controlled burning which would have at least showed this fire if not prevented it. Right now paradise is the safest place you can build as far as fires.
@@Patschenkino August 13th, 1910, "High winds returned, blowing burning embers into the town of Wallace, Idaho - the nearest fire was then 6 miles away." One was said to be nearly as large as a horse's hind quarter. Three million acres burned in 36 hours.
Indeed, thank you first responders for everything that you do! Prayers to all of those involved and affected by this disaster. Thank you Juan for sharing this for us all.
I appreciate you explaining before flying. I had many questions and you essentially answered them. Thank you.
You nearly made your turn over Magalia right over my place. I was lucky, upper Magalia/ Paradise Pines. My place and neighborhood were undamaged but definitely affected. Great video. Thank you.
New music was perfect! Thanks for the great coverage, Juan, you're the best!
Thank you Juan for your time at lunch. Keep up the GREAT WORK, this world needs more people like you. Be safe, and happy flying.
God Bless Us All.
Thanks Mike, great chatting with you. Keep posting the good links, keep us updated.
I had been waiting on this aerial view report and you pointed out everything that we all needed to know about the Camp fire. I had attempted to follow the situation on topographical maps but the aerial view really brought the whole thing into focus. Thanks so much for your accurate reporting as always.
We tend to fear the most that which we don't understand. Thank you Juan for passing along your knowledge. It really does make it easier to deal with.
Saddest plane ride I've ever been on.
I couldn't agree more.
Yes, i am very sad to see this devasation.
I think Flight 93 was a worse experience.
Confirmed
Yes it is
Thank you for conveying your opinion on the bureaucracy in an appropriate matter. I do agree with you. But I think your approach is one of the most constructive and mature things I have seen in awhile.
Thanks once again Juan for the report. You really fulfill our curiosity but can tell in your voice that it takes a toll on you as well. High honors for taking us along and prayers for those inflicted,,,,
Juan - As I have watched this from my perch east of the Mississippi, in a dense urban forest, chills run down my spine. It's terrifying to see the overwhelming scope of this disaster and not think about the property and people devastated - and lost - and how we might make our own communities safer. Thank you so much for the flyover.
Also: Crosswind landing? Nice job!
just a bit of a sideslip...
blancolirio nice job, regardless!
Thanks Juan.
Thank you for this video, really shows the devastation. So very sad for the homes but more so the lives lost as well as businesses.
Praying for everyone affected.
Thank you for your time to follow this sadness of lost of life and lost of homes and knowing a lot of people who lost everything and my prayers go out to all . Juan Thank God for the rain and all the support from people who have worked hard together.
Thanks Juan and again... the right words !
I can't say it any better than Mike Apple did: "Juan, I just learned more in a few minutes than in days worth of reports on the fire by "professional" media. Thank you for your work!"
Thank you for your spot on info about the urban interface and fire behavior. As a 34 year veteran of Cal Fire It is ingrained in us that its life safety first then property second.
As a former resident who lives out of state with lots of family still in Paradise I want to thank you for your in-depth reporting on this catastrophe. Between the Oroville Dam spillway of almost two years ago now and this horrific fire you provide information that no one else does. Bless you Juan!
Thank you this puts into perspective so many things, one thing that stood out was how few places of refuge were available for that number of people...in Australia we have designated safe refuges ie sporting fields or airport runway or supermarket carpark....we all should make a plan of where our closest refuge is, how long to drive, walk or run there, practise going there day & night because in places like these they are the only safe place to be....and as pointed out the difference between a house standing or burning was what is around it - keep trees, bushes, outbuildings, wood piles well away from the home, have sprinklers all the way around yr homes, roofs and verandahs, have green grass, gravel or rocks around the house as a buffer zone....have a plan stick it on yr fridge and be prepared to defend or go within 15 min max
foxx 66 Yeah. You guys are smart. I have a go bag. I hope that the powers that be here learn something.
That first overview of Grass Valley caught my eye, in the right conditions that'll all go too. The thick vegetation with houses tucked in is frightening.
