Social Media-Induced Mass Hysteria | Mysterious Tourette Syndrome Tics
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the research on a proposed new type of sociogenic illness called "Mass Social Media-Induced Illness" and how it connects to Jan Zimmerman?
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Well the good thing about Dr Grande's channel is that if we subscriber start to mimic him, we will just become calm, logical and possess a dry sense of humour.
And!! “I’m not diagnosing anyone” so we are in the clear. We’ll just be well rounded with a chuckle here and there. Although bein fun at parties may go out the window. Fair trade.
This good doctor couldn't know how hilarious he is! His jokes come out of nowhere without any indication!
We need Germanic in Venice to translate
@@Tattootin I am no fun at parties anyways... It might just be a trade up for me. :P
Love your post! Lol so true💜
I was diagnosed with tourettes syndrome about 20 years ago when I was 9 years old. It's never really caused me much of an issue; I've never been made fun, in fact most people are more curious when they see me make weird faces and noises than anything else. Half the time, I forget to include it on those "preexisting conditions" forms when you see a new doctor, it's just such a normal part of my life. It's disturbing to me to see people pretending to have tourettes, OCD, etc for clout. I don't feel ashamed or angry, I just think it's pathetic. I also worry that it'll make the general public less willing to believe it's even a real condition.
OCD is commonly self diagnosed by people worldwide.
@@smackdashitoutchu7755 i still don't understand why. OCD is life-altering and draining. it's painful and full of intrusive thoughts and panic attacks. no one should want it. living with OCD is hell.
I watched a (Dutch) program recently called ‘levenslang met dwang?’ (which can be translated somewhat as ‘a life long with compulsions?’). In that show they show a group of young people with OCD who go through a very intense program for treating their OCD. But there was a girl in there who had tics that were actually quite similar to Tourette’s tics. Like she was compulsively touching her face a certain way. Only her tics came out of a sense of anxiety and trying to cope with the anxiety with this type of compulsive behaviour. Anyway, I’m just saying some people with OCD can show tics that look very Tourette-like.
@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus I studied psychology myself (but mostly social psychology, not clinical psychology). But mental Illnesses still have my interest. I feel OCD is mostly an anxiety disorder rather than a compulsivity problem. People show OCD behaviour in an attempt to control or avoid their anxiety, but it only works for a little while, and mostly you see the OCD gets worse throughout time. This tv programme is really interesting for me, cause they work with real life therapists and exposure training. And you can see throughout the weeks how the participants are improving. The girl with the Tourette-like tics was the most difficult ‘case’ they had to treat though. She also received EMDR treatment cause her anxiety levels were extremely high.
@@yourbootyholeisyourbeautyhole first off, your name cracks me up. And I completely agree with you, it’s ridiculous. I feel like people associate being clean or organized with OCD and then obviously self-misdiagnose themselves as having the condition. There’s even a local detailing place here in town that plays off OCD in the business name. It’s so pathetic.
Speaking from experience - in the states there used to be a show on MTV called “True Life: ______” and the blank would depend on the episode. There was a girl with Tourette’s and I want to say some episodes with OCD as well. This was a good number of years ago, I was in middle school so likely 2006ish. I think the TLC show “My Strange Addiction” also had some episodes covering OCD which was more widely viewed and kind of made it a spectacle for viewers. It’s gross. As some who has compulsive behaviors myself, mine 100% stem from anxiety and it’s absolute h e l l, like you said. Not something I’d ever dream of pretending or faking.
I used to work with a guy who has tourettes, the tics would express as muscle spasms in his face particularly the muscles around his eyes and his cheeks, and it would be exacerbated with stress. Like, severely. It seemed like a living hell. Observing his reaction to it all, it was pretty embarrassing for him, and it was sincerely debilitating for him at times. I don't know why someone would want to emulate that
Sympathy and attention. Especially with kids now… that’s what they’ve most like it gotten, and all of a sudden random disfunction’s start up, and you’re getting ALL this close attention and love most likely due to manipulation, all seems too easy to screw up so much for others. Great comment you had put down. Man!! I can’t imagine what dude is still going through.
@Beaverish Buck Teeth Interesting critique. It's an attention game, isn't it?
There's a episode on an English dating show where there's a guy with tourettes and honestly it's pretty funny because sometimes he says non sequiturs like "period pains" but later on towards the end of the date (he's gay and on a date with another man) when the bill comes he looks at the waitress and goes "he's a gayboy" then starts apologizing right away.
The real sympathy you have towards the guy with the genuine disorder is what the fakers crave.
@Beaverish Buck Teeth Appreciate your insight. Certainly something to think about.
Social media is one of the best/worst inventions of the modern era. Great way to stay in touch with far and away family and friends. At the same time, too many people abuse it, especially as of late.
It made it harder for a father to keep his daughter off the pole, that's for sure
Poor social media. Shouldn't be abused by humans. 😁
Nailed it! Humans have this need to have more/better- Aka always setting a goal. Some good 👍🏼 /education such as this, intriguing documentaries- actual master program classes and then ya know-
The ones that buy ridiculous cars and help our youth feel inadequate. I wouldn’t want to be a teenager about now. You make a tremendous point! 💓👏🏻👏🏻
yes waking out the pros & cons can go on forever, for all there is a lot of good deep down i wouldn't want to be a teenager growing up in it I am so glad my wild days are lost in mines and others memories and not out there forever haunting me or any bad judgement call constantly getting brought up.
Its scary to think to much about it and how things will be 10yrs down the line with it.
Maybe the massive mistake with social media is that it was free. I am not sure tho, I go back and forth about that.
I love the way Dr. Grande can be sarcastic and totally Professional sounding at the same time, lol “ I have to remain open to the possibility that they were possibly citing Shakespeare, solving complex mathematical equations or having a discussion about Pressing Socio-political issues” I do find it very disturbing that this is happening or that it is even possible. People, please get better role models!!! Thanks again Dr. Grande, another very interesting analysis.
