I didn't think of yhe Academy as a military school but more as another word for University. At most it would be a merchant marine academy. Their is a deleted scene with Luke's friend, Biggs Darklighter, meeting Luke after Graduating and telling him he and some others were going to jump ship at a certain system and join the rebellion. This was before the jaws came to the farm. Luke tells Biggs something like, "well guess I won't be joining the Imperals."
I always thought it was pretty obvious in AOTC that Dooku was the one who erased Camino from the Jedi archives. He’s a former Jedi who even has a statue of himself in the library.
Yoda says himself in the original trilogy that a small frail body is basically meaningless to someone who is strong in the Force. "Judge me by my size, do you? And well you shouldn't, for the Force is my ally. ... Luminous beings, are we. Not in this crude matter."
He did, but he also knew that joining the Imperial Academy was his only ticket off of Tattooine. He probably thought he could join and then leave once he had footing on another planet.
@@KevyNova Yep, plus in one of the deleted scenes Biggs outright tells Luke that he and a few buddies plan to jump ship and join the rebellion on their next trip. Joining the Imperial Academy is how Biggs got off of Tattooine, too.
Yeah, Luke never wanted to join the empire. He wanted to go to the Imperial Academy to learn to be a pilot and join the Rebellion, just like his best friend Biggs Darklighter.
Sticky situation to be sure. Luke doesn't like the Empire, as I'm sure many didn't in that galaxy, yet since they controlled everything, if you wanted to learn piloting, you had to do it through *their* academy (hence, "Imperial"). And your move to the Rebellion would need to be VERY carefully and sneakily done, as most likely you would be, cough, forcibly "recruited" into the Imperial navy, as a TIE pilot or whatever (reminds me of the attempted forced recruitment of Captain Von Trapp in The Sound of Music, before he and his family escaped). How Biggs jumped over to the Rebellion and managed to keep his life (at least briefly before the Battle of Yavin), I'll never know.
I wouldn't consider myself a Star Wars aficionado, just a casual fan, but even I knew all this. :) One thing I wonder if people have thought about: In the original movie, right before Ben tells Luke that Darth Vader betrayed and murdered his father, Alec Guinness glances down and to one side for a brief moment. This gesture is a microexpression, something that people trained in interrogating people recognize as a sign that the person is lying. But, when that movie was being filmed, there's no way Alec Guinness would have known that. It's unclear why he moved in that way, but it works so very, very well when watching later when we know the character *was* lying.
Fun fact: During production for Empire Strikes Back, to deter leaks from getting out in the script Darth Vader tells Luke; "Obi-Wan killed your father". Funny enough, from Vader's point of view this is also true to call back to Kenobi justifying his lie.
@@MSThalamus-gj9oi Alec Guinness was a master thespian with many years experience. Experienced actors know how to prepare for a role. I think its possible that even though he wasn't wild about doing a sci-fi movie that he felt had limited possibility of success, his professionalism made him prepare for it the same as if he were doing Hamlet. He likely looked at the script and read into it the character's background and motivation. Then he delivered his part by acting it well, perhaps better than GL deserved. I understand and agree with the observation of the microexpressions, but top actors can use them to better act out a movie role.
@@GrinderCB Of course. My point was that at that time, Alec Guinness couldn't have actually *known* (for sure) that Kenobi was lying. He may have surmised that, or maybe he just thought the character would feel uncomfortable talking about it. After all it was his failing that led to the outcome, regardless of whether he was telling the full truth or not. I just meant that the scene reads really, really well in light of the audience knowing now that Kenobi was telling a bold faced lie in that moment.
Had Luke joined the Imperial military, he absolutely would have been picked up by Vader and Palpatine... And who knows what's going to happen from there?
That's a big assumption. There's literally millions of of troops in the Imperial military. Most of them are probably never even on the same planet as Vader or Palpatine. Leia, on the other hand, was a member of the senate, and regularly had direct contact with them, and was never noticed as being Force strong or related to Vader.
@@jayb8934 Luke *Skywalker*, and his innate Force abilities are going to be more noticeable when doing combat training (especially as a *TIE pilot*) than a politician. Not to mention the Empire would absolutely have checks in place to pick up on potential Force Sensitives. All it takes is a report of "hey this farm kid from Tatooine named Skywalker has abnormally good reflexes" to get the ball rolling, and that ball ends with Luke Skywalker standing in the throne room with Darth Vader and Palpatine.
@@TimberWolf99 But honestly, what are the odds that such a report would reach all the way up to Vader or Palpatine? If Luke stayed in the Imperial military as a career and worked his way up the ranks, sure. He'd probably end up a member of Vader's personal squadron pretty quickly. But as someone who likely planned to just graduate and leave or do a minimum tour of service... I think you're underestimating what it likely takes to be noticed by the rulers of a galaxy spanning empire among millions of soldiers. Luke would probably stand out to his direct superiors, but they would still be many, many levels removed from Vader and Palpatine.
