LIVE: Eye Drops Murder Trial | WI v. Jessy Kurczewski DAY 2
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- DAY 2 - WI v. Jessy Kurczewski | A Wisconsin woman is facing life in prison if convicted of killing a friend in her care by poisoning her with eye drops. Jessy Kurczewski, 39, is charged with one count of first-degree intentional homicide and two counts of felony theft in the 2018 death of Lynn Hernan. Waukesha County court Judge Jennifer Dorow presiding.
Prosecutors say Kurczewski killed Hernan, whom she was caring for, and staged the scene to look like a suicide by drug overdose. Hernan reportedly died after drinking a water bottle mixed with 6 bottles of Visine.
Kurczewski told police Hernan was suicidal and “had been trying to kill herself by drinking Visine in vodka,” according to a criminal complaint. Investigators say, in total, Kurczewski stole $290,210.06 from Hernan before and after her death.
Trial Notes
00:00:00 Introduction
00:12:59 STATE'S WITNESS #4: Detective Timothy Loberg, Waukesha Sheriff’s Department
01:43:17 COURT BREAK
02:16:41 STATE'S WITNESS #4: Detective Timothy Loberg, Waukesha Sheriff’s Department (Cont.)
02:47:29 STATE'S WITNESS #5 Dr. Linda Biedrzycki, Waukesha Co. Medical Examiner's Office
03:30:00 COURT BREAK
05:07:20 STATE'S WITNESS #5 Dr. Linda Biedrzycki, Waukesha Co. Medical Examiner's Office (Cont.)
06:26:51 COURT BREAK
06:56:51 STATE'S WITNESS #5 Dr. Linda Biedrzycki, Waukesha Co. Medical Examiner's Office (Cont.)
08:06:15 RECESS
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I have great respect for this medical examiner. She has a huge amount of education and training.
Ya I love her .. she was the examiner for the Christmas parade trial.. same with this judge .. she’s great
This medical examiner is a gem of a witness! Clear, concise, and articulate explanations of complex medical issues in this case. Brilliant doctor.
Imagine the first, nervous day on jury duty and walking into court to see Judge Jennifer’s smiling face and kind manner, she’s definitely one of the best Judges I’ve seen 👏👏x
I can’t argue with your assessment. Judge Dorow is one of a kind.
I could stare at her all day… lol, I guess I am 🤣.
I’m here for Judge Dorrow! I love her!
Me too 💜 she is such an amazing Judge.
Same !! ❤❤❤
Me too...great judge 😍
@CrimeCrochet I am as well. Wanted to watch her when there isn't a lunatic trying to represent themselves....
@@erinm9568 🤣 ikr
I’d hate to lay my life in those defense attorneys hands 😂🤦♀️and will someone give him some water?!? He’s got cotton mouth😂😂
Finally somebody else has noticed it! I can't stand when people speak into microphones and they have the worst cottonmouth and they don't take a drink of water it's so annoying! I hear it on the judge shows that I watch all the time some are so bad that all you hear is smacking of their mouth.
Love seeing so many familiar faces from the Darrell Brooks trial. Judge Dorrow, Medical Examiner, etc
I have never seen a judge as nice and friendly as this judge. She’s also pretty!
But she doesn't take any bs either
She reminds me of Wonder Woman.
@@randompetsandnunsagreed!
Did this defense attorney go to the Darrell Brookes School of Law? OMG
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Yup!
Well Judge Dorrow is definitely familliar with the Darrell Brooks strategy.
Subject Matter jurisdiction has not been proven 😅
I feel sorry for the court reporter for having the camera on a closeup of her face for every testimony. That would make me a nervous wreck! They should move her out of view so she can do her job without having to be on display!
I think it is important that she is close to witnesses to ensure she hears their testimony clearly. She does have to type every single word that is said! That is what would make me nervous!! LOL
She probably doesn’t know the camera is on her as well 😅
I agree, she could be a foot to the right of the stand & still hear everyone clearly, she has to record lawyers, judge, anything else & is not RIGHT in front of them! It is distracting to me. 🙄
I agree I don't like my picture I haven't taken one in years. and I don't like to be the center of attention.