I really thought about moving to Grass Valley. Seems like a great town. But after what happened to Paradise i'm pretty leery to trust any town that has thick vegetation.
The devastation is absolutely incredible. It is unbelievable the fury that mother nature can unleash when the conditions are right! In this case, the conditions were optimal which left the fire fighters at a distinct disadvantage. It was extremely difficult to view the devastation from the air. My sympathies go out to all of the residents whose lives were interrupted and may never be the same again as a result! Great presentation done by Juan in his video and commentary!
wow, great video. thank you for such a comprehensive perspective and understanding of this situation. I had no idea this is how ground fires behave. great flyin along with yah too.
This really is shocking to watch, the sheer scale of it is frightening. Hard to comprehend so many family homes being lost so quickly.
Bbster Scott's CZcams Channel uploaded some recent videos that document no wind or light breeze at his home, in the path of the Camp fire, when the fire started.
Nice propaganda piece
I was one hill over on the 8th maybe 2 miles away and the wind at my place was mild, only heavy gusts were in the treetops.
Can't understand how your equipment stayed so steadily focused to the ground while the plane moved around like that, but bravo for that. I can't imagine a better summary of the incident. My sympathies to the people affected by the fire.
Thanks for the bird's eye view. Helps to show the immensity of this terrible tragedy.
Hi Juan, Another great job. Everything you said was spot-on. Until we review our past conflagrations, and make the necessary changes, we will continue to experience these tragic fire events. With the growth of Cal Fire, and OES, the mobilization of resources HAS slowed down. As a first responder, with 30+ years, I speak from experience. But people need to realize, California handles these types of events better than anyone. Since the inception of Firescope, in the 70’s, everyone has followed our lead. It takes time, to move and support, a force of 5000 firefighters. Few can imagine the logistics required for such an operation.
All the stats on the structures, standing and destroyed, undoubtedly will/are being gathered and new building codes will most likely be made. The first responders were completely overwhelmed, showing again that during and after these catastrophic events we are on our own. Thanks Juan.
Yes now people can't afford to rebuild under new restrictions. Plus they're not exactly pass I g out building permits. Too many old hippies there. Used to be the spot for welfare in the 70's.
Thanks Juan....I knew it could be bad but this is just amazing how this fire burned. Hope those who live in similar situations take note. Fire burns worse the unprepared. And a brave smile and resolve to those lost so much in this fire. A lot of them had pulled into their final glide in life and their wings have come off.
Juan thank you. We all appreciate everything you do to get us the correct information on all these disasters. My heart goes out to those who lost loved one and everything they owned in this horrible fire. I dont think we could thank the First Responders, Cal fire, the Sheriffs Dept., all the Police Dept's. The Medical Staff and all the citizens who escaped and helped with such a horrible disaster. God Bless everyone. 😭🙏🙏
I think I am going to be sick. I live in Redding and only a few months ago we had the Carr Fire here and I wouldn't wish anything like that on my worst enemy. Too see the damage that fire did to that town makes our fire look so small. Its mind blowing to me in Redding we lost almost 2000 homes, that's a drop in the bucket compared to what Paradise lost. So sad I still pray every night for our towns to heal from these tragedies. Let's pray to God 2019 summer is more forgiving. But then you can't burn something that's already been burned.
The scope of the devastation is still mind-numbing. There should be plenty of take-aways for any homeowner or business in the wildland-urban interface -a series of recommended retrofits. Simple things, from removing combustibles and potential fuel from around a house, to replacing siding with hardi-board (concrete siding), non-combustible roofing materials, reconstruction of roof eaves and vents. For those with pools, one well-documented home owner in southern Ca had a pump and fire suppression system hooked up to his pool, which helped save his house. However, don't rely on utility-served power and/or water supplies - as this fire showed, power lines burned and were lost; and in a major fire, there probably isn't enough water pressure left in the system in the event of widespread use. Thanks for your coverage, Juan!
