electrical engineer here, this gives me a whole new level of respect my mechanical engineering colleagues, the level of genius in this thing is amazing.
Thanks for such lengthy detailed explanations. Awesome to watch and absorb the detailed. My mind was so hungry for this as a child many decades ago. GS-X has some weird complexity of design in my opinion. When you said sweep motor turns only one direction, I wondered how the sweep lift control reverses. But at 7:50 you pointed out that the bidirectional table motor lifts the sweep up.
We switched to AMF pins in the early '80's as they lasted longer and scored higher. I managed to save one New Brunswick and one new AMF pin and still have them. Classic!
I've been working on gs98 it's going to be my 15 years working with this machines I love it most were self taught & just really think how much you know more then the manual book you will have to just observe how parts of the machines operation
@@arcadetechnician6697. That’s because Brunswick only had the Reset Button on front which could only cycle to the next ball, some centers even modified their 2000 or Frameworx Ball Returns by drilling holes to put a Set Button on there and few centers like my past local center with these rare Players Control Unit on their Ball Returns (the ones that had the Pin indication buttons, Set Button & Cancel Button).
Hello! I recently wanted a pin holder GSX to play with, to set some pins manually, do you know if the holder flaps open freely when not connected to power?
On sync you can do games like horse and my shot on gsx setters!! Question for the game Horse how does it pick specific pins? Is there a sensor in it? That tells it to set up specific pins for that game? Also there's a game called my shot where you can set any pin you want for gsx setters on sync scoring!!! If I did a 7-10 on my shot it tells the setter to set those 2 pins. How does it know how to do that? All from the sync tablet
A very detailed and thorough explanation of how the GSX works. I understand that it is supposed to be more reliable than the older A2 pinsetters, but I wonder if it is, given the amount of solenoids and switches that it has. Seems like the A2 is more mechanical, and just like the older AMF pinspotters, the GSX appears to be more electrical in nature. I also watched this video: czcams.com/video/Iod6uwUGM2E/video.html , which is a CGI rendition of the workings of a GSX. Both videos were very enlightening. Thanks for a great video!
Very cool machine! How’s the reliability of the Brunswick GS-X platform? I know there’s periodic maintenance that has to be done, but outside of that, do these machines fail a lot? Also, was there ever a time the mechanism was misaligned where the pin setter destroyed itself? Also, I’ve heard the GS-X units retailed new for $16,000 ish USD. Does that cost just the hardware/controller itself, or does that include installation? How much does it cost for the Installation of an entire lane? I have so many questions because I always have an appreciation for machinery like this that works hard behind the scenes. Stuff that normal players don’t really care about lol
As someone who works in a bowling alley the GS Line of pinsetters are very reliable and never have any scoring issues either because of the paddles and no cameras. the only "fail" you get occasionally are machine timeouts where pins dont load fast enough but all you have to do is go back and turn it off then back on again. with all the switches on these machines if something dosent immediately line up, its shuts off to prevent the machine from destroying itself as well.
As a Filipino Youth Bowler myself for 10 Years, I bowled at my local shopping mall bowling center with 24 refurbished Brunswick GS-92’s from 2004 and they were decent despite GS blackouts here and their for about 10% at a time (not annoying), I hate they have Brunswick AS Scorings with their crappy CRT monitors and glitchy graphics and I also hate Wood Lanes that hooks more than Synthetics but overall my local center is great until sadly it burned down few days before Christmas 2017. I always prefer GS because it has a Set Button that recovers 2nd Ball Pin Combinations during a Game and automatic pin selecting. Plus I have another shopping mall Bowling center that have 16 refurbished AMF 82-90 XL’s, I bowled on them and they were junk nowadays unlike back then when it was opened in May 10, 2013 when it was running great. I was so mad about these AMF machines cause I looked back on those Brunswick GS-92’s cause they were poor maintained as well except the Hardware is resistant to all the dust and dirt on it and the mechanics that worked on them are always finding ways (after their very first mechanics from 2004 until around 2010 are very lazy to maintain) cause their center is a Casual but it’s mainly a Tournament Bowling Center for the Competitive Sport of Bowling unlike AMF’s they aren’t resistant at all, the mechanics that worked on them are extremely lazy and their center are made for Casuals. Not to mention that AMF’s Pin Jams, Table Jams, Interlocks, Double shuttled pins, pins fell on 2nd Ball before a Ball was thrown which does that a lot more than the GS-92’s, etc., they’re SO ANNOYING and all those several AMF problems compare to just a few problems on GS made a huge difference to my personal experience as a Bowler. The only worth about that AMF Center is they have Synthetic Lanes, AMF Sweeps dropping very late which is interesting and better scorings (AMF Accuscore XL) except the beeping sound and inaccurate scoring. Also both centers have great friendly staff but the customer service for Bowling was sort of lack in that AMF center.
