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    0:00 Sponsor
    1:25 Intro
    1:43 The Golden Throne M41
    14:04 The Dark Age of Technology
    18:57 Glass Thrones
    36:50 The Emperor Ascendent
    48:52 Ultimate Purpose
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  • @Luetin09
    @Luetin09  Před 4 měsíci +383

    A deep dive on the Golden Throne seemed long overdue, especially with the End and the Death of the Emperor upon us. Do LIKE the video if you enjoyed, and share your own thoughts about him below. Thanks again to Noble Chairs for the amazing 40K Edition chair: www.noblechairs.co.uk/en-gb/warhammer40k

    • @gbadspcps2
      @gbadspcps2 Před 4 měsíci +10

      Here come all the people about to disagree with you despite not having watched even 5 minutes into the video.

    • @starwarstimeline
      @starwarstimeline Před 4 měsíci +7

      Of all your fantastic videos that were a total gateway to 40K universe for me, the Emperor series is by far the most lore-rich. Thank you!

    • @Mickey_Valentine
      @Mickey_Valentine Před 4 měsíci +4

      Excellent -- couldnt wish a better upload for a Saturday evening
      Cheers Luetin

    • @bigdaddy_bo6741
      @bigdaddy_bo6741 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yooo, thank you for making my day, Luetin. I adore Emperor lore!!!

    • @notbob8252
      @notbob8252 Před 4 měsíci +2

      You know another way of looking at what happens to psykers is that they're all brought together as one Mass
      Instead of acting like they're screaming they could be singing harmoniously with one voice

  • @humanoblivion2968
    @humanoblivion2968 Před 4 měsíci +3494

    Would it be beneficial to attach a text to speech device on the throne perhaps? 🤔

    • @mindfortress105
      @mindfortress105 Před 4 měsíci +137

      if he could text that would be good enough

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 Před 4 měsíci +323

      Sounds interesting, one could make many fun episodes about it.

    • @JoeNeutrino
      @JoeNeutrino Před 4 měsíci +252

      I don't think GW would like that very much.

    • @Joseph-mw2rl
      @Joseph-mw2rl Před 4 měsíci +74

      ​@@nobleman9393And get demolished by GW

    • @jbclaytor
      @jbclaytor Před 4 měsíci

      Lube me up and cover me in oil, that's a great idea.

  • @yaelz6043
    @yaelz6043 Před 4 měsíci +1691

    As I sit here, trapped upon my porcelain throne, I feel a kinship with the emperor of man.

  • @rictusmetallicus
    @rictusmetallicus Před 4 měsíci +599

    Administratum imprisoning me
    All that I see
    Absolute horror
    I cannot live
    I cannot die
    Trapped in myself
    Body my holding cell
    Horus has taken my sight
    Taken my speech
    Taken my hearing
    Taken my arms
    Taken my legs
    Taken my soul
    Left me with life in hell
    -Emp, Metallicus, 41.988

    • @fbussier80
      @fbussier80 Před 4 měsíci +8

      Get an AI to replace the lyrics and sign this.

    • @thrashandburn10221
      @thrashandburn10221 Před 4 měsíci +26

      Bolts in the air
      Strapped in the golden chair
      Chaos's tides controlling me

    • @Guaguadeath
      @Guaguadeath Před 4 měsíci +2

      That was great 😂 🤘🤘

    • @dualityomk9854
      @dualityomk9854 Před 4 měsíci +3

      It would be M2 988

    • @wymanrtaylor
      @wymanrtaylor Před 4 měsíci +9

      “Administratum” has way too many syllables to replace “darkness.” Maybe “Chaos” instead?

  • @Obiwan7100
    @Obiwan7100 Před 4 měsíci +726

    If every 1000 Psykers were sacrificed per day in 10,000 Years
    The Golden Throne would already absorb the souls of 3.25 billion Psykers.

    • @QixTheDS
      @QixTheDS Před 4 měsíci +133

      Pretty tiny when you think about it.

    • @Obiwan7100
      @Obiwan7100 Před 4 měsíci +113

      ​@@QixTheDSYes, the IoM has a population of Quadrillions of humans and Abhumans, for the modern scale of the earth it is something gigantic bigger than the population of China and India combined, but for a galactic government with more than 1 million planets it is something small.

    • @tobyjimmy7194
      @tobyjimmy7194 Před 4 měsíci +50

      Good observation.
      I once did the math and thought in the grand scheme of things, that number ain't so high after all.

    • @endymionmikel4022
      @endymionmikel4022 Před 4 měsíci +18

      and its certainly more than 1000, when vulcan is considering during the end and the death 2 how many have been used he says that used during the unspoken sanction is a fraction of that used via sigil to sustain malcador

    • @lwo7736
      @lwo7736 Před 4 měsíci +60

      Israel: **jealousy intensifies**

  • @JorPanzer
    @JorPanzer Před 4 měsíci +365

    Ive literally been deep diving on the lore of the golden throne just this last week, now Luetin provides something coherent. The Emperor really does protect.

