This show is getting HEAVY... *Chernobyl Ep. 2* Reaction
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Hey guys!! Heres Chernobyl ep 2!! This... felt so much heavier because the gravity of the situation really began to set in. You felt the desperation being portrayed and the fear people began to feel and I think that was portrayed wonderfully in this episode. It made me very nervous and tense so although I didn't feel the best, you know the show is good if its able to do that, enjoy everyone!!
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This show is getting HEAVY... Chernobyl Ep. 2 Reaction
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She's worried about the dog
Looks around nervously....
Uh……. Yeah…… Hmmm…..
she will be destroyed on episode 4
Oh dear
"Oh you poor sweat summer child". 😭
Yeah, you might just want to fast forward over most of episode 4. Not a good episode for animal lovers….
Vladimir Pikalov, the general who said he was going to the powerplant instead of sending one of his soldiers to their doom, was one of the most important figures of the disaster;
He fought in WW2, where he was wounded THRICE, and took part in the battle of Minsk, Kursk and Poznan. Despite his wounds he survived the war and entered the Voroshilov Higher Military Artillery School, where he graduated with a degree in military chemistry and engineering. From there, he was promoted to chief of the chemical service of the division, senior officer, deputy, chief of chemical troops of the military district and deputy chief of the military academy of education and research.
Finally, from March 1968 to December 1988 he served as head of the Chemical Troops of the USSR Ministry of Defense and was INSTRUMENTAL in the efforts done in Chernobyl. His knowledge of chemistry allowed him to command the liquidators and army to minimize the effects of the disaster and map the areas that had received the most radioactive fallout.
The radiation he absorbed left him partially blind, with a long list of health issues until the day he passed, and he is without a doubt one of the many unsung heroes of Chernobyl.
Didn’t he say after that he chose to go take those initial readings himself, because he knew that thanks to his war record etc, he was pretty much the only one that they wouldn’t dare question? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
Wow, that is some great background info. How did you come to know all this? Are you a historian, or did you just research this after watching this show, or…?
When this guy volunteered to go in place of his men, I teared up. A person with that level of integrity and courage would inspire respect. His men would follow him anywhere.
Perhaps not entirely unsung: in December of the year of the Chernobyl Disaster, he was awarded Hero of the Soviet Union (equivalent to a U.S. Congressional Medal of Honor).
That’s a true leader…Never ask you men to do something you wouldn’t do yourself.
"Thats not someones dog, they took their animals, right?" I am so-so-so sorry for what is to come.
Spoiler alert, but also trigger warning.
Yeah, I think that dog is there simply as a warning device for anybody knowing watching this with someone else. Whoever reacts sadly to that one dog won't be ok to watch further.
Yeah she's going to REEEEEALY hate the next two episodes.
She's gonna need boxes of tissues.
Yeah for 'Chernobyl', the "HEAVY" is just the beginning...
The moment Boris gets hit by the realization that he is practically dead already is my favorite scene in the series. He completely stops being concerned about his political career and just gets to work to handle the disaster. And it is done trough pure acting. Stellar cast in this series, but leads Stellan Skarsgård and Jared Harris take the cake.
Each episode builds and gets harder to watch. Letting you know right now to bring three boxes of tissues, an emotional support blanket, a friend, a cup of cocoa, and a bottle of vodka to get through episode 4.
And bring an emotional support animal, hugged my cat for a solid 10 min after THAT episode (you know which one)
u may offer what ever tissues u have but know it may not be enough
hard to imagine that this actually happened
I am always baffled by people struggling more with 4 than with 3. I can't say anymore because I don't want to spoil anything but I just think personally episode 3 is harder to watch than 4.
@Hey, I hope you're doing okay. same. I find 3 much worse especially because I know they toned it down for the show
One thing this show captured very well is how everybody is scared to death to take any responsibility. Or even to speak out against superiors. Because everyone knows thats how you get killed or sent to a workcamp... but if nobody speaks the truth and nobody takes responsibility for anything what do you get?
I'd go as far as to say that's what this show is actually about. The nuclear disaster is just the vehicle to show the dangers of complacency.
Thus, the tagline "What is the cost of lies?".
This is the endgame to ever-expanding government power, which is why you do everything you can to keep it as small and as limited as possible. No matter what. When it gets powerful enough to give you everything you want, it becomes powerful enough to take away anything IT wants and the people learn to live in terror of it - they have no choice to do otherwise.
@@Ellis_Hugh That's just ideological whining. It's not a governmental issue, it's a management issue. Most of the characteristics (blame gaming, ignoring facts, wishful thinking, etc) is found within corporations, projects, etc. as well - not just "big government".