I was a GS-10 mechanic in the late 80s and I am curious about second ball scoring. If the pin holders only have one switch and the pin in the holder closes the switch, how does the machine determine if the paddle is detecting a standing pin? The GS-10s only loaded the table "After" it detected the second ball standing pins for scoring.
@@bryanbrenner4357 There are long gears that go along the table that connect all the spotting tongs together, the 3 pin and 10 pin tong gears connect the long gears to the main gear rod that connects to the big gear that starts the power. Along the two long gears that connect all the tongs together, there are metal plates that stick up to hold the gear in place, and you can use those tabs to align the tongs. Our center uses the second valley on the gears aligned in the center of those tabs to be the full open spotting tong position, and we use a white out marker to make a visual representation of that alignment. I'm sure there are other ways to do it though
Not much. It’s depends on how they treated, most of the blackout I suspected is from poor maintenance on the switch cluster or on the electronic boxes.
There are ball doors on one side of the transport band (left machine has the door on the right and left machine has the door on the left), and under the transport band there are wooden boards, the board furthest to the back has a ramp that goes towards the ball doors, and once the ball hits the door it opens and allows the ball to go through, once through it hits the ball accelerator which is a motor with a wheel that spins with a belt, and when the belt hits the ball it shoots it through the gutters in the middle of the two lanes and up to the power lift where the bowlers are standing. This video shows it pretty well - czcams.com/video/Iod6uwUGM2E/video.html&ab_channel=JaredOwen
why are the 7 and 10 pins pre-set after a fresh table of 10 is placed as opposed to filling the pin holders all at once after all the pins are distributed?
GSX pinsetters are a stupid AMF ripoff! There's way too much plastic, way too many motors and the computer chips when they go bad will have the machine baking cake instead of setting pins. There was more steel in an old A2 Brunswick than any 5 new GSX machines. The metal is thin, there are too many parts and those that are watching closely now realize that these "new" machines will be lucky to last ten years! The original A2's are still running like new and are nearing 60 years old now! With proper maintenance those original machines would last forever! But why not new machines? Lanes are not wood anymore and pure plastic pins are coming in. It's all phony now. What a shame for bowling purists!