I was thinking the same thing lol.
My goodness, this defense attorney is a mess 😡😮
And annoying!
I love this Doctor. She is incredible
The medical examiner is so soothing to listen to, and her explanations are easy to understand.
This medical examiner did a very thorough job. Very well done!
This woman should have a claim for ineffective counsel. Never watched such confusing and irritating attorneys. I hope she isn't paying them. Unfortunately the people of WI are.
When I looked Atty Donna Kuchler up, I was so surprised what great ratings she had.
@@SunnySky7ikr😬
@@SunnySky7 I made that comment the first day. Since then I've been conflicted. Sometimes she seems to be very articulate and makes good arguments, and then it's like a different person steps in and screws it up. It's really strange. The guy attorney is just awful all the time though.. He should just be quiet, lol . I can actually see the jury being conflicted about the murder. Hate to see the financial hijinks send someone to prison for murder. Of course after Murdaugh, maybe that's just the way they do it. It will be interesting to see what the verdict is. Not nearly as impressed with the judge as I expected either. She's pretty sharp with the defense when it doesn't seem called for. She could do a better job of being impartial. Also, this is after watching Judge Carroll for weeks. Now that's a JUDGE
@@arealfactchecker7458 I completely agree with all that you’ve said! Very interesting case and people involved.
She's probably using Lynn's money to pay the clowns.
I bet Dr Linda B. was glad she didn't see😳 Darrell Brooks when she came in the room 😂😂🇨🇦
2hr46min, does this attorney actually think he is winning over the jury because this detective cannot tell an exact date of his last suicide investigation
This defense is a waste of court time. Endless stupid questions
you obviously have no law training
@@CrakeWasRight obviously 🙄
The defense is only asking questions on cross to the stupid questions the prosecution asked in the first place. I think the defense is doing a great job to poke holes in the prosecution's evidence....lots of probable doubt here so far.
Listening to this defense attorney is like listening to paint dry.
It's painful.
Omgosh you are not wrong. I almost don't want to continue to watch the trial and im only on day two 🤦♀️🥱
For real the opening statement was
Prosecutor- we will prove jessy is guilty
Defence -Here is a pic of a Hug Lynn gave jessy
I’m hollering. 😂😂
This guy. It’s AGONY
Our lovely judge has many admirers out here from a particular trial, for sure
She’s the worlds Sweetheart Judge💖 She should have her own show I reckon. But she probably doesn’t have the time💖💖
The diseased had Xanax and hydrocodone. If she wanted to commit suicide. Why would she use Visine????? She could have just overdosed on her meds. Go to sleep and juzt never wake up
Exactly !!! And the défendant actually google Visine poisoning from what I understand,… How she can wiggle out of that alone is a slam dunk I would think 🤷🏼♀️
Defenses opening statements said she had a lot of other medications in her system on top of the visine , that's the only thing keeping me unsure of unanimous guilty verdict
@@dylandgs Apparently they are older/unused medications (minus the Ativan which she took nightly))) I suspect this ‘so called friend/caregiver could have been slipping them to her that night/day,… The crushed uP staged crime scene is just weird ‘who does that 🥴
…And besides, if she really wanted to overdose=unalive herself, she would absolutely not require dosing with Visine,… and again who poisons themselves, when she could have just swallowed a bunch of pills with her Vodka 🤷🏼♀️
@@dylandgsnah. They can tell what she died from. Hate to say it but this woman was a thief and killed this woman by giving her visine.
@@dylandgsshe had Visine in her system not normal for oral administration
Man women are killing it!! Judge Dorrow, the prosecutor, the Medical examiner. Boss ladies doing big things. Love to see it!!! The medical examiner is SMART.
I recently watched the entire DB trial beginning to end. I tried watching a different trial after that, but attorneys on both sides and the judge were men. Found my way here instead!
The judge’s glasses look really cool reflecting the screen like that, casting a lavender hue.
My favorite judge!She is truly amazing. ❤
The picture of poop is evidence of what exactly?! Why is defense wasting so much of the jury’s time with this nonsense?!