@@jayb8934 Training instructor reports on his abilities. Those reports go up the chain to the head of whichever academy he ends up attending. Those reports are likely automatically flagged as being "of interest", which also automatically triggers an investigation - One that would likely start very low-key, with simple observations and monitoring of his training reports to see if there is a consistent pattern. Once there is enough evidence, one of Palpatine's *many* agents is sent to evaluate and possibly run some form of test specifically for Force Sensitivity which gets reported directly to Palpatine himself. Even if he does graduate without getting clocked, he's still got a few years in Imperial service where he absolutely *will* get noticed. And of course, once the name *Skywalker* flashes in front of the eyes of either Vader or Palpatine, that's it. Even if it somehow doesn't happen until after he's served out his minimum contract (assuming the Empire doesn't pull dirty tricks to *keep* people in), he's not evading either of them.
RotJ implies Kenobi had no cause to believe L&L are siblings. ESB implies the meaningful looks between Kenobi and Vader was about Vader discovering his offspring. Original movie prior to all retcon: Kenobi smiles when Vader sees the resemblance between the kid in the cargo bay and the ally he slew so long before. It was setup for sequels about avenging Anakin's murder. (I am a little out on the limb of speculation, here. Check all this with Star Wars scholars who are more venerable than I am and who have good memories.)
In my head canon, I always said that Luke was trying to get into a merchant marine type academy, and not a military one. Even Biggs wasn’t wearing an Imperial uniform in the cut footage. For those unfamiliar with the merchant marines, the following description describes it pretty well: “The United States Merchant Marine[1][2] is an organization composed of United States civilian mariners and U.S. civilian and federally owned merchant vessels. Both the civilian mariners and the merchant vessels are managed by a combination of the government and private sectors, and engage in commerce or transportation of goods and services in and out of the navigable waters of the United States.[3] The Merchant Marine primarily transports domestic and international cargo and passengers during peacetime, and operate and maintain deep-sea merchant ships, tugboats, towboats, ferries, dredges, excursion vessels, charter boats and other waterborne craft on the oceans, the Great Lakes, rivers, canals, harbors, and other waterways.” In times of war, the merchant marines can be utilized by the military. I don’t think there’s anything that directly contradicts this idea in the films.
Basically since we see bleeding in Live Action in the Acolyte for the first time, at least this part became officially canon. There was also the theory that red crystals are made artifically, but that can officially be dismissed. And therefore it is mostly save, that purifying turns these crystals white and this is how Asohka Tano came to her white lightsabers.
Of course when ANH was made, the Luke\Leia sibling thing hadn’t been conceived of yet so Obi-Wan could not have been smiling due to them being reunited, perhaps he smiled seeing as how she was successfully rescued
For me when obi gives the sly smile before Vader strikes him down. Was because Luke was there and obi wan knew it would push Luke further towards the rebellion side
How else do you think they have a list of force sensitive individuals? "Ok Master Mac-El Uven, here's form 69-x.3. You know the drill, list your coitus encounters with what individuals, how far they went, which ones where contraception wasn't used and of the ones it was used, you were unable to verify the propel disposal methods of your prophylactics."
"The academy" doesn't automatically mean the Imperial Academy. We have lots of academies in this country and we typically refer to them more fully by part of their names. The Army Academy is referred to as "West Point," the Naval Academy is often referred to as "Annapolis" and so on. Maybe Luke was referring to a different academy, maybe the Han Solo Academy of Freighter Piloting, or something like that. 😂
Not sure if it's stated anywhere, but it's likely that Luke's intention was to be trained by the Imperial Academy and then defect to the Rebellion like his friend Biggs. At the very least, Luke outright says that he hates the Empire and expresses great interest in the Rebellion, so it's safe to say that he never intended to serve in the Imperial military any longer than he had to. Let's not forget that Han did in fact attend the Imperial Academy and serve in the military for a time.
My thoughts watching this: “Hmm, yep I knew that…yep, that too…people don’t know that?…know that though I disagree…seriously this isn’t obvious?…knew that…knew that…knew that…oh, I didnt know-no wait, I did. Huh.” The one thing I learned from this was that I’m an even bigger Star Wars fan than I thought. 😂
I thought Yoda was using Ataru, which was a very agressive lightsaber form using the Force to augment physical abilities (like jumping). Essentially, Yoda uses his will to overcome his infirmaties during the fight.
Not too bad, but remember Anakins fall was manipulated the whole way by Palpatine and the Jedi counsel. Palpatine manipulated Anakin since he was a boy. The Jedi Counsel manipulated him by not trusting him, and turning their backs on anyone or anything that challenged them.
Let us not forgett that Anikin's Original Death scene, even though he was 45.. His face is also Bloated due to him wearing that terrible face mask & helmet most of the time as well = Ageing!
Its probably somwhere here in the comments, but Luke planned to go to the academy to be trained and then defect. Most rebel pilots trained at imperial academies and then defected, Biggs and Wedge among them.
Here’s the question, if Luke had gone to the academy, what is the statistical possibility Vader would have been in near space to him and could have found him and just Sithed him up?
About number 9: Why was that youngling that group Yoda was teaching could figure out that Kamino was erased but Jocasta Nu, the lady Obi-Wan was talking to, didn't think or that?
The innocence of youth. Yoda talks to how wonderful the mind of a child is because they see things the way they are whereas adult views can be corrupted. Jocasta is so confident in the archives that they are infallible.
