Crimewatch UK May 2004

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
  • 26 May 2004. This month the case of the robbers in Leeds who set out to steal but ended up killing one of their victims; the rapist who struck three times at dawn; and the man who returned for revenge after being ripped off in London's Soho

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  • @saintetienne755
    @saintetienne755 Před 6 měsíci +15

    Superb stuff - should never have be discontinued - a vital programme.
    That music is part of my childhood

  • @Habasi
    @Habasi Před 6 měsíci +19

    Deryk Cox was murdered by Brian Lawrence, who had an affair with a married woman who was a friend of Deryk's and killed him out of jealousy after the affair ended. He also tried to hire a hitman to kill the woman's husband and another friend of hers, but the hitman was actually an undercover policeman. He was sentenced to life with a minimum term of 21 years - if he is still alive (he would be 82 now) he will be eligible to apply for parole in 2026.

    • @jennynott3841
      @jennynott3841 Před 6 měsíci

      Does the story feature in this crime watch episode it was done in 2004. Thank you

  • @CGreen-hh6qk
    @CGreen-hh6qk Před 6 měsíci +7

    Thx u oldstuff for your time in downloading these episodes of crimewatch uk much appreciated

  • @garyburnett479
    @garyburnett479 Před 6 měsíci +9

    Thanks for uploading! I'm a massive fan of Crimewatch.

  • @andrewwebb2941
    @andrewwebb2941 Před 6 měsíci +15

    Can remember watching at the time thinking PC Jonathan Morrison was terrible infront of the camera. 20 years on and my opinion hasn't changed.

    • @sHorrorfan
      @sHorrorfan Před 5 měsíci

      yep agree. i knew his mum she was known as tasty susan.

  • @thequietone2962
    @thequietone2962 Před 6 měsíci +17

    I got a comment removed on the Facebook group for stating that you had posted a new upload a few weeks ago. “Speaking about banned members”. Folk taking themselves too seriously 😂 thank for the upload mate, not much more to find now, cheers.

    • @ggggAz
      @ggggAz Před 6 měsíci +14

      That ‘group’ is beyond pathetic

    • @paulanthony5274
      @paulanthony5274 Před 4 měsíci

      When my mum was in her late 20s her friends recently (at the time) ex boyfriend got in touch with mum asking her if he could meet up with her for a chat about getting back with his girlfriend, saying he wanted to explain things to her and see if she could help. My mum thought it was strange but he talked her round and said he'd buy her her dinner and they went outside a pub for a chat. He was acting strange, hardly talking about it and just bought her a bag of crisps then they got in his car and he ended up getting chased by the police for speeding. He pulled into a lay by and said to my mum "this is the best bit" as the panda car went past and didn't see him. It was in the 70s before they had souped up fast police cars. After this he got out of the car and pulled my mum out and threw her on the floor damaging her back. My mum said "please don't hurt me" and he said "Why what makes you think I want to hurt you" he had problems with erected dysfunction and got on top of her and rubbed him against her stomach and did it that way. My mum said all she could think about was myself and my sister and worried she'd never see us again. She didn't report it to the police. And didn't tell me about it for 35 years. I don't know if he's still alive but he'd be in his eighties now. It's probably best she didn't tell me because I don't know what I would have done if I'd found him. She kept that to herself all those years. She died 2 years ago of cancer. What a horrible man, he was tricked her then did that to her. What an animal. His name is Jim Cowey he was from Salford, probably dead now.

  • @metalmickey
    @metalmickey Před 6 měsíci +46

    You work a door trying to rob blokes after luring them into a situation 🤔. I'd not do that myself but I'm not surprised someone did.

    • @ianbousfield1962
      @ianbousfield1962 Před 6 měsíci +16

      How can clubs like that be allowed to operate?

    • @Bg54321
      @Bg54321 Před 6 měsíci +18

      Camille didnt deserve this but if you scam people, what do you expect?

    • @stubru16
      @stubru16 Před 6 měsíci

      London is still a shithole today nothing has changed. Thanks to tony Blair

    • @retrorambles517
      @retrorambles517 Před 6 měsíci +7

      I wonder what happened to the scam club
      I bet they were closed down

    • @sher6897
      @sher6897 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Call it Bald justice Mickey? 🤣

  • @RgP1238
    @RgP1238 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Mixed results from this episode - Deryk Cox's killer was found and setenced, Gary Salomon was located and jailed for murder and two brothers were found guilty of the murders of Graham and Carol Fisher. However, they have been allowed another Appeal aginst their convictions. The murders of Joe Montague, John Luper and Camile Gordon are still unsolved. James Brodie wanted for the murder of Marian Bates was never found. In fact he was believed to have been murdered days after the killing in a gangland execution. A man was charged with his murder but the case was discontinued in 2013

    • @cartimandua_
      @cartimandua_ Před měsícem

      The appeal of the two brothers for killing Graham and Carol was DISMISSED. They are still where they belong. They were career violent robbers who ended up killing.