Boris Johnson?
@@Ellis_Hugh Cool story. Try Somalia for smallest-gubmint-possible. Leave your nonsense with the pirates there.
Despite his gruff nature, Scherbina was already starting to take Legasov more and more seriously as he began to see the wreckage for himself. @9:28, when he arrives to find Brukhanov and Fomin ready with a list of names and a lot of shade to throw on Legasov, his BS detector is screaming at him. The one thing you have to remember is that Scherbina was a senior party official. During his career, he's probably seen more of this kind of weasel-ass behavior than you or I have sunrises. So, he decides to test the waters with the graphite comment. The second Fomin pipes up about burnt concrete, Scherbina knows the jig is up.
exactly. That "why did I see graphite" was Boris fishing, and he caught one.
@@jakubfabisiak9810 Yup! ^_^
offtopic but voivod fuckin rules
@@semtexwiller I wish I had the skills to cut a fan video of 'Overreaction' to this show. It would be effing EPIC! Hey, Voivod fans, here's a challenge!
I love that scene so much. I've rewatched Chernobyl a couple of times in its entirety but I've also gone back and watched my favorite scenes in isolation several more times that that, and that scene always makes the cut. Just as you described, Boris is no dummy and easily senses that the underlings are trying to throw Legazov under the bus. He offers them a chance to put their money where their mouth is, basically calling their bluff at the same time (or handing them the rope to hang themselves with, as it were) and immediately catches them on their bullshit with the concrete.
If I remember correctly there's even a slight hint of surprise and appreciation on Legazov's face when this happens, as he sees that Boris has his back. Such a great scene.
The general couldn't ram into the fence going forward cause the dosimeter was connected to the front of the vehicle. So he rammed it by backing into it. When I saw this I knew they were really paying attention to a lot of detail.
1 of the 3 died of heart disease a few years ago. Heart disease is not a radiation related illness. The other 2 are still alive. All 3 were hospitalized for a few months after going into the water but it's the water that saved there life. Radiation doesn't go through water well so the men avoided a lethal level of absorption.
Yeah you might want to qualify that with a spoiler alert since she didn't watch that yet? ....
@@Stubbies2003 you...you realize that is all public information on something that happened 36 years ago right? "Spoilers" aren't a thing for this...
@@YourGodStalinI know it's late but that's a pretty dumb reasoning. This is a tv show. There's many people watching without prior knowledge, who probably want to receive the info by the flow/pace of the show. So yeah, 'spoiler' is absolutely a thing for this.
Love how Boris comes off like an arrogant and corrupt politician but then it’s revealed he’s been listening to Legasov and he’s a much more reasonable leader and better man than first impressions suggested
I've said it before, but I am so glad that Gorbachev was General Secretary at the time. He was at least willing to listen to experts. Can you image what might have happened if this happened with any of his predecessors.
according to my parents Khrushchev was not that bad
Lenin would listen, he cared for his people, Stalin probably would use the Exclusion Zone for prisoners
Just imagine Putin, who let the Kursk submarine go down, refused help, and allowed all the sailors inside to die in horrible conditions...
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Also Vkunia:: "Now I'm going to watch Chernobyl"
“They left the animals to die?”
Don’t worry, they’ll be back for them
Yeah, they're sending a team of specialists to take care of them 🙄 🤥
Well, if my dog had been iradiated, I would shoot without hesitation. That kind of suffering shouldn't be endured by any living thing
13:07
Calling about out friend = asking about the catastrophe (the one in the country)
Nephews and cool weather = using *sth* to cool down the reactor
Simka whos 14 and Boris whos 5 = the "nephews they're using are Silicone, which has the atomic number of 14 (14th element on the periodic table) and Boron, which has the atomic number of 5 (5th element of the periodic table)
smart way to dodge surveillance on phone calls
Silicon, not silicone (no e), silicone is a rubbery substance used as caulking and breast implants... Silicon is an element that's part of sand, used for semiconductor wafers, solar cells, etc. They are very very different things.
The sound design and score throughout the series are impeccable. They provoke such emotion.
Watching this show first time had me in a cold sweat. What this series makes me contemplate the most though is, did the radiation cloud that spread across Europe contribute to my friend getting leukemia and dying aged 30. Because he was living in Europe as a child, and one of the consequences of the disaster is increased cancer rates in the population.
