After Forever on De Muziekfabriek (2003) - My Choice, Beneath, & Monolith of Doubt

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  • After Forever performing their songs "My Choice," "Beneath," and "Monolith of Doubt" on the L1 program De Muziekfabriek at the Alfa Brewery in Schinnen, Netherlands, on November 23, 2003
    (Note: the broadcast only shows a minute or so of Monolith of Doubt)
    This content was produced by L1 Limburg and can be found on their website at this location: l1.nl/muziekfabriek-classic-m...

Komentáře • 96

  • @Nikkopagani
    @Nikkopagani Před 3 lety +34

    After forever, the band that deserved a concert high quality DVD with an orchestra. Theres almost just fan footage on internet 😓

    • @GalaxyKauri2008Offtopic
      @GalaxyKauri2008Offtopic Před měsícem +1

      Yes, they didn't even had a DVD :(
      When they have concerts that deserved had it: Lowlands 2007, Wacken 2004, Pinkpop 2004 or Rio de Janeiro 2006

  • @pietkeizer5279
    @pietkeizer5279 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I discovered this performance in 2023. But…..what a jewel. A young Floor so good here. What a treasure.

    • @lillianekockritz2796
      @lillianekockritz2796 Před měsícem

      Me in 2024 - really a jewel! There should have been a recording of the whole concert (if it was one). And Floor's proud parents in the crowd made an extra. They really must be proud to have two such highly talented daughters (Floor's younger sister Irene decided to prefer family life but sometimes joins for example Arjen Lucassen's Ayreon).

  • @giselameyer2814
    @giselameyer2814 Před 4 lety +11

    FLOOR the best female Singer of our Times..

  • @ayelenmarcial
    @ayelenmarcial Před rokem +4

    La mejor cantante del género!!!

  • @reddrummaster
    @reddrummaster Před 4 lety +19

    haha great to see her mom and dad front row!! so dedicated

    • @kjvail
      @kjvail Před 3 lety

      OK, maybe. I think of the AF album Invisible Circles, which Floor wrote. It's a concept album about a little girl raised by horrible, selfish and abusive parents. I wonder where the inspiration came from

  • @JuliaDark
    @JuliaDark Před 9 měsíci +2

    Wonderful!🤟

  • @The_Pony
    @The_Pony Před 5 lety +17

    awww her parents in the audience look so so proud

    • @maxmattt
      @maxmattt Před 5 lety +6

      And you gotta love the little boy throwing the horns 🤘

  • @lmbergamini
    @lmbergamini Před 6 lety +35

    she has evolved so much! Her technique is much more developed now. But still, she was already great back in the days. :D

    • @jazzysugar3777
      @jazzysugar3777 Před 6 lety +13

      L Bergamini she started on a very high level already

  • @DanasLilMakeup
    @DanasLilMakeup Před 3 lety +3

    Oh to be 15 again... these songs marked my youth and some of the best yet most darkest days. My Choice was one of those songs I used to listen in those bad days and I still reach out to it when I feel down.

  • @AriaMohtadiHaghighi
    @AriaMohtadiHaghighi Před 2 lety +2

    Basically fell in love with Floor upon watching her perform with After Forever and then ReVamp. And then she of course became the legend that we know. Thanks for this upload.

  • @laudatosiadastra1218
    @laudatosiadastra1218 Před 3 lety +3

    Floor has the most beautiful voice I have ever heard. If there was ever such thing as perfection, she is it :)

  • @alexandraagudelo8007
    @alexandraagudelo8007 Před 3 lety +10

    How I miss After Forever. I love Floor's voice! Of course now I listen to her in Nightwish, but I would prefer her in After Forever

  • @fabianmoralesgt
    @fabianmoralesgt Před 3 lety +1

    I love how it sounds as she gets winded a little bit but never fails to hit the notes and makes necessary adjustments to pull it off. Phenomenal!

