Time for a Versus Series Legacy? Except I think you've done it already... And Rogue Legacy would just be two games. Unless you did Rouge Legacy, then you could play Power Stone..
Storm's, Wolverine's, Dictator's are more obvious. Zangief seems to move differently once you've got 'em. Sabretooth just gives Wolverine again. The rest...differences are there but they're slighter?
@@NiGHTcapD The command for her copied moves is always the same, making it easier for her to pull many of these moves off than the original characters. I would imagine some combos using these moves are only possible with her inputs.
I love how Rouge has her own raging demon. After she defeats her opponent, she poses & the background has an X stand for X-Men. The developers looked like they had hella fun with Rouge's moveset
I miss 90s rogue... She was my favourite. Her backstory probably the best summary of all mutants in marvel. She just want to pork but can't she'll end up comatizing all the men.
One little detail I love is how Gambit gets a slightly unique animation while being kissed by Rogue because of them being a couple in the comic lore, Capcom has crazy attention to detail and always pays insane tribute to the partner companies in all the versus games!
Definitely took me a little before I figured that out. I remember asking friends at school why the hell Gambit was saying it, then put two and two together
she does drain other powers in the comics but i do remember he kissed cyclops on the show when she and the team was facing magneto she had his power and used it against him
ROGUE HAS A RAGING DEMON!?!?! I've played this for years since I saw it in the arcades back in the day and never freaking knew this!!! Oh man, I'm spent. Very cool vid, per usual
"Oh cool, She gets Akuma's Air fireball. It actually be really cool if she got his raging demon but that might be too broken" *Rogue does a raging demon* *:O*
mvc was a great game in terms of playing it. But it was a nightmare of a fighting game engine to make work. It was not designed to handle all that character interactions on screen(stuff like storm dhc freezing the game like crazy,ruby heart glitch,bb hood glitch etc) it also did not help that for some reason they tied the game logic to fps....
I remember playing this on the arcade, nailing the Raging Demon and seeing people's jaws drop, they didn't realise Rogue stole not just the air fireball but also the Raging Demon. That was priceless :D
@@realamericannegro977 It's the fact that they didn't add more animations to the SF side besides the stun, dash and the shoto fireballs. Had they gone and matched the animations, then it would look a little smoother. The only thing missing on the Xmen side is the crouching idle animation the COTA characters had for the 3 new X characters. If the SF side had the SFA3 animation sprites, then the game would look much more smooth overall.
Yea and modtly time rouge and saber tooth show up they're not even match like the men comic art style design in me children of the atom even marvel super heroes got lucky on that.
Talking about frames, animations, sprites, etc.. it would be so great if Capcom "resurrects" this technique. Imagine 4k sprites with perfect flowing animation? I know games like Skull Girls features this kind of visual, but it would be nicer to witness well know characters instead tbh I liked skull girls, but none of those characters have the charisma of Rogue, imagine compared to the rest of the XvsSF cast? Guilty Gear/Fighterz is the closest to this ideal scenario, KOFXIII is another cool example (but the game is old already)
This is the reason Rogue was my main in XvsSF. I realize why they didn't want to do this for MvC2 (too much sprites to draw), but if we ever get blessed/cursed with another MvC I definitely want this feature back.
If I remember correctly, if you finish them with Zangief’s Spinning Pile Driver as Rogue, you get the X Super Finish background. It is the only normal move that gets this result (not including the Raging Demon).
I've been playing fighting games for over 25 years, and the foundation of my love for fighting games has to be the Marvel Vs series, especially X-Men Vs Street Fighter. SO much personality, beautiful spritework, great music, and incredible chain combos that were so free-flowing it boggled my 10 year old mind.
NekoVira she still dose rogue on her own is a power house of strength and flight permanently because of Carol Danvers plus her mutant ability to steal others powers
@@aaronjames3228 There was a plotline where rogue back when she was still a villain, stole Carol danvers' (at the time miss marvel) powers to the point where she put her in a coma and flight and super stength became part of her powerset. I assumed she eventually lost those powers since most depictions of her in media after the 90s cartoon (the movies, Evolution, Wolverine and the Xmen) don't show her with them.
