Shock Therapy LIVE: Making A Trouble FREE Can-Am Maverick X3
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2020
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This is totally thee BEST videos for newbies with their first clean 2021 X3 car. thank you!!! Can't wait for our first ride! I feel like a kid during Christmas.
Your insight and un-biased videos are great. Unfortunately I have a stack of stock lower A-arms for my X-RC that keep piling up. I called CT Race Worx and asked them what fails? (Lowers, sway bar links and radius rods)
Added their lower a-arms (lifetime warranty) and haven’t broke or bent it yet. We love your suspension set up and we also added the toe link bushings.
Great video with all the info I was looking for things to do on my new car to keep it trouble free. Keep up the great info.
Awesome video and great group of guys! Keep it up!
Thank you for making this video!
Excellent video, thanks!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for making this video, been riding mine hard and I'd like to not have it break.
Well said as always guys
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I really enjoyed this episode
Great information, nothing wrong in this video at all.
Looks like the 2022 has fixed some of the frame issues, but the Bulkhead and Shock Tower mounts are still Single Sheer. Pretty sure I'm pulling the trigger on a New 2022 X3 XRS RR, not the Smart Shox version...the one right below with the Internal Bypass shocks. I think before I even drive the thing, this front end kit will be the first thing to get. I was all about the Turbo S4, but since they are discontinuing that platform, and Can Am has addressed some weak link issues, it just seems like a better option...plus 200 hp and new clutch. I'll be interested to hear what you have to say when you get your hands on one. Keep up the great work and thanks for doing these videos.
Looking forward to the Turbo S video!
Awesome info teacher. Thank you guys again for all this free info.
Shared this to my friends who has X3 #NoChase something like this video for the Textron XX seeing one on my future soon
great video and info thanks
I dig the sound effects hahaha 24:03
I knew that they had a few issues, but man your better to find a good used one then dump the money into it. Great video you guys are killing it and your race shop is very clean.
Thank you very much
Great video, I need to do some of this stuff
First time here guys... great video - very informative. I'm getting my first X3 next week and so excited. I'll definitely keep watching the channel and waiting for more great content.
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I bought a brand new 2021 x3 max with smart shox. I put a little over 5000 miles and 250 hours on it a year. I installed the TMW gusset kit, shock tower brace and front bumper when I bought it. The frame welds on the x3 are horrible! Multiple cracks front front of machine to the back! Have to wait 6 weeks to have dealership inspection
When we drop off for shocks will you guys mount all the other upgrades you just listed?
What do you think about the XMX Radius Rod Nut Plates which mount behind the thin metal where the radius rods mount? I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned. I know the TMW is double sheer radius rod plate but it's still only being supported by that thin piece of metal which most likely has oblonged holes. The XMX would make it double sheer even with just a regular radius rod plate right? Seems like the better choice.
Did anything change on this list for the 2021? I.E. did it go to a double shear
Hi guys / Justin. Firstly thank you for the modification information. I really appreciate the professionalism you and your crew portray other than one (ahem) I won't name names. (-: Question: I have been searching for a list of all of the mod items you spoke of to no avail. Have not been able to find one. Am I just being a dork not looking in the right place or is there no list? Thanks, keep up the GREAT informational videos.
Not sure if there is a list anywhere. Other than this video we have not made one. But, bulkhead and double sheer supports and shock tower braces are TMW, Geiser and S3. Radius rods are all over. TLS kit is us. Frame weld in supports are TMW. That is the short list. Hope that helps.
The TMW shock mount can you run the, baja designs shock brace light? Asking because im currently running the light.
I know this was a while ago but just got my 2021 X3 XD S Turbo RR. Reliable info, other than you awesome guys, is hard to come by. The bulkhead you sell, will that take a Warn Axon 45 winch?
Sway bars will make the cars safer, and i would put that in front of wear and tear. I put Shock Therapy sway bars and links on my RZR and its night and day. I added their coils too...but the sway bars and links make the car safer...the coils made it more comfortable. I would buy them again...if I were to buy a different RZR, and I will be adding their R.I.S. as soon as I can get my buggy to Phoenix, AZ. I don't know them...this is just driver to driver.
