At last someone who gives clear information. A lot of our cousins across the sea seem to talk for ages without giving any real information. Thank you I enjoyed it and will be following you from now on.
OK. Right up front, I did not buy this product from Amazon but I do actually own one (I bought it @ 6 months ago at "Somewhere Else") czcams.com/users/postUgkxIzvvTi3_Qc8JnVdYYRJCvuoDC4QjTzeL . Pros:1. It can run a 2x12.2. It's accurate (or at least mine was) right out of the box.3. The blades are dual edge so you can turn them once after you found that one nail still in the board.4. It is a speed.5. THIS model comes with the infeed and outfeed tables (which are somewhat adjustable … another Pro).6. THIS model comes with an extra set of blades (so now you have 4 cutting edge swaps.7. THIS model costs the same amount as the model that does not come with the extras so save your money and buy this one. (no … I don't make any money from Dewalt).Cons:1. Although you can run wide stock, keep the rollers clean or the feed rollers will spin out and leave black marks on the wood due to the full length cutters.2. It BLOWS. This blows in a good way (which also makes this a Pro) but … it blows way too well. The built-in blower can and will clog a 2 1/4" shop vac hose really fast. I suggest using a pillow case taped around the 4" opening or buy a GOOD dust collector (1 1/2 HP or larger). I ended up buying a helical cutter head which eliminates snipe and also does not slow down the feed rollers with wide stock.
I just want to say if you watched the video and read my comment. BUILD ONE. It took me an afternoon to saw to size then laminate. Then the morning after to do the wedge, dowel and fine tuning. Quicker than Amazon could deliver one, not going to have any wood left I love using it so much
I have just made my first hand plane, inspired by your influence, and I thank you for your insight and wisdom. So much time has been saved and I may have never even tried to craft one had I not found these videos. Long time viewer/subscriber and thumbs-upper.
When I stated woodworking my choices in tools were dominated by what I read in American woodworking magazines. I was obsessed with tolerances that while useful in build the components for a rocket are absurd when it comes to woodworking. Over the years I have found that the old way is the good way and find myself constantly coming to videos like yours and Paul Sellars as well a the Japaneses woodworking videos. The simplicity of handwork and the uncanny speed with which it can be accomplished is astounding and suits my requirements quite well. Building my own hand planes is my next project and your videos will be my guide. I appreciate the nod you have given Hock irons (they were my choice) I'm not so pig headed as to cast aside all modern conveniences and believe a blend of the old and the new will yield exactly what I am looking for. I do appreciated your videos very much and look forward to future installments. God bless.
Great news! Ań update scheduled for this month! From the website "Hi Richard, The hand plane build is in the plans to be filmed this month. Due to the nature of changes to our work over the last year the creation of free resources such as this had to move to a lower priority.".
Great video! I also read that the grain should be oriented so that when you push the plane, the grain in the wood of the plain should be oriented with the grain.
I just came across your channel. I LOVE your work. Would love to see more. Great job on this build. I have signed up on your web site to view the whole video. Thanks
I always enjoy the videos you make. I've made a couple laminated planes and I was kind of hoping you'd walk through some of the finer points of making a non-laminated one. I've had limited success myself making jigs to rest my chisels on while I chop and a few other tricks. When you make your solid body planes do you use a float? Anyways, I've never made a laminated plane without a bandsaw so I look forward to seeing what you do. Thanks for the videos!
+raynadustin Many thanks, I have picked up some pretty nifty little tips from plane making pros for the chop out, and I don't use floats. At some time after the main build video I will come back to this and cover the none laminated version further. Cheers
Richard, hi... is this build still happening? I noticed you announced a workbench build and I wonder if there's a logic behind the delay of this build - build a bench first and then use it to build bench planes... but wouldn't one need bench planes to build a bench?! :)
I'm looking at the wood you have chosen for these. Isn't it important to use quarter sawn stock, particularly on the longer planes? One has a huge ugly knot right in the worst possible place. That will self destruct, I'm going to predict. You need to be just a little more choosy.
