Thanks for that, just what I needed on a Saturday morning to get me going. (PS hate that standard gauge track it wrecked our steam train tours here in SA)
Yes it would limit your choice of lines. Maybe you need to get a standard gauge steamer and some gauge convertible carriages. Loco may not look right, but would sound OK. I know an R came to NSW. I wonder if they will ever get it converted and running there.
I agree. It cut off a lot of the funds Steamranger was receiving since they were able to go to Adelaide, but since they can’t a lot of their restorations and other projects (520 especially) have been slowed down :( I heard if Steamranger could still run to Adelaide, 520 would be up and running now. What if they did dual gauge to mt Barker? It might be pipe dreams now but it could be a possibility in the future.
Its been many years since i been in Melbourne, i noticed a few more skyscrapers in the background there and williams landing is certainly something i haven't seen before. Thanks for the vid and explaining the signals. Great work.
@@tressteleg1 Spot on. Also, overcrowding is increasing, perhaps your V/Line contacts would know whether 7, 8, 9 car Vlocitys are feasible. There used to be an evening peak express of 2-2-3 cars.
I missed this earlier. Unfortunately I know nobody in VLine so cannot give you any answers. Maybe Wikipedia has some information. It amazes me that VLine is running rail motors on what are essentially suburban trips out the back of Werribee.
Thanks. I try to add useful information which is usually lacking in other videos I watch (on rare occasions). It can be hard to find things on CZcams but this may help you find any Melbourne rides which you may have missed 😊 Driver's View Trains Melbourne czcams.com/play/PLLtOIHp49XNDtaNr2H41P2th0S56s6bIH.html
have you set up a profile on metro's website with your CV and cover letter and try to familiarize yourself with the network you will be given a psycometric test aswell so i do recommend practicing these good luck dude
@@tressteleg1 Cheers, I have spoken to 2. Hours and loss of weekends was their worse negative, they may have been reserved in telling me all. Still beats my line of work. Thanks again
In this video, you (tresstelg1) demonstrate how all the signals work and how they work in order according to the light of the pole. This is a very good education for people with a lack of knowledge to see how the trains work and their signals. This is not an easy work according to the driver of the train. Well done.
I remember RAAF Williams ... yeah. Also, that approach to the sidings has changed massively since 😬 Most of that space was sidings for the Steamrail and Museum people. 😬 Have to really pay attention to the signals and their sighting thereof ... busy as 😮 Thanks for the video, thoroughly enjoyed it. 😎
I have overheard that all Altona Loop services now terminate at Laverton unfortunately, if u wanna enjoy via the loop from Werribee. But otherwise i guess it may be good news for Werribee to Laverton peeps as they get the express to Newport. Sometimes limited express to Footscray via Newport.
VincentKoh LUMCFan There is nothing to overhear. I have already posted the Altona line and it ends at Laverton. If you check the public timetable I think you will find the ride is Laverton via Altona daytime weekdays, and at that time, Werribee via the old Geelong Main Line. Other times it is Werribee via Altona.
I was pretty silly that time not to ride the limited express skipping the Altona Loop and all stations Newport to Footscray...I decided to try the Altona Loop but didnt know it would have occurred more frequently gg
The same brain-dead moron who dislikes every one of my videos within minutes of it being posted. I don’t imagine that the F...wit even looks at any of them.
Great video! Maybe a bit les zoom in? Thanks for adding the signal explenations. Question: I noted that at the signals at 14:18 (red/yellow) and 15:40 (red/red) there is a grid in the track. A grid that looks like the British TPWS grid. Is it something like it that controls the speed of the train here? Tnx for sharing.
Most likely. Those through sidings are reasonably new. So they might have just put them in there when they rejigged the signals for the sidings. There's usually a sign that says start axle counters or end axle counters but maybe because it's only two signals they didn't bother.
Note the responses from Peter F. Note also that the centre and right tracks are bidirectional suburban tracks and so the axle counters may be more important than usual. It’s quite possible that some freight trains use this track as well. The left track is standard gauge and also bidirectional.
@JS317Productions , does the difference relate to the difference in stopping distances compared to passenger trains (like n and ns for speeds) that is, it is further from the upcoming crossing or whatever than the bg cross sign. or a sign that is different because it is the same sign as that in other states and therefore an attempt at nationwide sign standardisation?
The better train won? lol let's hook the same amount of weight and go again, heck you can even have the extra two engines. Admittedly i'm a novice here but.... green = go yellow = go red = go until next signal Blue = stop! I think i'm stick to regular old road traffic lights!
He goes over this in an earlier video. Green means next signal at proceed. Yellow next signal at stop. Either color over a red means track speed. Under a red means 40kph. Yellow over green means slow to 40 by next signal and obviously red over red is stop. A single Blue is for sidings only and means stop. Red is also used in sidings.