What bulkhead would you recommend for a can an X3 RC?
PUT A CATCH CAN ON YOUR CAR!!! I’m surprised they didn’t mention this. A 200$ part can prevent hydro locking your motor from a tip/ rollover… it’s a must.
Edit- evo sells them. Look up oil/ air separator.
Thank you for the video.. Tons of useful information. #nochase
Wow eye opener‼️ I wasn’t sure what to go with l had a choice between the can am and the rzr turbo s. I got the Polaris and this confirms I made the correct choice
Might want to wait until they do the Polaris video, every machine has issues.
Have you guy work on cfmoto 800 and 1000 sport Utvs . Do you make any parts for them
Are these the same weak points with the RC as well, or are a lot of these things beefed up in that model which you’d obviously think would/should be for the price?
So I don’t really see a list??? And some of the stuff mentioned quickly is Greek? I have a new 2021 can am dx turbo, and would like the beef up 2000.00 kit, mostly off road adventure park/trail riding. Is there a kit to include everything, or would we have to figure out how to order everything separately?? Justin mentioned a front bulkhead double shear kit, but can’t find this anywhere?
Thanks, new and learning!
Great video. I will just add my opinion, the benefit to the billet is increased ground clearance, due to the bend. I 100% agree straight vs. straight, chromoly ftw over billet aluminum, but where aluminum billet allows increased ground clearance, then that trumps the higher strength of a steel tube which would be more liikely to strike the ground.
How much does one of the kit cost to put that stuff on the X3 if you are racing it or just playing around with it
Do y'all have someone that y'all recommend that can repair a X3 front end? Arms got ripped out and frame bent
Ouch, poor Chase! Do you install gusset kits etc when people bring cars in for suspension work? Also the RC has a front "bulkhead" installed with the factory winch isn't this doubled sheared as a result?
The RC's are an exception as they are double sheer as a result. But they still rely on the front control arm bolts as mounting points. Any good bulkhead kit will also have bolts to tie it to the front of the frame itself. So for myself, I have a 2020 RC and run a front gusset kit and bulkhead in between the frame and the front winch plate.
Please do an rs1 video
If I show up to the shop with 2,000 bucks can I get it bulletproof? Or is that price without labor ?
for the TLS bolts for the rear hubs, does that require it to be drilled out for the stainless steel inserts?
Yes sir. We supply the drill bit in the kit. There is an instruction video on this channel too.
You have to make a new video with the 22+ models
If I change out the the rear radios rods, will I have to align the rear of the car or do they come pre set to factory spec?
It depends on the brand that you purchase.
What kind of seat belt does it have and how fast will it go
What bumper is that on the prerunner?
great video Shock Therapy. I enjoy watching your videos. I was just curious how well are the roll cages on these stock compared to others? Thanks
They are pretty good I have not seen any crushed cages
I was upside down in mine and the cage was fine, per the dealer even.
Shock Therapy llc Do you think these x3s are so weak that they need stripped down to the bare chassis and have diagonal bracing tig welded in to make them reliable long term??
Can you do a video for Making a Trouble Free XX?
Do you guys sell a kit? That would be amazing. Just got 2 rr turbos and want to make sure I’m not running into any problems.
No sir. we just stay with shocks. Contact TMW, S3 and Geiser Performance.
Wow I knew some of this but not all seems x3 needs a lot of aftermarket parts.
Im finding out the hard way 😂😭
Haven't seen a SXS yet that doesn't
Buy a Polaris for the strength buy a canam for the speed
How much weight do all of your $2000 upgrades add to the car?
I'm curious to know, when the Speed UTV car is launched seeing how everything supposedly is already done on the car are you going to try one or stay with CanAm?
We will have one in the shop to do testing and mods to when they come out. We will make our mind up after that.
I got a question on your x3 do you weld any of the brackets you mention? Or you just bolt them on?
We weld most of them on our car. But it isn’t needed on most play cars. Only on the race side of things.