Very true the prequel might have advanced cgi and made after the original but because the og focus on the characters and the prequel focus on cgi clone army , aliens and world's
To understand Vader’s aging, look at that photo comparing Obama from day one to the end of his two terms. Responsibility is aging, especially when you are mostly a machine that can rarely get out of your suit
The Jedi not being celibate leads to a lot of other interesting points. In Ep.6 Obi-Wan tells Luke that the Emperor knew that if Anakin had any offspring, they would be a threat to him. He says it just matter-of-factly. That was our first hint that Jedi weren't celibate and that their having offspring wasn't unheard of. Now a male Jedi, having had a one-nighter presumably would leave without knowing he'd fathered a child. Or, if the woman tried to contact him, she'd be sent away by the Jedi while he would maybe be made unavailable to her. Basically, the Order would keep them apart if they saw the need. Also, what about a female Jedi getting knocked up? I'd guess that the Order would have a procedure to separate the baby from her at birth so as to prevent any maternal bonding. Of course, much has been written about the maternal drive so its probable that over the years many female Jedi left the Order to have children. Then there's the hereditary Force sensitivity issue. Luke said the Force was strong in his family. So we know that the midichlorians follow family lines. Imagine a female Jedi leaving the Order to have children, and her kids are strong with the Force, and a few Jedi come snooping around to look into taking them to the Order. Since the mother left the Order to have kids, presumably she'd deny the Jedi any access to them. Multiply this over a thousand generations and we might find the galaxy full of Force-sensitive people who didn't join the Order.
Grogu was presumably the child of Yoda and Yaddle, spawned because their species was approaching extinction. Evidently Jedi had enough experience making babies to realise that Force sensitivity is genetic and can be passed on to the next generation. They just can't marry or engage in parenting, and the babies are essentially raised by the Order.
If Luke had gone to the Imperial Academy, I wonder how long it would've taken before the name "Skywalker" set off amy Imperial alarm bells that might've eventually gotten the attention of Vader and the Emperor. They made sure no one knew that Vader and Anakin Skywalker were the same person, so it stands to reason that they'd have some kind of computer alert system or whatever set up to watch for any mention of that name. I know that the real reason for this is because George Lucas hadn't yet decided that Vader was Luke's father when he shot the original movie, but in Universe it is really stupid that his name was Luke Skywalker and not Luke Lars when we first meet him. If anything, Luke should have found out his true surname from Obi-Wan when Obi-Wan was telling him about his father being a Jedi.
In the EU novel "I, Jedi," which takes place in 11 ABY, Corran Horn - former Corellian Security investigator turned Rogue Squadron fighter pilot turned Jedi trainee (and my absolute favorite EU character) said as much to Luke. He points out that Luke had been planning to attend the Imperial Academy, and that if he did then the name "Skywalker" on his application would trigger alarm bells all over the Empire. There's a whole subplot around this conversation that would take me paragraphs to explain but in essence Corran is pointing out that Luke is too set in his own ways and clings too much to his own accepted viewpoint, so he's trying to get Luke to look at his own history and the people in it from a different perspective than he normally does. He uses the fact that Luke was allowed to keep the name Skywalker to illustrate his point. It could be that, if not for the whole escaping droids thing, perhaps Obi-Wan WANTED Luke to keep that name so that the existence of someone from Tatooine with that name would flush Vader out so that Obi-Wan could confront him, which shows Obi-Wan was a lot more cunning than Luke gave him credit for. Or perhaps it was something as simple as Obi-Wan wanted Luke to just grow up to be a good man and redeem the Skywalker name. We don't know, and that's the whole point - always consider multiple points of view and don't get hidebound to one particular viewpoint or mindset.
@@wickideazy Technically speaking, that whole thing was a retcon by the author of the book, because as I said, George Lucas didn't decide that Anakin and Vader were actually the same person until it was time to make Empire, so there was no need to hide Luke's true surname from him in the original movie. Hell, Luke's originally planned surname was Starkiller, which is a terrible name for an optimistic hero. Interesting points on that book, though. I'll have to check that one out. I remember Corran Horn from the New Jedi Order books I read when I was in high school and I really liked his character in those.
Going to the Academy was just the done thing for people his age. As Aunt Beru pointed out, it was the main way for young adults in the Outer Rim Territories to escape their impoverished backgrounds and improve themselves.
They aren't powered by the kyber crystals, they have a very long life battery, and that energy is focused through the crystal, which creates the saber blade.
Oh. Is this canon? I had always assumed that the crystal was the power source, tapping into the Force for energy. If so, does that make the Death Star the size of a small moon, just for the sake of needing so many power generators? I’m not even going to touch on the power requirements needed for the Star Destroyers in RoS, with each one having its own Death Star laser equivalent (but then, I guess I am a “sequel trilogy hater”… Cheers,
@@Wolf359inc welp, looks like they changed it maybe? Wookiepedia has the canon as it being the power source. But I remember a cross section and explanation that they are for focusing the battery.
I noticed it but never found it that odd. He wouldn't be the first person who joined the military as a means to an end despite a political distaste for it. If you have any intelligence, you optimize your moves for the world as it is, not as you think it should be.