Something that you have to understand about the Soviet system (or any totalitarian system, really) is that failure was not an option; everything had to appear to be good and perfect, or else the system would fall apart. Absolute authority must always be right. Admitting there was a problem could cost you your job, or worse. So, no one is willing to admit that there's a problem, because for them, the consequences are just as bad either way.
Gorbachev himself was quoted as saying: “The nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl 20 years ago this month, even more than my launch of Perestroika, was perhaps the real cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union five years later.”
Which leads to the final moral point: they are giving more value to their careers, and to whether or not they will be blamed, than to the lives that are going to be sacrificed in Chernobyl. In the US, we're now living cowardly times, with politicians deadly afraid of the main tweets of a crazy politician and the stupid death threats of his supporters; if you take this into account, I'm sure it's easy to understand all the people who just shifted blame around and kept saying 'I did the right thing, it wasn't my fault' all the time. But it doesn't make it any morally lighter. They are consciously letting thousands die. For fear. Fear of losing their careers, or even of ending in a labor camp. Still, lives. Lives.
Oh that ending... dear lord that is so well done.
The crash at 12:18 is one of my only complaints of the show. That they give the impression that the core brought down the chopper, but it was an accident. Look at the clip, and you will see that the crane is the reason, look for the falling hoist. (low center) That did happen in 1986, I just wanted the show to not misrepresent what was happening.
Also, BIG box of tissues for episode 4.
The core could have(it didnt tho) made the helicopter crash too. The core emits neutrons which can fuse with the cores of the metal the helicopter is made of and due to radioactive Beta(-) decay the helicopter will be made out of complettly different elements with different properties.
The way i understood it was that the pilot became too affected by the radiation and therefore couldnt control his chopper anymore and then crashing into the crane. I dont think that they implied that the radiation brought down the chopper with some technical problems or stuff.
@@KGR0 I can not say either way, just that that the show seemed to indicate that it was 100% the radiation. Either way, it does not really take away from the show.
@@hawkthorn33 I didn't think it indicated that at all, just that it was like K G said, the radiation/smoke affected the pilot and they hit the crane, because that to me is very clear.
The only technical issue displayed was the radio communication which was a given anyway.
There was indeed a helicopter that crashed almost exactly as they showed it, but it happened much later in the liquidation efforts and was due to the pilot clipping the crane cable. The footage is available on CZcams.
You summed up the feeling of watching this perfectly - panic and dread.
12:45 they couldn't use a hose or foam. First, because foam wouldnt work as Boron was needed to absorb the radiation not just extinguish the fire. Second, Boron is a metalloid. Not a liquid that can be shot out of a hose. Coupled with the sand, it would be far too clunky and heaving to use a hose. In reality, very little of the Boron was able to even get to the core but there was nothing else they could have done with their resources at the time
Catapults, perhaps?
@@MichaelPower212 Okay, the Soviets weren't thaaat far behind... hahaha...
Or were they?
I thought she made a good point actually, something like a concrete Placer truck could have pumped a sand and boron slurry,, but maybe those weren't available yet
@@scourge3162 no, cause radiation will radiate each truck
@@MichaelPower212 trebuchet better tho
VK, epidose 4 is going to be really tough and intense for you. Hopefully, you have seen it by now and went to a massage therapist or spa afterward. I feel for you and your love of animals, but Chernobyl has no pity for the tender-hearted. I do wish you the best as you get through this amazing series.
This was to show the mindset of the Soviet Union at the time. Party loyalty and rank was superior to everything. The leaders had started under Stalin, where "Shoot the messenger" was a real thing.
Also, everything was a state secret. To admit a problem at the reactor would first require admitting the reactor existed at all. Highways, railroads, and even whole cities didn't exist on Soviet era maps because it was deemed unnecessary for people to know about them.
This is a feature film, not a documentary. In a feature film, the author can come up with scenes that did not exist, and the atmosphere that he wants to create, and not the real situation. In this case, the series uses Western stereotypes about the USSR.
@@NameRiioz mmmm, yes and no, what he mentioned above IS ALL TRUE, I AM FROM AN EX COMMUNIST BLOCK, and unfortunatly all that shit WAS REAL , to try to deny it is rly annoying to see, and quite frankly an insult to all the victims that dared to go against it, because there were plenty of east stereotypes that get promulgated through the west and it's mass media/movies, some of them quite annoying, but thous were defenetly NOT one of them, people got in real shit if they impliyed that something went wrong due to the leaders decisions, and ofc in order to be in any milde important pozition, YOU HAD to be part of the communist party and thus the implication was that you are also accusing the comunist party of incompetence, a big no no, witch will earn you a visit from the local politia(or militia as they were called in my country) and teach you not so kindly through beatings how WRONG you are, and ofc, should you continue to missbehave you were sent to "reeducation" should you continue to misbehave after that, prison.