    • @DiabloDelMer1
      @DiabloDelMer1 Před 4 měsíci +8

      The Emperor Provides.

    • @IgnoranceisYourStrength.
      @IgnoranceisYourStrength. Před 4 měsíci +1

      Same here!

    • @evanabbott2737
      @evanabbott2737 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I wish he’d get healed already.

    • @henrytoledo4103
      @henrytoledo4103 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@evanabbott2737GW is on a 20 year plan. First bring all the Primarchs back that can
      back. Second bring Emporer back. Third Unite all planets with scattered human and human sub species such as the Squats. Fourth build up a vast army with Primaris, zenos allies, human subspecies, limited ancient tech (Men of Aluminum, lesser than Men of Iron but still quite capable, lol), non-evil warp entities or as yet unknown species. Fifth War with Chaos and after significant losses they Triumph. Sixth with the vast amount of psychic warp energy being used ,( thrown around), more are attracted from outside the galaxy and begin to debour it. Seventh the Emporer ascends to God hood and wins

    • @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork
      @Splatterpunk_OldNewYork Před 4 měsíci

      The Emperor Sits....a lot.

  • @themetroidprime
    @themetroidprime Před 4 měsíci +244

    The way the Emperor managed to possess Guilliman while in Nurgle's garden, only to scare the later enough to make him *hide* in his mansion while burning away a huge chunk of the garden *and* teabagging the God *and* telling him to warn the other 3 about how Big E is tired of their shit shows the Throne, combined with the worship of quadrillions for 10000 years really is a power amplifier rising the Emperor's soul to the level of a God.

    • @DaniMol
      @DaniMol Před 4 měsíci +30

      "It's not His power, it's what He does with it" 😭

    • @user-rg4sn9by7w
      @user-rg4sn9by7w Před 4 měsíci

      Hundreds of trillions each day*
      There are over 100 billion stars and as many planets in the galaxy. With the Imperium occupying 90% of it and having tens of billions populating each, that gives you total population of over 1*10^21. A combination of the mightiest human psyker ever, the mightiest "THRONE device" ever and the continuous ten thousand year long daily worship of him by sextillions uncounted means that nothing can stop the Big E after the Great Rift.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 Před 4 měsíci +9

      That was actually bad idea and bad writing.

    • @venga3
      @venga3 Před 4 měsíci

      What the hell are you even talking about?

    • @bdpc-dk2xb
      @bdpc-dk2xb Před 4 měsíci +16

      @@venga3since he already spoiled it, it’s from Godblight. In the final battle Mortarion transports Gulliman to Nurgles garden and straight kills him. The Emperor immediately possesses Gulliman’s body, talks mad shit to Nurgle and burns down his garden. Then at some point he presumably healed Gulliman who just got his ass stomped and killed by a sickness that Chaos spent three books preparing.

  • @justinkroboth360
    @justinkroboth360 Před 4 měsíci +70

    The "sire, would you care for some refreshment?" bit was hilarious - I was in stitches. It was something I hadn't thought about in quite such terms, but good lord, that's fantastic. Wonderful work as always, LT.

    • @AmandaTroutman
      @AmandaTroutman Před 2 měsíci +2

      I don't know about anyone else but it sounded like he wanted an ice water... No lemon.

  • @vmycode5142
    @vmycode5142 Před 4 měsíci +131

    I really enjoy these videos exploring the more "base" elements of 40k so to speak, sure covering nieche topics is fun and all but sometimes it is just refreshing to learn more about things that sit at the core of the genre and we sometimes just take for granted. Definately looking forward to more stuff regardless what topic it is though.

  • @harbec4941
    @harbec4941 Před 4 měsíci +149

    I think the Emperor is tied inexorably to the throne. When his webway plan was undone by Magnus, he saw the sitting on the Golden Throne as the last resort. He knew ascending it would be his damnation. Forever bound to it in order to preserve humanity. With the whole Molech thing, it seems he made a deal with the other Chaos gods. He gained power by dealing/cheating them. I believe the current situation is a result of his deal. He never wanted to be god or be worshiped as one. That's the tragic turn. He has no other option but to rely on the faith of humanity. He hates this. But he is not blind to the reality of the situation. If he doesn't use the faith of humanity, then he dies. Humanity dies. So instead, he accepts the worship. His only chance of success is to become a god. To go against what he detested at the beginning. It's the ultimate irony. In order to win, you have to give up what you could never agree to lose. In choosing divinity, the big e bound himself to the same rules as the other chaos gods. He became what he detested. He is now part of the great game. A god vying for worship and power. Humanity was doomed from this point. By worshiping the Emperor, we became nothing more than the followers of Chaos. The imperium simply chose the Emperor instead of the other gods. I think this is what the chaos gods may have wanted. They saw the big e as an opportunity to bring in another player to the Great Game. Magnus' role would then obviously be the most important. His breaching of the barriers to the webway project being the defining moment and even the entire purpose of the Horus Heresy from the perspective of Chaos.