I noticed he increased that sarcastic dry humor as his subs increased. Maybe he’s learning from his favorite CZcamsr Trisha Paytas 😀
also known as dry humor!! one of the best types
I call it the “Dr Grande Snark” 🤣🤣🤣
I love the good doctor's voice. It is very relaxing regardless how gruesome the topic or stories.
Yet ppl call him unprofessional bc of this
This is exactly why I'm so disturbed by the DID trend/community that's been going online for the past few years.
Totally, it's like something cool and exotic for them, like a a game, when DID is a horrific disorder that occurs after severe abuse (usually sexual abuse). How people can be so extremely ignorant and disrespectful just to get some attention and fame.
@@teijaflink2226 Well, that's if it exists at all. Whether or not it should even be in the DSM is still hotly debated.
@@PennyxXxDreadful Did definitely exists, but it is VERY rare.
@@sainjerry1710 I'm not prepared to agree that it definitely exists. If it does, I can't imagine it looks anything like what DID influencers would have you believe. Obviously dissociation is very real, but I don't buy fully formed and independent personalities. That feels like it's iatrogenic to me. I'm not convinced they wouldn't better fit into and be helped by a different diagnosis.
@@sainjerry1710 nah, I think everyone that claims they have it are faking and to date I'm convinced its a totally bullshit diagnosis
As someone who has had non-specified essential tremors and OCD for over a decade, it both frustrates me that fake-tics are so prevalent now, esp. on tik tok, but also makes me feel grateful to finally see some recognition of these challenging symptoms.
As someone who has long term Lyme disease I appreciate the increase in awareness, however now I have people advise me to try magnets... you know... To fix the holes in my brain 😂 so you win some, you lose some... Good luck with any health issues you have 👍
@@AMM3. good luck to you, too! We’ve got this ✊🏾
Same. I have seizures, and a lot of people don’t realize that a certain number of epileptics do have tics, too - and it makes sense, given that it’s all neurological. Anyway, I agree with the double- edged sword of it all; it’s nice that people are more educated about it, but I stg If one more person tells me that I should try kale smoothies, I’m going to throw a fit
@@pembrokelove kale smoothies 🤣 I haven't heard that yet... But seriously fresh air? Juice cleanse? Vitamins? Coffee beans? WTF? I'm not even joking about someone suggesting meth to increase brain activity... I mean obviously they were high but unless you actually know anything- please do screw off 😂
@@pembrokelove maybe I'll get desperate, try meth some time... Then be searching for that junkie to thank... But I doubt it... And have you actually tried the smoothies? I haven't actually tried the magnets... Maybe we're being too close minded 😂🤣😂
I refused an OCD diagnosis for years after watching how influencers and media portrayed it because I was led to believe it was something it was not.
I’m sorry this happened to you
no you didn't
@@wvtrucker10420 okay buddy
OCD is curable. Go watch Dr. David Burns.
Last time I was this early I was still self-diagnosed with autism
Does that mean you are now diagnosed, or now you know you aren't autistic
Is it just me or are Dr. Grande's videos comforting, no matter the topic? Love listening to his videos in the background while doing something else, they motivate me to get stuff done lol
hey that's Montréal's subway map !! ✌️
@@rp7604 You bet!
Yessss, same! His voice is almost monotone but not in an annoying way. It’s very soothing and grounding for me… something about the consistency of his temperament.
Yup
I fall asleep to him every night. His voice is very soothing. Luckily, I trust him enough to know he’s not brainwashing me in my sleep to help him take over the world. 😳
Thank you! We get a lot of people faking autism too: the worst part is they join autism groups and get offended at our often very blunt ways of communication, and then they chase actual autistics out of the group. They seem to think autism just means being a bit socially awkward, quirky or nerdy. Some of them seem to know the diagnostic criteria really well, and then complain that it's hard to get a diagnosis because they don't meet any of them. We call them "Munchausen's By Internet".
An autist would not be able to type this up.
Lmao
@@smackdashitoutchu7755 It was called Asperger's Syndrome when I was diagnosed back in the 2000s, these days it's lumped in with all autism spectrum conditions, including really severe autists who have additional special needs. I think the distinction is still important, because we have different needs. There's a move away from syndromes named after people and more towards names that describe the actual condition, but "high functioning autistic" would cover it.
After watching this, I have a strange desire to start not diagnosing anyone, but speculating on what may be going on.
It amazing how complex the human mind is. It’s also a little scary how much influence social media has over people’s minds and lives. I don’t do social media except for CZcams, and every time I see a Tik tok video or Facebook drama, I feel honestly glad. I feel free from the burden of having to care who does what in virtual reality.
You and me both brother.
Me too.
@@Monkeymoo1122 Sister. And it feels good to know Its not just me. Society is actually worse off with Tik Tok and Instagram, I think.
@@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis sorry, sister, I whole heartedly agree with you.
Same with the trans issue.
I had TS from age 6 to 22. I barked and contorted my neck, head, and arms. It went into remission and hasn’t really bothered me in almost 30 years.
I didn’t even realize that remission was possible… I thought the overt symptoms were lifelong but I’m glad I was wrong. That’s awesome!
@Beaverish Buck Teeth You can’t just fake an illness for 15 years straight.
I love the way Dr Grande says Tik --Tok. I’m definitely adopting this, and every time my 15 year old says she knows everything about a subject because she watched Tik-tok about it, I will proceed with a hysterical dancing episode.
I live in Germany and I remember how many children were mimicking him once he became really popular
I would've never thought that some of them would end up like this
It really shows how social media is taking over our society sometimes and that's kind of scary ...
One of the first things children learn to do is mimic. It's an early way of being accepted as part of the group (family, then friends) and the primary way behavior and communication is learned. Mimicry normally wanes when a child starts to become their own person in the adolescent years. My concern is that kids these days often never really grow up to be their own person. So many still depend on their parents as young adults and are often not forced to become independent as was historically the case. I suspect this might have something to do with the level of mimicry, immaturity and overall dependency on others often seen in many young adults (and even older adults) these days.