I’ve Bowling for 10 Years (since 2011) and I bowled on GS-92’s and they were not bad in my experience although the lanes I bowled on were Wood which I’m not a big fan cause my ball won’t hold unlike the Synthetics in another center which I prefer along with AMF’s that in my experience with those machines, they’re such a clunky piece of crap that doesn’t handle poor maintenance unlike Brunswick GS would. Plastic Parts could be resistant unlike Metal or Steel would corrode easily. I also get sick and tired with missing pins on 2nd Ball that on GS isn’t a problem cause I can just push the Set Button on the Ball Return to recover the pin set up unlike AMF is a pain in the ass that you need a mechanic to do it manually. Sure I get that it’s poor maintenance but here’s the thing buddy that I live in Davao City, Philippines, a place where Bowling is on the verge of a collapse because that GS-92 Center my league bowled at before was in a mall and the mall burned down (won’t open again until 2024), a small clubhouse bowling center was abandoned and never recovered and last is this AMF center I mentioned which was in a mall as well with the 16 synthetic lanes is the last one and despite the lanes were in great condition unfortunately the 3 Lane Men were all over the place unlike the GS-92 center had 6 Lane Men for 24 Lanes, half in the front and half in the back. My Bowling League is currently stuck with this crap with barely functional AMF’s, no more Centers left but this one. Especially nearly 2 years that they haven’t reopen the lanes during Pandemic, their clunky AMF machines are gonna die. I would rather take a vacation going to Cebu and bowled at another mall bowling center with 36 Synthetic Lanes and GS-96 Pinsetters, gladly they have a Set Button. Let’s be real that GSX is still Free Fall Pinsetter unlike Garbage String pinsetters. I don’t care with maintenance costs purpose on Strings cause if you hire people to set pins by hand, it’s just the same thing as Strings, the only difference the pins are free fall. In the Mini Bowling community here on CZcams, the GSX and A2 were the best pinsetters to recreate into a Mini form. AMF wasn’t gonna take the win at all cause they’re too complex to recreate. As for Strings, well there are a few but in my Mini Bowling Group that we totally banned String Pinsetters from showing up or play, we’re a bunch of youngster bowlers loving pinsetters as we bowled on them. PS: I don’t care if you’re a Bowling Purist. Why not just move on, today is 2022, it’s not 1950’s anymore. Live with of what’s best for current Youth Bowlers and current PBA Pros of today. I’m definitely not supporting any old crappy bowlers that complains a lot, I’m more on the Youth side.
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 Old Crappy Bowler? Try learning a bit of respect, at my age I have paid my dues and have more than earned it! But I do like how you said you dislike "real wood" lanes. Sure, that's how it is now--I understand! Bowl on plastic plywood, hit plastic pins and have reactive core balls that allow a shot that's three feet wide so you "can't" miss. Let me explain. That isn't bowling ,it's target practice-exercise. I remember the day when I saw my first 300. My dad who managed a classic 16 lane A2 house said you will be lucky to see one 300 game every 5 years. Now at the local house somebody shoots one every month! Try shooting on straight lane conditions when the oil naturally moves during the night, especially on the late shift. You deal with real wood and real wood pins and although I used the state of the art ball the AMF "Angle" at the time I would say you had to be the best around to handle that ball and be able to throw it to it's potential. I've had (6) 300 games! Nothing in today's world really but back in the day hardly anyone had shot one. The lanes were tight so you'd better be able to hold a tight shot and control the ball by only hitting a two-board line and be able to hold it all night long! I've watched how the "kids" nowadays sometimes bowl the plastic ball series. The averages quickly go back to the 150's like they should have been all along--because the kids today can't really bowl. I finished my 1979 season a "duck shooter." In other words I was a 200 ave bowler. No mean feat in those days let me tell you. Bowling is nothing now because it's too easy and there's no class anymore and it's not just me who says that. Just the kiddies that started in the 80's or later that whine and cry because they have to be able to ave 220 without any practice or they will quit bowling. Whiners and babies. It's a joke!
@@scottrichardson6226 Bowling become way too easy because people learned quickly. My Filipino Bowling League even barely shot 200 because many Bowlers in my League bowled Deadly Straight, including myself even if I’m trying to hook my Brunswick Twist and also many of us aren’t always consistent on how we play. They don’t care if you’re good or not, they just wanna have fun. They don’t even care about modern balls or wood/synthetic lanes, no. Bowling must be treated fun, not some kind of political complain crap or rocket science, you guys gotta learn how to have fun like us Filipinos do and even Japan that had Elite Bowlers don’t even point a single finger, not even their old school bowlers. There are zero 300’s in my League too on both wood and synthetic. I have to mentioned that my League mate says to me the Youths average they get from Wood Lanes was really low like below than 150 and that stinks. As for Wood pins I have no problem with that until when they break easily and be inconsistent unlike Twisters. In my opinion that it’s unnecessary to make Tenpin Bowling harder. Duckpins, Candlepins, 5 Pin and especially both American 9 Pin and German 9 Pin were already so hard enough and I bowled Duckpins and I average like below 100 unlike my 150-180 average on Tenpins, some Duckpin Bowlers say that an average of 130 plus on Duckpins = 200 plus average on Tenpins. Also for the Youths that I’m talking about who were born in the year 2000 and up, just like me I was in 2002.
