The first game where the celestial sieged the infernal from the low ground was really fun to watch. Really showed the potential for the matchup in the future.
I think a lot of this revolves around how many tools players have to defend worker lines + how beefy structures are. BOB overcharge, static defense, etc means that its hard to find value from runbyes, but we do see top players doing things like kri backstabs, etc. I'm with you though, I'd like to see some tuning to reward multitasking more
from what I looked-up "definition-wise - Deathballing is the practice of grouping most of your military assets into a single blob and using it to handle the majority of your military engagements." From that it seems my style, I've been working for 10 years I just don't have the APM/CPM as I used to, and I have carpal tunnel. Can this game be less strenuous to people with like carpal tunnel? It seems having less than
@@MangaGamified that's one of the great things about rating systems! You can go try hard and play fast, but you'll be matched against people of similar skill after enough ranking games. FG also places a significant focus on campaign, coop, and other alternative modes that won't be quite as "sweaty" as 1v1 competitive Edit: also, generally people in RTS games use the metric of APM, or actions per minute - that is mouse clicks, key presses, etc. Its pretty rare for everyone except for the pros (or like upper 1% of players) to average more than 300 APM on a game of sc2, and a lot of that tends to be meaningless clicks. You'll be fine!
@@BeoMulf Hope so, there's literally one game that's if I dare to say all about deathball(no I'm no pro) but you can still pull apart individual units, sry can't remember the name I just click video after video. But I atleast think it's gameplay was just released this year.
@@MangaGamified battle aces? Zero space? In general lower level players will trend towards more deathball strats as it's easier to control, but 13loodSwords worry is more about the highest level/esports play. It's far more fun to watch a bunch of multitasking than two players building armies until they fight, but that's not the expectation of a gold league player (or the equivalent)
This was the first public look at the Celestials - I have no doubt we'll see some significant tuning between now and Early Access. Technically the animancer has to channel the singularity to get it off and that provides counterplay, but I think the range is perhaps a bit too long and/or cancelling the channel is pretty difficult. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens now that the devs have a month of high level play to balance around
@@H0kie yep! I saw that - seems like things are evolving in real time. I also got permission to go and put out casts that were under NDA until now, so that's exciting
i felt like this is disgusting in a way you can't even have advantage on early, you can't have some cheese against celestials. Either, the only way to win is to build lot of economy to be sure to be able to defend an attack and doesn't let him lead the game to a point he has all the map.
Lol. Their cannon, from what I can tell, says that Infernals and Celestials waged conflict on and around Earth during pre-history, which means all the angelic and demonic iconography we see across different cultures is inspired by these two races. Kind of an "ancient aliens" type vibe more than anything
My question is: Is it worthy to play other races than Celestial in this game? Furthermore, Infernals become 'Sc 2 ' Zergs - unbalanced and useless to play.
The first game where the celestial sieged the infernal from the low ground was really fun to watch. Really showed the potential for the matchup in the future.
Right? It's not totally there yet, but the bones of it being a really cool positional matchup at there. Now we just need T3 units...
It feels like the game revolves heavily around deathballing; I'm hopeful this changes going forward through unit changes / meta changes :/
I think a lot of this revolves around how many tools players have to defend worker lines + how beefy structures are. BOB overcharge, static defense, etc means that its hard to find value from runbyes, but we do see top players doing things like kri backstabs, etc. I'm with you though, I'd like to see some tuning to reward multitasking more
from what I looked-up "definition-wise - Deathballing is the practice of grouping most of your military assets into a single blob and using it to handle the majority of your military engagements."
From that it seems my style, I've been working for 10 years I just don't have the APM/CPM as I used to, and I have carpal tunnel.
Can this game be less strenuous to people with like carpal tunnel? It seems having less than
@@MangaGamified that's one of the great things about rating systems! You can go try hard and play fast, but you'll be matched against people of similar skill after enough ranking games. FG also places a significant focus on campaign, coop, and other alternative modes that won't be quite as "sweaty" as 1v1 competitive
Edit: also, generally people in RTS games use the metric of APM, or actions per minute - that is mouse clicks, key presses, etc. Its pretty rare for everyone except for the pros (or like upper 1% of players) to average more than 300 APM on a game of sc2, and a lot of that tends to be meaningless clicks. You'll be fine!
@@BeoMulf Hope so, there's literally one game that's if I dare to say all about deathball(no I'm no pro) but you can still pull apart individual units, sry can't remember the name I just click video after video.
But I atleast think it's gameplay was just released this year.
@@MangaGamified battle aces? Zero space? In general lower level players will trend towards more deathball strats as it's easier to control, but 13loodSwords worry is more about the highest level/esports play. It's far more fun to watch a bunch of multitasking than two players building armies until they fight, but that's not the expectation of a gold league player (or the equivalent)
The Black Hole Spam is a major issue. It does too much and speed needs to be reduced for the celestials
This was the first public look at the Celestials - I have no doubt we'll see some significant tuning between now and Early Access. Technically the animancer has to channel the singularity to get it off and that provides counterplay, but I think the range is perhaps a bit too long and/or cancelling the channel is pretty difficult. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens now that the devs have a month of high level play to balance around
Did FG confirm if ALL T3 units will be released in early access? I’ve only seen the Graven so far
The guy in chat was writing-apparently no t3 at EA launch
They just posted on discord today that T3 WILL be in the game. At least some of the units
@@H0kie yep! I saw that - seems like things are evolving in real time. I also got permission to go and put out casts that were under NDA until now, so that's exciting
Could the devs of irl nerf Parting so we can see the actual celestial matchups? =p
Every other Bo5 I have access to is VvV almost, because they were only slightly less broken than parting is. Careful what you wish for 😛
i felt like this is disgusting in a way you can't even have advantage on early, you can't have some cheese against celestials. Either, the only way to win is to build lot of economy to be sure to be able to defend an attack and doesn't let him lead the game to a point he has all the map.
probably the title could maybe be perhaps a bit wrong
What's wrong with the title?
@@BeoMulf stormate
@@smnvalex lol that's definitely a typo. Fixed!
How much $ did Frost Giant accept from the evangelical lobby?
Lol. Their cannon, from what I can tell, says that Infernals and Celestials waged conflict on and around Earth during pre-history, which means all the angelic and demonic iconography we see across different cultures is inspired by these two races. Kind of an "ancient aliens" type vibe more than anything
Weavers need to be reworked, the worst unit in the Infernals Arsenal.
I didn't think they're bad - they're very good against beefy units
@@BeoMulf I think they should do less damage and move faster. They feel way to slow to move out with the rest of your army
My question is: Is it worthy to play other races than Celestial in this game? Furthermore, Infernals become 'Sc 2 ' Zergs - unbalanced and useless to play.
Vanguard was the strongest faction of the frigate patch, and I enjoy infernals. Definitely reasons to play all 3 depending on what you like
Unless you're as good as the top players, just pick whatever race you think is fun. Also, SC2 Zerg isn't useless.
it's ugly