Nice review...for me personally having some S5 org and P6K org I would tend to buy S5iiX and pair it with a video assist 12 G to get Braw. For sure for format option with the new Blackmagic. Kind of hoping that Pana will pull out a new top tear camera. Anyway happy new year
I slightly preferred the colors of the Komodo; the reds were a little richer, and the blacks were a touch more neutral. But we're talking maybe a 5%-10% difference in IQ, for a camera that's 4x as expensive. The Blackmagic cameras have always been an insane value for your money.
Hey Paule, a small sidekick if you don't mind. If you export or deliver video, do you always use the 2.4 gamma? I use mac osx and like others have the challenge of having footage look good on all media. (thank you apple)
Not sure you did the latitude test correctly. What ISO did you use for overexposure? How did you grade it? Color management or lut? Highlight recovery? tons of questions since I get the most latitude out of this camera than any other camera I've tested Edit** I read some of your comments and see that you used ISO 400. I would redo the test using ISO 800 for the overexposure. Remember, there's no such thing as native ISO when shooting raw plus you get better highlight sensitivity with higher ISO values. Not sure how you graded it but highlight recovery would absolutely do wonders, which would entail capturing at 800, lowering in post to 100 and clicking highlight recovery (this is what BMD suggests and it works very well)
Thanks for your feedback. So I conduct these tests as CVP or others doing it. For the stake of best comparability always the native ISO is used. Sure you could get more Highlight information with a higher ISO but what’s the comparison then to other cameras.
@@pauleporterdp ok. My point is that native ISO is a mistake when shooting raw, as it gives the camera at 800 an advantage of 1 stop in the highlights due to the shift in middle gray. Also, there is no such thing as native ISO when shooting raw. Blackmagic Design has made a mistake and a disservice to their customer base by not clarifying that native ISO only means something in lesser codecs, like ProRes, when the image is backed in. I would encourage you to retest the overexposure with both at the same ISO and you'll see a great difference. That being said, I really enjoy your video and your channel. Cheers
@@cruisechill1813 No, I'm not saying that. Some cases 400 would be better, but if you have harsh light, high contrast environments, then 800 would be better. What I would say is to not be married to the idea of 400 for all cases, as some people on youtube believe.
*@**4:44**: What you're really demonstrating is not a difference between cameras, or sensors, rather, a difference between BRAW and RedCodeRaw codecs. The BRAW is a 12 Bit colour precision, while the Komodo is shooting with a 16 Bit RAW codec with a much greater colour depth and image precision, which the human eye can plainly see.*
In this specific video I didn’t use any ND filter and adjusted the shutter in order to avoid any colour cast coming from the filter. Otherwise I’m using those nd filter: czcams.com/video/pO7wV2jzIn0/video.htmlsi=czuBU6CKjTzAN8Wi
Thanks mate. I have shot on the FX3 and a7iv for a project. I think the overall image of Sony looks very digital to me whereas the Blackmagic has a very organic look. Also the lack of Shutter angle and other features that I find inherent to cinema cameras are not in the FX3 so hands down I would pick the Blackmagic
@@pauleporterdp 3200 isn’t a native iso, it’s just a recommended iso linked to the distribution of stops above and below middle grey - it says as much in their documentation. Native iso’s (the base after analogue conversion without digital gain) for the camera are 100 and 1250. Recommended iso’s are 400 and 3200.
For the latitude test what iso did you shoot at and did you use highlight recovery. Thanks for the review.
Hello, 👋🏻 thanks for watching.
I used the native ISO 400 and checked in post if highlight recovery did anything but it didn’t in this case
The price, quality and color reproduction are all on the level, I even dreamed about this camera once
Very well said😊 thanks for watching
Difference in images is not worth 10 times the price. Bottom line the 6K is amazing
Absolutely the images are superb 👌
Nice review...for me personally having some S5 org and P6K org I would tend to buy S5iiX and pair it with a video assist 12 G to get Braw.
For sure for format option with the new Blackmagic.
Kind of hoping that Pana will pull out a new top tear camera.