It did not add anything at all....
@@divinemischief4655 it really is so cringe but I’m looking forward to watching them cross examine the M.E. She appeared to look right at them as she said they were irresponsible for the claims they made in opening.
@@pinkzorro Ohhh, I'm definitely going to check that out. I stopped watching for a bit, but I'm getting right back to it
That looked like a cigarette in the toilet to me, even more so when the State showed it during redirect.
And if it WAS poop, so what? Tomorrow morning are we all going to die from Visene poisoning? 😅😂
Love this kind of video with timeline. It’s easy to watch.
Defence are doing a good job in highlighting incompetence and the inadequate response in the initial stages of the investigation. It may appear to be a lengthy process but the skill is to engender doubts in the mindset of the jury.
I learned a new word today. Engender* Thanks friend! 👋🏽
The defense guy lawyer is painfully slow at talking and asks questions that seem to lead nowhere. What does it matter if the cigarette was lit on the correct end? He doesn’t seem to ask questions that lead to any type of defense. Also, why isn’t Jen Flowers on trial as well? She definitely is part of all this.
I've been known to stick the wrong end of a cigarette in my mouth (just today, actually) and even light the filter instead. Doubt that's evidence of much other than she didn't pay attention to what she was doing.
I love Judge Dorrow!
She did such an amazing job in the Darrell Brooks trial. I actually came across this case on a crime channel and noticed she was the Judge over this case. Which brought me here.
I really like the medical examiner! Very intelligent and kind lady.
Same !! Never have I ever seen such an impressive & thorough Doctor,… She’s the best part of this Trial so far, however I’m not looking forward to watching Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumbs cross 🥱
@@lolabear3230 Like what….
@@lolabear3230 Like what? She followed protocol within her job.
Grounds?
😄
😂😂😂
I see what you did there 🤣🤣🤣
How are they able to disclose so much of this woman's personal medical history ? Does all the privacy go away when you die?
"Can you tell if the cigarette was lit from the correct end?"
Like.... who gives a crap? This would irritate me as a juror.
These lawyers seem very unorganized. I’m glad I’m not one of the jurors!
I’ve attended accidental overdoses and most times it was syringes and such around, but there were plenty of times too that the decedent would be lying on their backs with a plate of crushed drugs on it, presumably from when they were using and laid back and overdosed and passed away without ever putting the drugs away that made them OD to begin with
Dr Linda Biedrzycki is a great witness, very intelligent, and most importantly honest. A huge difference with the "Detective" before her.
Judge Dorow, apart from being beautiful she is a very good judge. I’ve seen her in past trials and am very impressed with her.
Yes I think everyone here has seen her in a particular "past" trial. This case is not widely known so most are here for Judge Dorrow
@autumnrene807 what was the other trial she is known for?
@@ukguyDarrell Brooks Christmas parade murders.
@@debschwartz7555 ah OK thank you
@@ukguy😂😂😂the best trial you'll ever watch
Did the defense team emerge directly from the crypt into the courtroom or what?!?! 🙄🤦🏼♀️
They are aged, for sure, but very capable.
@@karimahoney5708 I’m pretty aged myself. I am an absolute vibrant, vigorous genius prone to outbursts of mental gymnastics compared to these two…interesting take you have. Must think Biden is at the top of his game too.
@@thehaglin😂😂 ..... agree
@@karimahoney5708Exactly how do you know that?
😂😂😂 good one
28:28 drink whenever the defense attorney asks “crackt?”
Took me a minute to figure this out 😂
Lol read my mind
Hi ,Judge Dorrow 😊 You are totally Awesome!
Detective Timothy Loberg really scares me. He says that he sees what he wants to see in the scene. If he thinks it's suicide, he sees suicide. After they tell him it's not suicide, he says it's not suicide.
So why is he a detective.
The defence attorney needs to watch Georgia in the Dan Markel trial She asks pertinent Qs finishes with a stinging remark and sits down No further questions your honour
Very beautiful Judge.....just had to say that.
This male DA is pulling questions out of the air. His questions are non related to the duties of the witness ie photo evidence.