    • @KiwiSpartan01
      @KiwiSpartan01 Před 4 měsíci +6

      This does makes sense

    • @Blaze4364
      @Blaze4364 Před 4 měsíci +12

      I've been thinking similarly on the topic of Big E and the deal he made with the Chaos gods for a while because it just makes too much sense.
      What other deal could all 4 possibly make with a human other than to equally gain/lose a portion of their power via a new player? A new player who I'm certain all 4 would believe they could each beat individually, and take his power for themselves.

    • @AndrewPeaceMaker
      @AndrewPeaceMaker Před 4 měsíci +1

      Tl dr he became the dark king eventually even if he dodnt mean to at first. On behest of his first warmaster

    • @lightpoint4426
      @lightpoint4426 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I'm reading the Horus Heresy books and a huge chunk of this is all but directly stated. I say 'all but' because there's an 'unreliable narrator' factor (chaos servants soooooo....) but it makes a lot of sense. I have limited sympathy for him, however...why in the actual fuck did he deal with the Chaos gods? Surely he'd have to know that there would be consequences. And nobody knowing what the hell Chaos even is (and the Imperium suppressing the information despite it already having wreaked havoc allllll over the galaxy) certainly didn't help.

    • @barahng
      @barahng Před 4 měsíci

      40k Theories has a great video speculating on that topic. There's actually a lot of other evidence pointing to Big E being effectively a Warp God like the Legion of the Damned essentially being daemons and the fact he can posess people and grant them powers.

  • @gabrielauld2896
    @gabrielauld2896 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Oh my goodness, I really enjoy the specific humor that comes with deep lore, the bit at 20:18 about the custodes asking if the emperor wants a drink is so goddamn funny and so incredibly specific. I feel like I heard a great joke in some archaic language that only I and sixty five other 40K professors understand

  • @jerrys1923
    @jerrys1923 Před 4 měsíci +83

    It amazing how much the channel has grown the last couple years, all the best to luetin

  • @SnakeBush
    @SnakeBush Před 4 měsíci +31

    madlad putting out full encyclopedias

  • @peterallen5575
    @peterallen5575 Před 4 měsíci +35

    I think the reason why the Emperor chose to be interred upon the Golden Throne instead of reincarnate is because he *couldn't* reincarnate due to being laid low by an anathema weapon, and the only reason why he survived it in the first place was because the anathema weapon destroyed his Perpetual abilities.

    • @westerncivilization
      @westerncivilization Před 4 měsíci +8

      Solid theory

    • @lewiscleminson1929
      @lewiscleminson1929 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Where does it say that he's attacked by an anathema weapon?

    • @nickcarroll8565
      @nickcarroll8565 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@lewiscleminson1929I know Horus was capable of killing perpetuals. Olanius Pius got permanently pink misted. And Sanguinius was killed body and soul.

    • @danielmartin7838
      @danielmartin7838 Před 2 měsíci

      Interesting hypothesis. If it becomes cannon, I’ll remember where I first read it.

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 Před 4 měsíci +81

    I actually had a shower moment thinking about the Golden Throne today. I was wondering to myself if it was just life-support beacon or if it has any other powers.

    • @Bornst3ll3r
      @Bornst3ll3r Před 4 měsíci +4

      Interesting thought

    • @vee-bee-a
      @vee-bee-a Před 4 měsíci +9

      Have you not heard? There's a cup holder on that throne worthy of the Man-Emperor.

    • @razor1uk610
      @razor1uk610 Před 4 měsíci

      I think initially the Golden Throne was a more mind impulse linkage system to other series of Dark Age psyker-machines, apparatuses & sensor systems with some life-aiding subsystems,
      ...before it had additional added life sustaining mechanisms, machines & circuits, monitoring sensors, & protocoled medical tech, plus additional mental protection and amplification relays/switchgear, processing units and related circuitry, installed after the Emperor was brought grievously wounded back from The Vengeful Spirit, as he informed and instructed Dorn & the Custodes of the modifications needed for before his internment within.

  • @dsagent
    @dsagent Před 4 měsíci +84

    When you dad takes WAYYYYYYYY too long on the toilet and there is a family emergency.