"Social media induced mass-hysteria", i.e. the new motto of the United States.
United in hysteria we stand, divided in common sense we fall.
Or the world. Lol
This can be applied to covid.... blm... etc....
It's all mass hysteria
USA: I'm offended by war.
Terror: So you won't fight back?
USA: That would be racist.
Terror: Dude, I have a gun and a bomb.....
USA: Did you just assume my gender?!
Also USA: Sit down snowflake.
USA: I have a gun you supremacist troll.
Also USA: And a communist manifesto.
USA: That's it I'm getting my gun.
Terror: So, what, you can fight each other but not me? Is it because I'm brown?
@@brian8507 if you would, explain your reasoning. And surely we would all like to hear some of the et ceteras
This is a crazy moment. Dr. Grande talks about Gewitter im Kopf. I was aware of his rise in popularity through some TV Broadcasts and subsequently making his YT Channel while growing more and more followers. Never grew to like his content though. But as a huge Dr. Grande Fan, it´s cool to see some german fellows getting covered on here. All the best and keep up the great content Dr. Grande! :)
I was also shocked to see his face in the thumbnail of a Dr. Grande video. Zimmermann is pretty sus with the very long and situational sentences. Like when he flys on a plane over eastern Germany and says “Hier stehen aber viele Häuser, da kann man den Soli buchstäblich sehen”. His tics are almost like a 2nd personality and he himself calls it “Gisela”,which is a old German women’s name. The German Tourette society also distances itself from him on their website.
@@Samsson83 That´s interesting to hear. Like i said i never really watched him after his initial rise to fame. All i remember is "Bombe!" & "Pommes!".
@@sonicsympson I’m also from Germany and I was never so excited of his content like other people my ages (I’m 21) I watched about 5 videos of him but then it stops
Same! Weird to have Dr. Grande discuss German CZcams😅
@@amdonner imagine him talking about an increase in gambling under young people because of twitch streamer Knossi :D
Incredibly important topic, thank you for covering it. Social media has created a pandemic of people identifying with mental disorders and or imitating mental disorders that they don’t genuinely have. It’s like a massive global mass hysteria that exists in background of the realm of mental health.
Those men who spend all day online whining about women are disturbing. Almost as if they're types women take out injunctions against offline.
They make those videos saying they don't want women, but instead of leaving women alone, they spend their time on the video comments trying to make women feel bad about themselves and promoting others abuse women.
Abigail Shrier's done a lot of work reporting on this phenomenon, she points out it's the same cohort (teenage girls with pre-existing mental health conditions) who went through other mental illnesses that seemed to be contagious among their peer group: drug addiction, eating disorders, self-injury, and various different kinds of each. In the 2010s there were "pro anorexia" communities of these girls online, and in the 2000s self-harm by cutting seemed to be more common. It's something that clinicians need to be more aware of and I'm glad you're bringing attention to it.
Yes!!!! Thank you for bringing her name up!! Abigail Shrier
The second I heard of this, 'sudden increase of social media related tics'. I immediately thought of her work alongside medical professionals. This is right there with social media influenced/induced behaviors.
Love Abigail Shrier's Irreversible Damage.
Might read that later seems very interseting.
I can tell you it is even way worse than this. Our kids are doing body alter as well, for the sake of fitting in. This generation of young teen when they grow up. if they grow up, will have a life time of regret for what they did just to fit in for the moment.
Shrier is awful and her book is contemptible rubbish. Nothing but fringe, un-scientific fearmongering, capitalizing on an already-existing moral panic.
I've come up with an even better name for this syndrome: "Kids being gullible syndrome" XD
My 10 year old granddaughter is forever showing me "hacks" she learned on tiktok. Things like there's a tray underneath the standard toaster. Yeah, it hurt a little (but was also hilarious) to tell her I'd known about that since I was 10. 🙄🤭😁😅🤣
for that reason Dr Grande should talk about rapid onset gender dysphoria.
Or kids will imitate anything for attention syndrome
I’m grateful the Salem witch trials didn’t happen when people had access to tiktok
I was thinking this too!
Ah but we have Twitter hate mobs and cancel culture. Not a lot has changed. It seems everyone enjoys a good hysteria, almost to the point that deprived of a good quality hysteria some people would experience existential angst.
I’d love to know the demographics of those who do cancel culture. I wonder if they are really young adults and tweens/teens. In that case, would it even matter or count?
@@myozbubble Young adult, teens today become the CEOs, academics, politicians and media reporters of tomorrow.
This can have some unfortunate consequences to the people who actually have Tourette Syndrome. For instance, it can get to a point when if someone say "I have Tourette", a lot of people will say things like "Of course you have, everybody has it nowadays". It's something that is already starting to happen with some other disorders.
I agree. It really devalues people’s experiences who are genuinely struggling. I’ve had pretty severe depression and mild anxiety from the time I was 14/15 until now (30) but it seems nowadays everybody is depressed or anxious when they’re actually just temporarily feeling blue or a bit nervous. I am in bed months on end (besides forcing myself to get to work) struggling to do the simplest tasks when my depression is at its peak. I’m not trying to minimize other peoples experiences or feelings and say mine matter more but it just doesn’t sit right with me.
This has happened to me quite a few times now. I’ve just turned 40 and was diagnosed with Tourette’s 30 years ago. I have a quite severe case and in the last 5 years the amount of people who apparently also have it has risen dramatically. But it’s often just what they think it is. It makes me sad as it means that genuine cases are getting the same treatment as these fake ones and dismissed
@@CarolineATRC The ability to have so much diagnostic information at our fingertips for every disease known to man/medical info in general, (Dr. Google) it causes a lot of self diagnosis as people will justify or manifest certain things due to anxiety or what not. I don’t know if all people that are “faking” are doing it genuinely… you know?