Love this series and your reactions. Evacuation scene was probably my favorite, this eerie music and real message of evacuation gives my goosebumps. And here is more facts about Chernobyl related to this episode:
- The firefighter's clothes are still to this day in hospital's basement, still radioactive but not dangerous anymore, up until recent years it was open for tourists, but they had to close it for security reasons
- Helicopter crash happend actually months later, during Sarcophagus construction - it hit a crane with propellers.
- Meltdown of the core happend shortly after explosion, as it stoped being cooled down (and any fission also stoped as it exploded) and heated to melting temperature form decay heat, and immediately began to eat its way through concrete into basement.
- Evacuation - I've read somewhere that in Kiev people on 28th knew something was odd, as there was literally no busses on any line in the city as all of them were taken for evacuation. During evacuation people were told it was only temporary, and they will return after 3 days, to take only documents, meds and nessesery things. Dogs and animals were left behind not to spread contamination.
- During second meeting with Gorbachev it was told about chances of another explosion if lava melted down into water tanks - size of that explosion was vastly overestimated in the show as they told it will have power of 4MT, that's thermonuclear bomb power level - in reality they were worried that if the explosion happen, it could damage reactors 1-3 (3rd was right next to 4th) which could lead to another open core - which would be twice as bad as it was, at least. But that explosion would affect only the power plant itself, and would not have power of thermonuclear bomb as told in the show.
- Divers - SPOILER ALERT - as you mention, all of them survived this and one of them died in 2005 of heart attack. Non of them suffered from radiation, as thankfully deep water is a good ratiation shield, and they had to work in complete darkness as thier lamps stoped working.
- Surprisingly Polish response to Chernobyl disaster was at first very good - when radiation monitoring station on 28th picked up reading of extreamly high radiation carried from east soon determined to be of reactor core origin, and as Polish government had no information form Moscov of what's going on, they decided to act in best interest of Polish people, after they learned from western media about disaster. They decided to distributed to people Lugola medicatiob, which contains stable iodine - within few hours 18.5 million people received it, mostly children. They orderd to stop cattle grazing, it was recommended to give children powdered milk and to stop consuming fruits and vegetables and using rain water. They also published in newspapers radiation readings and were even cleaning streets with water. But before 1st May celebrations it all ended and people were encouraged to take part in it. But no matter what actions were taken, the radiation over Poland was low and completely safe to people as average radiation dose received by Poles was 0.3 mSv over year after Chernobyl (normal yearly background dose is 4 mSv).
The cliff-hanger on this episode is one of the very best in all of television.
Regarding the dog part, keep in mind that in the 80s and in the USSR, pet culture was not something fully adopted. For them they were animals, not family members.
i think pets were also allowed to roam neighbourhoods - if they weren't home while they people were being evacuated, they couldn't take them
General Vladimir Pikalov, the one that went in on the truck with the dosimeter rather than sending one of his soldiers, was one of the great heroes of Chernobyl (as well as Stalingrad many years before). As a military chemical engineer by training, he actually knew the risks (unlike many of the people there). To borrow an expression, he definitely clanged when he walked.
All of the three workers who went into the reactor basement survived (but then survival in the context of deterministic radiation exposure is generally living for five years after the incident).
Fortunately, for them survival was considerably longer than five years.
"all three survived the mission, and in 2018 were awarded the Order For Courage ... Ananenko and Bespalov received their awards in person, while Baranov, who died in 2005 of a heart attack, was awarded his posthumously.[29]". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_involvement_in_the_Chernobyl_disaster#Engineers_who_drained_the_steam_suppression_pool_on_28_April
Worried about a dog, oh episode 4 is going to be a blast for her.
Yeah, was thinking the same thing.
Deadass lmao
No spoilers for her mate. Her shock and surprise of all that would be so satisfying.
Delete this
You are the problem for reactors.
11:00 he rammed into the gate in reverse so as to not damage the high-range dosimeter on the front (which I understand was the only one they had on site at the time)...
One of the series' endless supply of "show don't tell" moments.
One of my favourite series of all time. Brilliantly acted and written. Locations used really added to the overall authentic feel to it.
My favourite role of Stellan Skarsgard and equal favourite role(along with The Expanse) of Jared Harris.