  • @cahh_azevedo
    @cahh_azevedo Před 4 lety +27

    floor sempre foi maior que todas as bandas que participou
    a voz dessa mulher é a coisa mais perfeita do mundo

    • @ramontravis5191
      @ramontravis5191 Před 2 lety

      i guess Im asking randomly but does anybody know of a way to log back into an Instagram account??
      I was dumb lost the account password. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

    • @alessandroweston4868
      @alessandroweston4868 Před 2 lety

      @Ramon Travis Instablaster :)

  • @maxmattt
    @maxmattt Před 5 lety +14

    The band sounded amazing, Floor sounded ( And looked 😍 ) amazing, what a performance, she really knows how to play for the camera, and Floor's parents in the audience looking so proud of their daughter.
    Shame it cuts out part way through Monolith Of Doubt.

  • @vasylr1538
    @vasylr1538 Před 5 lety +7

    Floor, you are before, now and AFTER FOREVER!!!!

  • @EvSymphony
    @EvSymphony Před 3 lety +13

    ha sido la mejor vocalista desde los 90, desde la misma época de Tarja, Anneke, Liv o vivikke, pero nunca fue valorada ni reconocida hasta su llegada a Nightwish.

  • @fredericenjalbert7664
    @fredericenjalbert7664 Před 3 lety +1

    Saw them in Montpellier south of france in 2005..great memories ..floor went in the audience to see playin Nightmare a french band before them for a few minutes and after the show of her band to dedicate and to talk on the merchandising place .i still have my ticket with her autograph :)...really a beautiful and good person..she is so fantastic with nightwish

  • @laurensrulkens4185
    @laurensrulkens4185 Před 4 lety +3

    Still amazing After (Forever) 15 Years....

  • @eversonassuncao9153
    @eversonassuncao9153 Před 6 lety +21

    Floor sempre foi a mais incrível!!!

  • @ferrenberg
    @ferrenberg Před 6 lety +96

    Floor is simply the best female singer of all time. And I don't say as it as a Nightwish fan. Although I like Nightwish and find the old songs with her much better, I prefer and love After Forever and ReVamp. Sadly the album Nightwish released with her was incredibly boring, but the live performance at Wacken 2013 is one of the best ever.

    • @AnUnhingedMind
      @AnUnhingedMind Před 6 lety +18

      I think a lot of people would find this blasphemous to say, but I've always enjoyed After Forever much more than Nightwish. I also enjoy Floor Jansen's voice much more than Tarja. Tarja and Nightwish are clearly very talented and have both respectively made incredible music over the years. However, there was something about After Forever's music that I found a lot more mature and versatile; versatile is a word I would use to sum up Floor's voice as well. I absolutely agree with you that Endless Forms Most Beautiful was nowhere near as powerful as it potentially could've been. It felt as if they played it way too safe with Floor's voice and focused too much on making her sound "pretty" than really letting loose like she clearly has the potential to do.

    • @ferrenberg
      @ferrenberg Před 6 lety +13

      AnUnhingedMind it's not blasphemous at all. After Forever had its own fanbase since their first album, which they released the around the same time Nightwish released their debut.
      Both bands always shared significant part of their fans, although they were - in my opinion - different, mostly because they are/were different bands.
      Ever since I heard Follow in the Cry many years ago, they have been one of my favorite bands. After they broke up, most fans were happy with new Epica albums, the closest thing to After Forever for obvious reasons.
      And like you said, Floor is the best. Since the first After Forever album, and she only progressed to the best - in my opinion - female vocalist ever. She's much better than Tarja and Simone Simons (I like both too), and that's one of the reasons I found her album with Nightwish boring.
      The songs in that album are good, and would've been better with Floor being Floor. We as After Forever fans already knew what she could do, I think that's why most of us don't give a damn about Endless Forms.

    • @scw55
      @scw55 Před 5 lety +2

      @@AnUnhingedMind that said, personally Endless Forms Most Beautiful is my favourite album. I agree they could have given her more to do. At least their live shows give that.