    • @redquoter
      @redquoter Před 4 měsíci

      "Bad stuff happens in the throne room, by the Emperor it doesn't happen in a vacuum..." 🎶🍔

    • @jessemorris744
      @jessemorris744 Před 3 měsíci

      35:45

  • @fullsalvo2483
    @fullsalvo2483 Před 4 měsíci +28

    A one hour video on the Emperor's chair.... alright, I'm game

    • @lilmoeszyslak4810
      @lilmoeszyslak4810 Před 4 měsíci

      Makes you wonder how many videos are out there covering someone’s chair 🤔

  • @nonnius2861
    @nonnius2861 Před 4 měsíci +69

    Luetin you gem i literally just made a coffee after an afternoon catching up on boring work-related tasks and general life admin.
    This feels like i got a reward for being a grownup 😂

  • @betteryou7hanme
    @betteryou7hanme Před 4 měsíci +6

    Inquisitor: Martyr was my first true introduction to the world of 40k. Luetin has been key to my deeper understanding of the lore. These videos are as much a part of my love of 40k, as any of the official materials. Thanks for all you do, brother.

  • @Synthetic_M341B
    @Synthetic_M341B Před 4 měsíci +12

    Only got into 40k a year ago after stumbling across one of your lore videos, i've been hooked ever since. i can't play TTG due to hand inpairment but i enjoy the lore.
    Also took up your advice and joined audible.. best thing i ever did.
    Great Video as always.

  • @Apollo536
    @Apollo536 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Your first two videos on the Emperor and the history of the Imperium were some of my very first introduction into 40k. You almost single handedly hooked me into the hobby. I really wish GW had guys like you deeply involved with crafting the lore. Good video, man.

  • @ajkleipass
    @ajkleipass Před 4 měsíci +17

    Luetin, this was a very thought provoking video. Love it!
    My take on the Golden Throne, in sci-fi terms we should all be familiar with, is that the throne is akin to the heart of a TARDIS.
    It was supposed to allow instant access to all parts of the empire and allow the person sitting upon it to monitor the galaxy and open portals for, say, Space Marines to travel to enemy incursions without having to enter the Warp.
    The problem was that it works too good. Instead of the throne monitoring all points of the galaxy in real time, it monitors it at all points in time too. Sitting upon the throne results in information overload as the person's mind exists at all points in time and space (possibly all other galaxies too).
    This everywhere at once condition makes it impossible for the Emperor to heal or regenerate as he is stuck outside of linear time. He therefore needs to get replaced upon the throne to allow his rebirth, but in the past ten thousand years he has either been unable or unwilling to swap places with someone strong enough to handle the throne for however long he'd require them to - or, worse, realizes that such a transfer would have dire consequences for the empire.

    • @thomasboys7216
      @thomasboys7216 Před 4 měsíci

      That's a refreshingly new take. We think a lot about it's physical appearance and position but rarely about how it looks from a temporal perspective.
      A lot of the descriptions of mortals sitting on the throne talk about them withering away. What if this actually extreme rapid aging?

  • @TheCommonNerds
    @TheCommonNerds Před 4 měsíci +9

    That was a great in depth video. Thanks for that. Love your 40K lore. Was one of my first intros into the verse and can’t get enough 40K now.

  • @skywalkeruk84
    @skywalkeruk84 Před 4 měsíci +26

    You are leading the charge in 40k lore. As your channel gets better and more (well deserved) recognition, it stands to show the die hard love we have for this world.
    We thank you for all you do Luetin - thank you brother.

  • @ashleywressell4664
    @ashleywressell4664 Před 4 měsíci +13

    Honestly there is no other channel that i get as excited about a new video for as the loremaster

  • @ryanpeek9958
    @ryanpeek9958 Před 4 měsíci +15

    Targutai Yesugei, the White Scar Stormcaller, who poked around Dark Glass before sitting down on the throne (after peeling the remains of Pieter Helian Achelieux off of it...) found messages relayed from Terra suggesting that Magnus would sit atop Dark Glass as a way-station between Terra and Catallus since Yesugei could fill the Golden Throne was connected to Dark Glass.

    • @Rosaslav
      @Rosaslav Před 4 měsíci +1

      Source?

    • @ryanpeek9958
      @ryanpeek9958 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Rosaslav The Path of Heaven by Chris Wraight. It's the book Lutein primarily references about Dark Glass.

  • @stuntmankelp3198
    @stuntmankelp3198 Před 4 měsíci +8

    It would be an incredible connection if the Eldar gods were immensely psychically powerful Eldar, who used similar thrones to wield, amplify, and project their power during the War in Heaven. And then afterwards, ascended to become purely psychic beings. Maybe similar to the Emperor’s plan?

  • @M0U53B41T
    @M0U53B41T Před 4 měsíci

    amazing as always, tbh I wouldn't have thought there was enough about the Golden Throne to make a video about but once again you've done an amazing job

  • @mikesloan3924
    @mikesloan3924 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Always been fascinated by the throne. The idea it can aid in directly attacking chaos makes the most sense to me. Good work, Loremaster!