Vee, keep in mind that nothing like this had EVER happened before in the history of the world. A nuclear incident like this was unprecedented, and very, VERY few people knew how to properly address the situation. It wasn't until they SAW the consequences of this disaster that they realized that politics as usual wasn't going to cover this up, and yet they still tried to, even though they did eventually put all effort into stemming the flood of radiation and containing the area.
Now, we know that when it comes to nuclear reactors, you do NOT cut corners during construction or blow off safety regulations. Nuclear energy is the safest it has ever been, but Chernobyl has forever tainted not just the planet, but the public's view of nuclear power :/
General Vladimir Pikalov is the kind of man they needed more of: willing to listen, to assess the situation and gather info, and also a general who would not ask one of his men to do something that he himself would not. He was awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union medal for his actions at Chernobyl.
That general was a hero
why do people feel the need to education people on something they seem to already know? she seems well versed in the chernobyl incident
@@mitchhamilton64 Why do you make it sound like the comment somehow was insulting to her? It's just general info, if she gets more out of it, then good. If not, then someone else surely will which is also really good. How does more information hurt? Especially information this well put, it's not just repetetive obvious information.
Well if we are comparing this to Three Mile Island, Chernoybl shows you what happens when that human error (Constant human error) doesn't have design features to help prevent it. Look up Three Mile Island and the mistakes after mistakes and it gets terrifying how without that there would have been a Chernobyl like event.
And if we go further back in time to 1957, we see how important one man's refusal to not cut corners saved Windscale Nuclear Plant in the UK from going full Chernobyl. As it was much MUCH closer than Three Mile Island to a Chernobyl event. At least Windscale had the excuse that it was pioneer in nuclear power technology. They were flying by the seat of their pants then. By the 1980's there was no real excuse for this kind of lack of tech.
Windscale doesn't get the historical respect that it should.
Yeah they did a lot of corner cutting to saving money. No containment structure at all. The RBMK design itself being able to use lower enriched Uranium. That was just compounded by them openly lying about the RBMK to everyone. That is why you kept on hearing them say the reactor couldn't have exploded over and over again. They had it pounded in their heads that it was literally impossible to blow up a RBMK and that it was a perfect design. That just segues perfectly into the cherry on top of this shit cake of of the communist system inevitably leading to that day. Thanks to all of the factors at play the incident was inevitable. It wasn't inevitable that it happened that day at Chernobyl but it was inevitable that it would happen in the USSR with a RBMK reactor.
"That dog was just a friend dog... A military dog... Yeah, they're taking care of him."
That dog is 100% going to be taken care of.
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To say: "I don´t know" shows, at least for me, the wisdom to ones one boundarys of expertise.
fun fact: those clothes are still there in the basement, still as lethal.
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I lived through Chernobyl when i was 11 years old. I remember when the sirens went off in the netherlands, we had to stay inside for weeks ( 3 boys wanting to play )
we could not eat any ground based vegetables for a year and a half.
Chernobyl was and is one of my favorite stories and i actually DID get to see it from afar when i was in Kharkov years and years ago
"Fun" fact? 😬
CZcams's "Veritasium" (Derek Muller) took video in the hospital basement in 2014, with his radiation detector going nuts next to the firemen's clothes. See his CZcams video, "The Most Radioactive Places on Earth".
We must be the same age then. I remember it too in England and crapping myself when I saw the fallout cloud moving south from Sweden into the rest of Europe, clipping the edge of the UK. But Holland was much closer of course
@@derrickowen8162 Yes, it is a fun fact.
"A fun fact is a tidbit of interesting or entertaining trivia"
That tidbit is interesting, therefor, fun fact.
Love that you're doing this one Vicky. In six episodes it quickly became one of my favorite short series of all time.
I think it was this episode where I realized the show wasn't a drama but a horror. The radiation was the ultimate evil. And probably still is.
"What if they use a pipe? a big pipe" that made me laugh so hard
"That dog was just a freind dog, right?"
*Me, still drinking to forget "For the good of all mankind." years on:* "Yeah, sure."
Sorry. I can't stand when people mourning for animals and not for men....it's sick
@@LoZenith75 Depends on the man, there are many that don't deserve consideration. Animals are innocent :P
@@LoZenith75 sympathy for the human victims is a given.
@@LoZenith75 Because the animals just get left behind, alone, not knowing what's going on and are going to die? They are 100% innocent and not even understanding of the situation.
And she has mourned for people in the show, what are you on about...?
It's just that pet-owners get really choked up because they imagine it being their pet, I know the feeling, it sucks...
The fact that you have 0 perspective is more sick imo.