Reminds me of Darrell Brooks questioning! 😂😂
The district attorney’s on the Darrell Brooks case were absolutely masterful in presenting the states case!
Correct? Correct.
All of these attorneys are so not organized,the ones on Darrel brooks trial were spot on
Who’s here for judge dorow?!!🤩 I want to be her!❤️
Same here!
This has got to be the slowest starting trial ever.......Why does it take the defense so long to go through questioning
Because they’re dinosaurs. Do you not see that🤦🏼♀️
well, how would you do it, expert? give it time, it's not even their case yet, they're being thorough. such a cringe comment
Bc his mouth is so dry he can barely speak 😅😅
It’s like they are thinking up the questions as they go
If I were Jessy, I would fire my defense team and just represent myself. She couldn't possibly do any worse than they are doing.
I'm surprised she didn't. She loves to talk
After listening to her medical report from the medical examiner, it does appear she was in massive distress of her illness. In additional many docotors dropped her as their patient.... Really bad medical staff not addressing her illness and her mental health.... This could have lead her to feel hopeless and did in fact lead her too suicide herself...Jessy did take advantage by stealing from Lynn but from this report from the medical examinier it seems more and more like suicide... Maybe the family should sue the medical proffessional who took part in dropping her as a patient and left her feeling helpless an in pain... This is a very sad case and it seems they are trying to blame the wrong person to why she actually died in the manner she did...
With the drugs she was on and mixing there’s a real possibility she accidentally overdosed. Mixing Xanax with all those muscle relaxers, pain pills, sleeping pills etc that is an OD waiting to happen. I’ve been to many scenes of ppl who have accidentally overdosed and on purpose. I’ve seen someone who’s OD’d laying on their back with a plate of crushed drug’s laying on their stomach, presumably from using the drugs and laying back as you start to lose consciousness and overdose.
I can see a lot of reasonable doubt.. although it’s strange that Jesse used visine herself in the past and did not tell the detectives this .. also in her interrogation she lied a lot .. especially about the use of the visine.. however … this could have been a stress induced confession or something like that … I don’t know if I myself would feel comfortable finding her guilty in this case .. I won’t be surprised if she gets off
Jesse knew what she was doing. That’s all wanted. Reasonable doubt. Listen to the prosecutor
This male defense attorney is horrible
I'm just now watching this day 2 video for the first time. Is this defense attorney just winging it or is there a purpose to asking the officer how many other deceased bodies have had dog tags around their necks? And, why does he keep asking if the photos he's showing the officer were actually taken by the officer? This attorney sounds like he himself is viewing these photos for the first time. This guy doesn't seem to have any direction. I don't understand the reasoning behind most of his questioning.
I’m sitting and listening to the Medical Examiner’s CV and thinking that Jessy, in her ignorance, would be able to disguise the cause of death to this woman!
I wonder if Judge Dorow is going to ask the prosecutor to not use the phrase "is it fair to say"? Have to wonder if the victim was being poisoned over a period of time. She had abdominal pain which was unexplained and then she was complaining her soup gave her mouth sores so she quit eating soup.
That’s biast. But while we’re here can we discuss subject matter jurisdiction?
@@Scrapfan I'll see if Darrell is available for a chat.😉
@@BjBeam oh no, but thank you anyway!! I’m sure he’s busy writing some Rap music or preparing for his next trial. 🤣
@@Scrapfan😂
Yup 👍
Judge Dorrow must be dying with defense lawyer questions, Oh😢! My God!
LOVE JUDGE JEN🌹
I love her as Judge she amazing
I am here as a 3rd Party intervener....
😂😂😂
Groundz?
@@kristajohnson9243 ya honah..suBstain!
LOL!!!
Under cohorsion and durest
Judge Dorow, is the reason I am watching this trial. I thinkshe is amazing, but I have to admit, I am alittle worried about a convicton in this trial
Where did the tetryzoline come from? Why would someone drink eye drops to commit suicide especially when there was other RX’s she could OD on. Doesn’t make sense.
Someone thought eye drops would be untraceable.