  • @Krasher247
    @Krasher247 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I have been a Noble Chair customer for a few years, they are nice chairs not many have a 24hr sit rating and I’m thankful these do, makes me smile knowing you and I share in more than just 40k

  • @stickelsss
    @stickelsss Před 4 měsíci

    Hey, man. Been watching your videos for years. Appreciate the hard work you put into these. You're one of the OG dudes that got me really into the hobby. Keep it up the great work.

  • @Phantomgreen29
    @Phantomgreen29 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I am blown away by the richness of lore centered around the Golden Throne. This was an incredible video.

  • @CaptainNerdseye
    @CaptainNerdseye Před 4 měsíci +3

    On my third run through of your videos. Love the emperor videos thanks my dude.

  • @MaxYoung-Maxinfet
    @MaxYoung-Maxinfet Před 4 měsíci +27

    I want you to know that your videos are so good that I stopped listening to The End and the Death Volume 3 to listen to your videos.

  • @halfcrafted
    @halfcrafted Před 4 měsíci +2

    What a fantastic video, and such a key part of what the past, present and future of the 40k timeline revolves around.

  • @4ohf
    @4ohf Před 4 měsíci +2

    I love the idea that the golden throne is the chair that links you to the game of stellaris that controls the imperium and that big E hates grand strategy games and was trying to talk magnus the nerd into playing it for him only to get stuck playing it and hating life anyway 😂

  • @thetommyshades5347
    @thetommyshades5347 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Kind of weird listening to Luetin during the day. I'm so conditioned to listening to him at night as part of the Luetin sleep club I started to get sleepy haha.

  • @caperlamb1930
    @caperlamb1930 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Would absolutely love to see a video focused on Lorgar and the Word Bearers, I feel like theyre so slept on. Theres so much internal drama and ridiculous basckstabbing happening on Sicarus

  • @baronkriminel
    @baronkriminel Před 4 měsíci +1

    This has been one of my recent favorites. Great info and greater speculation.

  • @sladewilson2753
    @sladewilson2753 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for the birthday video, Leutin! Was about to have lunch now. I have something to listen to!

  • @Just_Pele
    @Just_Pele Před 4 měsíci +6

    Is there a way out for Big E? Yes. Is it so damned insanely difficult and unlikely that we'll never see it happen? Also yes.

  • @adamkevill6557
    @adamkevill6557 Před 4 měsíci +11

    The Emperor Protects! An LT video comes at the darkest of times to illuminate us once more! (It's after sunset rn here)

    • @dirtdiggler9293
      @dirtdiggler9293 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I’m here in Sunny Somalia 🇸🇴 filming romance novels 🤩

    • @mr350znismo7
      @mr350znismo7 Před 4 měsíci

      So you're in Comorrough​@@dirtdiggler9293

  • @Bmantebeest
    @Bmantebeest Před 4 měsíci

    You have extensive knowledge in this universe, and it shows. The videos are truly awesome and insightful, thanks!

  • @stretcher
    @stretcher Před 4 měsíci

    Wonderful as always LT. A great background listen while working out

  • @justanotherinternetmusicia1248
    @justanotherinternetmusicia1248 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Cup of tea, a warm bed and a new luetin vid about a beautiful horrible part of the imperium. This next hour is going to be well spent

  • @Tuberuser187
    @Tuberuser187 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I mean, the Emperor and the Imperium using an immeasurably powerful device thats an aggregate of technology from the peak of several species and civilisations just as a door bolt fits with the Imperium and the setting pretty well.

  • @weekendwarrior58
    @weekendwarrior58 Před 3 měsíci

    Luetin is the friend I don't always get to talk to but cherish every conversation we have. Thank you old friend.

  • @juliusmalcovsky4092
    @juliusmalcovsky4092 Před 4 měsíci

    Amazing work once again. Love the ideas, the way you develop them. Thank you for doing this ❤

  • @overlordmadness1548
    @overlordmadness1548 Před 4 měsíci +14

    I love the idea that the Emperor isn’t a decaying living corpse but is still very functional and is just using the Golden throne with all the scarifies and worship to make him something more then just a god.

  • @Dog-bc1lz
    @Dog-bc1lz Před 4 měsíci +9

    would love a vid on the King in Yellow and all the stuff surrounding that

    • @rannnoch
      @rannnoch Před 4 měsíci

      Watch True Detective if you haven't already

  • @MichaSennin
    @MichaSennin Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you Sir. Perfect video for a rainy Saturday.

  • @Phorak0231
    @Phorak0231 Před 4 měsíci

    Been looking forward to this one, cheers Luetin!