18:15 You'll be very happy to know that all three of them survived the experience. One of them died of coronary issues in the mid-2000's, and the other two are still with us.
I saw the end credit come up and I recall saying "you gotta be kidding me!"
A true horror story. Great mini series. Oh and episode 4... oh boy. I couldn't watch it without some hand blocking screen kinda moments.
The three workers that went in at 18:21 all survived, 1 of them died of a heart attack and the other two are still alive to this day :)
I highly recommend the podcast that was released with this show. Every week the writer did an episode explaining certain things, and discussed things they left out/changed. It is REALLY good.
1. People living Prypyat were told that they are being moved out of the city just to be sure there is no danger (there obviously was) and that they'll be back in three days. Governement lied to them basically
2. No pets were allowed because of their fur which was radioactive already
3. Of the three guys that went to operate the valve one died in 2015ish. Other two are still alive 😁
The helicopter that crashed flew too close to the crane. It's rotors hit the cable and sheared off. You can still watch the original video of the helicopter crashing. It's mirrored in the show damn near perfectly. Everyone on board died from the impact.
The divers all survived and two are still alive today. You are correct that the one who passed died of old age.
2:30 It wouldn't have mattered what the medical staff had on, there is nothing that they had that would've prevented them from getting those radiation burns. There was no such equipment there at the hospital, or maybe even in Russia that would've protected them.
This series is very heavy. But that is what I love about it, it doesn't hold back anything.
It does hold back a lot, the reality was far worse
14:25 It's even worse than that. They were told it was temporary and that they'd be allowed to return home. They didn't pack as if they were leaving everything forever, they only packed as if they'd be gone for a few days.
Exactly. There is such a horrible layer of tragedy underneath this whole mess in of itself.
Pretty sure most figured out they weren't coming back because the damn military was there.
oh hon i dont think youre ready for this series especially concerning the pets that were left behind. this series was so good
The thing thats scary for me is... I was a young kid (7 years old) when this happened on the far side of the globe, while most of it was going on the majority of us alive at the time had no clue it was happening (no internet, and news was slow, and the iron curtain was an impenetrable shell of secrets). While i was playing in the school playground every day, on the other side of the world things where happening that if it had gone differently, could have wiped out swaths of Europe and turned large parts of the northern hemisphere uninhabitable.
Then we did find out about it, and shit got scary (even as a kid I knew what it meant)... the one good thing about Chernobyl though, was it was the final nail in the USSR's coffin, from there the USSR as a thing was marching quickly to its end. So something good came out of disaster.
"drink that gross uranium water" That's... That's not water
The three men all survived. One died of a heart attack in 2005, the other two were still alive as of 2015. Don't know if they still do today though.
Te best way to understand Boris is that he might be ignorant on nuclear science but hes a very experienced man in the oil and mining industry, hes been in charge of large engineering projects and he's used to very alpha personalities trying to run him down or absolute poitical weasels whowill lie about anything to save themselves or get a promotion.
He's used to bullying people to test them and put them in their place and blue collar oil workers and miners who dont give a damn.
The guy is tough, very smart and very organised he's just got caught up inhigh level politics, he needed a bit of time to reset from what he thought was a trivial waste of time into disaster management mode.
They were not allowed to take belongings or pets. There is no way to decontaminate animals effectively so bringing them with you would only increase exposure to the radiological contamination on them. Belongings were also contaminated so bringing them with would only extend the contamination farther. If this would happen now you would be scrubbed and lose all your clothing, jewelry etc before boarding the bus to limit spread (watch the movie "Dirty War" for an interesting take on this after a radiological dispersal device explosion)
you need to tie this series up sooner than later. it's too good to just sit on for an extra week or so honestly
I think you'll be shocked by the next episode, disgusted by the fourth episode, and love the last episode. After watching the whole series, I recommend to watch "Chernobyl Show vs Reality - Footage Comparison" to realize how well the whole series was filmed.
how badly out touch with reality the officials are is accurate because in the soviet union the only thing that matters is the life of the state. They were mad when another country detected the radiation and told people to stay inside, which led the US to orbit a satellite to take pictures giving undeniable proof of the accident because it showed that marvel of the workers paradise had failed. The image of the ussr is much more important than any number of russian lives.
Moscow hospital number 6 was a dedicated facility to treat radiation injuries and sickness. To this day, much of the medical research in this area comes from them. The fact that this hospital existed should tell you how crazy the Soviet nuclear industry was.
Again. Your neighborhood Nuclear Engineering here (or I was one once). They DID do a good job of covering the enormity of the disaster they found themselves in the middle of. Nice review
Stellan Skarsgård is just absolutely amazing in this entire series, and Jared Harris is the perfect foil for him.