3:41 He was going to join the Imperial Academy, like his friends Biggs & Porkins. After graduation, he was going to jump ship; just like they did, to the Rebellion... It simple to figure out if you, ya know... Watch the movie 😂
When you think about it they essentially copied the 3 main characters story arcs in the sequel trilogy to the 3 main characters in the original trilogy. Rey,/Luke. Both lived on a baron sand planet dreaming about something else Poe/Leia. leaders in the resistance captured by the bad guys to be rescued by someone who later joins the resistance Finn/Han. Both joined the bad guys at one point. Han the Empire and Finn the first order. They later escaped and ended up reluctantly joining the good guys in the fight against the bad guys.
@@Chyronn My issue with the sequel trilogy is mostly that the saga was complete after the prequel trilogy and so the sequel trilogy was just unnecessary. They simply didn’t have a real reason to exist. Felt tacked on. Like a three movie “scourging of the shire” or “Buu saga,” or the last few chapters of The Wizard of Oz, etc. (and, by the way, I love all these franchises…. I’m picking on them because I love them). Sometimes, story writers simply need to know when their story is done, because once it’s done, anything further just seems like an epilogue that’s far too long.
Also, it’s possible that if they made Rey’s story similar to how Sylvester Stallone and Michael B. Jordan did with Creed-same universe, but ultimately a new story, it may have worked better. The fault really was in considering Rey’s story to be one and the same as that of the Skywalker family, when it was its own.
Luke wanted to join. But Han and Finn DID. 🤔. As far as the tech… The OT follows the Rebellion. The had to use whatever they could acquire. And the Empire directed major resources to the DEATH STAR. Beautiful how
As far as the Prequels looking more advanced, when you look at the history of the Star Wars "galaxy" it full of ebbs and tides, times when technology just seems to disappear and has to be rediscovered or hs sagnated. I mean the Old Republic stood for a thousand years, yet many aspects of it seen less advanced than say the first 100 years of the Federation.
Anyone thinking Luke wanted to join the empire 😂😅 needs to read to book or talk to George... no one wants to join but many would go to the academy to get off what ever rock they lived on and then defect. That is what Biggs did.
Sean, I love you, dude, and while I am a fan of all science fiction, can you do me a solid? When you’re discussing Star Wars, please don’t be wearing a “Discovery” T-shirt. Granted, this was done by the editor, with you popping on screen briefly, but this is the sort of thing that inflames fans who are into the whole “Trek vs Wars” thing… 😂😈😂 Cheers,
Remarkable idea...nothing of the Disney era is real and everyone needs to realize that. More importantly, any new films and stories should go back in accordance with the original books. The real books, from the 70s and 80s....the original real stories, well written thought narrative, especially since Anakin is not from Tatooine. Never was, surprise surprise!!!!! Tatooine is not the center of the galaxy
P.S. In the true stories....Anakin Skywalker is not a father til in his 30s......just telling yall the real story. Am I the person who remembers this? I cannot be the only person who purchased the books. You folks need to consider what the boosters are doing to your brain.
I change my upvote to a downvote because of that fucking annoyingly loud high tone. It was a joke, yes, I get it. But it also set off tinnitus through my headphones. You shouldn't do it again.
Luke wanted to go to the academy to be a pilot, mainly to get off Tatooine.
Right. He was a young kid who didn't want to spend his life as a moisture farmer.
Looking for a better job.
I didn't think of yhe Academy as a military school but more as another word for University. At most it would be a merchant marine academy. Their is a deleted scene with Luke's friend, Biggs Darklighter, meeting Luke after Graduating and telling him he and some others were going to jump ship at a certain system and join the rebellion. This was before the jaws came to the farm. Luke tells Biggs something like, "well guess I won't be joining the Imperals."
You wanted to go to the academy to be a pilot mainly to get off Tatooine, mate, if anyone did…
further, like actually states that he hates the empire
I always thought it was pretty obvious in AOTC that Dooku was the one who erased Camino from the Jedi archives. He’s a former Jedi who even has a statue of himself in the library.
And they said it was a man called Tyrannus which we know to be Dooku. I didn't get that being in the video either.
One thing's certain: Luke would not have been a stormtrooper.
He's too short.
And he hits his targets.
@@happyslapsgiving5421 I didn't want to say it
He's not as tall as whomever they cloned to make troopers.
Gotta wonder then if the script would have been changed if Mark Hamill weren't cast. Just sayin'.
Yoda says himself in the original trilogy that a small frail body is basically meaningless to someone who is strong in the Force.
"Judge me by my size, do you? And well you shouldn't, for the Force is my ally. ... Luminous beings, are we. Not in this crude matter."
7:55 that loud beep had me looking all over my room.
But didn't Luke say to Obi Wan, "It's not that I like the Empire - I hate it, but there's nothing I can do about it right now."
He did, but he also knew that joining the Imperial Academy was his only ticket off of Tattooine. He probably thought he could join and then leave once he had footing on another planet.
@@KevyNova Yep, plus in one of the deleted scenes Biggs outright tells Luke that he and a few buddies plan to jump ship and join the rebellion on their next trip. Joining the Imperial Academy is how Biggs got off of Tattooine, too.
Yeah, Luke never wanted to join the empire. He wanted to go to the Imperial Academy to learn to be a pilot and join the Rebellion, just like his best friend Biggs Darklighter.