  • @chrismanners9091
    @chrismanners9091 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Thank you! Before I watch it, I'm going to take a bet that there've already been arrests for that cashback robbery case last month.

  • @strongcoffee7
    @strongcoffee7 Před 6 měsíci +28

    The Tottenham rapist was caught in 2005 sentenced to 14 years.

    • @soulbrother61
      @soulbrother61 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Who was it, i just looked for it on the net

    • @strongcoffee7
      @strongcoffee7 Před 6 měsíci +8

      @@soulbrother61 Haci Tasan, was 31 at the time and sadly struck again before being caught

    • @user-be6nu2cj7e
      @user-be6nu2cj7e Před 6 měsíci +8

      He should have been given at least 20 years

    • @OJF1905
      @OJF1905 Před 6 měsíci +8

      iMmIgRaNtS WeLcOmE🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @strongcoffee7
      @strongcoffee7 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@OJF1905 Yes they are and the Turkish community have been part of Tottenham and Enfield since way before the second world war, with some families in the third or fourth generation born in the area ...

  • @uktruecrime
    @uktruecrime Před 5 měsíci +6

    even 2004 seems like 20 years ago now.

  • @ryanohara476
    @ryanohara476 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Huge thank you once again Oldstuff620! Do you have the Wed April 28 2004 episode? No rush of course!

    • @oldstuff620
      @oldstuff620  Před 6 měsíci +12

      I couldn't find that one (yet). Please add it to the list of missing episodes for me to look into once I have uploaded the main batch.

    • @ryanohara476
      @ryanohara476 Před 6 měsíci +8

      @@oldstuff620 Huge thank you once again! It really is amazing to finally have nearly all of the first twenty years of Crimewatch UK available on CZcams! As requested I've added it to the list, which is here on the comments section! A huge thank you once again!

    • @leothomas2533
      @leothomas2533 Před 6 měsíci +2

      THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THESE @oldstuff620

  • @jamesobrien1440
    @jamesobrien1440 Před 6 měsíci +5

    When Nick introduced the first case where the protagonists were short, medium & large I was expecting to see a felon featuring Ronnie Corbett, Ronnie barker and John Cleese for some reason.

  • @saxandrelax6781
    @saxandrelax6781 Před 6 měsíci +9

    Very unusual song choice when the boxer drives home

    • @booers79
      @booers79 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Maybe it’s the sort of thing he listened to in his car.

    • @zeexox4998
      @zeexox4998 Před 6 měsíci +1

      😂😂

    • @uktruecrime
      @uktruecrime Před 5 měsíci +1

      maybe thats what they found in his car.

    • @UnIimited_Power
      @UnIimited_Power Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yeah ikr should've been Eye of the Tiger!

  • @ryanohara476
    @ryanohara476 Před 6 měsíci +8

    44:45 rest in eternal peace George Alagiah, Carol and Graham Fisher!

    • @clioflano421
      @clioflano421 Před 6 měsíci +4

      George is a legend.
      RIP.

    • @ryanohara476
      @ryanohara476 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@clioflano421 An irreplaceable gentleman! one of the nicest human beings to ever grace this Earth. I still can't believe he is gone! We were extremely lucky to have a beautiful human in George Alagiah! He is much missed by viewers and his colleagues families and friends! 💔😢

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Couldn't agree more with those sentiments.

  • @ramatgan1
    @ramatgan1 Před 6 měsíci +8

    The murder of John Luper is still unsolved to this day.

    • @anthonymcken6050
      @anthonymcken6050 Před 6 měsíci +2

      The robbers sound like locals.

    • @milo04
      @milo04 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Hit job for sure.

    • @sHorrorfan
      @sHorrorfan Před 5 měsíci

      if you have cash, you risk it all.

  • @AdyReavill
    @AdyReavill Před 6 měsíci +5

    I seen this the first time it broadcast in 2004. Joe Montague murder still unsolved

  • @metalmickey
    @metalmickey Před 6 měsíci +2

    Excellent timing 🤘

  • @ianbousfield1962
    @ianbousfield1962 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Jonathan Morrison was dropped from the show after allegedly assaulting his girlfriend

    • @ryanohara476
      @ryanohara476 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Sam-rg2dlJeremy Paine's of Sussex Police replacement also soon to be joined by Rav Wilding.