I've been looking forward to this since your announcement earlier this summer. One question though: What is the benefit of ripping out of a single blank versus the 3 piece blank? Pretty? Stability? Thoughts?
Are you aware of any videos that show a smoothing plane in an actual productions setting? There are numerous videos about many types of planes from how to refurbish then to how to make them for example via the Krenov approach. Most of these videos show working on planes from start to finish with the "finish" showing the planes creating wispy shavings basically on wood ideal to demonstrate ideal performance but not in actual application. I can find nothing that shows planes in actual practice. I am specifically interested in observing how a smoothing plane is used and what the shavings and finish look like. I just built a Krenov-style smoothing plane and can get paper thin shavings but have no idea of what using this plane would look like. I can't envision building a cabinet a producing long uniform shavings like typical idealized presentations. Could you please comment on this question? Thanks.
Hi Richard, do you have any tips for making threads on a wooden dowel i tried doing it and the fibres kept breaking off leaving no threads, i also tried soaking the dowel in oil for a few hours but it didn't work. thanks david
Missed you on the tube for quite a while I figured you were busy earning a living. Great stuff.One quick question why are the comments disabled on your latest videos ?
it's quite possible that a lot of people already mentioned this to you, but I always thought that the growth ring of the body should be about parallel to the bottom of the plane... is that something you've thought about?
+Bernd DeBroot Hi Bernd, I will be going in to the grain orientation a little in the build video, but the quick answer here is yes. Professional plane makers will be extremely selective about the timbers that they use, and the pieces I've had to hand have been variable in quality in this regard. Ultimately for my purposes I'm not overly concerned but like I say I will cover this more in the video. Cheers
So to see this build you have to purchase it on your site? Or will it be available on youtube? Serious question. I am interested just not sure when I will be.
+Adamast Many thanks for that, sounds like two great sources. It would be nice if we could get a little list of sources put together, so I'll have a further look in to it. Cheers
+Adamast Thanks Adamast, you're a champ. When we do the drawn up plans we'll try to add a link list to as many of the modern manufacturers of the irons as we can. This has been really helpful.
For those looking to buy an English made iron, Ray Iles irons are top notch and also available from Workshop Heaven. There slightly more expensive than the Quangsheng irons (+25% - I've bought them anyway to support British Industry) and you will need to buy a Quangsheng cap iron (or Clifton two piece if you want to buy entirely British). Richard, top notch videos! I think your knowledge, working and hosting/tutoring style are all first class, keep it all up.
You can float over to my channel and watch a long (and boring, but full coverage of the entire build) jack plane build, but without lamination. I don't sell anything and I don't have any ads on my videos (and never will do either of those), so there's no trick - seriously, not trying to build a channel or viewership, just showing how to make a traditional non-laminated plane with a double iron. It's under "making a double iron jack plane - finished plane" if you search to see the plane and see if you'd want to build it. My delivery is certainly a lot more monotone than Richard's, though. He's got a gift of conveying enthusiasm that I don't have.
What types of wood(s) do you recommend? I've seen planes where the central core was one, the two sides were another and then the sole a 3rd type. I guess the sole is what needs to be the hardest. Just curious as to what you use. American Beech is often used here in the states and I've seen people use purple heart for the sole. It won't let me post the link but anyone interested can google "Hardwood Hardness Chart" Looking forward to the build video(s) Scott
+russell lowe No shame thanks Russell, I've been delighted with the iron and chose to use and recommend it on my own experience. I haven't been paid or even spoken to Hock tools about this so there's nothing to be ashamed about really. If there's anything then I do always feel slightly uncomfortable if I mention something that will cost people money - I even talk people out of buying my own workbenches :)
guess who's just got hock irons for free.ehhum videos to come on a hock iron.y else.No need for an over priced over marketed iron that will wear ur lovely diamond plates down quicker and keep you away from working wood longer. the price of 1 hock iron and chipbreaker u could make 4sets of irons and cap irons out of 4mm 02 steel.even less if u know u don't need a thick iron.it's like festool all over.marketing magic
+russell lowe Hi Russell, I'm not quite sure where you're coming from, I use Lie Nielsen, Veritas, Philly Planes and many other branded tools along with old tools in most of my videos and the Hock iron is no different. I realise that people have different desires and budgets with their woodworking and if anything I like to show the variety to demonstrate that they all work well i.e you can enjoy woodworking whatever your budget. As I've said in my other comment to you I have not be paid for this mention, and haven't even spoke to Hock Tools or any other supplier about this. I purchased my iron at full price from Classic Hand Tools (not been paid by them either BTW). I can see that you have an issue with the price of Hock irons and that's perfectly understandable, but I do feel that I made it clear that this is by no means essential. After building several wooden planes with a variety of different irons I decided to treat myself. I'm not sure what Festool marketing magic is but I don't have it I'm afraid.