She'll be guilty. If it was suicide the 6 empty visine bottles would have been somewhere in the house and the crushed pills were staged.
@@Scrapfanagree 💯!!
@@Scrapfanyep exactly I totally agree with you.
prosecution is far from prooving beyond a reasonable doubt @@Scrapfan
Wouldn't you have your questions ready he waste so much time all this guy done was take photos why keep asking have m to read all this stuff and she keeps writing and talking people like her make my blood boil 😤
Make a video for each of your closest family and friends ❤
Side note, who is the blonde woman in background behind defense who is crying? I keep seeing it and I don't understand who that could be when this isn't very emotional content being discussed.
The defense attorney guy is soo painful to watch going through each and every piece of evidence and items. Geeze
Very accomplished physician
The dude defense attorney’s gum is super annoying.
Judge Dorrow ran for WI supreme court. Sad she didnt win. Such a wonderful judge.
The defense must think the more questions you ask the more competent you are. Wrong! Not when they're ridiculous questions! Does the man really have to identity the poop in the toilet?
🤣
So how many times is the defense attorney going to ask about documents whatva waste
The defense attorney reminds me of the turtle on bugs bunny 😅
Judge Dorow reminds me of Monica Lewinsky.
Just the looks I hope
Defense attorneys, Oh! My God😮 Really! Horrible defense 😢
Random question, but why do we still need court reporters when court can just be recorded in real time and saved just like a copy of what the court reporter would be making but video? Seems like an outdated technology but I don’t have any Court experience so maybe there is a need for it that I don’t know 🤔
@asyablake Sometimes they get asked to read something back. Maybe that’s one reason?
Dont worry! Poor lady hast cut and pasted "-Correct?" "Correct." 3,000 times.
The official record for appellate purposes is the official written transcript. Video of proceedings are not part,of the official court record and is not relied on for any purpose. So court reporter is key to the legality of the proceedings.
The Defense attorney didn’t remember something received the day before? I’m going back to watch previous days to when I started watching it live. I’m sorry but these crushed medications are stage; if you’re going to overdose if you crush them you get nauseous unless you’re doing with a syringe.
Why did he make us sit through every single photo? What was his purpose?
Time Stamps: (Editing while I watch)
0:32 - Judge addresses “housekeeping” items from day 1. Judge Dorrow overruled most of the prosecution’s, but she did sustain the objection to not have medical records live-streamed. Judge also asked the parties to not use speaking objections.
6:57 - Prosecution addresses/clarify some of the judge’s ruling.
9:55 - Judge asks for the jury to be brought to the courtroom.
12:27 - Prosecution calls Detective Loberg.
26:31 - Defense cross examination of Detective Loberg.
33:08 - Defense struggling with electronics.
35:19 - Defense doesn’t know how to show exhibits OR when exhibits have been received…
hello my fellow court trial followers.... can you please fill me in? 1. is the DA publically appointed?
2. Is the defendant out on bail? Thank you
When I googled the defence attorneys, theyre from a private firm as far as i can tell. Unless theyre doing this pro bono. I believe she is also being held in custody.
she is being held on $1mil bond
@red___shoes I don't know how it is in WI, but in VA, all private criminal law firms are required to do so many PD cases a year. Not every jurisdiction has a PDs office here, so the Judge has to appoint attorneys from private criminal firms to represent the defendant.
What does it mean to "publish the information?"
It means that the rest of the courtroom and the jury can see the document instead of just the parties and the witness.
I like these district attorneys a lot better than the ones from the Darrel Brooks trial. This one seems to be a lot more put together than Brooks trial.
the prosecutors from Brooks trial may have seemed a bit disorganized because they changed their case at the last minute when Brooks when Pro Se. That was just a few days before trial. The prosecution slimmed down their case. They did a good job considering.
@@Kay__Teethey definitely did a good job considering what they had to deal with 🤦♀️
Wow incredible shambles to this police service. Totally incompetent in there with presumption of a suicide
They didn’t even test the crushed drugs found on her 🙄🙄
But it was eventually found out or her boyfriend Would ve been next 😅
As far as I'm hearing, and like I said before. There's something wrong with this investigation, some incompetence is clearly shown, and hearing the detective saying that he barely looked at the crime scene, I'm sure he took as a junkie overdose case and didn't think that it was gonna go that far.