Signals located on the right are fairly common, it's usually for sighting reasons. If you watch from about 10:45 you'll see that the one at Galvin would have been obscured by overhead wiring poles if it had been located on the left. This way it's visible from much further away.
Thanks. Live and learn. Nevertheless I don’t ever recall seeing a right side signal in Sydney, but maybe I have forgotten from so long ago. If anything they probably would have put a repeater of some sort further back.
@@tressteleg1 Yes I haven't noticed any in Sydney either, although they do put signals on the right of the right hand track in bi-directional areas. The policy in Melbourne seems to change frequently, in 2013 several new signals on the Hurstbridge line were placed on the right, but over the last few years it's become much more popular to have co-acting signals. Another situation that happens here due to our sparks being driver only, is sometimes the signal is located on the right to be closer to the SPOT monitor, so the driver can easily see the signal while also watching the platform. Greensborough platform 1 on the up is an example of this.
The only problem, Why do people think they need to zoom in? It stuff the actual speed of the trains doing that. No need to zoom In better if you dont, Train looks like its doing 10 to 15km/h
I am not the cameraman. I am very grateful that my friend is willing to risk his job by taking these videos for me to process. I am certainly not going to criticise his camerawork. He could easily decide to do these no longer, and then where would we be?
@@tressteleg1 perhaps it should stop then. If you are risking your job then it should stop. If he asked for permission then it wouldn't be an issue. I know some of these states will allow filming but under strict conditions.
As I said above, I am not the cameraman, or a train driver or a person permitted into the cab. The Rail Safety Act says no electronic devices in the cab (but with talking on a phone while driving being the main intent). That is why I am always vague about the dates or any other info which could lead to his detection, assuming Metro is looking for him. Maybe they don’t care, but who knows?
I got your email about confusing standard gauge drivers but as often happens, I can’t find your words in CZcams itself. Nevertheless SG drivers should know the road well enough to not become confused with BG signals. That still does not explain why they are on the wrong side. Here and there in these videos I have seen other places where the signals are on the right.
Yes , the drivers should know the road but I was thinking along the lines (no pun intended) a driver could become disorientated at night.As an aside the single line between Albury , where I live, and Wagga Wagga has several crossing loops. All the loops have "main linë" or, i think "crossing loop" , on the respective loops.
I love your videos Tressteleg 1, I watch every new one you post, keep up the good work...................
I hope that includes the overseas ones 😄😄
Thanks for that, just what I needed on a Saturday morning to get me going. (PS hate that standard gauge track it wrecked our steam train tours here in SA)
Yes it would limit your choice of lines. Maybe you need to get a standard gauge steamer and some gauge convertible carriages. Loco may not look right, but would sound OK. I know an R came to NSW. I wonder if they will ever get it converted and running there.
I agree. It cut off a lot of the funds Steamranger was receiving since they were able to go to Adelaide, but since they can’t a lot of their restorations and other projects (520 especially) have been slowed down :( I heard if Steamranger could still run to Adelaide, 520 would be up and running now. What if they did dual gauge to mt Barker? It might be pipe dreams now but it could be a possibility in the future.
Its been many years since i been in Melbourne, i noticed a few more skyscrapers in the background there and williams landing is certainly something i haven't seen before. Thanks for the vid and explaining the signals. Great work.
Thanks for taking me back to the sections I no longer see, now that our Geelong trains go via Sunshine. A great video.
Yes, heaps more Km but little time saving.
@@tressteleg1 Spot on. Also, overcrowding is increasing, perhaps your V/Line contacts would know whether 7, 8, 9 car Vlocitys are feasible. There used to be an evening peak express of 2-2-3 cars.
I missed this earlier. Unfortunately I know nobody in VLine so cannot give you any answers. Maybe Wikipedia has some information.
It amazes me that VLine is running rail motors on what are essentially suburban trips out the back of Werribee.
Thank you for your explanations along the trip. Wonderful journeying with you.
Thanks. I try to add useful information which is usually lacking in other videos I watch (on rare occasions).
It can be hard to find things on CZcams but this may help you find any Melbourne rides which you may have missed 😊
Driver's View Trains Melbourne
czcams.com/play/PLLtOIHp49XNDtaNr2H41P2th0S56s6bIH.html
thank you for another excellent video with subtitles 10/10. Would love to be a train driver
👍😊. If you are serious about being a train driver then I suggest you chat to a few train drivers and see how they like the job.
have you set up a profile on metro's website with your CV and cover letter and try to familiarize yourself with the network you will be given a psycometric test aswell so i do recommend practicing these good luck dude
True, but chatting to some drivers first is quite important. If they are honest, their replies may surprise you.