    • @liricobarroco
      @liricobarroco Před 4 lety +4

      Vinícius Ferrenberg I prefer After forever too, because Tuomas can’t make songs for Floor voice, listen her singing AF she’s amazing! She goes high and beautiful low ❤️

    • @ralfmeyer9086
      @ralfmeyer9086 Před 4 lety +1

      @@liricobarroco yes i absoluy agree..

  • @eduardopicapiedra9696
    @eduardopicapiedra9696 Před 4 lety +2

    Nunca había escuchado Beneath en vivo me encanto !! rayos esas rolas me hacen sentir mucha nostalgia

  • @ralfmeyer9086
    @ralfmeyer9086 Před 4 lety +2

    Omg FLOOR so great with After Forever🤣🤗😊

  • @mikinhalingeron
    @mikinhalingeron Před 3 lety +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! OH MY I MISS AFTER FOREVER SO MUCH! FLOOR HAS ALWAYS BEEN SO TALENTED AND MORE PEOPLE ARE FINALLY HAVING A CHANCE TO SEE THAT THANKS TO NIGHTWISH!

  • @ferdinandt2060
    @ferdinandt2060 Před 3 lety +1

    Floor é incrível! Não há outra cantora que mais me surpreende como ela. A banda é espetacular.

  • @leonardobalbino8482
    @leonardobalbino8482 Před 5 lety +8

    Saudades dessa Floor ♥️

    • @anapaula.almeida
      @anapaula.almeida Před 4 lety

      Eu sempre digo que ela na After Forever e Revamp é espetacular.

  • @tonyelsom6382
    @tonyelsom6382 Před 5 lety +3

    Ahh..those Abba eyes...very 70's. Floor sounds amazing here....NW should really make use of that wonderful, flexible, not to mention powerful voice even more than they do currently...

  • @addhoc256
    @addhoc256 Před 4 lety +34

    The internet arrived just in time for symphonic rock. Within Tempation and After Forever were completely ignored on meanstream media: it was too far out of the box for them.( It must have taken a lot of guts to stay true to this quirky style.) Rock bands were the first to embrace youtube completely, and also rock magazines and interviews started as soon as everyone had some kind of internet connection. And this music was always lend out in the music library: there was a waitinglist. and people making copies because we didnt have money to buy it so 1 person would copy and that person had many more friend all of a suddon. If you were a guy and you wanted a date you would give her a copy of a 'girl metal' cd of symphonic metal. / I have never seen a band so full of the kind of talent that could so easily been turned into something commercial - and they just didnt. They could easily just record an easy listening song with 4x4 verse and hook chorus: but no they had to not follow any mold and make as many unlogical twists and tune changes as possible and have lyrics about morals and so. (But the thing was: after you had heard monolyth of doubt you couldnt go back to normal music anymore. I didnt like the unnessesary complexity, but it did produce the best songs and you got used to it. Its an acquired taste. Instead of punk (oversimplified songs ) this was overly complexified made so that you could never just repeat it after hearing it a few time : it was a kind of punk i guess into the other side of the spectrum: against mainstream.

    • @waltersauerwein8619
      @waltersauerwein8619 Před 4 lety +3

      I'm on my husband's account and I'm a 55 year old woman. I've been listening to symphonic rock/metal opera since 2005 and have never understood why it's not more popular especially in the United States. None of my friends or family like it. I think it's absolutely perfect music and singing besides some songs having guys 'growling;' I can't stand that; they sound like Satan. Lol. This genre didn't have to grow on me in the least; I loved it from the very first time I heard it and that band happened to be Nightwish. Which of course Floor is now the lead singer of. I loved how she sang more operatic in her previous bands and so wish she would do that more in NW. I think Floor has the most beautiful voice ever of anyone, hands down.
      I've always loved orchestras, rock, metal, and opera so when it's all combined I'm in absolute heaven! I've discovered so many of these bands and buy new CDs which I know is old-fashioned but I love listening to music that way and I want to support the bands financially. Yes, thank goodness for the Internet or I may have never heard this genre before. Even though it's been in my head most of my life!