Defense is totally chaos ! Don’t even know how to use a computer, or what exhibits have been received 🙄and the judge has far too much to say 🤷♀️
Agree with your comments on defense. But I love Judge she’s amazing I wish I could be as great as she is 🤩
She killed/.murdered a “best” friend. What for seriously, money that will be gone soon. Unbelievable narcissistic woman. Unbelievable
Its strange how the rest of her house is so neat and clean, but the area where she was sitting was so bad??
The defense is already getting on my nerves
I think they are just getting warmed up cause they are doing better this evening
The LE determined it was a suicide, so no extra search or retreival of evidence commenced? Isnt the Medical Examiner the one who determines cause of death? Am i wrong?
I was disappointed with police evidence from the scene. Looks like the assumed suicide. Then everything else was overlooked.
Because when she called 911 she reported an apparent suicide by prescription drugs so when the police came and interviewed her they investigated what they had leads too....the medical examiners office determines cause nd manner of death from the test done at there offices ....
Obviously Jesse is guilty but I can't be the only one watching that thinks her lawyers are absolutely horrible! I am very surprised that the state's lawyers don't object to asked and answered multiple times, they keep asking the same question just in different ways and the things that they are pointing out or asking are not helping her case in any way, if she actually paid for these lawyers that is insane!
Yet another instance of utterly incompetent defence....omg.....pathetic
lol airmchair bundits like you really show your amateur skills. it's only day 2 of the trial, chill and let it play out. I'd rather have them defend me than some random know-it-all on YT
There doing not a bad job showing how incompetent the police were in investigating the scene
@@CrakeWasRight haha, you funny.....silly little goose. Bless you.
That lawyer is painful to watch. I don’t think he’s on the ball. He knows she’s guilty and doesn’t care
These defense attorneys are horrible. Especially that woman, her antagonistic attitude toward the med examiner is horrible
you must be new to this
Vodka, pain killers and benzos is a lethal combo regardless
What was in the toxicology report tho?
The male defense atty is beyond irritating. He's slow as a sloth, keeps smacking his lips, and his voice, OMFG.
Omg the dry cotton mouth lip smacking is like nails on a chalkboard 😬😬😬. Someone give him some water or gum or something !!!😂😂😂
@@summerdrye4030 I had to fast fwd to get past him lol. I couldn't take it anymore!
1:18:16 “crackt” is his version of DB’s “groundz”
Another point about the Detective. He is obviously lying. I am a private tutor, i teach programming. I have had thousands of lessons. I cannot remember all of the, but ask me to remember the last one, i'll be able to. So this "I have had hundreds suicide investigations, they are so frequent, but i don't remember the last one" is a clear lie.
Her lawyer asked some unnecessary questions wasting time 🙄i like the young female lawyer very professional and confident
I don't think he was wasting time at all, he seemed to be demonstration that the defendant was already written in the decedants will and would already be entitled to her estate. She was also on palliative care which meant she was dying. This seems to rule out the prosecutions claim that Jessy murdered Lynn for financial gain when she would be getting it anyway soon. If there is no motive it will be more difficult for them to find her guilty.
Does anyone else notice that this defendant similar mannerisms and facial movements as Zachariah Anderson from WI vs Anderson?
I wonder how long she was being poisoned....
The male defense attorney is the equivalent to watching paint dry. 🫠
The defence are computer illiterate. They both need glasses too. Disgraceful
ill-prepared dinosaurs 🦕
It's all right; I noticed the defendant helping them out at one point 😅
And a glass of water 😂
Reason for the "substsain"
The defence 😅
Omgosh I am about to fall asleep. It would be so much faster if they show the physical papers/documents etc instead of using computers. I get that times are so different now but still. Also this lady's defense is super weak👎, that can either be a good thing or a bad thing. But I've only started watching this trial yesterday so its gonna take me a long while to get caught up.
I really don’t like these attorneys. On either side.