I find it super awesome tht the developers actually took the time to make the correct animations for each move....thts shows BIG commitment and attention to detail
WAY too many characters on the roster for that to have been feasible. The game is already missing frames of animation. What else would you sacrifice for one character to get fancy?
@@KaitouKaiju True but it's not some secret super power that Ken and Ryu were born with. They both just learned that technique by training hard enough. She could probably do it without the need for a power drain.
@@marche800 Perhaps but to execute a powerful martial arts move (like shoryuken) would take her months or even years of hard training, but thanks to her mutant power she can get not only powers and energy but also memories and personality from her adversaries, so she can "learn" the technique in a second.
I wish they'd kept the "move steal" ability in MVC2 instead of just stat boosts. Obviously, it would've been a nightmare to implement with so many characters ... but damn.
Fun fact: Chun-Li's Kikouken changes apperance in her Alpha costume (it has a yellow ball in the center), if Rogue copies her in that costume the same thing happens
The devs of this game really must’ve worked their asses of for this feature. Maybe they felt it was too much trouble to do in MVC2. It would’ve been dope though!
Who else got up every Saturday morning to watch the X-Men animated series on Fox and was mind blown to hear those exact voices in the game. It’s the little attention to detail that made this game THAT MUCH more amazing. Not to mention anime in the US was so hard to come by and seeing X-men and Street fighter in ANIME style art and presentation was HUGE.
Rogue was so sick is X-Men vs Street Fighter. I wish I knew how to play her back then. That Raging Demon? I didn't know she could steal that move! So sick
This is what fighting games were supposed to be... No frames, no cheap combos, no overpowered or underpowered characters... Just pure execution and timing!!!
@@TeamPaul17 It's not just programming. It also includes sprites and animation, especially trying to copy a specific move for Rogue to use from the rest of the MVC2 cast. Now she could copy the rest of the SF characters (Sakura for example), and possibly Morrigan (I can picture Rogue use Soul Fist) and her fellow X-Men and some of the Avengers from Marvel. But the rest like B.B. Hood, Tron, and even Cable, it could be difficult because those characters uses weapons. Then we have Sentinel...
Rogue can also copy special moves in the non-Capcom fighting games, X-Men: Mutant Academy 2 and X-Men: Next Dimension, if you're interested in seeing more of this.
Just got the Saturn version of this gem a few weeks ago! Truly an amazing game. As for my fav: I know it isn't a combo, but Rogue breaking out the ol SPD is pretty satisfying!
My favorite has to be the SPD but the Raging Demon comes a close second. Tell me your favorite NOW!!!
So glad they added the raging demon! But I wish they had made her do the same pose too!
Whaaaat? How come her Raging Demon beat Akuma’s? I never knew that...
Raging demon!
4:54 yeah if you pause there I can totally see why...
I NEVER KNEW ABOUT THE RAGING DEMON!!!!
I love Rogue and have wanted to make this video forever. I'm SO GLAD Desk did it first. Good shit dude.
Man. Only 6 likes?
Why doesn't this have more likes?
Main man Max! I don't know why I'm surprised to see him at a desk video. Always a pleasure.
i didn't knew she could do the raging demon and that is fricking awesome, and i'm glad to see Max enjoys Desk videos too
Time for a Versus Series Legacy?
Except I think you've done it already...
And Rogue Legacy would just be two games. Unless you did Rouge Legacy, then you could play Power Stone..
Rogue kissing Cammy awaken something in my young self.
Oh god....
Lmao
very understandable
Rogue kissing the females
Not alone there buddy
Ryu, Ken, Akuma: Years of training to perform Hado techniques
Rogue: Let's make out real quick. *Raging Demon*
Rogue: "Dah one thousand deaths, sugah! "
@@SaviorGabriel and that could be a story for her next MARVEL comic but
yeah that's sure as hell is true
@@tiga92001 U sure Disney Marvel is gonna let rouge ever kiss a man again?
@@enishiyukishiro6751 nothing wrong with one big hug I guess
I don't read many comics but is this possible in the canon? Can she steal knowlodge about stuff from people too?
I like how you can tell there are distinct differences between the copied moves and originals. Sometimes they serve different purposes.