    • @jannezxzoerden5810
      @jannezxzoerden5810 Před 3 lety

      Walter Sauerwein y

    • @jannezxzoerden5810
      @jannezxzoerden5810 Před 3 lety

      Oh yes!!!

    • @jannezxzoerden5810
      @jannezxzoerden5810 Před 3 lety

      Walter Sauerwein wrong!

    • @jannezxzoerden5810
      @jannezxzoerden5810 Před 3 lety

      Yes!!!

  • @liricobarroco
    @liricobarroco Před 4 lety +13

    They were amazing band doom gothic metal band, I hope Thomas make better vocal parts for Floor in the new cd, because the last it’s too easy to sing for her!
    Well it’s great to have After forever entire discography on Spotify

  • @sporella
    @sporella Před 6 lety +3

    😭 thanks!!!!

  • @ciroheadbanger2008
    @ciroheadbanger2008 Před 3 lety +1

    Brazil Netherlands 2021 someone?

  • @celioazevedoofficial
    @celioazevedoofficial Před 2 lety +2

    Floor gorgeous!

  • @Jeremias-zq3um
    @Jeremias-zq3um Před 3 měsíci

    Is it not the choosing that makes the life we live so intricate?
    Are the options we have too endless to control?
    Can we oversee the offers and their demands and their goals?
    Can we oversee our own needs if we do not know
    What it is we really want?
    Our minds, instead of our hearts
    What we feel confuses our thoughts
    Security, an ancient quest
    Standing alone, the ultimate test
    Still we search for warmth in the materialized luxuries in life
    The times have changed but we are still the same
    Another choice 'cause we still don't know
    Let me see where I belong
    Let me be a little part of it
    Can I choose my way in life?
    Can I dream, can I feel, could I know my choice?
    A choice without the illusion that luck is for sale
    'cause I have all that money can buy
    A choice means freedom
    And endless options
    Can we survey that?
    Can freedom be controlled?
    The option's bitter
    It leaves a part of you behind the borders of your choice
    Let me see where I belong
    Let me be a little part of it
    Can I choose my way in life?
    Can I dream, can I feel, could I know my choice?
    Let me see where I belong
    Let me be a little part of it
    Can I choose my way in life?
    Can I dream, can I feel, could I know my choice?

  • @remagine
    @remagine Před 6 lety +11

    Haha she was about to end My Choice a lil earlier... still amazing omg

  • @Catgirl6Poezebeest
    @Catgirl6Poezebeest Před 3 lety +23

    @5:47 Hahaha, that's me! Great memories!!

  • @carlaraiele2469
    @carlaraiele2469 Před 6 lety +4

    perfeita bons tempos

  • @gabbrielviera
    @gabbrielviera Před 6 lety +5

    that was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @YkcirL
    @YkcirL Před 2 lety +1

    Saudades

  • @isaflechas
    @isaflechas Před 3 lety

    Watching in 2020. Is not just a floor fan since 2003... her hair flows that way naturally 🤣 🤘

  • @remagine
    @remagine Před rokem +2

    I miss this Floor

  • @johnsoma6485
    @johnsoma6485 Před 5 lety +10

    Ha Ha Ha and Floor's mom at 7:52!!!

  • @KalvinEllis
    @KalvinEllis Před 3 lety

    8:12 The definition of "raising them right".

  • @FutileGrief
    @FutileGrief Před 6 lety

    I FUCKING LOVE YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR UPLOADING!!!!!

    • @pastelmetal8111
      @pastelmetal8111  Před 6 lety

      ThatOnePerson No problem! :) I love this performance so much - wish I could have gotten it to upload in 480p instead of 360p, but for some reason CZcams refused.

  • @fabiorogers9817
    @fabiorogers9817 Před 3 lety +1

    I love Floor Jansen.

  • @madddog6790
    @madddog6790 Před 6 lety +5

    Ah, the (in)famous catsuit :) wubba wubba

  • @yuribotello3170
    @yuribotello3170 Před 6 lety +6

    PQ MATARAM MINHA FLOOR?