  • @tctc4413
    @tctc4413 Před 4 měsíci +5

    i like how everyone just takes it as a hard fact that Malcador 1- sat on the golden throne ,
    and 2 - that doing so brought on his subsequent death . i mean him and the Emp, we'll they saw the cards fall, endless amount of times, and given how every one talks about how twisty both of them where ,
    i could honestly see Malcador , wizard of OZing it for the last 10k years . I would even say this scenario is reasonable . Lets not forget , that Malcador was powerful enough to be able to potentially kill pre heresy Horus with his mind . Magus , couldn't do that , with all the power of the warp behind him , so is the death of Malcador , really reasonable ?

    • @taoisttiger4702
      @taoisttiger4702 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thats a really good point tbh. It doesnt make a whole lot of sense that the Throne would body Malcador so easilly while Magnus would be able to presumably be able to use it indefinitely. Unless there is some sort of absolute limit. Like you can be really athletic, but if you cant swim you drown pretty quick, however even average athletes who can swim can do so for hours.

    • @Ahrpigi
      @Ahrpigi Před 3 měsíci +1

      I was under the impression that the reason the Throne dusted Malcador is because it had been damaged when Magnus stuck his nose where it didn't belong, which is also the reason someone had to sit on it early at all. It being partially broken or malfunctioning could also contribute to why Big E can't heal.

    • @tctc4413
      @tctc4413 Před 3 měsíci +3

      idt it was ever actually canonically stated that the throne was damaged , just the wards of the palace blown open. though i think it 's a great explanation for how Malcador 's instant death could have happened , but given 2 possible options i think that malcador faking his death and the emperor using this incident to turn him self into a God more likely , rather than in a moment of panic both of them these smarter that smart immortals that could see into the future , that they would just sacrifice everything just to keep the lights on , esp when the imperium wasn't their 1st rebuilding humanity from the ashes , just their current best effort @@Ahrpigi

  • @jamesmacnab8945
    @jamesmacnab8945 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Thank you for another great video. The sleep club appriciates everything you do for everyone out there.

    • @Dieter843
      @Dieter843 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Sleep club represent!
      Good night to all club members

  • @filteredjc4653
    @filteredjc4653 Před 4 měsíci +1

    This was a really interesting subject that I'd previously never really thought about, the part about it being an eldar device or dark age relic is very thought provoking

  • @adrianchorolez5013
    @adrianchorolez5013 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great Video. As always I felt like I just hit play and 1 hour went by in 10 min

  • @rybuckisretro1523
    @rybuckisretro1523 Před 4 měsíci +50

    Joint , cup of tea, the next 101 ; ) mins 40k lore bliss

  • @smoore6461
    @smoore6461 Před 4 měsíci +14

    It was one of the most confusing aspects of 40k to me. The emperor fought so long and hard, against godhood, even denegrating the word bearers for their refusal to accept this. Yet now he "knows" what the inquisition is and what they do and he did not tell Guilliman to outlaw and destroy them. I am sure i am either missing something, or that it is just plot armor, (i dont want the inquisition gone or anything) but i always found the whole thing confusing. This was a fascinating video as always Leutin! Great work sir!! I realy apreciate your fantastic work. You and Arch really got me hooked on 40k lore!

    • @hippieyoda1993
      @hippieyoda1993 Před 4 měsíci

      The emperor understands at this point the inquisition is so entrenched within human society it would cause massive upheavals if he were to dissolve it, and although the inquisition is f***d up they still serve the purpose of checks and balances to other powers and rooting out chaos etc etc

    • @MichaSennin
      @MichaSennin Před 4 měsíci +14

      Guilliman knows that this would end the Imperium as a whole. As bad as "faith" and religion is viewed by him (Big E) and even Custodes, they know this is what holds the Imperium togehter. And id argue that this is why the Human species is somewhat functional past the Emperors direct influence on the physical World and its inhabitants the faith in him that he leads them even in "death". Also the inquisition was founded by Malcador, the Hero of Mankind. Put one and one together the massive civil wars, that the Imperium can not afford to fight. It spreads, yeah Chaos. But your thoughts on this are very valid and even make alot of sense in context of the overall discussion around this.

    • @tjoverton7581
      @tjoverton7581 Před 4 měsíci

      Well the inquisition isn’t doing anything The emperor hasn’t done.
      They were actually partially created by the emperors main adviser.
      Plus a lot of videos people make that mention the inquisition only mention the worst of them not the fact they do things to help save planets sectors of space etc. Like if the worst things the loyalist space marines did was the only thing we really heard about they’d sound worse then the inquisition

    • @kerb7555
      @kerb7555 Před 4 měsíci

      the inquisition, and the ecclesiarchy have massive power over the imperium,
      and they have shaped the opinions and thinking over the course of millenia.
      Even the Marine legions themself contain a lot of zealous people.
      if Robot goes against the church,
      he goes against everything the (modern) imperium stands for.
      Even parts of his legion might turn against him.
      also anything controversial he says would just be written up to xeno corruption. (due to the circumstances of his resurrection.)
      and half his brothers are traitors already so people would be swift to put him into that corner.