I hate it when people do this with ADHD.
Devaluating all your life long struggles, because Mandy on tik tok thinks hating going to work and not being able to focus some days of the year means she has a neuro developmental disorder...
"Social media induced mass-hysteria"
So you mean *literally everything on Twitter?* xD
😂😂😂😂
For real he could expand on this topic for hours
GOOD ONE!!!
and snapchat and instagram and facebook and redit.....
Social media as a whole
I feel like if there was a mass hysteria doctor Todd would just talk to people and it would go away
Well sadly he doesn't get as many views as the young women in 3 centimeters of makeup pretending to have tourettes on tiktok.
@@indiomoustafa2047 AMEN TO THAT!!! If people knew how much they could learn from Dr Grande they would be watching. I think hes getting around tho.
Not soon enough for how good he is. Have you watched the BELLAGRANDE MEDIA VIDEOS? W/ Two of his. colleagues. Vetry Interesting. Funny.
Farfromgoofin!!
It’s amazing to me the type of influencers people decide to emulate. If even a very small portion of the population would imitate influencers like Dr. Grande, the world would be a better place.
Fascinating topic Dr. Grande, thank you for the extra video.❤️
@LTrain45 45 Influencers can be emulated for positive proposals.
Dr grande is cool but I can't get over the fact that he thinks Scott Peterson is innocent 🤔
Rejane, I agree completely with your comment.
@@nocnoc9931 I have watched T.V.for the last 8years.
I find it actually REALLY dangerous For young ones. Especially in a time like this to where even family times spent together are separate from what it was 10 years ago. Phones have put a splint in between some of the most regular and most important times in ones life. BUT, when a kid feels as though they aren’t getting the attention they want or need. Not that they are in the right. But they see these tics, and hmmmmm “that won’t hurt anyone, I’ll get some attention I want. Maybe some love”. So it’s spread out and now furthering the line between people who need the help and the fakers.
Basically trying to say this is some SUPER fuel for kids, for those who feel inadequate for whatever reason… separating the lines not only in tics and Tourette’s, but trust… faking this. Then family finding out!! Especially if the family spent thousands on treating this abruptly fake but concerning symptoms. Weird world…
I looked at a couple of Zimmerman's videos where friends he was with were laughing away, as if Zimmerman was performing a comedy act. I don't speak German. I appreciate your take on persons who think they have Tourette's or DID. In my experience some therapists validate this behavior and get quite excited about it. Thanks for your perspective.
@Beaverish Buck Teeth
Would that be the sauna room?
A steam bath within the confines of hell?
That's seems a bit harsh, if not bad for the skin!
Petition to start referring to Dr. Grande as “Bigg Todd”, as he’s the only cool Todd most of us know.
What is his full name tho?! Todderick? Toddington? Toddbert?!🤔🤔
SpeculaTodd
@@Eden_M you win.
My dogs name is Todd...
You don't know enough Todd's I know 12 one my dad and the other my son...so no go for me...Dr Grande...he earned his degree give it to him
I am a master hysterical dancer. I know how to flail my arms like an inflatable man and do the can-can at the same time.
Do you ripple your body from toe to head while kicking your legs like a Rockette?
Bipolar me, as you’re speaking near the end of this video… “YES, YES AND YES.” It is far from glamorous to deal with a mental illness.
🥰
I'm sorry you have to deal with this, I have some? A few? mental issues in which I've been diagnosed with by a professional - I would hate for people to pretend they have issues when they do not especially for sympathy when the people who actually have to deal with them do not wish them on their worse enemy.
“Mental disorders are not fun, glamorous, or desirable.” 👍
Dr. Grande, that is very generous of you - a second video today! Thank you!💞
The Dr. Is truly a giving man ;)
7:55 there’s something so funny about how he says “tic tok” but great video. Always consistently great to see your content!!
I would’ve never imagined people do this. It’s not fun having Tourette’s. It’s frustrating.
It is so annoying, tiring and at times painful. It really frustrating that anyone would fake it.
@@topsuperseven7910 Are you really telling this person to stop having tourettes? Benefiting out of frustration? What? Am I misunderstanding?
@@topsuperseven7910 Lol okay lemme just stop having adhd then you absolute imbecile. Some people fake illnesses. Yes, they should stop. People with real conditions can't just stop. Hope you never have to deal with something similar.
@@topsuperseven7910 Okay yeah you're a troll, have a nice life 😂
@@topsuperseven7910 Keep baiting dude. I have literally zero fucks to give what you think. Not coming back to this what's the point 😂
Thankyou for explaining the silliness of some of the young ones. They won't like the weight gain from the prescribed treatments.
Cheers mike
I'm from Germany myself and discovered that Tourette-Channel some years ago. I really liked how he and his friend talked about it and how it is to live with it or as the best friend of someone with tourette. Over time their content went very entertainitive, I didnt liked that and became unaware of them, till today! :D
Shout-outs to all the peeps who thumbed up the video without possibly having watched it all the way through first.
RIGHT 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Are we supposed to actually watch it first? Oh...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with this subject. I myself got caught up in the conspiracy theories videos. Which caused severe depression and anxieties. After years in this rabbit hole, I just cold turkey 🦃 quit. It was the best thing I could have made. I’m one year free of mental manipulation by mass hysteria. Glad I got my brain back, thanks for people like you, showing us critical thinking practices. Kudos bro 😎
"Symptoms disappeared after psychotherapy"
Just a cover for the foundation giving antimemetics to civilians during containment procedure.
This is intriguing. Would you mind expanding on your thoughts?