Sticky situation to be sure. Luke doesn't like the Empire, as I'm sure many didn't in that galaxy, yet since they controlled everything, if you wanted to learn piloting, you had to do it through *their* academy (hence, "Imperial"). And your move to the Rebellion would need to be VERY carefully and sneakily done, as most likely you would be, cough, forcibly "recruited" into the Imperial navy, as a TIE pilot or whatever (reminds me of the attempted forced recruitment of Captain Von Trapp in The Sound of Music, before he and his family escaped). How Biggs jumped over to the Rebellion and managed to keep his life (at least briefly before the Battle of Yavin), I'll never know.
Biggs Dorkwadder
I wouldn't consider myself a Star Wars aficionado, just a casual fan, but even I knew all this. :) One thing I wonder if people have thought about: In the original movie, right before Ben tells Luke that Darth Vader betrayed and murdered his father, Alec Guinness glances down and to one side for a brief moment. This gesture is a microexpression, something that people trained in interrogating people recognize as a sign that the person is lying. But, when that movie was being filmed, there's no way Alec Guinness would have known that. It's unclear why he moved in that way, but it works so very, very well when watching later when we know the character *was* lying.
Fun fact: During production for Empire Strikes Back, to deter leaks from getting out in the script Darth Vader tells Luke; "Obi-Wan killed your father". Funny enough, from Vader's point of view this is also true to call back to Kenobi justifying his lie.
@@MSThalamus-gj9oi Alec Guinness was a master thespian with many years experience. Experienced actors know how to prepare for a role. I think its possible that even though he wasn't wild about doing a sci-fi movie that he felt had limited possibility of success, his professionalism made him prepare for it the same as if he were doing Hamlet. He likely looked at the script and read into it the character's background and motivation. Then he delivered his part by acting it well, perhaps better than GL deserved. I understand and agree with the observation of the microexpressions, but top actors can use them to better act out a movie role.
@@GrinderCB Of course. My point was that at that time, Alec Guinness couldn't have actually *known* (for sure) that Kenobi was lying. He may have surmised that, or maybe he just thought the character would feel uncomfortable talking about it. After all it was his failing that led to the outcome, regardless of whether he was telling the full truth or not. I just meant that the scene reads really, really well in light of the audience knowing now that Kenobi was telling a bold faced lie in that moment.
Had Luke joined the Imperial military, he absolutely would have been picked up by Vader and Palpatine... And who knows what's going to happen from there?
That's a big assumption. There's literally millions of of troops in the Imperial military. Most of them are probably never even on the same planet as Vader or Palpatine. Leia, on the other hand, was a member of the senate, and regularly had direct contact with them, and was never noticed as being Force strong or related to Vader.
@@jayb8934 Luke *Skywalker*, and his innate Force abilities are going to be more noticeable when doing combat training (especially as a *TIE pilot*) than a politician. Not to mention the Empire would absolutely have checks in place to pick up on potential Force Sensitives.
All it takes is a report of "hey this farm kid from Tatooine named Skywalker has abnormally good reflexes" to get the ball rolling, and that ball ends with Luke Skywalker standing in the throne room with Darth Vader and Palpatine.
@@TimberWolf99 But honestly, what are the odds that such a report would reach all the way up to Vader or Palpatine? If Luke stayed in the Imperial military as a career and worked his way up the ranks, sure. He'd probably end up a member of Vader's personal squadron pretty quickly. But as someone who likely planned to just graduate and leave or do a minimum tour of service... I think you're underestimating what it likely takes to be noticed by the rulers of a galaxy spanning empire among millions of soldiers. Luke would probably stand out to his direct superiors, but they would still be many, many levels removed from Vader and Palpatine.
@@jayb8934 Training instructor reports on his abilities. Those reports go up the chain to the head of whichever academy he ends up attending. Those reports are likely automatically flagged as being "of interest", which also automatically triggers an investigation - One that would likely start very low-key, with simple observations and monitoring of his training reports to see if there is a consistent pattern. Once there is enough evidence, one of Palpatine's *many* agents is sent to evaluate and possibly run some form of test specifically for Force Sensitivity which gets reported directly to Palpatine himself. Even if he does graduate without getting clocked, he's still got a few years in Imperial service where he absolutely *will* get noticed.
And of course, once the name *Skywalker* flashes in front of the eyes of either Vader or Palpatine, that's it. Even if it somehow doesn't happen until after he's served out his minimum contract (assuming the Empire doesn't pull dirty tricks to *keep* people in), he's not evading either of them.
It was his dream to go become an Imperial pilot.
Yes!
It makes sense, he wanted to join the academy to be a heroic fighter pilot. It was his only really good option to get to that dream. 👍👍
ANY kind of pilot. So did Biggs so they would have deserted together. 🤓😎✌🏼
Luke wanted to be a pilot at the academy, but he and Biggs were both worried about being "drafted" by the Empire.
RotJ implies Kenobi had no cause to believe L&L are siblings.
ESB implies the meaningful looks between Kenobi and Vader was about Vader discovering his offspring.
Original movie prior to all retcon: Kenobi smiles when Vader sees the resemblance between the kid in the cargo bay and the ally he slew so long before. It was setup for sequels about avenging Anakin's murder.