@@tressteleg1 Cheers, I have spoken to 2. Hours and loss of weekends was their worse negative, they may have been reserved in telling me all. Still beats my line of work. Thanks again
In this video, you (tresstelg1) demonstrate how all the signals work and how they work in order according to the light of the pole. This is a very good education for people with a lack of knowledge to see how the trains work and their signals. This is not an easy work according to the driver of the train. Well done.
Thanks! You may be interested in other videos ‘Melbourne Train Signals Explained’ and ‘Driver’s View City to Frankston after 2016-18.....’
I remember RAAF Williams ... yeah. Also, that approach to the sidings has changed massively since 😬
Most of that space was sidings for the Steamrail and Museum people. 😬
Have to really pay attention to the signals and their sighting thereof ... busy as 😮
Thanks for the video, thoroughly enjoyed it. 😎
👍
I love the Werribee line. ❤️
I trust that means you use it fairly often 😊
I have overheard that all Altona Loop services now terminate at Laverton unfortunately, if u wanna enjoy via the loop from Werribee. But otherwise i guess it may be good news for Werribee to Laverton peeps as they get the express to Newport. Sometimes limited express to Footscray via Newport.
VincentKoh LUMCFan There is nothing to overhear. I have already posted the Altona line and it ends at Laverton. If you check the public timetable I think you will find the ride is Laverton via Altona daytime weekdays, and at that time, Werribee via the old Geelong Main Line. Other times it is Werribee via Altona.
tressteleg1 icic. I was confused as my friend told me all services including odd timings, all trains on the loop terminate at Laverton xD
VincentKoh LUMCFan When you’ hear odd rumours, it is always wise to do some research. Looking at the timetable was the clue in this case.
great video tressteleg1 :)
It looks like I will have to try very hard to make a video which you DONT like 😊
I was pretty silly that time not to ride the limited express skipping the Altona Loop and all stations Newport to Footscray...I decided to try the Altona Loop but didnt know it would have occurred more frequently gg
Who would dislike this?”
The same brain-dead moron who dislikes every one of my videos within minutes of it being posted. I don’t imagine that the F...wit even looks at any of them.
I agree he is brain-dead
He needs to go to school
It would have to be a vegan feminist greenie cyclist.
tressteleg1 wait can you actually see who likes or dislikes your videos, pardon my ignorance.
Great video! Maybe a bit les zoom in? Thanks for adding the signal explenations. Question: I noted that at the signals at 14:18 (red/yellow) and 15:40 (red/red) there is a grid in the track. A grid that looks like the British TPWS grid. Is it something like it that controls the speed of the train here? Tnx for sharing.
Axle counters. They use it to detect the position of trains for the signals instead of a track circuit.
@@petercheems8118 Ok. Thanks for answering. But only these two signals are fitted with this detection device. The rest works with track circuit then?
Most likely. Those through sidings are reasonably new. So they might have just put them in there when they rejigged the signals for the sidings. There's usually a sign that says start axle counters or end axle counters but maybe because it's only two signals they didn't bother.
Note the responses from Peter F. Note also that the centre and right tracks are bidirectional suburban tracks and so the axle counters may be more important than usual. It’s quite possible that some freight trains use this track as well. The left track is standard gauge and also bidirectional.
I like how the Werribee line is one of the fastest cuz it’s one of the straightest. Meanwhile Hurstbridge line owo
Werribee is the main line to Geelong. Altona used to be a dead end branch to Altona.
tressteleg1 wait I thought V/Line goes via Wyndham Vale?
VincentKoh LUMCFan Yes it does. I don’t have a VLine driver to take videos for me.
tressteleg1 oh I was just confused cuz the Werribee line does not pass through Wyndham Vale, while it is shown differently on the PTV map
VincentKoh LUMCFan The lines physically join but the electric trains end before they meet the Geelong line. I’m not impressed.
Why does driver sound horn every time train passes white x on the line
Because the law says he/she must. Mostly it is because of a road or foot crossing not real far ahead.
@@tressteleg1 , is the x in the circle on the sg line at 3:42 a 'blow horn' sign too?
I would,think so but don’t know,why the SG must whistle,but presumably not the BG.
@JS317Productions , does the difference relate to the difference in stopping distances compared to passenger trains (like n and ns for speeds) that is, it is further from the upcoming crossing or whatever than the bg cross sign. or a sign that is different because it is the same sign as that in other states and therefore an attempt at nationwide sign standardisation?
The better train won? lol let's hook the same amount of weight and go again, heck you can even have the extra two engines.
Admittedly i'm a novice here but....
green = go
yellow = go
red = go until next signal
Blue = stop!
I think i'm stick to regular old road traffic lights!