Hi Justin I just picked up a 2021 x3 Mx RR . Do you think they still need the basic upgrades to keep it from breaking down? I’m not racing just playing in the desert and dunes
Yes sir. They still need them. They have not upgraded the weak spot yet in the 21’s
Best place to buy weld in shock tabs and such?
Tmw
You guys still recommend upgrading the radius rod pull plate on the 2022's ? I see on mine they added 4 extra bolts for a total of 10. 2 up top and 2 on the bottom.. just curious if it's still worth the upgrade or do you guys think they solved most of the issues there ?
2022 plate is much better!
No parts list or links?
I need an X3 64" FRONT Swaybar. When?
We’re not for sure on that one yet
Not sure if you mentioned it in other videos, have you upgraded axles and if so what are you running?
Yes. we run Lonestar on our play car and RCV on our pre runner and on our Race car
Shock Therapy llc T hank you for the info,just noticed it wasn’t on upgrade list.Appreciate and enjoy your content reaffirmed some things I use to tell my RC buggy friends that what goes on inside the shock pistons shims and oil weight was more important than just changing spring weights but they didn’t want to put the work in it.#NO CHASE. lol great work👍
Who has the more reliable engine? Great work guys
Can’t speak for Polaris but we put 3500 race miles on our X3 and change it for the heck of it. Never hurt one. Trans is the same. Just Ana big what they put up with.
Do the 2023 need the front shock tower brace?
They are stronger. Yes. But over time I think it is very necessary. The rest of the 23 frame is killer. Our new stock class car has way more miles on it without any issues than previous year frames.
what type of brakes do you run on your pre runner and race car adding horsepower to my car and would like your opinion on that topic. thanks for your time making the videos, cant wait for the next one.
We run a larger diameter rotor and better pads from Streamline Brakes. They work amazing. The race car has all hard line for brakes and no soft line. Stops twice as good as the pre runner does and it is heavier.
@@ShockTherapyllc thank you customer for life!!!
Shock Therapy llc how do you Run all hard line? Making a Video on that and Brake setups in general would make a great video and help a lot of people out I feel..? It’s definitely not something you can find a lot of good info/opinions on especially with visuals for those of us that learn by seeing instead of reading! Thanks Guys great Job Love y’all! Ima have to call in if I could ever get the timing right.. I would do a lot more worse things to be able to rep a SuperSweet ST Shirt!!
@@ShockTherapyllc That is a poorly addressed issue on stock X3s from reading many others feedback, There seems to be confusion and little consensus what helps cure poor brake feel. Would love to see this topic covered in detail by people that can confidently explain and detail where the issues are and why, and what is required to solve it for the vast majority of common users.
Are the new 2021 CanAm x3 xrc Turbo RR going to have any new upgrades like better front end ?
have to wait till July to find out.
Shock Therapy llc Do you think in 2021 Can Am, or Polaris will do a DCT like the Honda Talon? With the power these units are getting to, I would think they would need to move away from the BELT.
Thank you for the info. If I buy the bulkhead gusset kit and shock brace will you guy install it ?
Sorry we don’t install those. Only our parts
@@ShockTherapyllc okay thank you
I'm going to do the Bulkhead gusset kit this winter. I think the CT race worx has a gusset on the top that TMW does not. Is this any better or needed? I've narrowed it down between these two.
I would suggest the TMW kit strictly from the standpoint of structure and frame mounting. I have a lot of cars pre run the 1000 race course with us with the TMW kit and zero issues. This is a pretty high barometer for real world longevity.
@@ShockTherapyllc Thanks for the quick response. I appreciate your input. I really enjoy our video's also!
Do you think in 2021 Can Am, or Polaris will do a DCT like the Honda Talon? With the power these units are getting to, I would think they would need to move away from the BELT.
Ive been thinking that for years. It’s why I bought the YXZ!
I’d like to hear a response to this he alluded to it in a previous video I believe
Wee Man i’d like to hear his response to this he alluded to it in a previous video I believe
Heily - that’s why I am asking, I have been holding off on another SXS to see if this will happen. Right now it’s a toss up for me between the Polaris, Kawasaki, and Can Am. I am a big and tall type of guy so Honda just didn’t fit me, I guess 6’5” and 290 isn’t a good combo. The Kawasaki I really liked but WAY TO LITTLE POWER, have owned the X3 max so I know I like the can am just seating style I am not totally a fan of.