Also it seems likely that shutting off power will become mandatory in the event of high winds.
Thanks for your report, Juan. So sad to see the scope of the destruction. I can't imagine living through such an event. May God bless those affected by this horrible fire and help them to make sense of it. Thanks for your report and God bless you.
Beautiful terrain! So sad many ppl lost not only their homes, but also lives.
Thanks for sharing.
I bet they will not allow logging the dead trees. Thank you for this video update.
They're actually offering around $750 million for someone to remove them since its fuel for the next fire. Or did you think there was a market for half burned tree?
Yesterday we thought it was a great idea to go to the Chico mall and get an In and Out burger. Little did we know, the flash flood warning issued had effected hwy 99. Water was running off the eastern slope and completely flooding hwy 99 in both directions. Traffic was at a total standstill till the water ran off to the West. It took us a hour and a half to make a twenty minute drive....yikes.
Thank you for explaining everything so clearly! I'm so sad to see everything so destroyed! Prayers for everyone!
Thank you Juan! You get a lot of information into this video. Editing is key to your excellence. Great photos!
I live in the San Jacinto Mountains in So Cal. I have been through 3 fires. Most notable are the Esperanza and Silver fires. If it weren't for fire fighting air craft we would have been burned out completely both times. Ground force response was inadequate an noneffective. Too many managers and not enough workers. They spent their time chasing the fires and mopping up the aftermath. Many of the residents and property owners must take the blame for not maintaining their properties. That is a big problem up here. So hats off to those men and women flying those aircraft. They deserve respect for their bravery and dedication.
the traffic calming methods you mention on Skyway are real - the skyway used to be 2 lanes in each direction all through most of the town - the town changed that to make downtown safer for pedestrians - by widening the parking lane and changing it to a single lane in each direction with a turn lane in the middle that could be used in either direction in case of emergency
Thank you for the update. Your reporting of this tragic event has been truly excellent
As always you have the best video of the aftermath of this devastating event! Thanks for your diligently keeping us informed
Juan. Any chance you could interview a representative of a company that manufacturers personal fire shelters that would be placed on a home property and used to protect a family in case of a fire? So if you cannot evacuate or choose to stay home and try to protect your home from burning, when the fire gets too close, you crawl inside and allow the fire to burn and exit when it's clear.
Thanks Juan! Once again factual reporting. Bravo!
As ALWAYS Juan Brown, great job and information on your blancolirio channel. I started following you with the Oroville Dam.
Paradise has so much difficult work ahead of it, clearing off the damaged area, new construction, rebuilding all the infrastructure, logging off all the dead timber, added new roads for safety, and at the finish in years from now, a new covered bridge.
I was born & raised in Chico, Napa, Fort Bragg, Santa Rose, Ukiah & back in Chico. Then the Navy.
Thank you so much for this video. I live in Florida and for the life of me I could never figure out how come people could not get out of the way of these fires when they knew they are coming. Since we get out of the way when we know a hurricane is coming I just couldn't fathom why people were dying every yr in these fires. Thanks to you I now understand why people can't get out. God Bless all these people and their families. And you also for making this video and explaining it. I shared it on FB for others.
Thanks Juan. I come to your site for good data and the common sense attitude I hear.
Too often those charged with reporting are little more than advocates for their position, and ignore everything else. Mainstream media people could learn a lot from Mr. Brown. Juan studies his subjects, and reports what he finds. As a result, we get the facts and the whole story. Great reporting, and thanks for the good work you do.
Thanks Crabby!
Thanks Juan. I'm in NC but have friends in that area. Been following your channel since the Oroville dam crisis. Thanks!
First the Oroville Dam and now the Camp Fire.
Two years ago, our town in Oregon was in the path of a fast moving fire that doubled in size four days in a row, and we hoped the first responders would be able to protect the town, but they told us not to depend on them. Then, California started to burn, and we realized how foolish we were. Thanks, Juan, for the advice to be ready to evacuate at a moment's notice.
excellent coverage thank you
Juan, don't forget a big thanks goes to the Sierra Club
for their contribution to the fire.