    • @leothomas2533
      @leothomas2533 Před 6 měsíci +4

      He would have been dropped anyway as he was bloody awful in front of the camera

    • @andrewwebb2941
      @andrewwebb2941 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@leothomas2533 Absolutely spot on!

    • @09weenic
      @09weenic Před 6 měsíci

      @@leothomas2533he was only on CW to tick ✅ a box

    • @Ashs-mini-vlogs
      @Ashs-mini-vlogs Před měsícem

      diversity hire

  • @terryjohnson570
    @terryjohnson570 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Thanks haven't seen this one 👍🇬🇧

    • @sher6897
      @sher6897 Před 6 měsíci +1

      What’s with the Union Jack loool

    • @terryjohnson570
      @terryjohnson570 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@sher6897 it's my country 👍🤫😂

  • @sher6897
    @sher6897 Před 6 měsíci +2

    29:55 I’m screaming how you gonna pick up trash from a bank bin and use it to scam yourself some quick cash 😭😂😂

  • @strongcoffee7
    @strongcoffee7 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Camille Gordon's murder is still unsolved ....

    • @xperia1ii755
      @xperia1ii755 Před 6 měsíci +8

      No real sympathy for her I'm guessing. Involved in the scamming of men so it's fair to say most people couldn't give a shit about her.

    • @strongcoffee7
      @strongcoffee7 Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@xperia1ii755 women worked in clip joints for years, scamming doesn't mean you deserve a knife in the chest, and die. She wouldn't have been getting a big cut of the scammed money!

    • @xperia1ii755
      @xperia1ii755 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@strongcoffee7 Well I'm sorry. She knew what she was doing and some bloke was going to get scammed out of money. Although I'm surprised that no-one has ever been convicted of it.

    • @strongcoffee7
      @strongcoffee7 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@xperia1ii755 being scammed, potentially scammed doesn't mean death for the woman, who won't be in charge, (strippers don't run the strip joints) is the correct or equal response, murdering her was not the right answer, it doesn't make it better, it makes him so much worse, if he'd gone for the bouncer, could have almost made more sense....

    • @gloverdragon6854
      @gloverdragon6854 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@strongcoffee7not only was it scamming people out of their money, but it was under the threat of being assaulted. The fear that can run into you from that would be immense. She didn’t deserve it, but I can’t say I’m surprised.

  • @ryandaly1146
    @ryandaly1146 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Please could you upload April or July 2004 next. June 2004 is already on CZcams thank you

  • @ianbousfield1962
    @ianbousfield1962 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Loving fionas glasses

  • @GazH-zc7jj
    @GazH-zc7jj Před 5 měsíci +3

    That bird that was stabbed for luring that guy in then getting the doorman to rinse him of his money was appalling, I don't condone knife crime but I'm sorry if your conning people like that then it's karma I'm afraid.

    • @katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt
      @katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt Před 2 měsíci +1

      He didn’t need to stab her he could’ve just taken it up with her manager and when the time was right asked for refund as Nick pointed out there’s nothing in the world can justify what happened X

    • @curt3494
      @curt3494 Před 13 dny +1

      ​@@katemissfilanpurrmcdevittAsk for a refund at a brass house? 😂

  • @HisaLight2mypath
    @HisaLight2mypath Před 3 měsíci +1

    Crime watch was a lot more better back in the days

  •  Před 6 měsíci +13

    OMG couldn't we have kept modest PC Jonathan Morrison and then been spared the obnoxious, cocky and full of himself Rav Wilding trying to make light of serious crime with dreadful puns. Surely Crimewatch starting to go downhill coincided with the arrival of Rav. Guess Rav wasn't so bad when he first took over but he became so smug and unbearable a couple of years down the line when we also got the dramatic over the top music soundtracks in the reconstructions. Dreadful.

    • @ianbousfield1962
      @ianbousfield1962 Před 6 měsíci +7

      I remember a newspaper article saying Jonathan Morrison was fired from the show and the police for attacking his girlfriend

    •  Před 6 měsíci

      Oh dear. Never knew that. So, only right he was fired @@ianbousfield1962

    • @saxandrelax6781
      @saxandrelax6781 Před 6 měsíci +8

      I totally agree about rav. Wow about Morrison, oh the irony lol

    • @Sam-rg2dl
      @Sam-rg2dl Před 6 měsíci +4

      Rav Wilding is actually a really humble kind honest man. Really not the way you are describing him here

    • @sher6897
      @sher6897 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Sam-rg2dllmao. Also he attacked his ex girlfriend Chantelle Houghton

  • @ryanohara476
    @ryanohara476 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Wow thank you!!!