(I am a little out on the limb of speculation, here. Check all this with Star Wars scholars who are more venerable than I am and who have good memories.)
In my head canon, I always said that Luke was trying to get into a merchant marine type academy, and not a military one. Even Biggs wasn’t wearing an Imperial uniform in the cut footage.
For those unfamiliar with the merchant marines, the following description describes it pretty well:
“The United States Merchant Marine[1][2] is an organization composed of United States civilian mariners and U.S. civilian and federally owned merchant vessels. Both the civilian mariners and the merchant vessels are managed by a combination of the government and private sectors, and engage in commerce or transportation of goods and services in and out of the navigable waters of the United States.[3] The Merchant Marine primarily transports domestic and international cargo and passengers during peacetime, and operate and maintain deep-sea merchant ships, tugboats, towboats, ferries, dredges, excursion vessels, charter boats and other waterborne craft on the oceans, the Great Lakes, rivers, canals, harbors, and other waterways.”
In times of war, the merchant marines can be utilized by the military.
I don’t think there’s anything that directly contradicts this idea in the films.
I waste more time blocking ads than it would take to watch them. So worth it.
Basically since we see bleeding in Live Action in the Acolyte for the first time, at least this part became officially canon. There was also the theory that red crystals are made artifically, but that can officially be dismissed. And therefore it is mostly save, that purifying turns these crystals white and this is how Asohka Tano came to her white lightsabers.
The prophetic mentioning bleeding a kyber crystal hours before The Acolyte showed it in live action.
Of course when ANH was made, the Luke\Leia sibling thing hadn’t been conceived of yet so Obi-Wan could not have been smiling due to them being reunited, perhaps he smiled seeing as how she was successfully rescued
I thought he was trying to go to the flight academy
For me when obi gives the sly smile before Vader strikes him down. Was because Luke was there and obi wan knew it would push Luke further towards the rebellion side
Yeah, One would think if Jedi weren't able to get a little "hey hey" every so often, Im sure there would be more turning to the Dark Side.
Or they’d be going after the Younglings like Catholic priests.
How else do you think they have a list of force sensitive individuals?
"Ok Master Mac-El Uven, here's form 69-x.3. You know the drill, list your coitus encounters with what individuals, how far they went, which ones where contraception wasn't used and of the ones it was used, you were unable to verify the propel disposal methods of your prophylactics."
"The academy" doesn't automatically mean the Imperial Academy. We have lots of academies in this country and we typically refer to them more fully by part of their names. The Army Academy is referred to as "West Point," the Naval Academy is often referred to as "Annapolis" and so on. Maybe Luke was referring to a different academy, maybe the Han Solo Academy of Freighter Piloting, or something like that. 😂
Not sure if it's stated anywhere, but it's likely that Luke's intention was to be trained by the Imperial Academy and then defect to the Rebellion like his friend Biggs. At the very least, Luke outright says that he hates the Empire and expresses great interest in the Rebellion, so it's safe to say that he never intended to serve in the Imperial military any longer than he had to.
Let's not forget that Han did in fact attend the Imperial Academy and serve in the military for a time.
My thoughts watching this: “Hmm, yep I knew that…yep, that too…people don’t know that?…know that though I disagree…seriously this isn’t obvious?…knew that…knew that…knew that…oh, I didnt know-no wait, I did. Huh.”
The one thing I learned from this was that I’m an even bigger Star Wars fan than I thought. 😂
Kyber crystals don't power the lightsaber. They are essentially used as a focusing crystal.
I thought Yoda was using Ataru, which was a very agressive lightsaber form using the Force to augment physical abilities (like jumping). Essentially, Yoda uses his will to overcome his infirmaties during the fight.
Leia knew the empire let them go, but she immediately went to the rebel hidden base.
Not too bad, but remember Anakins fall was manipulated the whole way by Palpatine and the Jedi counsel.
Palpatine manipulated Anakin since he was a boy.
The Jedi Counsel manipulated him by not trusting him, and turning their backs on anyone or anything that challenged them.
"New Canon," we all know that Legends will always be the True Canon.
They literally just sprayed Geonosis with bug spray!
Let us not forgett that Anikin's Original Death scene, even though he was 45.. His face is also Bloated due to him wearing that terrible face mask & helmet most of the time as well = Ageing!
they eradicated the Geonosians before the death star was complete, let alone operational. the death star was not complete until after rebels was over
Its probably somwhere here in the comments, but Luke planned to go to the academy to be trained and then defect. Most rebel pilots trained at imperial academies and then defected, Biggs and Wedge among them.
Here’s the question, if Luke had gone to the academy, what is the statistical possibility Vader would have been in near space to him and could have found him and just Sithed him up?
07:56: The Force was with that bleep!
About number 9: Why was that youngling that group Yoda was teaching could figure out that Kamino was erased but Jocasta Nu, the lady Obi-Wan was talking to, didn't think or that?
The innocence of youth. Yoda talks to how wonderful the mind of a child is because they see things the way they are whereas adult views can be corrupted. Jocasta is so confident in the archives that they are infallible.