Just bought X3, how do I get the 2000 dollar list for my play car? Lots of parts listed, is there a lot that includes all your list, for a 21 maverick x3 ds turbo, to upgrade???
Just use the video as your list and contact TMW or Geiser for the parts. They will get you all hooked up
I got a x3 turbo rr 2021 model, has anything changed?
nope all the same stuff
I have a x3 RC with a winch do still need all the front double shear kit ?
Absolutely. The winch supports nothing.
What kit do you recommend that will work with the winch?
Dont know if I missed it but are any of those double shear kits weld on or are they just bolt?
They are bolt on but can be ordered raw so you can weld them on as well. That is just what we did.
@@ShockTherapyllc nice, thank you.
I just preordered my 2021 x3 turbo r and now I’m starting to regret it! Pretty much gotta add another 10k in parts! What machine is great out of the box? Mind you this is my first sxs and I’ve never driven one. So all is new to me. Any info would be greatly appreciated
Polaris rzr, they have done a video on that topic
You can go buy a 30k polaris unit and pretend like it will be okay.
If you ride hard enough to break a Can Am front end, you'll be investing 10k in a Polaris on cage, tierods, radius arms, axles and more.
There isn't a 30k unit out there that is "perfect"
Even Robby Gordon's will run into some problems somewhere, once mass units are out there with people using them.
You can buy a 30k unit and leave it alone.
You can also buy a 30k unit and then realize you love it and want the best performance, ride and quality.
Dropping 1k to help beef up the front end of the X3 is nothing compare to the shit you wanna add.
This video is perfect on what to start with and what to work into.
You don't need to drop 10k in your first 3 months.
Front A arms, or keep them as the weak link?
We run stock unsupported a arms on our pre runner. Never failed unless I made a big mistake driving so I would say keep them.
Wow that's crazy to hear.
Only $100 for two bolts and sleeves and he says that with a straight face. Damn! Does it come with lube at least?
You get what you pay for or, sometimes not. I bought the more expensive Lonestar solution to the center rear radius arm issue and was not able to fit it to my car due to tolerance stack up issues. So it sets on my work bench as a reminder of a bad investment. In the mean time I'm monitoring my machine, a 2018 XRC with 3500+ miles, and will jump on the Shock Therapy solution at the first sign of an issue.
I understand production cars can’t have everything on them but the double shear seems like common sense and it wouldn’t cost that much more to manufacture them I don’t get it?
I agree
Do the 2022 X3's address any of these issues?
Yes they do 👍
Less than 100 miles on mine and I did an awful lot of that stuff.
Someone just needs to make a full chromoly frame and cage
Ct race worx does.
Can you do a Honda Talon Video as well.
Same goes for me double.
Yes, please, a deep dive on Talon R, specifically what the geometry issue is in the rear, and why hanging ballast off the back helps it.
@@1hasbeen531 exactly what I should have said, thanks for the help.
Good videos questions suck because they have nothing to do with subject most of the time.
im not shocked that the x3 has so many weak points. their snowmobiles are notorious for the bulk heads caving in or bending tunnels. thats a total loss for the sled when it happens.
Where would the RIS (with internal valving and spring kit) fall in place on this list for a 2017 X3 XDS? Or are the stock shocks good enough that it’s not on this list? Thanks in advance and great video!
This is a list to help with parts that wear out or give you short trips. The shocks are not one of those. But the RIS and spring will make it way more fun to drive and you may drive much faster which in turn will wear out more parts. So, they are a contributor to the parts list I mentioned. LOL
Shock Therapy llc haha true true, makes sense from that standpoint. Trying to budget stuff out so this list should definitely come before any “fun” stuff lol. Thanks for the quick reply!
I'm looking at buying a new X3 this week. The salesman told me the new 23 models are all double sheer now from the factory. I didn't crawl around and look. Guess I should. Anybody know if that's true?