  • @katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt
    @katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt Před 6 měsíci +3

    Rest in peace Joe Carol Graham and Camille Xx😢😢

  • @posvibz553
    @posvibz553 Před 6 měsíci +2

    How can the people say she was lovely, she didnt deserve to.die but clearly wasnt nice

  • @BlytheWorld1972
    @BlytheWorld1972 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! that's my night sorted then .

  • @hihowareyouthen
    @hihowareyouthen Před 6 měsíci +5

    19:19 And the Oscar goes to...

    • @OJF1905
      @OJF1905 Před 6 měsíci +4

      🤣

    • @lw3646
      @lw3646 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I've seen better acting in The Room.....

  • @amycauvain1412
    @amycauvain1412 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Hi can you upload crimewatch may 2005 please

  • @chrismanners9091
    @chrismanners9091 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I'm no lawyer, but doesn't that bit about Delroy Edwards get a bit close to comtempt of court? If you can't show his face because it's sub iudice, would it hurt not to mention it till it's finished?

  • @DJObiSmalls
    @DJObiSmalls Před 3 měsíci

    Unbelievable, how is the Camile murder still unsolved?

  • @NewAgeBarbarian
    @NewAgeBarbarian Před 6 měsíci +4

    3:33 asphyxiation by marmalade

  • @ashhammond5652
    @ashhammond5652 Před 6 dny

    Jamaican me crazy, those girls were committing crimes and frauds, they would have probably faced such potential treatment, firstly, would be very dangerous to be in that environment as a woman, but secondly, she and her accomplices were committing crimes, frauds and possible violence, she should have faced some form of punishment for that hopefully lawfully

  • @ryanohara476
    @ryanohara476 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Until this episode here are the "missing from CZcams" Crimewatch UK episodes
    ● Thu December 10 1992
    ● Thu October 11 2001 (the first twenty four minutes are missing)
    ● Wed March 6 2002
    ● Thu June 26 2003
    ● Thu November 20 2003 (the last few minutes are missing)
    ● Wed December 17 2003 (the first few minutes are missing)
    ● Wed April 28 2004

    •  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Only 4 fully missing editions in the first 20 yrs of Crimewatch - that is very good going

    • @OJF1905
      @OJF1905 Před 6 měsíci

      Hi, is June 89 missing or non existent?
      I'm missing:
      Jan, Mar, Aug, Sep 2002.
      Aug, Oct - 2001
      Jan, Jun - 2003
      Jul - Dec + Apr 2004
      Jan - Sep 2005
      Are they on here?!

    • @ryanohara476
      @ryanohara476 Před 6 měsíci

      Hi no the June 1989 was delayed by a month for some technical broadcasting strike or something. It was delayed until July 1989. July 1989 was also the last appearance of PC Helen Phelps' last appearance Chief Supt David Hatcher carried on single handed until Jacqui Hames joined in March 1990. The first few months until October 2005 are currently missing on CZcams it's the ones here April, July 2004 onwards until October 2005 onwards with both November 2006 episodes that are left to be uploaded plus the ones mentioned above.

    • @OJF1905
      @OJF1905 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ryanohara476 okay so there was no June 89, it was just July?
      Sorry, so out of the list I wrote, none of them have been uploaded to CZcams? I.E. I’ve not overlooked any episodes….

  • @mrmentalman9278
    @mrmentalman9278 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Have you got January 2013?

  • @arranle
    @arranle Před 6 měsíci +1

    Record number of Murders in 1 Episode surely??

    • @OJF1905
      @OJF1905 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I was thinking that

  • @roberthunter1
    @roberthunter1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Was the boxing coach’s murder solved?

  • @uktruecrime
    @uktruecrime Před 5 měsíci +1

    Joe Montague was probly taken ot by the competition. quite often crime watch miss important facts out that change everything.

  • @retrorambles517
    @retrorambles517 Před 6 měsíci +2

    John luper murder still unsolved

  • @reddahlia6583
    @reddahlia6583 Před 20 dny

    The first case was... Wild.
    Marmalade??
    Do me a favour, when you see your dad, dont scream??
    WHAT?!?!!