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 In a house that has great equipment and nice pins that are clean we only used to lose one to three pins a year due to breakage. Otherwise they worked fine. The best pins were a year old, seasoned in. New pins are harder to strike on. And in the day we only used Brunswick red crown or AMF two circle pins. The real pins.
@@scottrichardson6226 Not sure you wanna try this but I know it’s kinda expensive but that GS-92 Center with Wood Lanes I bowled had a neat trick to save wood pins without buying new ones. What they did is they had 2 Different types of pins (Terco & MBW) and they swap them every after 2 years back and forth without spending a single Filipino peso.
electrical engineer here, this gives me a whole new level of respect my mechanical engineering colleagues, the level of genius in this thing is amazing.
In my opinion the A seriees is even more genious
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Something about pinsetters that are just fascinating. Thanks for the video
Very good video! Detailed and with very good lighting! :)
That you so much for that
These machines are pretty amazing. I used to work on A2 pinsetters. These are a LOT different but very cool at the same time. Great video!
Thanks for such lengthy detailed explanations. Awesome to watch and absorb the detailed. My mind was so hungry for this as a child many decades ago. GS-X has some weird complexity of design in my opinion. When you said sweep motor turns only one direction, I wondered how the sweep lift control reverses. But at 7:50 you pointed out that the bidirectional table motor lifts the sweep up.
Always amazed at how many Brunswick centers use AMF pins! ( They are superior!)
In fact the National Bowling Stadium had GSX Pinsetters with AMF Pins in them
We switched to AMF pins in the early '80's as they lasted longer and scored higher. I managed to save one New Brunswick and one new AMF pin and still have them. Classic!
I work at a bowling alley now, this video is a god send. thank you so much
I've been working on gs98 it's going to be my 15 years working with this machines I love it most were self taught & just really think how much you know more then the manual book you will have to just observe how parts of the machines operation
Awesome video, great info and great that your GSX is maintained, I’ve bowled on poor maintained GS-92’s but the Set Button is my lifesaver lol.
Thank you. It's funny, of all the times I've been bowling I never knew that button existed until I started working on the machines
@@arcadetechnician6697. That’s because Brunswick only had the Reset Button on front which could only cycle to the next ball, some centers even modified their 2000 or Frameworx Ball Returns by drilling holes to put a Set Button on there and few centers like my past local center with these rare Players Control Unit on their Ball Returns (the ones that had the Pin indication buttons, Set Button & Cancel Button).
Lots of moving parts! Great job!
Very helpful I am GS 96 GS 98 bowling machanic and nowadays I am free
How well will the GSX hold up compared to older models?
Hello! I recently wanted a pin holder GSX to play with, to set some pins manually, do you know if the holder flaps open freely when not connected to power?
i didn't understand how this works until i watched it 5 times
On sync you can do games like horse and my shot on gsx setters!! Question for the game Horse how does it pick specific pins? Is there a sensor in it? That tells it to set up specific pins for that game? Also there's a game called my shot where you can set any pin you want for gsx setters on sync scoring!!! If I did a 7-10 on my shot it tells the setter to set those 2 pins. How does it know how to do that? All from the sync tablet
How does it deal with pins moved from their standing position?
A very detailed and thorough explanation of how the GSX works. I understand that it is supposed to be more reliable than the older A2 pinsetters, but I wonder if it is, given the amount of solenoids and switches that it has. Seems like the A2 is more mechanical, and just like the older AMF pinspotters, the GSX appears to be more electrical in nature.