Hysterical dancing happens to me every time Prince comes on. Sooo relatable. 😉🤣💜
I actually witnessed something like this when I was in high school It was long before social media, To summarize, marching band camp, Ferrum VA, early 1990s. It was extremely hot during the day, we were a competition band living in college dorms for the camp. We were pushed really hard. Ferrum is at a higher elevation, so when it cooled off, it cooled off fast. About midweek, a member of the color guard started having chills one evening, and then finally passed out. She had to be taken in for medical care. Thirty minutes later a drummer stumbled around and vomited, Both of those people were genuinely ill. However, after that, and for the rest of the week people started dropping or getting dizzy late in the day. I am sure some were faking, they tended to be the drama seekers, but I am also sure some truly believed they were on the verge of collapse. It is also work pointing out that after the first night this happened, we had more breaks and access to water throughout the day, so there is really no reason healthy teenagers should be dropping over like that.
I really appreciate you bringing attention to this, Dr. Grande. I once had a young girl tell me "you shouldn't say that's a learning disorder, that's like a super power!" No concept of the difficulties at all. Second, perhaps some of the young people just want to belong to a group, a fandom so to speak. We know that adolescence want to fit in, and so maybe they pick up these behaviors like they'd dress like a celebrity.
Re: super power instead of disability, my friend with Tourette’s is a phenomenal multi instrumentalist and brilliant, as well.
People with disabilities can accomplish incredible things! My grandmother was blind her whole life and never let that stop her. But if we ignore or even deny the struggle, then we aren't really celebrating the accomplishments.
@@stephaniekanoun4409 they really can! God bless your grandma!
When my son was 9 he was diagnosed with ADHD and Tourettes , his Tourette symptoms were throat clearing, and he would twitch his nose and upper lip. He eventually grew out of it.
"There's no such thing as social contagion!", they say...
A kid yelled at me "lying, cheating wh*re!" His parents, explained he has Tourette's but I said hey... He's not far off actually, I bet all my exes would agree 😂 we all had a good laugh... I definitely don't think this kid was faking it BTW
Lol. That got a snort outta me.
@@crystalkohlbrenner214 me too.. I burst out laughing, originally I think they were all a bit offended... Not once I explained why I was laughing so hard
🤭😅😂
What a trooper! Good for you! LOL
My daughter has a tic that says Doh! Mother F'r. If she tries to disrupt the latter part she ends up hitting her leg hard with her right hand. Her first tic was a high pitched repetition of die! In a almost cheerful tone.
I think hysterical dancing here may refer historically to ones like the "dancing plague" of 1518. There were a few of these events apparently in Europe and Africa from the 1400s-1700s
That's what I thought of too!! Nice catch
Yeah, I didn't know about the 2011 one. The Dancing Plague was the first place my mind went.
Oh you get that in many mega-churches in USA. Try Vineyard, Elevation, Bethel. They all have this mental stuff under the guise of the holy spirit when it is really a manifestation of Hinduism.
@@andytyrrell5153 I doubt manifestation of Hinduism, but mass hysteria doesn't sound far off from that thing where "worship songs" follow patterns that cultivate and set up specific feelings and reactions that are then credited to "the Holy Spirit" when mainly that when this chord resolves to this chord, it does thus-and-such in the brain... A lot of thus-and-such in large crowds all doing the same thing at the same time.
My grandparents attended Willow Creek.
I came here to say this. The dancing plague followed actual bubonic plague (hence the name), so it seems likely that the stress of it could cause the hysterical dancing. If I remember correctly, it started with one person and then other people would join. Some of them died of exhaustion, too.
It appears to be good for society that some of the negative stigma associated with getting mental health treatment has gone away. However, it may be that the pendulum has swung too far the other direction and now it carries positive social benefit for some people to identify with mental health disorders, whether they actually have them or not
I agree!
"Social benefit"
In this case, simply getting attention and validation. It's mostly teenagers doing this.
I wish you would do a segment on factitious disorder and how to help someone who has it.
The topic was, in fact, as innovative as hysterical dancing, Dr. Grande 😂
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I'm developing a dry, deadpan sense of humor, and have started moving the houseplants around, as my form of mass hysteria. Could be worse.
One of the MOST relevant and educational videos I've seen produced by Dr. Grande.
First time two episodes in one day, astonishing! Dr. Grande is so conscientious.
Hello there! 👍. Appreciate your critiques. The US does mass hysteria very well.
United in hysteria we stand. Divided in common sense we fall.
Hi Doctor Grande, can I request you to analyze the killer Seito Sakakibara? I was pretty intrigued on why he committed the acts he did.
I think my favorite thing about watching Dr. Grande analyze what might be happening in cases like these is that while he is delightfully dry and so very entertaining, he never negates the reality of the situation.
Thank you Dr Grande. Two videos in one day ,really makes my day Great analysis and topic. Thank you once again Dr Grande.
i had to spend time at larue carter in the 80s. One man had tourettes and was always tying to talk to me. But it just always came across as screaming at me and yelling obscenities. he always yelled "smurfette". I was a kid, and didn't know what was wrong with him and he scared me. Years later, when I understood, I felt bad for him. I have often wondered what happened to him. I hope he's ok. Today, he probably wouldn't be locked up for his condition, but it was a different time back then...Also, the meds they gave me, made me make this grunting kind of noise in teh back of my throat. even though the doctor said it was normal, it drove people crazy and I would get in trouble for doing it. but I couldn't help it. I spent a lot of time standing in a square on the floor, making that stupid sound that I tried sooooo hard not to make. In that way, I know how awful this kind of condition must be to have.
@carrielange I had the same sort of thing. In college I followed a guy who must have had a similar class as mine most mornings, at the same time, and the same path to the same building. He would talk to himself quietly and then have a tourette type expression and they were the same each morning. His one arm would swing out and his head would turn and he would swear loudly. It would happen several times along this walk. I wonder how he dealt with being in class.
In the movie “What About Bob” his biggest fear was contracting tourets.
Great movie
I remember that movie:) VHS Blockbuster days were awesome.
I LOVE that movie!
Two videos on the same day! You are spoiling us Dr Grande!