    • @smoore6461
      @smoore6461 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@MichaSennin great points, I was hoping someone would give an answer like this. Your point makes total sense, I didn't even think of the fact that Malcador started the Inquisition, and he as the Hero of mankind likely still holds an important place in the minds of many (at least those nobles who know history). I can't imagine telling the Death Korps of Kreig that the emperor was not a God for instance, even if it came from Guilliman himself. These are the kinds of 40k conversations I really enjoy having. Thanks for the reply. Gives me more to consider.

  • @hotcoldman9793
    @hotcoldman9793 Před 4 měsíci

    WOOOOOOO!!! Thank you for these lore dives!!❤❤

  • @edpistemic
    @edpistemic Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you for all the great content over the years and may the Emperor protect from the algorithm!

  • @theotv5522
    @theotv5522 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Maybe the crusade was the Emperor hoping to find another throne (intact hopefully) so he can learn how to properly rebuild the one he had on Terra. I think he ultimately failed because his ambitions were too big, and that made any planning he had even more difficult.

  • @ArcaneMaiden
    @ArcaneMaiden Před 4 měsíci +3

    I've always known, in my infinite wisdom, that it was a gaming chair.
    - Magnus the Nerd

  • @sheaker5634
    @sheaker5634 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for your work! I love to relax and garden with your fascinating facts as the background.

  • @sebastianmoreno1572
    @sebastianmoreno1572 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Yes yes yes yes. A VERY interesting topic!
    Thanks for always expanding my knowledge of the 40k universe. It’s so damn interesting

  • @blazednlovinit
    @blazednlovinit Před 4 měsíci +6

    50:00
    Dunno if it's canon or just head-canon but I've always thought the golden throne was growing new, "artificial" and human created sections to graft into the already existing webway.

    • @Almugavar
      @Almugavar Před 4 měsíci

      I've been under the assumption that was its original purpose, so you're not alone, though I hadn't considered that it might slowly be doing so still.

  • @darkmindaustin
    @darkmindaustin Před 4 měsíci +3

    I believe you might be right in that the Golden Throne's original purpose when crafted by the Emp that it was a tunneling device, administrative communication device, and offensive against the warp device. It feels too good of a device not to have grand machinations than "Life Support storm door!"

  • @dte4539
    @dte4539 Před 4 měsíci

    Best video in a year luetin, keep it up

  • @DDCrp
    @DDCrp Před 4 měsíci

    Returning to your videos after an extended stint away- love your series so much man! No competition.

    • @danielmartin7838
      @danielmartin7838 Před 2 měsíci

      They wouldn’t entertain the possibility of allowing me access to his lore videos from jail, either.

  • @VictorIV0310
    @VictorIV0310 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Balam Industries sponsored field trip to Terra.

  • @NickC84
    @NickC84 Před 4 měsíci +14

    What if the Throne was given to Mankind by Tzeentch in the past as a "long game" strategy to take out the Emperor? He knew he couldn't defeat the Emperor outright, but what if you take him off the board via other means? "Just as planned"

    • @filteredjc4653
      @filteredjc4653 Před 4 měsíci +4

      There is also the disturbing fact that the Imperial Eagle has two heads, which happens to be the form of Tzeentch demons. It would actually be a good demonic joke if the Imperium was being manipulated by Tzeentch and only thought they were fighting against Chaos, but were actually helping it by creating conflict, despair, intrigue and pain.

    • @brandonvallier4214
      @brandonvallier4214 Před 4 měsíci

      Tzeentch loves Big E. All his plans, betraying, schemes, his ability to inspire change. Lets also not forget an aspect of Tzeentch is also hope. 40k humanity by its overall existence and nature are fueling Tzeentch like crazy. Big E himself is also the entire races literal symbol of hope. Then their symbols is the two eyed bird which is 100% tzeenchian. Instead of the two headed bird looking at the past and the future it shuts its eyes to the past and keeps its gaze on the future, also a symbolism of hope for a better tomorrow.
      There's also a short story that has a Tzeentchian priest that essentially says Tzeentch has always admired Big E.
      If it was a long game pof Tzeentch it wasn't to "take out" Big E as much as it was to to get humanity to where they are now which as I said basically fuels him by there very concept of existence more then any other god.

    • @oss182
      @oss182 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@filteredjc4653 "He is the master of mankind by the will of the gods." Since hearing that quote and learning about the lore, I believe that was the endgame of chaos all along, to force the Emperor, and therefore humanity, into the decaying state they exist now.

  • @DocDoomy
    @DocDoomy Před 2 měsíci

    Awesome as ever. Thanks Luetin!