He goes over this in an earlier video. Green means next signal at proceed. Yellow next signal at stop. Either color over a red means track speed. Under a red means 40kph. Yellow over green means slow to 40 by next signal and obviously red over red is stop. A single Blue is for sidings only and means stop. Red is also used in sidings.
See the other reply. The video he mentions is ‘Melbourne Train Signals Explained’. Maybe it will help.
Two years later and the ancient diesels still going strong. Even delivering.. but we won't go there.
😊👍
Why did Paisley station close? Low passenger numbers?
Ask Wikipedia.
tressteleg1 found a lot of great insight, though now I feel Altona North needs a stop
You can see one of my workplaces at 4:48. Won’t say which one though. 😉👍
Nothing illegal I hope 😊
People say werribee is feral and I tend to agree in some places but fuck I miss living there
People with ‘Character’ 😄
@@tressteleg1 oh yeah that goes without saying haha but still not as much 'Character' as Laverton
What is the difference between the ‘NS’ and ‘N’ signs?
Vincent Weatherly Norman speed and Normal 🤷♂️
Jason Bligh, thanks, now what is the difference between this 2?
Dubbed Tracks
They both mean normal speed. NS for a 6 Car or less train, and N for more than 6 cars.
Yes I think it is explained at the end of the Frankston Complete. The N is mostly for longer freight Trains.
Plz can u make a Cranbourne line video at somepoint
Aryan Sugar on top
Just a thought... Is it possible for trains to run on tram tracks and vice-versa?
Most certainly not in Victoria! Trams run on Standard Gauge, trains 5’ 3” or 1600 mm.
not when the gauge is different
I was thinking (yeah don 't laugh) that the BG signal is on the right so as to not confuse the SG drivers.
Ha Ha... yes I also noticed that some signals were on the ‘wrong’ side. I have no idea why.
Signals located on the right are fairly common, it's usually for sighting reasons. If you watch from about 10:45 you'll see that the one at Galvin would have been obscured by overhead wiring poles if it had been located on the left. This way it's visible from much further away.
Thanks. Live and learn. Nevertheless I don’t ever recall seeing a right side signal in Sydney, but maybe I have forgotten from so long ago. If anything they probably would have put a repeater of some sort further back.
@@tressteleg1 Yes I haven't noticed any in Sydney either, although they do put signals on the right of the right hand track in bi-directional areas. The policy in Melbourne seems to change frequently, in 2013 several new signals on the Hurstbridge line were placed on the right, but over the last few years it's become much more popular to have co-acting signals. Another situation that happens here due to our sparks being driver only, is sometimes the signal is located on the right to be closer to the SPOT monitor, so the driver can easily see the signal while also watching the platform. Greensborough platform 1 on the up is an example of this.
wow the tracks look like they have had some serious improvements put into them. not soo much clickty clack as usual
Bit by bit things get done.
The only problem, Why do people think they need to zoom in? It stuff the actual speed of the trains doing that. No need to zoom In better if you dont, Train looks like its doing 10 to 15km/h
I am not the cameraman. I am very grateful that my friend is willing to risk his job by taking these videos for me to process. I am certainly not going to criticise his camerawork. He could easily decide to do these no longer, and then where would we be?
@@tressteleg1 perhaps it should stop then. If you are risking your job then it should stop. If he asked for permission then it wouldn't be an issue. I know some of these states will allow filming but under strict conditions.
As I said above, I am not the cameraman, or a train driver or a person permitted into the cab. The Rail Safety Act says no electronic devices in the cab (but with talking on a phone while driving being the main intent). That is why I am always vague about the dates or any other info which could lead to his detection, assuming Metro is looking for him. Maybe they don’t care, but who knows?
When can u do a Cranbourne line video
When I get something to post 😊. Maybe next summer....
Okie
the metro train normal speed from werriben to northpot station
I like that way better it saves u going to Newport station changing ends & then taking the train into Newport I like there thinking lol
This was an empty cars run. With passengers it would have to unload them at Newport first.
@@tressteleg1 yeah I understand that I was saying it was easier going in that way then the other way u know what I mean
😊
Matthew Massarotti there are still lots of sidings at Newport that requires such a move.
Wonderful aerodynamics of the comeng set NOT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
10/10
👍😊
I got your email about confusing standard gauge drivers but as often happens, I can’t find your words in CZcams itself.
Nevertheless SG drivers should know the road well enough to not become confused with BG signals. That still does not explain why they are on the wrong side. Here and there in these videos I have seen other places where the signals are on the right.
Yes , the drivers should know the road but I was thinking along the lines (no pun intended) a driver could become disorientated at night.As an aside the single line between Albury , where I live, and Wagga Wagga has several crossing loops. All the loops have "main linë" or, i think "crossing loop" , on the respective loops.
8:49 omg
Yes, ridiculously slow for a gentle sweeping curve.
There's the doppler effect
🙂