+russell lowe you don't seem to have thought this through very well: _"... and keep you away from working wood longer."_ an extra minute, maybe, depending on how you sharpen. _"... u could make 4sets of irons and cap irons out of 4mm 02 steel."_ several hours, plus the time and expense of cobbling together heat treatment gear I might choose the latter for the experience and fun, but the former is much faster. if all you're really worried about is money, then why bother mentioning time? _"... if u know u don't need a thick iron."_ just because you can get away without a thick iron in a lot of cases and still do good work doesn't mean it's preferable.
Are you aware of any videos that show a smoothing plane in an actual productions setting? There are numerous videos about many types of planes from how to refurbish then to how to make them for example via the Krenov approach. Most of these videos show working on planes from start to finish with the "finish" showing the planes creating wispy shavings basically on wood ideal to demonstrate ideal performance but not in actual application. I can find nothing that shows planes in actual practice. I am specifically interested in observing how a smoothing plane is used and what the shavings and finish look like. I just built a Krenov-style smoothing plane and can get paper thin shavings but have no idea of what using this plane would look like. I can't envision building a cabinet a producing long uniform shavings like typical idealized presentations. Could you please comment on this question? Thanks.
At last someone who gives clear information. A lot of our cousins across the sea seem to talk for ages without giving any real information. Thank you I enjoyed it and will be following you from now on.
OK. Right up front, I did not buy this product from Amazon but I do actually own one (I bought it @ 6 months ago at "Somewhere Else") czcams.com/users/postUgkxIzvvTi3_Qc8JnVdYYRJCvuoDC4QjTzeL . Pros:1. It can run a 2x12.2. It's accurate (or at least mine was) right out of the box.3. The blades are dual edge so you can turn them once after you found that one nail still in the board.4. It is a speed.5. THIS model comes with the infeed and outfeed tables (which are somewhat adjustable … another Pro).6. THIS model comes with an extra set of blades (so now you have 4 cutting edge swaps.7. THIS model costs the same amount as the model that does not come with the extras so save your money and buy this one. (no … I don't make any money from Dewalt).Cons:1. Although you can run wide stock, keep the rollers clean or the feed rollers will spin out and leave black marks on the wood due to the full length cutters.2. It BLOWS. This blows in a good way (which also makes this a Pro) but … it blows way too well. The built-in blower can and will clog a 2 1/4" shop vac hose really fast. I suggest using a pillow case taped around the 4" opening or buy a GOOD dust collector (1 1/2 HP or larger). I ended up buying a helical cutter head which eliminates snipe and also does not slow down the feed rollers with wide stock.
I just want to say if you watched the video and read my comment. BUILD ONE.
It took me an afternoon to saw to size then laminate. Then the morning after to do the wedge, dowel and fine tuning.
Quicker than Amazon could deliver one, not going to have any wood left I love using it so much
I'm going to build a jointer plane with this method lol
I have just made my first hand plane, inspired by your influence, and I thank you for your insight and wisdom. So much time has been saved and I may have never even tried to craft one had I not found these videos. Long time viewer/subscriber and thumbs-upper.