Man you are becoming a great resource for therapists who work with young adults. Thanks!
I speak German. I can go look at it for you. Hold please!
Well, if I was dancing and someone asked me to be more hysterical? I'm a choreographer and dance teacher. I guess I would flail more in very big over exaggerated movements?
Do you think mirror neurons are involved?
Perfect I was wondering just this!
You're a genius! I adore your videos, Dr Grande!
I'm going to look at his channel for you.
I watched the video Leben mit Tourettes
Which means "life with tourettes". He is sitting with his mother.
His mother positively reinforces his ticks with laughter and pats. That's one thing that could be going on. Unintentional Operant conditioning.
Which might be why some of his ticks are kind of odd to you or seem out of the ordinary.
Oh, good lord, this is a huge can of worms.
Could this actually be *worse* for his tourettes? He calls himself, in the video, her funniest son. And from what I understand she agrees with that assessment and fully accepts him and his tics which is amazing. You want your mother to accept you with open arms even if you have a disorder. She does, they seem to have a great relationship...however she finds the tics highly amusing and laughs at them. This *could be* positively reinforcing some of the tics. Or at least the context of the tic.
Yes, we should accept those with a disability with open arms and end stigma...but at what point are we accidentally positively reinforcing the tics...and would they worsen due to this? Or become more vulgar?
Thats what I saw off the bat. I don't know if it would worsen the urge to blurt out or have a tic...I think it might change what the tic references? Like he neurologically can't control the urge to tic... but peoples reaction (positive or negative) might change what the context of the tick is about?
I don't actually know much about Tourettes or if you could positively reinforce this and if operant conditioning could be applied to it, however thats what it looked like to me.
I found this study on operant conditioning and vocal tics: "Functional analyses were used to assess the effects of environmental consequences on occurrences of repetitive vocal behavior that had been diagnosed as chronic vocal tics in two adolescent males with mental retardation. The functional analyses indicated that one participant's tics were sensitive to positive reinforcement in the form of caregiver attention, while the second participant's tics occurred independent of social consequences. The results are discussed in terms of using functional analysis methodology during assessment, diagnosis, and treatment selection for suspected tics. Copyright © 2002 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd."
This person doesn't suffer from retardation, but someone has studied the topic of positive reinforcement on vocal tics before.
I hope this helps.
I know that the video wasn't about him, per se. If other people observed that positive relationship and how he made his mom laugh by doing tics...I could see a person without Tourette's trying to mimic this for social acceptance and attention maybe from their parents.
So you didn't actually interpret anything, you just gave your opinion that Turrets is caused by people giving positive reinforcement for tics. Great. Very helpful of you . Now our kids with Turrets can be harrassed by their teachers even more, you did a great job. No, dear, Turrets is not reinforced behavior, they do it as part of thinking, and there's not a lot that can stop it. Sometimes meditation helps and my son does the pranna breathing to replace the throat clearing which is hurting his throat. But yeah, you just stoked the harrassment of people with Turrets so their lives can be even more fucked with. Hey, reading is fundamental, try it, you can learn a lot.
@@Hollylivengood I think you mean Tourette's not Turrets. Those are two wildly different things. It's very disturbing to me that you are a mother of a child who has Tourette's syndrome yet you can't spell the disorder. If your child is operating a turret you are an unfit parent. 😂
@@RikodiusRex Wow, that's amazing. It's great that you can notice that I suck at spelling. Like, no one would notice that. You are right, I can't spell for love or money, never have. However, I have spent a good 28 years working with doctors, physical therapists, volunteering, and generally busting my ass to help my son through his Tourette"s - is that how you spell it? Like is that corect?Is this right for you? -syndrome. He's had one corrective surgery to fix a throat problem he developed fro repettitive clearing his throat. I'm forever e-mailing the police explaining to them that no, he's not on meth, he just jerks shrugging like that because he has Turrets sindrome, sindrom, syndrome hey got it, and they don't seem to care if it's spelled wrong, however, we all know each other now from about four years of interaction on this topic. Thank god the school system is better educated, however the kids who bullied him every day for a solid eight years of his life until a gang, yes, the Bloods intervened when the teachers wouldn't and literally provided an escort for him through school so he didn't get assaulted by the many kids wanting to prove their man hood, were only educated somewhat the same as you. At least they could spell. So nice one. You did a great job.
Lauren, I understood your point. My nephew has tourettes. His main tic involves snapping his head around on his neck hard, and then back. From earliest days we gently reminded him not to snap his head. We didn't encourage it, or laugh. When his stress escalates he can't stop it. But as a grown adult he thanks us for showing him early how to contain the tic he did out of habit vs need. He said that helped him be less weird to others. His parents refused meds for him but his determination got him through. And guess what, despite physical tics, and occasional verbal bursts no one ever had to deal with, or write misspelled letters to the police about him.
@@Hollylivengood My point here, Holly, is not to correct your spelling, it is that Tourettes is an unavoidable neurological outburst. The CONTENTS of the outburst, what is said during the outburst, whether it be profane or a phrase, as Jan says in German "Mörder!" (which means in English "Murderer!") might be positively or negatively reinforced by those *around* the individual during the Tic.
Could the reaction of those whose opinion he values most, obviously his mother, or maybe his viewers, over time, change the context of the word said during the tic. Over time, it may either positively or negatively reinforce the thing that is *said* during the tic?
During a vocal tic, why does he choose the word "Murderer" and not, IDK, "Obst und Gemüse!" ("Fruit and Vegetable!" in English)?
Now, the word "Murderer!" is something he could have picked up from a TV drama where someone often can be seen making this outburst in a crowd,
maybe that is why he chooses this specific word.) It would not, however, *stop* a vocal tic outburst. I'm more interested in how the person with the tic chooses (unconsciously) what words are contained in the outburst. The words and things that are said are not something that is chosen consciously and deliberately...it is an unconscious choice.