I also watched this video: czcams.com/video/Iod6uwUGM2E/video.html , which is a CGI rendition of the workings of a GSX. Both videos were very enlightening. Thanks for a great video!
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Very cool machine! How’s the reliability of the Brunswick GS-X platform? I know there’s periodic maintenance that has to be done, but outside of that, do these machines fail a lot? Also, was there ever a time the mechanism was misaligned where the pin setter destroyed itself? Also, I’ve heard the GS-X units retailed new for $16,000 ish USD. Does that cost just the hardware/controller itself, or does that include installation? How much does it cost for the Installation of an entire lane? I have so many questions because I always have an appreciation for machinery like this that works hard behind the scenes. Stuff that normal players don’t really care about lol
As someone who works in a bowling alley the GS Line of pinsetters are very reliable and never have any scoring issues either because of the paddles and no cameras. the only "fail" you get occasionally are machine timeouts where pins dont load fast enough but all you have to do is go back and turn it off then back on again. with all the switches on these machines if something dosent immediately line up, its shuts off to prevent the machine from destroying itself as well.
As a Filipino Youth Bowler myself for 10 Years, I bowled at my local shopping mall bowling center with 24 refurbished Brunswick GS-92’s from 2004 and they were decent despite GS blackouts here and their for about 10% at a time (not annoying), I hate they have Brunswick AS Scorings with their crappy CRT monitors and glitchy graphics and I also hate Wood Lanes that hooks more than Synthetics but overall my local center is great until sadly it burned down few days before Christmas 2017.
I always prefer GS because it has a Set Button that recovers 2nd Ball Pin Combinations during a Game and automatic pin selecting.
Plus I have another shopping mall Bowling center that have 16 refurbished AMF 82-90 XL’s, I bowled on them and they were junk nowadays unlike back then when it was opened in May 10, 2013 when it was running great. I was so mad about these AMF machines cause I looked back on those Brunswick GS-92’s cause they were poor maintained as well except the Hardware is resistant to all the dust and dirt on it and the mechanics that worked on them are always finding ways (after their very first mechanics from 2004 until around 2010 are very lazy to maintain) cause their center is a Casual but it’s mainly a Tournament Bowling Center for the Competitive Sport of Bowling unlike AMF’s they aren’t resistant at all, the mechanics that worked on them are extremely lazy and their center are made for Casuals. Not to mention that AMF’s Pin Jams, Table Jams, Interlocks, Double shuttled pins, pins fell on 2nd Ball before a Ball was thrown which does that a lot more than the GS-92’s, etc., they’re SO ANNOYING and all those several AMF problems compare to just a few problems on GS made a huge difference to my personal experience as a Bowler.
The only worth about that AMF Center is they have Synthetic Lanes, AMF Sweeps dropping very late which is interesting and better scorings (AMF Accuscore XL) except the beeping sound and inaccurate scoring. Also both centers have great friendly staff but the customer service for Bowling was sort of lack in that AMF center.
i have become pinned to watching how pinsetters work
I was a GS-10 mechanic in the late 80s and I am curious about second ball scoring. If the pin holders only have one switch and the pin in the holder closes the switch, how does the machine determine if the paddle is detecting a standing pin? The GS-10s only loaded the table "After" it detected the second ball standing pins for scoring.
When the GS92 upgraded to GS96 they put in a two micro switch daisy chained criscross with different switch fingers, I've upgraded some of my GS 92's
@@JamesCardwell-us5gg - do you have any video of these switches or schematics
Is there an alignment method for the spotting tongs?
Do you mean when installing new ones or building them from scratch?
@@arcadetechnician6697 I mean once installed....regarding the correct pin placement.