When I stated woodworking my choices in tools were dominated by what I read in American woodworking magazines. I was obsessed with tolerances that while useful in build the components for a rocket are absurd when it comes to woodworking. Over the years I have found that the old way is the good way and find myself constantly coming to videos like yours and Paul Sellars as well a the Japaneses woodworking videos. The simplicity of handwork and the uncanny speed with which it can be accomplished is astounding and suits my requirements quite well. Building my own hand planes is my next project and your videos will be my guide. I appreciate the nod you have given Hock irons (they were my choice) I'm not so pig headed as to cast aside all modern conveniences and believe a blend of the old and the new will yield exactly what I am looking for. I do appreciated your videos very much and look forward to future installments. God bless.
Like your waistcoat & shirt garb, so practical for handwork in a chilly outhouse!
Nice! I hope i find the time to build along. I need a jack, have restored a smoother and a jointer.
+Willem Kossen Cheers Willem, it's certainly worth the time, just the handle takes longer than the plane to build!
I really enjoyed your videos. It's too bad you stop making videos. Hopefully one day you will come back.
I am really looking forward to the plane build.
Very informative video in the process of making myself a wooden plane and you've answered a few issues I was concerned about 👍
Just what I need,,another project, Ha, I'll be tagging along and getting my materials ready. Cheers !
looking forward to all forthcoming videos... very inspiring
I appreciate your enthusiasm. Thanks for the Pros and cons of each method. Gonna try a krenov style first.
Looking forward to build along!
Very interested in both of f these build videos/series!
I love the background of your shop....looks like a pizzeria!
Great news! Ań update scheduled for this month! From the website "Hi Richard,
The hand plane build is in the plans to be filmed this month. Due to the nature of changes to our work over the last year the creation of free resources such as this had to move to a lower priority.".
Great video! I also read that the grain should be oriented so that when you push the plane, the grain in the wood of the plain should be oriented with the grain.
+Chuck Fun Thanks Chuck, out of all the orientation stuff that you read, that one is the one I'd definitely follow. Cheers
Would really love vids on the actual build!
i know it's quite randomly asking but does anybody know of a good website to stream newly released tv shows online ?
@Aron James flixportal :D
@Sylas Aaron thank you, signed up and it seems like a nice service =) I really appreciate it !
@Aron James no problem :D
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I just came across your channel. I LOVE your work. Would love to see more. Great job on this build. I have signed up on your web site to view the whole video. Thanks
I have to remake the body of 4 planes.
Hello friend your video is great thanks for sharing this project greetings
I always enjoy the videos you make. I've made a couple laminated planes and I was kind of hoping you'd walk through some of the finer points of making a non-laminated one. I've had limited success myself making jigs to rest my chisels on while I chop and a few other tricks. When you make your solid body planes do you use a float?
Anyways, I've never made a laminated plane without a bandsaw so I look forward to seeing what you do.
Thanks for the videos!
+raynadustin Many thanks, I have picked up some pretty nifty little tips from plane making pros for the chop out, and I don't use floats. At some time after the main build video I will come back to this and cover the none laminated version further. Cheers
+The English Woodworker
I'll be looking forward to that
Stanely sells their irons on amazon btw :D
♥
Richard, hi... is this build still happening? I noticed you announced a workbench build and I wonder if there's a logic behind the delay of this build - build a bench first and then use it to build bench planes... but wouldn't one need bench planes to build a bench?! :)
C'mon English, lets get to making the plane already! :p
Hi Richard - where is the entire plane build series? cheers!
I'm looking at the wood you have chosen for these. Isn't it important to use quarter sawn stock, particularly on the longer planes? One has a huge ugly knot right in the worst possible place. That will self destruct, I'm going to predict. You need to be just a little more choosy.
You can get a new stanley iron for an affordable price too
Hi Richard, any update on this series yet? it's over 2 years now. I'll have to continue it on my own site if you don't:-)
I've been looking forward to this since your announcement earlier this summer. One question though: What is the benefit of ripping out of a single blank versus the 3 piece blank? Pretty? Stability? Thoughts?
Hoping this project is still active.
Can you tell me what the best plane would be to take off about 1" of wood from a circular live slab please?