  • @Wisznuification
    @Wisznuification Před 4 měsíci

    it's 11pm and there is a new Luetin video yes baby

  • @extra-terra-strial-bv9pv
    @extra-terra-strial-bv9pv Před 4 měsíci +5

    I was listening to the third dark origins video I think it was, And I had an idea relating to the idea of a unified time system for the imperium. What about quantum entanglement? The concept is already made use of by the necron and since our current tech in the year 2000 is capeable of basic quantum computing building a simble quantum transmission device able to transmit the tiny amount of data that would be required for time keeping would not be a challenge… the ony caveat is I’m not sure how it would interact with warp travel. But it’s an interesting idea. Keep up the awesome videos

  • @1985slipstream
    @1985slipstream Před 4 měsíci +3

    Luetin gets a new chair. Release video on a chair...

  • @peterjanson1058
    @peterjanson1058 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Nice juicy subject matter, thanks Luetin! So, my take on this is that the golden throne is a metaphorical psychic hamster wheel hooked up to a turbo charged metaphorical power generator. So this allows you to turn your psychic energy into a kind of energy that you can use to power a whole bunch of useful machines, your ability to invent turbo charges psychic machinery is the limit.
    I'd love to see a video covering what exactly the ecclesiarchy believes. I bet it's pretty convoluted. Wonderful content as always.

  • @vicmal2112
    @vicmal2112 Před 4 měsíci

    This is awesome! I'm getting ready to go to work but I'm excited to have this to come home to!

  • @damnedLegion40K
    @damnedLegion40K Před 4 měsíci +3

    Magnus rebuilds the emperor's webway project, uses it to return to Terra, after finding a way to resurrect the rubrica and the emperor too. Proceeds to resurrect the emperor, throw off the control of Tzeeztch and his mutations, then takes over on the golden throne and finally forful his destiny that was required by his father. Magnus upon the golden throne? Thoughts?

  • @user-sx1jl7pl9d
    @user-sx1jl7pl9d Před 4 měsíci +3

    Finish breakfast, grab phone, see a notification from Luetin; now I can carry the emperor's will as my torch.

  • @cookydemon444
    @cookydemon444 Před 4 měsíci

    Working with my Custodes and having a new Luetin vid for background noise is possibly the best Saturday surprise I could have hoped for.
    But also you should do a Custodes vid! (Pls)

  • @Richard-iw1dd
    @Richard-iw1dd Před 4 měsíci

    Just when I’m trying to find detailed lore on the Golden Throne Luetin is kind enough to upload a video 😊.

  • @Dingusmaningus
    @Dingusmaningus Před 4 měsíci

    Another solid video about one of my favourite 40k mysteries

  • @oleww50
    @oleww50 Před 4 měsíci

    That chair is glorious! Thanks for another video. Can’t wait to listen 😁

  • @TakiKimono
    @TakiKimono Před 4 měsíci

    a rare 4th wall break of you sharing a picture of this corkboard sounds amazing.

  • @TheTommeYa
    @TheTommeYa Před 4 měsíci

    Omg you did it !! I have waited for this for years ! Thank you thank😊 you

  • @ghostinhell666
    @ghostinhell666 Před 4 měsíci

    This was a very insightful video and great edit👍

  • @gtbkts
    @gtbkts Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the awesome content and great video!

  • @karituurihalme1007
    @karituurihalme1007 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Uuh. Exactly what I wanted to see. My head cannon is that Luetin saw me propose the topic previously ❤

  • @Zyddie
    @Zyddie Před 4 měsíci

    Yay perfect way to relax during the weekend!

  • @BESTGINGEREU
    @BESTGINGEREU Před 4 měsíci

    Man your content is so fucking good. What a time to be alive

  • @pauloconnor2503
    @pauloconnor2503 Před 4 měsíci

    Finally after 2 + years I’ve caught up. Excellent work as always

  • @ashleymcgee3536
    @ashleymcgee3536 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you again, Luetin!

  • @samuelpapalia4885
    @samuelpapalia4885 Před 2 měsíci

    god damn this was an amazing one. Luetin you are an amazing loremaster! keep it up. Emperor Protects!

  • @TheHamno
    @TheHamno Před 4 měsíci

    Another awesome vid, thanks once again!

  • @herringnicholas
    @herringnicholas Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for another awesome video!

  • @shaolingaming333
    @shaolingaming333 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video. Very informative and thought-provoking.

  • @HorizonIsHere1337
    @HorizonIsHere1337 Před 4 měsíci

    God I need some fresh lore tonight.
    Luetin saved the day again.

  • @jamandrez
    @jamandrez Před 4 dny

    Always enjoy the videos!

  • @ActionQuackson
    @ActionQuackson Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for the video!

  • @prettygoodactually
    @prettygoodactually Před 4 měsíci

    Nice always wanted you to do a lore video about this

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 Před 4 měsíci

    Another awesome lore video!!