@@bryanbrenner4357 There are long gears that go along the table that connect all the spotting tongs together, the 3 pin and 10 pin tong gears connect the long gears to the main gear rod that connects to the big gear that starts the power. Along the two long gears that connect all the tongs together, there are metal plates that stick up to hold the gear in place, and you can use those tabs to align the tongs. Our center uses the second valley on the gears aligned in the center of those tabs to be the full open spotting tong position, and we use a white out marker to make a visual representation of that alignment. I'm sure there are other ways to do it though
How often do they breakdown?
Not much. It’s depends on how they treated, most of the blackout I suspected is from poor maintenance on the switch cluster or on the electronic boxes.
Main event?
How does the ball get returned to the bowlers
There are ball doors on one side of the transport band (left machine has the door on the right and left machine has the door on the left), and under the transport band there are wooden boards, the board furthest to the back has a ramp that goes towards the ball doors, and once the ball hits the door it opens and allows the ball to go through, once through it hits the ball accelerator which is a motor with a wheel that spins with a belt, and when the belt hits the ball it shoots it through the gutters in the middle of the two lanes and up to the power lift where the bowlers are standing. This video shows it pretty well - czcams.com/video/Iod6uwUGM2E/video.html&ab_channel=JaredOwen
Brunswick Bowling Machine Model Gsx Arrow Code 51 How Can I Fix It
An error 51 as in #1 pin not detected in diagnostics?
I m using gsx it us lodging time slow
why are the 7 and 10 pins pre-set after a fresh table of 10 is placed as opposed to filling the pin holders all at once after all the pins are distributed?
Dear Lord. Coming from A's and A2's, these are all plastic.
GSX pinsetters are a stupid AMF ripoff! There's way too much plastic, way too many motors and the computer chips when they go bad will have the machine baking cake instead of setting pins. There was more steel in an old A2 Brunswick than any 5 new GSX machines. The metal is thin, there are too many parts and those that are watching closely now realize that these "new" machines will be lucky to last ten years! The original A2's are still running like new and are nearing 60 years old now! With proper maintenance those original machines would last forever! But why not new machines? Lanes are not wood anymore and pure plastic pins are coming in. It's all phony now. What a shame for bowling purists!
I’ve Bowling for 10 Years (since 2011) and I bowled on GS-92’s and they were not bad in my experience although the lanes I bowled on were Wood which I’m not a big fan cause my ball won’t hold unlike the Synthetics in another center which I prefer along with AMF’s that in my experience with those machines, they’re such a clunky piece of crap that doesn’t handle poor maintenance unlike Brunswick GS would. Plastic Parts could be resistant unlike Metal or Steel would corrode easily. I also get sick and tired with missing pins on 2nd Ball that on GS isn’t a problem cause I can just push the Set Button on the Ball Return to recover the pin set up unlike AMF is a pain in the ass that you need a mechanic to do it manually. Sure I get that it’s poor maintenance but here’s the thing buddy that I live in Davao City, Philippines, a place where Bowling is on the verge of a collapse because that GS-92 Center my league bowled at before was in a mall and the mall burned down (won’t open again until 2024), a small clubhouse bowling center was abandoned and never recovered and last is this AMF center I mentioned which was in a mall as well with the 16 synthetic lanes is the last one and despite the lanes were in great condition unfortunately the 3 Lane Men were all over the place unlike the GS-92 center had 6 Lane Men for 24 Lanes, half in the front and half in the back. My Bowling League is currently stuck with this crap with barely functional AMF’s, no more Centers left but this one. Especially nearly 2 years that they haven’t reopen the lanes during Pandemic, their clunky AMF machines are gonna die. I would rather take a vacation going to Cebu and bowled at another mall bowling center with 36 Synthetic Lanes and GS-96 Pinsetters, gladly they have a Set Button.
Let’s be real that GSX is still Free Fall Pinsetter unlike Garbage String pinsetters. I don’t care with maintenance costs purpose on Strings cause if you hire people to set pins by hand, it’s just the same thing as Strings, the only difference the pins are free fall.