Very true the prequel might have advanced cgi and made after the original but because the og focus on the characters and the prequel focus on cgi clone army , aliens and world's
To understand Vader’s aging, look at that photo comparing Obama from day one to the end of his two terms. Responsibility is aging, especially when you are mostly a machine that can rarely get out of your suit
Anakin was a cokehead
Look at Dan Aykroyd, Brian Doyle-Murray and Chevy Chase to see how it ages you.
The Jedi not being celibate leads to a lot of other interesting points. In Ep.6 Obi-Wan tells Luke that the Emperor knew that if Anakin had any offspring, they would be a threat to him. He says it just matter-of-factly. That was our first hint that Jedi weren't celibate and that their having offspring wasn't unheard of. Now a male Jedi, having had a one-nighter presumably would leave without knowing he'd fathered a child. Or, if the woman tried to contact him, she'd be sent away by the Jedi while he would maybe be made unavailable to her. Basically, the Order would keep them apart if they saw the need. Also, what about a female Jedi getting knocked up? I'd guess that the Order would have a procedure to separate the baby from her at birth so as to prevent any maternal bonding. Of course, much has been written about the maternal drive so its probable that over the years many female Jedi left the Order to have children. Then there's the hereditary Force sensitivity issue. Luke said the Force was strong in his family. So we know that the midichlorians follow family lines. Imagine a female Jedi leaving the Order to have children, and her kids are strong with the Force, and a few Jedi come snooping around to look into taking them to the Order. Since the mother left the Order to have kids, presumably she'd deny the Jedi any access to them. Multiply this over a thousand generations and we might find the galaxy full of Force-sensitive people who didn't join the Order.
Grogu was presumably the child of Yoda and Yaddle, spawned because their species was approaching extinction. Evidently Jedi had enough experience making babies to realise that Force sensitivity is genetic and can be passed on to the next generation. They just can't marry or engage in parenting, and the babies are essentially raised by the Order.
If Luke had gone to the Imperial Academy, I wonder how long it would've taken before the name "Skywalker" set off amy Imperial alarm bells that might've eventually gotten the attention of Vader and the Emperor. They made sure no one knew that Vader and Anakin Skywalker were the same person, so it stands to reason that they'd have some kind of computer alert system or whatever set up to watch for any mention of that name. I know that the real reason for this is because George Lucas hadn't yet decided that Vader was Luke's father when he shot the original movie, but in Universe it is really stupid that his name was Luke Skywalker and not Luke Lars when we first meet him. If anything, Luke should have found out his true surname from Obi-Wan when Obi-Wan was telling him about his father being a Jedi.
In the EU novel "I, Jedi," which takes place in 11 ABY, Corran Horn - former Corellian Security investigator turned Rogue Squadron fighter pilot turned Jedi trainee (and my absolute favorite EU character) said as much to Luke. He points out that Luke had been planning to attend the Imperial Academy, and that if he did then the name "Skywalker" on his application would trigger alarm bells all over the Empire. There's a whole subplot around this conversation that would take me paragraphs to explain but in essence Corran is pointing out that Luke is too set in his own ways and clings too much to his own accepted viewpoint, so he's trying to get Luke to look at his own history and the people in it from a different perspective than he normally does. He uses the fact that Luke was allowed to keep the name Skywalker to illustrate his point. It could be that, if not for the whole escaping droids thing, perhaps Obi-Wan WANTED Luke to keep that name so that the existence of someone from Tatooine with that name would flush Vader out so that Obi-Wan could confront him, which shows Obi-Wan was a lot more cunning than Luke gave him credit for. Or perhaps it was something as simple as Obi-Wan wanted Luke to just grow up to be a good man and redeem the Skywalker name. We don't know, and that's the whole point - always consider multiple points of view and don't get hidebound to one particular viewpoint or mindset.
@@wickideazy Technically speaking, that whole thing was a retcon by the author of the book, because as I said, George Lucas didn't decide that Anakin and Vader were actually the same person until it was time to make Empire, so there was no need to hide Luke's true surname from him in the original movie. Hell, Luke's originally planned surname was Starkiller, which is a terrible name for an optimistic hero. Interesting points on that book, though. I'll have to check that one out. I remember Corran Horn from the New Jedi Order books I read when I was in high school and I really liked his character in those.
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If he wanted to join the Academy, why did he say he hated the Empire?
Going to the Academy was just the done thing for people his age. As Aunt Beru pointed out, it was the main way for young adults in the Outer Rim Territories to escape their impoverished backgrounds and improve themselves.
I thought Anakin should have been told"Jedi are not allowed to marry, it's OK to get laid occasionally."
They aren't powered by the kyber crystals, they have a very long life battery, and that energy is focused through the crystal, which creates the saber blade.
Oh. Is this canon? I had always assumed that the crystal was the power source, tapping into the Force for energy. If so, does that make the Death Star the size of a small moon, just for the sake of needing so many power generators?
I’m not even going to touch on the power requirements needed for the Star Destroyers in RoS, with each one having its own Death Star laser equivalent (but then, I guess I am a “sequel trilogy hater”…
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@@Wolf359inc welp, looks like they changed it maybe? Wookiepedia has the canon as it being the power source. But I remember a cross section and explanation that they are for focusing the battery.