This is one of the greatest series I've ever watched. Not only does it show the relatively accurate events of the disaster, but also humanizes the people who had to do what needed to be done (even though they were under an oppressive communist regime).
I enjoyed it too. Like Star Wars or other good science-fantasy/science-horror storys;)
As for realism, there is not much to be found here unfortunatly, only "green propaganda", probably fincanced by the fossile fuel industrie to scare people away from the in comparison clean nuclear energy ;D
@@hernerweisenberg7052 it's called the Petro dollar for a good reason!
VK, a sandblaster or modified cement delivery system could get that amount of sand to the burning nuclear material. However, the main problem with getting out of the fire is the delivery system. The distance between the hose or trough you are proposing and the machine holding or controlling the delivery system. It would have to be 300-400 ft away even more. Since the radiation will destroy any machines that are close, kill anyone that is close, and destroy the hose itself. Plus they don't have time to build this specialized equipment. So the helicopter drops were the fastest way to get the sand and boron delivered to the heart of the burning nuclear material.
90-120 meters away, for people outside USA
I really enjoyed this. I especially loved the helicopter trip, your enthusiasm for the science of Chernobyl made rewatching this amazing series that much better. I also loved your line "I don't like NERDS" and the funny visual of Legasov unceremoniously flying out of the helicopter after the scene. And, even more, as an animal lover I totally appreciate and empathize with how much worry and affection you show for our furry friends.
The one thing I was disappointed with was that you didn't include the scene of Boris learning that he's facing only a handful of years to live. The sheer gravity of that revelation causes him to sit down, shellshocked, and completely changes his demeanor from this point forward through the rest of the series. It's such an important moment because it also marks a major turning point in his friendship with Legasov, as he now understands that Legasov, like himself, has also been sentenced to death and is facing it with stoic responsibility. I understand that you can't include every scene but that one's a particular favorite.
Every single time i go through this show i break down in tears though. It's amazing...
This aired on satellite tv (SKY) in the UK, so I didn't see it until well after it was first broadcast.
They repeated it after I got Sky, one episode a day.
As this is a documentary but dramatised, it's got a very real feel to it. There is an episode that I was in tears over.
I think everyone who's seen this show knows which one I mean. It's nasty.
I believe the term is 'historical drama.'
18:03 - all three of them survived.
When the evacuation happened people were told that it was temporary, only for a few days, that's why they were only allowed limited baggage and pets were left behind. And why so many personal items like pictures were left in homes to decay.
Real sad but it's likely all or most of the military police in charge of actually going door to door to get people to leave were also told that.
14:25 To make it slightly less dramatic - in USSR every building was a property of state, so the people were just tenants with symbolic payments. However when USSR collapsed the people got ownership of the property that they build and/or lived in.
The animals had to be left behind so they wouldn't spread any additional radiation beyond what the people would already bring. My husband walked during the s ene when the Gheiger counter was going out of control and they were going through the tunnels and he said, "Oh, THAT'S a non threatening sound!"
Two of the three plant workers who opened the gates are still alive today. One of them died of a heart attack in 2005.
Wanted to say it too but first checked if anybody did. I know that Ananenko lived near Kiev, but have no idea how they're doing in this difficult times.
"People are so stubborn and don't want to listen." Unfortunately it happens even today, people in charge still kill their messengers.
(18:07) all three men survived and two are still alive to this day as of (2019) which is when this show was released lol but of course "your pretty sure" of what you think you said it right
I think in the last episode you mentioned that there was a number of inaccuracies. It's targeted to a general audience (like me), so some of it had to be simplified, but the show is actually very faithful to what actually happened from a technical perspective. Episode 5 does the best job of explaining a complicated technical subject and simplifying it for a TV audience that I've ever seen. Truly the best series I've seen in years.
The Firefighters clothing are still in the abandoned Hospital in Pripyat. And they are still *very* radioactive.
The Soviet Union had no concern for their citizens at the time of this event. Their main concern was to make sure foreign countries, particularly the United States, did not know the extent of how badly they fucked up. The Soviet Union tried everything in their power to hide and distort the truth. Also, there were only very few people who knew an RBMK reactor could explode because the information was all kept from them. The series explains it very well in the later episodes.
The helicopter crash did happen, but not the day after the incident. It was a fair time later.
It's not *really* code. It's just obliquely referring to elements in the Periodic Table, as you noted
"Simka, who's 14" -- Si, the symbol for Silicon, atomic number 14, is the principal constituent of sand. For smothering the fire.