The 22’s are not. Not sure about 23’s. But 22’s are WAY stronger than before and we have put 2000 race miles on one we very little to address.
Irregardless isn't a word 😇
Is it correct to say irregardless?
Yes. We define irregardless as "regardless." Many people find irregardless to be a nonsensical word, as the ir- prefix usually functions to indicate negation; however, in this case it appears to function as an intensifier.
@@minekaiju77 😂
@@MrSteve8511 nevertheless, I agree with you. It makes someone sound like a tard
So if you’re not a hardcore racer just buy an Xp?
I hope Can Am is taking notes......jesus.....
Great so a 30k$ unit only needs 5k worth of reinforcements and re-engineering to the whole front end to be not a pile of junk !! Aren’t these chassis extremely weak even after the gusset kits are done?? I hear stories about cracks all over the chassis the tubing is about the thickness of exhaust tubing seriously wtf should I get rid of mine and get a xp turbo S rzr Emphasis on the S!! ????
Strengthening the X3 front end is less than $1k.
You can go buy a 30k polaris unit and pretend like it will be okay.
If you ride hard enough to break a Can Am front end, you'll be investing 10k in a Polaris on cage, tierods, radius arms, axles and more.
There isn't a 30k unit out there that is "perfect"
Even Robby Gordon's will run into some problems somewhere, once mass units are out there with people using them.
You can buy a 30k unit and leave it alone.
You can also buy a 30k unit and then realize you love it and want the best performance, ride and quality.
Dropping 1k to help beef up the front end of the X3 is nothing compare to the shit you wanna add.
I would really love to own an X3 but it saddens me all of the aftermarket parts that are needed to make it a solid platform therefore I won’t be buying one of them
Only money. The first time you take it out all the money you spent will be a distant memory.
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This must be where the "mostly stock" can-am that won hammers got all its "factory parts..."
🤔👍
Sorry, I couldn't help myself after the conversation I had with the can-am team following hammers this year. They built ultra4 rigs to look like can-ams and exploited the victory for marketing in such a way that led people to believe a factory rig was that capable. When I called them out on the fact the only thing can-am is the sticker they maintained the lie stating it is "mostly stock with all factory parts..." Hence the reason for my initial comment.
#lovechase ...not! Lol!
To bad you have to pay big money buying the x3 then rebuild it. X3 should have never been made with single sheer parts.
Those parts cost half what the x3 cost, ggg.
Just listening to all the things you have to do to a X3 makes me think BRP just makes junk....Seems like it would be relatively easy and inexpensive for Can Am to beef up the front end and double shear connection points.....why would they have to 'vet' something that is not only a quality control item but also a safety item? Doesn't make business sense....
recommendation: Build a bomb proof my X3 Kit / Bombproof my XP Kit: Bundle it all and put it on your website :) Thank me later
you are correct. But that would piss off all of the shops that we do work for. Also, we are not in the business of building these parts and prefer to let others do it. Makes a lot of sense and we certainly can do it but we should not do it and just concentrate on one thing, shocks.
I mean of the parts that are currently on your site.
@@jaronco We are actually doing that but we don't make much. Other than shock work we have a BSD tie rod kit and TLS rear hub kit. Maybe Radius rods too. Those are going to pop up together if you choose one on the site soon. The rest of the frame stuff we will leave to others. Thank you very much for the recommendation. Really appreciate it!
Well thanks for making me go buy an x3! My business is coming your way. Throughly enjoy the excellent source of info. I don’t recall many in last few years, or any at all, sources of info that I watched numerous times.
I’m an east coast guy by the way. #bullyback
@@jaronco I do often say this is the most expensive FREE show out there. It is the cause of many expensive purchases! Welcome to the X3 family. Thank you for the kind words.
Whats up with all the people asking irrelevant questions live?
So many commercials...
Brand new.....and its a money pit before you get it home. Wtf?
Why would CanAm make everything single shear? That’s so lazy and cheap.
Is it still 100 bucks for you guys to pull the shocks off and set the car if I bring my car in?
Making an x3 reliable? Good luck! It was designed to not be.
Theyve got it covered by far lol..