The Presbyterian View: The Sacraments
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- If any Reformed person makes it sound like the sacraments are basically just symbolic or "signs and seals" but nothing more, show them this quote by John Knox, the founder of Presbyterianism, from the Scots Confession.
"And thus we utterly damn the vanity of those that affirm sacraments to be nothing else but naked and bare signs. No, we assuredly believe that by Baptism we are ingrafted in Christ Jesus to be made partakers of his justice, by the which our sins are covered and remitted; and also, that in the Supper, rightly used, Christ Jesus is so joined with us, that he becomes the very nourishment and food of our souls. Not that we imagine any transubstantiation of bread into Christ’s natural body, and of wine in his natural blood (as the Papists have perniciously taught and damnably believed); but this union and communion which we have with the body and blood of Christ Jesus in the right use of the sacraments, is wrought by operation of the Holy Ghost, who by true faith carries us above all things that are visible, carnal, and earthly, and makes us to feed upon the body and blood of Christ Jesus, which was once broken and shed for us, which now is in the heaven, and appeareth in the presence of his Father for us."
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This video was great to clarify the traditional Presbyterian view on sacraments and their role in salvation, I was really messed up and confused. I shall also admit ur videos are cool (mixing gaming with explaining biblical truths). Ur channel deserve support.
please do more on the sacraments and recommend some books if possible
And this water symbolizes the baptism that now saves you also-not the removal of dirt from the body, but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
1 Peter 3:21 BSB
"But the pledge of a clear conscience toward God"
Hey there, reformed baptist in a non-denominational church here. Really enjoying your content! While I totally affirm the reformed view of the sacraments you affirm here, my congregation is mostly zwinglian and don't affirm spiritual presence (even one pastor who works that into the liturgy when he is leading communion, which is pretty disheartening), so I think that is a fair criticism of baptists/nondenominationalists.
Since we differ on the proper recipients of baptism though, I am curious what the Presbyterian reason is for not communing infants. It seems to me that either infant communion or believers baptism is more internally consistent. What are your thoughts on this?
Looking to your good works for assurance of salvation seems kinda sus to me. Sure, we could, but what about looking to Christ alone for salvation?
I would never be looking to my own good works, because I cannot DO good works. The only things I would look to would be turning around to see the good works the Holy Spirit has done through me.
He simply means that the fruit of salvation ((works)( Ephesians 2 and James 2) ) points to the inward reality of the root of the matter: salvation and justification by faith in Christ.
Works are never what we have faith in. It is simply a way of showing the faith that does save.
@wisdom1611The sacraments are not the work of man, but a work of God.
@wisdom1611 Spiritual baptism is not about us doing anything, it’s about God sending to e Holy Spirit. Physical baptism is a signification of the spiritual(because we are supposed to on earth what is to be done in heaven). To say baptism isn’t a work of God would be saying Spiritual baptism isn’t a work of God, as they are by definition in the Bible, parallels. Btw, if you don’t believe in the sacraments, then you look towards yourself for salvation by asking yourself wether you have enough faith or good works that show you are saved
Im a Catholic and i have always been conflicted between spiritual and literally recieving the body and blood of Christ. I honestly have been leaning toward believing spiritually. does that make me not a real Catholic?
I am not a Catholic so I can't say whether you are real or not, but I can tell you I am not Catholic because nobody can tell me I am not a real Christian. Just be a real Christian and any difference with the Catholic Church should not make or break you.
I know you said you didn't want to analyze every case, but I have one question to ask.
What if the reason why one doesn't want to be baptized, at least at the moment, is because it reminds someone too much of the notion of a requirement in order to receive something? Reminds one too much of the tyranny one was under?
I know, this is genuinely a stupid, to the meaning of the word itself, emotion position to be in. The example being the jab in my case, being told that I have to take that or else, to which I did not buckle nor bend to, and I suffered great persecution for, versus baptism which by all accounts is a jubilous event, and furthermore by all accounts is not something which you're told if you are not baptized you are unsaved.