Which is very interesting and helpful for therapists and loved ones to know to better treat and manage and build relationships with those with the disorder.
I told Dr. Grande that I would look at the video. Watching him interact with his mother, his care giver, and how she responds and reacts to his tics are the most obvious things that I notice. Their relationship is a positive one. That is such an amazing thing.
What I said about my observation contains zero stigma or promotes persecution of those with Tourettes syndrome.
You can not escape operant conditioning and positive and negative reinforcement. For example: the "like button" and "downvote button" on CZcams? These are both positive and negative reinforcement tools. Did youtube create them to mind control and train people? No. However, these things help others communicate what they like or don't like. When we receive either positive or negative feedback this, over time, can condition ourselves to change our behavior to gain social approval from others. For example: he says someone is ugly as one of his outbursts. It's not very nice to hear and probably makes people laugh but can also hurt peoples feelings unintentionally. It may cause him social distress and may cause others emotional distress. I do not think that Jan wants people to be unintentionally hurt by this tic...If this tic can be managed with conditioning there might be a way to change that tic to some other word. Thats a big deal if that is the case. It could make people with this syndrome more comfortable managing vocal tics and outbursts.
Operant conditioning: This is something natural about human behavior that occurs every day. Most often unintentionally, however therapists and psychologists use this tool to help people with mental health disorders manage their symptoms. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy would be a great example of how something like this would be used consciously to heal people, not just those with Tourettes.
I did make a joke about Turets, which is a military grade mounted weapon. If you wrote to the police saying your son had turets, I can imagine this would actually be the thing that is making your child persecuted. Those weapons aren't exactly street legal. You basically told the police your child has a mounted military grade artillery weapon. If you were trying to get law enforcement to leave your kid alone don't write letters saying your kids got illegal firearms.
Its important to spell the disorder properly.
I am from germany and I know his channel. His main purpouse of the channel is to inform people about the tourette Syndrome. For example there are Videos of him visiting his Doktor and informing what is impossible for him with the desease. A lot of the time he is just entertaining people and doing fun on bis channel.
I love your videos Dr. Grande!
I like Dr Grande because he does not ramble on. He gets to the point. Liked hearing about the latest illness, especially mimickers.
Wow, fantastic video. Thank you so much for spending the time to cover this topic.
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts about how this could be prevented and navigated within social media spaces. Part 2?
This is a huge problem in my house hold. I have 2 daughters but especially one more than the other that is either mimicking or truly believing that she has DID or autism or some other illness (because of social media) . They are both in therapy but since covid and it's restrictions inwhich everything is via telemedicine the counseling impact is not the same at all. So it's a struggle to get them off the track of the belief or mimics of other disorders.
They should be limited or stopped from accessing social media/ and or internet. And you should inspect what they are accessing.
I am locked in. Was really waiting for the video to drop. Dr G at his best .
Bravo 👏🏼 Dr Grande!! I celebrate once again the fluidity of your presentation and how plain and simple you give your conclusion!! ❤️ it!!!
Did I just hear you pronounce it “Tick Tok”, Dr. Grande? 😂 I swear I could hear the pun in your tone. Well done, sir 👏
tick pause tock
@@hula691 Yes! That’s it!
What was the pun sorry?
@@eadweard. The app is spelled Tik Tok, but it felt like he said it with the spelling “tick”, which is a symptom of Tourette’s. How can you hear the spelling, you may ask? I dunno myself 😂 It’s just my assumption Dr. Grande’s cheekiness came through momentarily.
@@DrLC. ohhh yeah cheers!
I'm German and I watched many of his videos. He's hilarious. They mostly do normal stuff and see if the guy gets triggered. Sometimes they do Q&A stuff. He comes off as really likable and funny and even his mother is in some of his videos, also answering questions about how raising a kid with touretts was etc. I feel like while mostly what they do on his channel is entertainment, they also humanise people with this disorder, which I think is a great thing.
I would have never thought people could start unconsciously start copying his tics.
Is there an English translation?
@@jaguar5455 Not that I know of. But I think some of his videos would be funny, even if you didn't understand the language. Like them trying to bake a cake.
@@jaguar5455 He also recently had a surgery for his epilepsy and his Tourette's has gotten much much better as well.
I am so glad you filmed a video about this!!! The new onslaught of videos about these conditions has spread so much misinformation. Always appreciate your level-headed insight and fact checking ✔
Another great video! This is a topic I have been worried about for a while now. I’m glad you posted another one, the ones on DID are how I found your channel originally.
Can we, please, live a life like Dr. Todd describes at the end? Oh how much of a better world we would have! 🌎❤️
It's heading that way but we must go thru 🔥 "hell" to get to heaven.🌅🌌
The trials and tribulations 😢 will be well worth it! 🎭😉
It's a movie 📺 with a 🌠 Grand finale!!
This reminds me someone I know telling a story about a birthday party where people were getting drunk and pretty crazy and realizing only after that they all had been drinking alcohol free beer the whole time. Someone acidentally bought alcohol free beer.
Thank you for the wrap up here, Dr Grande.
Dr Todd...you are the filing best!...your so soothing to listen to.
I look forward to when mass (un) hysteria of altruism and compassion take over.
My son who's 16 yrs old has Tourettes. It started in grade 3 with ADHD, anxiety, learning issue's then slowly we started noticing body tics at 6th grade. It's been an upward struggle ever since. As he matures though we've notice somethings he's got better control of, even has diminished some. Watching this really peeved me. Not from the good Dr's point of view but this so called trend kid's follow regarding the subject.
You know that old saying that your parents told you growing up ex " don't cross your eyes because they will stay that way" or "don't make fun of someone because tomorrow it could be you" kinda jaz.
Sometimes learnt behavior does actually stay as permanent behavior. You think it's a joke now until you just can't stop. Don't ever underestimate the power's of the human brain children. I will pray for them all. 🙏
Eye crossing doesn't stay. 😄
I watch Dr Grande everyday while I get ready for the day! I enjoy this content!