"Little Boris, who's 5" -- B for Boron, atomic number 5, is a strong neutron absorber.
That is code however. A message with a hidden meaning/agenda is code.
@@Dead25m That seems a fairly broad definition to me, but it doesn't really matter I guess.
The scene with the nurses removing the victims' clothes and realizing they are getting affected as well...then continuing to do their job. Nurses are the unsung heroes of the modern world.
Apparently that pile of firefighter gear is still in the basement of that hospital, and remains severely radioactive to this day.
The Legasov/Shcherbina animosity was completely invented, but it made for a great character arc.
15:00 "they took the animals, right?" ......omg, episode 4, I'm pre hugging you, you'll need it
9:53 Fomin (The guy on the right) is played by Adrian Rawlins, same actor that played Harry Potter's dad
I was 16 when this all went down. It was scary then and it's still heartbreaking to this day.
I'm a big lover of horror movies/series.
I've seen all kinds, but nothing have sent more chills down my spine, than this series have...
So, I live around 1500 km southwest from Chernobyl and my folks werent allowed to leave their homes for a while after the accident. Also, all the crops had to be destroyed, because it was impossible to know if they were contaminated by radiation.
Having been to Chernobyl, the rising uptick of the radiation meter was unnerving 😬
As we got closer to the area, the device would make more and more noise.
It’s something you cannot see or taste but you know it’s there.
The geiger counter is closest sound to actual death creeping around you.
I don't know how they managed to make me so goddamn nervous about an event I already know through and through but they did it
7:41 Actually Scerbina was one the most competent person here. He significantly helped to organize all works after the accident.
They left the animals because they're radioactive. It was also ordered of them
15:21 from what I understand they didn't even tell people that they were leaving permanently. They told them they'd be right back.
Fun fact. If you look at actual footage of the disaster, often people say the footage looks bad. Well that's because it is more or less. All those spots of black you see in the footage are those "bullets" going through the air disrupting what they are recording.
"They took the animals with them, right?" Oh dear...
Vladimir Pikalov, the general who volunteers to suit up to measure the radioactivity with the truck, was wounded several times during World War 2. He served in the battles of Moscow, Stalingrad, and Kursk. Until he was relieved, he commanded all of the Soviet military efforts at containment. He died in 2003. One of the reasons he did what he did, was because he knew it was dangerous. He was older, and didn't want younger men going to do something like that, in his place.
A pipe with sand and boron being pumped through it will fail very quickly due the abrasive nature of the materials. The pressure needed would over a thousand psi. This increases the abrasion of the pipe.
Praise Johan Renck, Hildur Gudnadottir, Craig Mazin and Jakob Ihre for their work on this. The combination of all their respective talents has created a magnificent atmosphere of dread, horror and sadness that only escalates with each episode! Buckle up, Vicky!
when the pilots were going in over the core to dump they would recite the alphabet out loud over the closed channel so the other pilots would hear them. Once they couldn't take the radiation they would stop. The next pilot would remember what letter they got too so he would know how long he had before he couldn't control the helicopter. They all knew it was more dangerous then they were being told and that they would likely die.
I can't remember the man's name, but the guy that did the first filming around the plant went up in a helicopter and they flew over the core, that's how they got the video of the "eye". He died a short time later from radiation exposure along with his aid
The helicopter that crashes, there's a video on CZcams by Bionerd, they go into the sarcophagus and actually see the rotor from the helicopter in the debris pile
My family in Australia fostered a young teenage girl from Belarus for four weeks in 1991 who had been orphaned in the aftermath of the Chernobyl eplosion. I was too young to understand any of it but I do remember her crying alot, we did our best to show her love and took her everywhere on fun outings. we never heard from her again after she was sent back home but i always wonder where she wound up and if she is OK.
To lightly cheer you up. Two of those surname are quite funny. Baranow is Ram (as sheep male) and in Slavic language "baran" is synonim for "fool". Bezpałow is "Club-less", when "pała" is also element of man anatomy.
But, while having funny names, they were heroes.
Hello there. You popped up on my feed a few days ago. I love movie reactions. I do not make many comments on CZcams however, I thought I should tell you I really enjoy your videos. You always seem so genuine and sweet. Great work. Keep doing what your doing.
Aw thank you so much❤️ That means a lot :)
Jared Harris is so good. Season 1 of The Terror is another great mini/limited series to check out with him.
That pile of clothes at the hospital is still there. No one bothered to get rid of it. I think it’s still radioactive