Storm's, Wolverine's, Dictator's are more obvious. Zangief seems to move differently once you've got 'em. Sabretooth just gives Wolverine again. The rest...differences are there but they're slighter?
Rogue's yoga flame is slightly faster, as well as the Hadouken. Piledriver doesn't go that high. Earthquake doesn't travel as far as Juggernaut's.
@@NiGHTcapD The command for her copied moves is always the same, making it easier for her to pull many of these moves off than the original characters. I would imagine some combos using these moves are only possible with her inputs.
@@TeamPaul17 That too. Easier to pull off a Hadouken motion than a Shoryuken...or an SPD...
@@NiGHTcapD Her Juggernaut one can lead to an infinite combo. but maybe that only works on juggs?
I love how Rouge has her own raging demon. After she defeats her opponent, she poses & the background has an X stand for X-Men. The developers looked like they had hella fun with Rouge's moveset
There she is: the OG waifu Seth.
“Goodnight, Sugar~!”
Rogue is such a creative character design.
I miss 90s rogue... She was my favourite. Her backstory probably the best summary of all mutants in marvel. She just want to pork but can't she'll end up comatizing all the men.
@@maosama3695 I will take one for the team
In Street Fighter vs X-men, everyone was at their strongest. Rogue was my girl. Her and either Juggs or Mag-ness!
Did she really tho? I won’t blame marvel if true but I’m not sure how to fact check that without getting into NSFW fanfic territory lol
@AT Productions if only the movie version of rogue looked just as good 😞
One little detail I love is how Gambit gets a slightly unique animation while being kissed by Rogue because of them being a couple in the comic lore, Capcom has crazy attention to detail and always pays insane tribute to the partner companies in all the versus games!
This video is a reminder of how I've always been annoyed by the fact that Gambit's Royal Flush super does 37 hits instead of 52.
So glad to read someone else thought this.
Are you me?
Not even 20, like the 4 Royal Flushes per deck. It's a strange number, 37.
That's indeed a good point, lol I am not a "card game" fan or anything, I barely know the rules... but that would be a cool reference regardless
He's not playing with a full deck
"Goodnight sugar!" She's so cute! Sabertooth is the most disappointing one, she just gets berserker barrage again
Rodrigo Marcondes that was disrespectful to saber tooth 😭🤦🏾♂️
Rogue is basically the kirby of this game.
Or Seth
Or Android 21
Better than Seth
@@brandonsellers1076 better than sf5 seth. sf4 seth was a beast
Or MKX Shinok
The Alpha, MSH, XvSF, MvSF, MMX, and MvC tracks are still top tier.
Capcom bodied this era.
Dont leave out Msh. The mid 90s were when Capcom went to the next level in ost. Cota has good music too, but Msh is distinctly evolved in comparison.
@@carlosaugusto9821 Thanks, forgot to add it.
And the resurrected the genre with SF4... then they SHIT on it with SFV.
Bodied the 90’s
@ZiggyKick92 Megaman X wasn't in arcades lol
0:45
I'm not the only kid that thought he was saying "credit card", right?
How are you, Ken?
I knew I wasn't the only one
SAMe!
It's "Kinetic Card", but now that you said that, I can't unhear it XD
Definitely took me a little before I figured that out. I remember asking friends at school why the hell Gambit was saying it, then put two and two together
that moment when you JUST NOW realize that Rogue could steal moves like this IN THIS GAME.
This just blew my mind!
she does drain other powers in the comics but i do remember
he kissed cyclops on the show when she and the team was facing magneto
she had his power and used it against him
@@tiga92001 I already knew of Rogue's powers from the years of Xmen shows.
I just was oblivious that they added it in this game. I had no idea
Same honestly
Same. Been playing for YEARS and never thought to even try it
She did take down Captain Marvel by stealing her powers.
ROGUE HAS A RAGING DEMON!?!?! I've played this for years since I saw it in the arcades back in the day and never freaking knew this!!! Oh man, I'm spent. Very cool vid, per usual
"Oh cool, She gets Akuma's Air fireball. It actually be really cool if she got his raging demon but that might be too broken"
*Rogue does a raging demon*
*:O*
That over powers akumas BTW lol
Same exact thoughts ! Are you Professor X ???!