In the Mini Bowling community here on CZcams, the GSX and A2 were the best pinsetters to recreate into a Mini form. AMF wasn’t gonna take the win at all cause they’re too complex to recreate. As for Strings, well there are a few but in my Mini Bowling Group that we totally banned String Pinsetters from showing up or play, we’re a bunch of youngster bowlers loving pinsetters as we bowled on them.
PS: I don’t care if you’re a Bowling Purist. Why not just move on, today is 2022, it’s not 1950’s anymore. Live with of what’s best for current Youth Bowlers and current PBA Pros of today. I’m definitely not supporting any old crappy bowlers that complains a lot, I’m more on the Youth side.
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 Old Crappy Bowler? Try learning a bit of respect, at my age I have paid my dues and have more than earned it! But I do like how you said you dislike "real wood" lanes. Sure, that's how it is now--I understand! Bowl on plastic plywood, hit plastic pins and have reactive core balls that allow a shot that's three feet wide so you "can't" miss.
Let me explain. That isn't bowling ,it's target practice-exercise. I remember the day when I saw my first 300. My dad who managed a classic 16 lane A2 house said you will be lucky to see one 300 game every 5 years. Now at the local house somebody shoots one every month!
Try shooting on straight lane conditions when the oil naturally moves during the night, especially on the late shift. You deal with real wood and real wood pins and although I used the state of the art ball the AMF "Angle" at the time I would say you had to be the best around to handle that ball and be able to throw it to it's potential.
I've had (6) 300 games! Nothing in today's world really but back in the day hardly anyone had shot one. The lanes were tight so you'd better be able to hold a tight shot and control the ball by only hitting a two-board line and be able to hold it all night long!
I've watched how the "kids" nowadays sometimes bowl the plastic ball series. The averages quickly go back to the 150's like they should have been all along--because the kids today can't really bowl.
I finished my 1979 season a "duck shooter." In other words I was a 200 ave bowler. No mean feat in those days let me tell you. Bowling is nothing now because it's too easy and there's no class anymore and it's not just me who says that. Just the kiddies that started in the 80's or later that whine and cry because they have to be able to ave 220 without any practice or they will quit bowling. Whiners and babies. It's a joke!
@@scottrichardson6226 Bowling become way too easy because people learned quickly. My Filipino Bowling League even barely shot 200 because many Bowlers in my League bowled Deadly Straight, including myself even if I’m trying to hook my Brunswick Twist and also many of us aren’t always consistent on how we play. They don’t care if you’re good or not, they just wanna have fun. They don’t even care about modern balls or wood/synthetic lanes, no. Bowling must be treated fun, not some kind of political complain crap or rocket science, you guys gotta learn how to have fun like us Filipinos do and even Japan that had Elite Bowlers don’t even point a single finger, not even their old school bowlers. There are zero 300’s in my League too on both wood and synthetic. I have to mentioned that my League mate says to me the Youths average they get from Wood Lanes was really low like below than 150 and that stinks. As for Wood pins I have no problem with that until when they break easily and be inconsistent unlike Twisters.
In my opinion that it’s unnecessary to make Tenpin Bowling harder. Duckpins, Candlepins, 5 Pin and especially both American 9 Pin and German 9 Pin were already so hard enough and I bowled Duckpins and I average like below 100 unlike my 150-180 average on Tenpins, some Duckpin Bowlers say that an average of 130 plus on Duckpins = 200 plus average on Tenpins. Also for the Youths that I’m talking about who were born in the year 2000 and up, just like me I was in 2002.
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 In a house that has great equipment and nice pins that are clean we only used to lose one to three pins a year due to breakage. Otherwise they worked fine. The best pins were a year old, seasoned in. New pins are harder to strike on. And in the day we only used Brunswick red crown or AMF two circle pins. The real pins.
@@scottrichardson6226 Not sure you wanna try this but I know it’s kinda expensive but that GS-92 Center with Wood Lanes I bowled had a neat trick to save wood pins without buying new ones. What they did is they had 2 Different types of pins (Terco & MBW) and they swap them every after 2 years back and forth without spending a single Filipino peso.