  • @spacepirate9882
    @spacepirate9882 Před 3 lety +1

    8:05 The smiling while the background lyrics are so serious is so weird lol

  • @monsieurclaudesac1545
    @monsieurclaudesac1545 Před 5 lety +1

    8:11 kleine baas

  • @roniboy
    @roniboy Před 5 lety +2

    Como assim interromperam Monolith na melhor parte.... Broxante!!! Mas o vídeo é maravilhoso!!

  • @yenyfercarapiapuebla8450
    @yenyfercarapiapuebla8450 Před 5 lety +1

    Ese aire no le hace daño a su garganta al cantar ?

  • @johnsoma6485
    @johnsoma6485 Před 5 lety +6

    At 5:48 is that Floor's dad?

  • @powskier
    @powskier Před 4 lety

    I never understood why these bands don't play in their native language. This concert is obviously in Europe.

    • @juyifan7933
      @juyifan7933 Před 3 lety +2

      Metal is a niche community, but it is global. Many metal bands make more success outside their country than within. Making music in english is the standard for metal, with a few notable exceptions. The reason is obvious, you dont want to reach just the little metal audience in your country, you want to reach the entire global metal community.
      For instance After Forever wasn't very well known in the netherlands, where metal is not at all popular. They had however quite decent audience in Latin America. They also had some audience in Nordic countries, where the genre of Symphonic Metal is reasonably popular.

    • @powskier
      @powskier Před 3 lety

      @@juyifan7933 Makes sense.

  • @Dhaos620
    @Dhaos620 Před 2 lety

    This guitarist went to Épica afterwards, didn't he?

    • @maxmattt
      @maxmattt Před 7 měsíci

      He had already left, I think.

  • @barbatosmikazuki4250
    @barbatosmikazuki4250 Před 2 lety +3

    I prefer Floor at Af and Revamp than at NW
    I never heard Nw album with floor as the vocalis

  • @corneliusantonius3108
    @corneliusantonius3108 Před 4 lety

    Insert Marcel Fisser Band = Succes

  • @SASTORM
    @SASTORM Před 3 lety +1

    why da f*** did they edit the video in one of their best songs?
    great times, great band, Floor is too good for today´s NW

  • @mundoinformatica9796
    @mundoinformatica9796 Před 4 lety

    unfortunately in live it does not have the same force as the subject of study expected those high register of voice but very weak voice

  • @JeanetteEvanFan
    @JeanetteEvanFan Před 2 lety

    ¿Me parece o escucho la voz cansada de Floor?¿Alguien más escucha lo mismo?

  • @marchon2578
    @marchon2578 Před 4 lety

    fLOOR BEFORE SHE JOINED NW AND BECAME POP DIVA

    • @maxmattt
      @maxmattt Před 4 lety +7

      Ok troll

    • @marchon2578
      @marchon2578 Před 4 lety +1

      @@maxmattt ... i'd rather be a "troll " than a slavish Tuomas' s cult zombie...how do you like Floor's headbanging in the new mood setting/folk styling , flute toting , pop band formerly known as Nightcrap..oh sorry Nightwish ...the two names are so synonymous...its just sad

    • @giselameyer2814
      @giselameyer2814 Před 4 lety +7

      troll

    • @marchon2578
      @marchon2578 Před 3 lety +1

      @SteveNL ...Tarja used a very low, mezzo register until roughly 2003, at which time she assumed a higher timbre..yet when called for such as on kinslayer, end of all hope, 10th man down, pharaoh sails to orion, wishmaster, deep silent complete, sleeping sun etc...she came through beatifully...in 2005, GLS in Tarja era was calculated by Tuomas to be a softer, blending higher register delivery..check out Tarja in Kinslayer, wishmaster, planet hell, slaying the dreamer for much more punding delivery...Floor was a beast in AF and REvamp and to great extent in wacken 2013, but then she just became mainstream on most Tarja songs..and can you honestly tell me that on the last two albums her voice is even close to metallic?