While this is awesome, I could see how this was a pain in the ass to even bother doing in MvC2.
I really, really wish they had done it in MvC2 though. Would have been awesome!
Rogue in mvc2 was a missed opportunity
Well, you could always get a bit creative and re-use the existing sprites for different purposes.
mvc was a great game in terms of playing it.
But it was a nightmare of a fighting game engine to make work. It was not designed to handle all that character interactions on screen(stuff like storm dhc freezing the game like crazy,ruby heart glitch,bb hood glitch etc) it also did not help that for some reason they tied the game logic to fps....
I imagine an MvC2 where Rogue would have ended up like Android 21 in DBFZ.
I remember playing this on the arcade, nailing the Raging Demon and seeing people's jaws drop, they didn't realise Rogue stole not just the air fireball but also the Raging Demon. That was priceless :D
XvSF animation is so good. Sometimes it's easy to forget how many missing frames there are in the MvC2 animations of the same sprites.
Yep I think that Xmen vs Street Fighter's animation was toned down a bit too in comparison to Marvel Super Heros and Children of the Atom
@@realamericannegro977 It's the fact that they didn't add more animations to the SF side besides the stun, dash and the shoto fireballs. Had they gone and matched the animations, then it would look a little smoother. The only thing missing on the Xmen side is the crouching idle animation the COTA characters had for the 3 new X characters.
If the SF side had the SFA3 animation sprites, then the game would look much more smooth overall.
It's probably because Capcom was too lazy to copy and paste frames all the frames of the returning characters because they were using 3D hardware
Yea and modtly time rouge and saber tooth show up they're not even match like the men comic art style design in me children of the atom even marvel super heroes got lucky on that.
Talking about frames, animations, sprites, etc.. it would be so great if Capcom "resurrects" this technique. Imagine 4k sprites with perfect flowing animation? I know games like Skull Girls features this kind of visual, but it would be nicer to witness well know characters instead tbh I liked skull girls, but none of those characters have the charisma of Rogue, imagine compared to the rest of the XvsSF cast? Guilty Gear/Fighterz is the closest to this ideal scenario, KOFXIII is another cool example (but the game is old already)
Imagine the amount of new sprites they should have made if they wanted to continue with the same mechanic in MvC2.
It would have been funny if she takes servbots move to throw other servbots
Rogue and Psylocke were always THICC in these games 😈
FFFAXX! Let her steal *my* powers, shii.
Them and Felicia brother!
Psylocke was ridiculous. Thighs for days.
Them tight ass body suits 😍😍😍😍
It's fitting for them since they are the brawler types but not for Storm
Rogue: Kiss Sabretooth and do a Wolverine move
Sabretooth: I am a joke to you?
I'm here for nine minutes of Rogue's theme on loop.
I think my favourite is Earthquake!
Your videos always brighten up my day Desk.
Your comment brightened up my day! :)
@@deskcombo Good to know :) keep up the amazing job man.
Rogue: Now i've got your power!
*Out of nowhere get sucker punch by pharaoh man*
I understood that reference
Like someone in a video about Pharaoh Man once said "You fool! My powers is to be punched in the face like a little bitch!"
you got: concussion
Played this game to death in the Arcades 20 years ago and never knew she could also perform Akuma's Raging Demon.
That's what I'm saying! And i played the shit out of this game...
Admit it, you're just here to see Rogue kiss all the girls.
Hell no !!
@@mariorodriguez3898 Exacctl!E
@@mariorodriguez3898 Liar!
Looking back at this, Capcom should have let Rogue steal supers too. Imagine if Rogue could do a Shinkuu Hadoken beam.
I was today years old to know Rogue got Raging Demon
lool same
What? English much?
@@mosesmelchezidek5295 found the boomer.
Moses Melchezidek the phrasing is from semi-recent social media viral content.
@@mosesmelchezidek5295 get with the times
The amount of hotness of Rogue in this game is another level.
This is the reason Rogue was my main in XvsSF. I realize why they didn't want to do this for MvC2 (too much sprites to draw), but if we ever get blessed/cursed with another MvC I definitely want this feature back.
When I first heard about android 21 in fighterz this is exactly how I thought her stealing mechanic would work.