Are you being sarcastic? I figured they were the leaders on banning controlled burns. But I'm only guessing.
Bryan, you are correct. sarcasm. we can blame
them for many fires in Calif. hopefully that will change.
Sierra Club = Lennie petting the bunny to death.
Mainly for getting logging and grazing banned. Forests evolved to be regularly burned, which clears out the excess underbrush and surplus saplings (a healthy forest is NOT thickly treed) without damaging the mature trees -- but Smokey the Bear halted that. Selective logging plus grazing is a good substitute for natural wildfire, and gives you more control over what areas are cleared out (natural fire being essentially random) -- but the Sierra Club and its kin halted that.
But you don't get to choose "none of the above" because then you get fuel buildup, WAY too many trees (so they're water-stressed and dying even if there is no drought), and sooner or later you get a massively destructive wildfire that kills everything in its path and may even sterilize the soil to the point that nothing can grow but weeds.
maybe so but they had the help of misguided public opinion, politicians, and courts
Excellent report once again Juan. Some harrowing scenes from the air. The hit and miss way in which this fire spread caught everyone unawares. Thanks for sharing. regards from the UK
Thanks Juan for this tour and update
More cool fly over so thank you again.
So I was driving home to reno from chico on 70 around 11pm the night before paradise burned and it was extremely smokey. It was over whelming by the time I reached Quincy. I woke up to the news paradise had burned to the ground.
Yeah at first I thought it was just fireplaces but it was crazy smokey all up 70 to Quincy.
We all know how credible the MSM is!
Juan,
Thank you and the Mighty Luscombe for that great first hand report! Without your reports the average person would never really understand the scope and context of this entire catastrophe . It is truely a saddening view but one that must be seen and reported.
God bless
Paul
Thanks for the update mr. Brown stay safe
Such devastation and what a horrible thing for those residents to go through. I ask myself what would I do if I lived there? Do you rebuild or not? It’s mind boggling. I send prayers to all 🙏 Juan, Thank you for your time and be well. ✌🏻
@darkjedi351 Indeed you are correct, depending on insurance and yes, it is very sad.
Right now it's the safest place in California as far as fires. The fuel is gone. (I don't know about the mud slide risks). This is the purpose of controlled burns. Problem is they have stopped which causes a large build up of fuel. It's almost too dangerous for controlled burns if they have waited too long in between them.
@@Bryan-Hensley Good input, also dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.
Truckee 13 13 well, if it has a mortgage, it most certainly has some insurance, maybe NOT all types.
This may be aircraft blasphemy, but maybe you should look into a reliable wing strut mount for the go pro. I know there would have to be some real precautions made, as I'm sure the FAA doesn't like the idea of go pros falling from the sky. Just a thought..... that you probably already had.
Thanks again for these videos. You sir are a true journalist.
Chris Beach I don’t think Juan meant it would fall free, I think he meant that it would not have been able to stabilize the camera against a strong wind without the gimbal drifting from its intended position (or if the gimbal was gyro stabilized, it would temporarily lose its intended target if the wind forces exceeded the servo motor’s working torque). If it was in danger of breaking free then I would imagine that Juan will have secured it with a lanyard so that it does not detach from the aircraft as one is not supposed to drop items from an aircraft.
@@ethanpoole3443 that wasn't my concern. My concern was that a camera would be completely external and unable to be re-secured once the flight began.
Anyone who uses an external mount on an aircraft has to make certain that it exceeds the specifications of any normal mount used near terra firma.
Then again Juan may just not want to put anything on his relatively rare and beautiful aircraft.
Thank you for videos like this. I started following you during Oroville crisis, but video like this is really something different. Thank you for possibility to see what firestorms like this can cause to landscape from the other side of globe.
I was at the last counsel meeting for Paradise here in Chico. There words on the time line of clean-up and returning to your property to rebuild was, "12-18 months. If your home is still standing and others close to yours are gone, they will tell you what you can do, stay or leave.