Are you aware of any videos that show a smoothing plane in an actual
productions setting? There are numerous videos about many types of
planes from how to refurbish then to how to make them for example via
the Krenov approach. Most of these videos show working on planes from
start to finish with the "finish" showing the planes creating wispy
shavings basically on wood ideal to demonstrate ideal performance but
not in actual application. I can find nothing that shows planes in
actual practice. I am specifically interested in observing how a
smoothing plane is used and what the shavings and finish look like. I
just built a Krenov-style smoothing plane and can get paper thin
shavings but have no idea of what using this plane would look like. I
can't envision building a cabinet a producing long uniform shavings like
typical idealized presentations. Could you please comment on this
question? Thanks.
Is this coming soon Richard?
Love the videos, thanks for posting this!
Hi Richard, do you have any tips for making threads on a wooden dowel i tried doing it and the fibres kept breaking off leaving no threads, i also tried soaking the dowel in oil for a few hours but it didn't work. thanks david
Missed you on the tube for quite a while I figured you were busy earning a living. Great stuff.One quick question why are the comments disabled on your latest videos ?
Was the video for this placed in one of the premium videos
it's quite possible that a lot of people already mentioned this to you, but I always thought that the growth ring of the body should be about parallel to the bottom of the plane... is that something you've thought about?
+Bernd DeBroot Hi Bernd, I will be going in to the grain orientation a little in the build video, but the quick answer here is yes. Professional plane makers will be extremely selective about the timbers that they use, and the pieces I've had to hand have been variable in quality in this regard. Ultimately for my purposes I'm not overly concerned but like I say I will cover this more in the video. Cheers
So to see this build you have to purchase it on your site? Or will it be available on youtube? Serious question. I am interested just not sure when I will be.
I really like it! I subscribed.
It's a chip braker not a cap iron. Cap iron is a part that presses the blade and the chip braker to the frog on a Bailey pattern plane.
places like hock tools sells irons
Do you have to use hardwood?
Very cool, what angle is the bed on the jointer plane?
can you show both methods? more detail on the laminated method than another single video showing how to chisle it out?
what is the angle of the blade in reference to the bottom of the plane? thanks!
ECE or Two Cherries blades for wooden planes make half the price of a Ron Hock blade. Maybe that's also an option.
+Adamast Many thanks for that, sounds like two great sources. It would be nice if we could get a little list of sources put together, so I'll have a further look in to it. Cheers
I looked at Dieter Schmid's Fine Tools: I see also Veritas PM-V11 irons, their own brand of irons and maybe cheap Juuma cap irons
+Adamast Thanks Adamast, you're a champ. When we do the drawn up plans we'll try to add a link list to as many of the modern manufacturers of the irons as we can. This has been really helpful.
The Quangsheng irons from Workshop Heaven are definitely worth a look too. £20 for the iron, £14.50 for the cap iron. Both 3mm T10 steel at RC60-63.
For those looking to buy an English made iron, Ray Iles irons are top notch and also available from Workshop Heaven. There slightly more expensive than the Quangsheng irons (+25% - I've bought them anyway to support British Industry) and you will need to buy a Quangsheng cap iron (or Clifton two piece if you want to buy entirely British). Richard, top notch videos! I think your knowledge, working and hosting/tutoring style are all first class, keep it all up.
Two years on; still waiting.
Are you alive? is this still going to happen?
It's March 2017 and I'm curious about this as well. I would love to see the actual build videos.
You can float over to my channel and watch a long (and boring, but full coverage of the entire build) jack plane build, but without lamination. I don't sell anything and I don't have any ads on my videos (and never will do either of those), so there's no trick - seriously, not trying to build a channel or viewership, just showing how to make a traditional non-laminated plane with a double iron.
It's under "making a double iron jack plane - finished plane" if you search to see the plane and see if you'd want to build it.
My delivery is certainly a lot more monotone than Richard's, though. He's got a gift of conveying enthusiasm that I don't have.
David W thanks David
@@daw162 Hi David, what's your web address? I'd love to watch your build.
2017 where are the rest of the vids?