So my question is, what if the reason why somebody doesn't want to be baptized is because it reminds that somebody of that other thing, to be told you have to be baptized in order to be saved?
I recognize that it's my own weakness in faith not to want to be baptized, in my opinion the way I see it in my case, I am a weak soul, I am a blind soul, who knows yet does not know.
I know I'm not the channel owner, but I do have a bit of a response for you that I pray might help:
being baptized and being saved are two different things. Baptism is a symbol of what happens when you become saved.
When you are saved, you become "born again", which is to say - the old person you were has died and you have become someone new in Christ. (2 Corinthians 5:17 - Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!).
Baptism symbolizes this in you going under the water being the old person, and the one rising up out of the water being a new person.
To be baptized is not a requirement for salvation. Otherwise, deathbed conversions wouldn't save anybody because it isn't unheard of for people to convert on their deathbed and then die before having a change to get baptized. Baptism is simply the symbol of your promise to follow Christ.
If you truly have been saved, you should get baptized. It may just be a simple symbol, but it's a powerful one and does allow you to take part in the Lord's supper.
Now, about your personal struggle.
It is not weak to struggle. The name "Israel" means to "wrestle with God". Whatever issue you have, as long as you acknowledge the issue, you can get through it by relying on God to guide you - through prayer and reading scripture.
If you are feeling reluctance towards baptism because of your past, then I'm sure people have already told you that you should discuss with people whom you trust and who know you, and you should pray.
However, you should also know that you have victory over your past through Jesus. I don't know you personally, but it sounds like you might need to forgive somebody.
Being born again, means giving up who you once were. If you want to seal that promise shut for good, then you should get baptized.
I will note, though: in spite of my advice, don't get baptized before you are ready. if you feel unready or uneasy about it, then don't do it yet.
That's how I see it.
@@MisterShnig Thank you for this. I will admit I do have a lot of personal trauma, a lot of bad feelings about myself, and bad feelings towards certain others, which manifest very negatively in the ways which I sin, that I struggle with.
I hate my sin, truly I do, because of all the reasons why sin is such per its namesake; missing the mark. I will just mention, I do dearly struggle with lust, as many young people do, as it is a facade of true love and appreciation of or by another. This is the one sin I actively fight with.
@@imrukiitoaoffire1908 Same, lust is my biggest struggle as well, but I only actually fall for it when I decide to look away from Christ. He had taken away my addiction when I was born again but several months later I brought it back and now it's a fight I fight. It's getting better, though. I've decided to believe that I won't always have to struggle with just this one last lingering sin, but that in Christ I can have victory over even lust, and since then I've gotten better bit by bit. :)
@@imrukiitoaoffire1908 you have scrupulosity. I will pray for you, do not feel compelled to be baptized if your conscience will not allow it. Then you'd be commiting a sin by forcing this upon yourself before you are ready...
To me, sacraments seem like another kind of good work... Could you clarify that?
The first question to ask would be whose work?
That's a good point. Ultimately, it's Christ's work that "qualifies" the believer. But I'd maintain that His work is independent of the sacraments.
There's room for respectful debate on the specifics, though I have neither the knowledge nor the brainpower to do so coherently right now.
are you recording at 15fps or something what is this gameplay lol
this is one of my earliest videos, where I was very inexperienced with my video editing software and set it to 8 fps haha
@@redeemedzoomer6053 makes sense; I was watching the gameplay like "that doesn't look like the gameplay of someone playing at 15fps, but maybe the recording settings are" XD
Eternal life in Christ is offered freely by God to the whole world and those who want that eternal life in Christ will come to know Him by obeying His commands.
So anyone that says they know Him, is the one that obeys His commandments.
1 John 2:2-4
2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him
Anne Hutchinson did nothing wrong. Does RZ agree?