  • @JeromeMelcome
    @JeromeMelcome Před 4 měsíci

    Mad nothing has changed really just got alot worse

  • @sammysamx_x
    @sammysamx_x Před 2 měsíci

    I don’t really feel that sorry for the woman who lured guys in and let them get charged all that money tbh karma at its best

  • @retrorambles517
    @retrorambles517 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Camile Gordon
    Still unsolved

    • @soulbrother61
      @soulbrother61 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Karma mate, she won't do that again

  • @theyoutubeguy1
    @theyoutubeguy1 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Camille was a blatant thief, I have zero sympathy for her.

    • @lw3646
      @lw3646 Před 6 měsíci +3

      A robber who got stabbed it sounds like.

  • @habibrohman-cq1us
    @habibrohman-cq1us Před 4 měsíci

    How could he do that and rape 3 times.

  • @angusking1593
    @angusking1593 Před 6 měsíci

    Sorry if I sound like Bronn when Tyrion was explaining borrowing money... But what if he didn't pay? I don't know if places like that still exist in London but say if I had been in his position, talking to her, then the bouncer comes in and starts demanding money. What if I refuse. Bouncer wanted £375, I don't carry that much with me, heck, I rarely carry £90 like that guy ended up paying.
    But I wouldn't even hand them my wallet, I'd ask them to show me where I agreed to pay that ammount and walk out. £5 for a 10 min conversation is a rip off as it is. But yeah,

    • @gloverdragon6854
      @gloverdragon6854 Před 6 měsíci

      Lol, mate, it wasn’t about agreeing to an amount of payment. It was a scam, the scam is, you pay what they want or they threaten you with a beaten and then you can leave.

    • @angusking1593
      @angusking1593 Před 6 měsíci

      @@gloverdragon6854 What if you just refuse to pay? I know it's a scam, even the presenter calls it a rip off establishment. I don't carry much cash on me anyway. Like right now there's maybe £30 inmy wallet, if that. What if you just say to the bouncers, "No,, I didn't agree to pay £375, I'm walking out now, you're getting nothing from me. I'm not even carrying anywhere near that ammount."

    • @gloverdragon6854
      @gloverdragon6854 Před 6 měsíci

      @@angusking1593 your safety would be in their hands. You either pay, take a beating or force your way out. These clip joints were dangerous places. They would sometimes force “customers” to atm machines and make them withdraw the max amount of cash. The police and councils were trying to get those types of places closed down for decades. They’re basically non existent now.

    • @angusking1593
      @angusking1593 Před 6 měsíci

      @@gloverdragon6854 I'd maybe try the force my way out option. I don't get how they could force a person to an ATM, that's out in the open. Say if he's walking with me to an ATM, I could run and hope I'm faster. I could shout for help, even at the ATM machine I could refuse to put in my code.

    • @jimmylad7358
      @jimmylad7358 Před 5 měsíci

      @@angusking1593If you don’t pay they beat the shit out of you basically and trying to escape without paying or taking the beating would be pretty difficult since the only exit is blocked by 2 huge doormen.

  •  Před 6 měsíci

    Did Fiona Bruce get eye surgery? Never seen her wearing glasses since?

    • @ryanohara476
      @ryanohara476 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I remember Fiona Bruce sometimes used to present the BBC six o clock and ten o cock news, about 8 years ago she was often wearing large framed spectacles glasses. But not that often perhaps she uses contact lenses more often.

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Nice

  • @simonmcmullen1129
    @simonmcmullen1129 Před 4 měsíci

    The stamps job how convenient he was away and laughing about it being stolen and 10k reward come on 1 stamp 86k alone come on son

    • @lolitapitpong3826
      @lolitapitpong3826 Před měsícem

      why would someone fake the theft of a 200k stamp collection😂

  • @Ashs-mini-vlogs
    @Ashs-mini-vlogs Před měsícem

    diversity is our strengh lol

  • @sHorrorfan
    @sHorrorfan Před 5 měsíci

    52:34 insurance job.

  • @carlosbent5046
    @carlosbent5046 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The morning i met Boris Johnson Euston sq...04 Holborn police st,

  • @tegwenhafparry7488
    @tegwenhafparry7488 Před 4 měsíci

    Trust the police?? 😂😂😂😂

  • @anthonygudgeon4298
    @anthonygudgeon4298 Před 4 měsíci +1

    10:00 Wonders of immigration!

  • @garyproffitt5941
    @garyproffitt5941 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The late Robert Peel and inventing with the beat Bobbies >> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Peel