If I remember correctly, if you finish them with Zangief’s Spinning Pile Driver as Rogue, you get the X Super Finish background. It is the only normal move that gets this result (not including the Raging Demon).
I've been playing fighting games for over 25 years, and the foundation of my love for fighting games has to be the Marvel Vs series, especially X-Men Vs Street Fighter. SO much personality, beautiful spritework, great music, and incredible chain combos that were so free-flowing it boggled my 10 year old mind.
Not to mention they used the actual voice actors from the X-Men animated series on Fox Saturday mornings which was a huge hit at the time.
Good thing Rogue was carrying a pack of cards too.
@C W Must've stole his pickpocket skills too.
Imagine how cool she would have been in marvel 3 with flight and that move steal ability.
I don’t think she has flight anymore, since those were captain marvels.
@@Fanatic_Foremem what do you mean
NekoVira she still dose rogue on her own is a power house of strength and flight permanently because of Carol Danvers plus her mutant ability to steal others powers
@@aaronjames3228 There was a plotline where rogue back when she was still a villain, stole Carol danvers' (at the time miss marvel) powers to the point where she put her in a coma and flight and super stength became part of her powerset. I assumed she eventually lost those powers since most depictions of her in media after the 90s cartoon (the movies, Evolution, Wolverine and the Xmen) don't show her with them.
@@Fanatic_Foremem No she still has them
Back in my day- we had a SF5 Seth... she was a loveable rogue.
Love the effort and detail put in this video. Also, this music always gets me nostalgic. Great stuff.
I find it super awesome tht the developers actually took the time to make the correct animations for each move....thts shows BIG commitment and attention to detail
Thanks for making this, this brought back so many memories for me
I'll miss Bison's scissor kick nightmare, but it's fine
I was so dissapointed when in mvc2 they just gave her generic buffs instead of the copied moves.
*same*
This is the comment i was looking for. Dang it! I was hoping i just sucked and know she could steal
Moves lame
Most likely time constraints. That was too much work for them to give her all those new animations.
WAY too many characters on the roster for that to have been feasible. The game is already missing frames of animation. What else would you sacrifice for one character to get fancy?
@@Naotahaley MVC2 cut down everything that made the previous games good. Controls, moves, animations. It's my least favorite vs. game for that reason.
I played this game for hours and hours since my childhood and only now am I learning that Rogue got a raging demon. Insane. Bless you desk
You can see the love they put into this character through all the extra animations and mechanics
Gotta love how Rogue needs to drain someone's powers just to do a simple uppercut.
It's an uppercut with startup invincibility and flames
@@KaitouKaiju True but it's not some secret super power that Ken and Ryu were born with. They both just learned that technique by training hard enough. She could probably do it without the need for a power drain.
@@marche800 Perhaps but to execute a powerful martial arts move (like shoryuken) would take her months or even years of hard training, but thanks to her mutant power she can get not only powers and energy but also memories and personality from her adversaries, so she can "learn" the technique in a second.
@@ginodescalzi6476 I mean you say that but you have people like Sakura learning it with little formal training.
Reminds me of SF5 seth
So interesting to see all the different animations she has for all the characters!! c:
The best VS game ever. You can tell by just playing the game that the game designers really care about the project and characters.
They really need to release all these old vs's games on console
Yatazar I concur
At first you thought she only had few moves and super combo but she can copy anyone and that’s dope! My favorite Xmen character.
I wish they'd kept the "move steal" ability in MVC2 instead of just stat boosts. Obviously, it would've been a nightmare to implement with so many characters ... but damn.
Sorry gamers we ain’t getting a soundtrack like this ever again
Everyone: Check out my powers
Rogue: Check out our powers
I laughed so hard at dhalsim not having a combo sequence
Amazing depiction of X-Men! Those were the times
Fun fact: Chun-Li's Kikouken changes apperance in her Alpha costume (it has a yellow ball in the center), if Rogue copies her in that costume the same thing happens
The devs of this game really must’ve worked their asses of for this feature. Maybe they felt it was too much trouble to do in MVC2. It would’ve been dope though!
Did you read my mind?
I was thinking about searching for this like... yesterday lol.
Thanks man.
This is really fascinating, as a kid who always watched others play in arcades but never participated myself. Thanks desk!