Another outstanding and thorough analysis -thank you Dr. Grande for your dedicated hard work!
TikTokers have been faking this syndrome quite often lately.
Thoroughly enlightening and entertaining Dr. Grande, ‘ hysterical dancing’ yes that’s just incredibly funny 😂😂 thanks so much 💗💕
What a treat 2 videos in 1 day, ty Dr Grande.
oh wow, thank you, dr. grande for addressing this topic. as a woman with ts, prof. müller-vahl has been my doctor for many years, and she briefly touched this topic during my last visit. i was stunned, since i had not watched the gewitter im kopf channel before, nor did i ever since. so glad now😂
oh, and i recommend hysterical dancing to anyone: with friends in a club or alone in the living room. it work wonders for stress relief and experiencing joy and having plain old fun off social media 😅😄
-- sorry my shift key is a mess --
People really need to pick better role models to follow!
Great video Dr Grande!!
You are the company you keep has some validity!
Dr. Grande, could you review the case of Shoko Asahara
(the mastermind behind the sarin gas attack in Tokyo)?
Thanks for tackling this important topic, we really need it right now. Thanks for being brave and for sharing!!!
I was just reading about this! The timing! Thank you!!! 🥰
With all this being possible... How about some "Hysterical Intelligence" for a nice change of pace?
I wish! That would be fantastic :)
Dr. Grande, my understanding is that functional disorders are not dishonest or under the person's control (though the patient may resist the diagnosis). They are confusing and often misdiagnosed, but I don't think that makes them fake. In other words, functional disorder aren't malingering.
Richtig.
Aber eine Antwort von Dr.Grande wirst Du wohl nicht erhalten. Er gibt hier nur diese "mag"- Herzchen, und dass (soweit ich das bisher sehen konnte) auch nur bei Beiträgen, die ihm schmeicheln. Ein inhaltlicher Austausch, antworten auf Rückfragen zum Thema oder eine Unterhaltung findet nicht statt.
@@bittehiereinfugen7723 Hab gar nicht den Eindruck, dass Nina eine Antwort erwartet. Ansonsten kann ich deine Beobachtung bestätigen. Er diskutiert nicht mit. Weiß nicht wie's ganz am Anfang war, aber bei täglichem upload würd es mich wundern, wenn er dafür noch Zeit aufbringen könnte.
@@tonka9573 Ach herrje, mir fällt jetzt erst auf, dass auf Deutsch geantwortet habe 🤣 wo habe ich bloß meinen Kopf?
Bzgl. des Posts, auf den ich geantwortet habe: keine Ahnung wie das Zeitmanagement von Dr. Grande aussieht. Ich kenne den Kanal jetzt noch nicht so ewig lange, habe aber zunehmend den Eindruck, dass es nur um ein Maximum an Clicks bei gleichzeitig sinkender inhaltlicher Qualität geht.
@@bittehiereinfugen7723 das ist witzig, dachte du hättest auf Ninas Kanal geklickt und wärst dir sicher sie spräche deutsch. lol
Schaue mir seit einem Jahr hier und da mal ein Video von ihm an, in einem davon, hat er seinen Tagesablauf beschrieben. Macht auf jeden Fall Abstriche der Herr.
Dein Eindruck ist richtig. Täglich, manchmal zwei mal am Tag, Video hochladen ist aus meiner Sicht zu viel. Im Sinne von, da kann der Inhalt ja nur drunter leiden. Drei mal die Woche würde vollkommen reichen. Recherche und die Entwicklung seiner eigenen Gedanken zum Thema nimmt die meiste Zeit ein und diese Zeit kürzt er unnötig aus quantitativen Zwecken. Das liegt denk ich auch sehr an seiner Fanbase, die ihn kaum kritisch hinterfragt und die Quantität befürwortet.
@@tonka9573 Das er in zunehmendem Maße auf seine Fans eingeht ist mir auch aufgefallen; besonders was seinen- von vielen in der Kommentarsektion gefeierten- trockenen Humor angeht. Den scheint er gezielt ausgebaut zu haben. Naja, gibt schlimmeres.
Mich haben anfangs seine Videos zu Krankheitsbildern interessiert. Da ich in der Psychiatrie gearbeitet habe interessierte mich, wie einige der Diagnosen in den USA eingeordnet werden.
Das was er jetzt macht- die Analysen von zum Beispiel Straftätern- ist kein Hexenwerk. Jeder klinische Psychologe kann Dir nach 10 Minuten "Aktenstudium" eine grobe Einschätzung eines Täters/ eines Patienten geben.
Aber es gibt hier ja nicht umsonst so viele Kanäle, die in der einen oder anderen Form Kriminalfälle behandeln.
Falls Dich so etwas interessiert kann ich Dir "Coffeehouse Crime" empfehlen.
Dr. Grande! You're my favorite channel
Dr. Grande, thank you for all your hard work on these matters. I really like your analysis.
Dr Grande i would like to suggest you take a look at the Michael McDonald case, it is the most insane selfmade spiral out of control case ive seen in a child custody battles and it would be really interesting to know what you think about it.
Like the singer Michael McDonald?
@@samuelward1148 lol no, this one is a man from Las Vegas (i believe) that goes through a divorce and then a custody battle with his wife that escalates so damn fast and in ways you never see coming.
I picture hysterical dancing as St. Vitus' Dance.
Another great video! Many thanks as always, Dr. Grande!❤️
I always look forward to your videos thank you for great entertainment 😊
Is there a cactus syndrome? Asking for a friend.
hi dr. grande, ever thought of doing this kind of analysis on fictional characters also? i feel like it would make a nice addition to this format!
I love your moral compass Dr. G. Always spot on!
Love your wisdom..... Awww you inspired me to continue to finish my Ph.D.. you are amazing... You are the best phycologist.. you true role model to many of us. Love your knowledge and wisdom.