What types of wood(s) do you recommend? I've seen planes where the central core was one, the two sides were another and then the sole a 3rd type. I guess the sole is what needs to be the hardest. Just curious as to what you use. American Beech is often used here in the states and I've seen people use purple heart for the sole. It won't let me post the link but anyone interested can google "Hardwood Hardness Chart" Looking forward to the build video(s) Scott
Couldn't you just flatten the rough-chopped part with a rasp or file?
It’s difficult to watch this video and not think of SNL’s Tales of Ribaldry.
You should be wearing a colonial tri-point hat
so i'm prepared....
u can see a bit of shame in his delivery of the plug of the hock iron.poor fellow lol
+russell lowe No shame thanks Russell, I've been delighted with the iron and chose to use and recommend it on my own experience. I haven't been paid or even spoken to Hock tools about this so there's nothing to be ashamed about really. If there's anything then I do always feel slightly uncomfortable if I mention something that will cost people money - I even talk people out of buying my own workbenches :)
Just do it yourself, go to woodprix page and learn how .
Not seen anything for a while now, presuming that there are no more videos on the way. Shame.
PING.... make the videos....
£61 for 2 3/8 hock blade a breaker v £40 for 4 sets of blades and breakers of 02 steel no brainer really
+russell lowe Like I said in the video there are many option for every budget. BTW the iron I'll be using is 2" wide, not the 2 3/8 version.
+russell lowe And we didn't talk yet about the 60£ 2" _laminated blue paper steel_ (HRC 68) blade without a breaker from Axminster I had in mind.
LOL.. so obviously, this never happened. CZcams vaporware... is that a thing now?
You gotta go on the website. He has an hour long video there on making it.
I think he died falling out of a, plane. ;-)
guess who's just got hock irons for free.ehhum videos to come on a hock iron.y else.No need for an over priced over marketed iron that will wear ur lovely diamond plates down quicker and keep you away from working wood longer. the price of 1 hock iron and chipbreaker u could make 4sets of irons and cap irons out of 4mm 02 steel.even less if u know u don't need a thick iron.it's like festool all over.marketing magic
+russell lowe Hi Russell, I'm not quite sure where you're coming from, I use Lie Nielsen, Veritas, Philly Planes and many other branded tools along with old tools in most of my videos and the Hock iron is no different. I realise that people have different desires and budgets with their woodworking and if anything I like to show the variety to demonstrate that they all work well i.e you can enjoy woodworking whatever your budget.
As I've said in my other comment to you I have not be paid for this mention, and haven't even spoke to Hock Tools or any other supplier about this. I purchased my iron at full price from Classic Hand Tools (not been paid by them either BTW).
I can see that you have an issue with the price of Hock irons and that's perfectly understandable, but I do feel that I made it clear that this is by no means essential. After building several wooden planes with a variety of different irons I decided to treat myself. I'm not sure what Festool marketing magic is but I don't have it I'm afraid.
+russell lowe
you don't seem to have thought this through very well:
_"... and keep you away from working wood longer."_
an extra minute, maybe, depending on how you sharpen.
_"... u could make 4sets of irons and cap irons out of 4mm 02 steel."_
several hours, plus the time and expense of cobbling together heat treatment gear
I might choose the latter for the experience and fun, but the former is much faster. if all you're really worried about is money, then why bother mentioning time?
_"... if u know u don't need a thick iron."_
just because you can get away without a thick iron in a lot of cases and still do good work doesn't mean it's preferable.
Are you aware of any videos that show a smoothing plane in an actual
productions setting? There are numerous videos about many types of
planes from how to refurbish then to how to make them for example via
the Krenov approach. Most of these videos show working on planes from
start to finish with the "finish" showing the planes creating wispy
shavings basically on wood ideal to demonstrate ideal performance but
not in actual application. I can find nothing that shows planes in
actual practice. I am specifically interested in observing how a
smoothing plane is used and what the shavings and finish look like. I
just built a Krenov-style smoothing plane and can get paper thin
shavings but have no idea of what using this plane would look like. I
can't envision building a cabinet a producing long uniform shavings like
typical idealized presentations. Could you please comment on this
question? Thanks.