Beautifully done.
Pretty impressive how they economized on all the extra sprites and animations Rogue needs to be able to copy movesets. It works wonderfully.
When you realize rouge won’t kiss you and steal you power😔
Who else got up every Saturday morning to watch the X-Men animated series on Fox and was mind blown to hear those exact voices in the game. It’s the little attention to detail that made this game THAT MUCH more amazing. Not to mention anime in the US was so hard to come by and seeing X-men and Street fighter in ANIME style art and presentation was HUGE.
This makes you appreciate all the work that went into this character which I never realized.
This will always be my favourite of the Capcom crossover games. Sooooo many quarters put into this game! Good times
Had no idea she had Shun Goku Satsu from absorbing Akuma. That's really cool!
Like for almost making it to 10min money
Rogue was so sick is X-Men vs Street Fighter. I wish I knew how to play her back then. That Raging Demon? I didn't know she could steal that move! So sick
You know what's funny Seth and her steal some of the exact same moves. I like that
This is what fighting games were supposed to be... No frames, no cheap combos, no overpowered or underpowered characters... Just pure execution and timing!!!
Wdym by no frames lmao
This game is actually pretty broken
Has a lot of infinites
It sounds so weird from Ryu and Ken not saying Shoryuken or Hadouken
That must have been the Asian arcade version. Typically Japanese lines get muted out of these versions.
thank you for not putting that scanlines filter. amazing content as always
I played this game a lot in the arcades as a kid, today I just learned Rogue can make a raging demon!
I didn't know I needed this video, but here I am.
6:31
"You're eyes! Shut your eyes!!!"
-Cyclops
Rogue is my FAVORITE VS next to Captain Commando
I wish they brought this mechanic into MvC2. Was a really cool mechanic compaired to the "Life, Power, Armour" ones they gave her.
I was disappointed as well, but understood why. That would have taken a LOT more programming work.
@@TeamPaul17 It's not just programming. It also includes sprites and animation, especially trying to copy a specific move for Rogue to use from the rest of the MVC2 cast. Now she could copy the rest of the SF characters (Sakura for example), and possibly Morrigan (I can picture Rogue use Soul Fist) and her fellow X-Men and some of the Avengers from Marvel. But the rest like B.B. Hood, Tron, and even Cable, it could be difficult because those characters uses weapons. Then we have Sentinel...
Rogue can also copy special moves in the non-Capcom fighting games, X-Men: Mutant Academy 2 and X-Men: Next Dimension, if you're interested in seeing more of this.
Rogue doing the Raging Demon OMG You really always learn something new everyday.
I've been looking for this. thank you!
I like how her not only still Gambits powers, but steal his cards too
Thanks for the time put into this
Wonderful video full of detailed stuff. 👏👏👏
“You can drain my energy anytime, chere. Gambit has plenty!”
- Gambit
I always play the move stealing character in every game i play. Thanks for posting.
Making rogue must have been a real chore but time well spent. Hope we can see her and this technique in future games
The master returns
That Raging Demon though.... Rogue is the Best!
Wow, I never knew that you could use Akuma's air fireball when you steal from him... I thought only Raging Demon was enabled! Nice!
Desk ty for showing me the light. I cant believe I never knew about this. ROGUE doing Zangief front Piledriver move.....damn
I love how Rogue got "censored" at the end of the video
😂😂 .. right .. i was like what!, No0o0o0 .. let me see !! .. then they moved her and saw she had clothes on and felt ashamed 😅
Wtf, after all this years i didn't know about this.
Thanks you desk now im playing this game again.
I never knew that Rogue had so many custom animations for move theft. Where has the time gone, Capcom?
Never knew she could 360° and Raging _Demonize!_ After all those years... ☻
After watching this, someone needs to make a Seth Rogue pc mod.
Props for a quality video !
Rogue needs to return on the next MvC stealing the opponent's hyper combo.
While Waiting i want a MVC Legacy Collection.
@@conradojavier7547 me too
Just got the Saturn version of this gem a few weeks ago! Truly an amazing game. As for my fav: I know it isn't a combo, but Rogue breaking out the ol SPD is pretty satisfying!
such a cool charactaer for a fighting game!! SI love that mecanic