I noticed it but never found it that odd. He wouldn't be the first person who joined the military as a means to an end despite a political distaste for it. If you have any intelligence, you optimize your moves for the world as it is, not as you think it should be.
I disagree that Luke was going to join the Empire. His friend Biggs went to the academy ahead of him, but was waiting for him in the rebellion.
Thank you for using this dude in the video instead of that other one with the insanely annoying "up speak" crap at the end of every sentence.. 😃👍 ❤
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He was going to join the Imperial Academy, like his friends Biggs & Porkins.
After graduation, he was going to jump ship; just like they did, to the Rebellion...
It simple to figure out if you, ya know... Watch the movie 😂
the two Imperial officers who DID NOT destroy the droids escape pod in a new hope What if?
When you think about it they essentially copied the 3 main characters story arcs in the sequel trilogy to the 3 main characters in the original trilogy.
Rey,/Luke. Both lived on a baron sand planet dreaming about something else
Poe/Leia. leaders in the resistance captured by the bad guys to be rescued by someone who later joins the resistance
Finn/Han. Both joined the bad guys at one point. Han the Empire and Finn the first order. They later escaped and ended up reluctantly joining the good guys in the fight against the bad guys.
Not just that, but the story tropes as well… the sequels are shameless money grabs, that don’t add anything to the Skywalker Saga.
And that is why people don't like the Sequel Trilogy; they were just re-imaginings of the OT
@@Chyronn My issue with the sequel trilogy is mostly that the saga was complete after the prequel trilogy and so the sequel trilogy was just unnecessary. They simply didn’t have a real reason to exist. Felt tacked on. Like a three movie “scourging of the shire” or “Buu saga,” or the last few chapters of The Wizard of Oz, etc. (and, by the way, I love all these franchises…. I’m picking on them because I love them). Sometimes, story writers simply need to know when their story is done, because once it’s done, anything further just seems like an epilogue that’s far too long.
Also, it’s possible that if they made Rey’s story similar to how Sylvester Stallone and Michael B. Jordan did with Creed-same universe, but ultimately a new story, it may have worked better. The fault really was in considering Rey’s story to be one and the same as that of the Skywalker family, when it was its own.
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#1 is an obvious entry I didn't realize needed explaining.
Also, it's Force *Valor,* not Force Velour.😂
Valor, like courage.
Well, they CALLED him Click Clack. 🤓😎✌🏼
Luke wanted to join. But Han and Finn DID. 🤔. As far as the tech…
The OT follows the Rebellion. The had to use whatever they could acquire. And the Empire directed major resources to the DEATH STAR. Beautiful how
As far as the Prequels looking more advanced, when you look at the history of the Star Wars "galaxy" it full of ebbs and tides, times when technology just seems to disappear and has to be rediscovered or hs sagnated. I mean the Old Republic stood for a thousand years, yet many aspects of it seen less advanced than say the first 100 years of the Federation.
Not bad list, prequels higher tech is a good point
6:50 Their snooty stubbornness and stone age mentality is what got them extinct.
Luke is NOT the chosen one, anakin is. Luke is just the catalyst
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Anything that Disney says is non cannon as they have nothing to do with the original story
Nah Yoda is just a ketamine addict
If you read the books and the comics you would know all this
Sean in another Star Wars video; is Ellie next???
Anyone thinking Luke wanted to join the empire 😂😅 needs to read to book or talk to George... no one wants to join but many would go to the academy to get off what ever rock they lived on and then defect. That is what Biggs did.
Ohhhh so Jedi can fuck they just can’t call you the day after
I’ve never been here this early 🤣🤣🙌
To come up with something new pretty much every day is insane. Good work.
Sean, I love you, dude, and while I am a fan of all science fiction, can you do me a solid?
When you’re discussing Star Wars, please don’t be wearing a “Discovery” T-shirt. Granted, this was done by the editor, with you popping on screen briefly, but this is the sort of thing that inflames fans who are into the whole “Trek vs Wars” thing…
😂😈😂
Cheers,
#7, totally wrong. Like tells Ben that he hates the empire but that there’s nothing he ca do about it right now.
Every time I hear Seán in a Star Wars video, I start to worry I'm in the wrong timeline... Then I just listen to his voice and all is well
Luke joining the empire is no different than anyone joining the military to get the hell out of your pos small town.
Remarkable idea...nothing of the Disney era is real and everyone needs to realize that. More importantly, any new films and stories should go back in accordance with the original books. The real books, from the 70s and 80s....the original real stories, well written thought narrative, especially since Anakin is not from Tatooine. Never was, surprise surprise!!!!! Tatooine is not the center of the galaxy
P.S. In the true stories....Anakin Skywalker is not a father til in his 30s......just telling yall the real story. Am I the person who remembers this? I cannot be the only person who purchased the books. You folks need to consider what the boosters are doing to your brain.
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Where are my Ceteacean Observations???
I change my upvote to a downvote because of that fucking annoyingly loud high tone.
It was a joke, yes, I get it.
But it also set off tinnitus through my headphones. You shouldn't do it again.
Dooku is powerful enough to kill Yaddle? Is that a Lucas-approved story?
I know acting is acting. How are Luke Skywalker and Mark Hamill two completely different people? :(
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