Anyway happy new year
Thanks mate ☺️ I agree I’m looking forward to a new S1 ☺️
I slightly preferred the colors of the Komodo; the reds were a little richer, and the blacks were a touch more neutral. But we're talking maybe a 5%-10% difference in IQ, for a camera that's 4x as expensive. The Blackmagic cameras have always been an insane value for your money.
Thank you for watching and true this camera is fantastic
Hey Paule, a small sidekick if you don't mind. If you export or deliver video, do you always use the 2.4 gamma? I use mac osx and like others have the challenge of having footage look good on all media. (thank you apple)
Hello, yes I use gamma 2.4 and haven’t had any issues
@@pauleporterdp thanks! On a Mac platform?
Yes exactly
If Camera 12:1 open gate can we shoot then Normal 3060ti Graphic card system can handle the Footage ?
I advise to rent and test it. Or better you can download footage from Blackmagics website and see how it works
Fantastic images. Thanks for this review and the 7 film is awesome
Thank you I’m really glad that you like it :)
Would have 100% picked one up, but lack of internal ND is a no no for me
Thanks for watching :)
Not sure you did the latitude test correctly. What ISO did you use for overexposure? How did you grade it? Color management or lut? Highlight recovery? tons of questions since I get the most latitude out of this camera than any other camera I've tested
Edit** I read some of your comments and see that you used ISO 400. I would redo the test using ISO 800 for the overexposure. Remember, there's no such thing as native ISO when shooting raw plus you get better highlight sensitivity with higher ISO values. Not sure how you graded it but highlight recovery would absolutely do wonders, which would entail capturing at 800, lowering in post to 100 and clicking highlight recovery (this is what BMD suggests and it works very well)
Thanks for your feedback.
So I conduct these tests as CVP or others doing it. For the stake of best comparability always the native ISO is used.
Sure you could get more Highlight information with a higher ISO but what’s the comparison then to other cameras.
@@pauleporterdp ok. My point is that native ISO is a mistake when shooting raw, as it gives the camera at 800 an advantage of 1 stop in the highlights due to the shift in middle gray. Also, there is no such thing as native ISO when shooting raw. Blackmagic Design has made a mistake and a disservice to their customer base by not clarifying that native ISO only means something in lesser codecs, like ProRes, when the image is backed in. I would encourage you to retest the overexposure with both at the same ISO and you'll see a great difference. That being said, I really enjoy your video and your channel. Cheers
Thank you
@@leebrandt8597so are you saying you should aim to shoot at iso 800 in most cases?
@@cruisechill1813 No, I'm not saying that. Some cases 400 would be better, but if you have harsh light, high contrast environments, then 800 would be better. What I would say is to not be married to the idea of 400 for all cases, as some people on youtube believe.
I am finding some chromatic abbreviation in komodo and bit soft, it may be a lens issue than camera itself.
Thanks for watching :) Yes it is the lens
PAULE! I just got the canon focal reducer for my Komodo bec of you!
Thank you mate. Wish you Great shots with it
*@**4:44**: What you're really demonstrating is not a difference between cameras, or sensors, rather, a difference between BRAW and RedCodeRaw codecs. The BRAW is a 12 Bit colour precision, while the Komodo is shooting with a 16 Bit RAW codec with a much greater colour depth and image precision, which the human eye can plainly see.*
You are a miserable person😂
Yes the colour depth also plays a role
Which nd filter are you using for shooting 2.8 in bright sunlight?
In this specific video I didn’t use any ND filter and adjusted the shutter in order to avoid any colour cast coming from the filter.
Otherwise I’m using those nd filter: czcams.com/video/pO7wV2jzIn0/video.htmlsi=czuBU6CKjTzAN8Wi
@@pauleporterdp thanks. Does the 6ff use the same cf express type card as the komodo or is it different?
The Komodo has CFast Cards the BM uses cfexpress type b
@@pauleporterdp thanks. Do you think a 1tb one is best given the file sizes?
Depending on the compression ratio this is plenty.
My machine experiences severe green bands and horizontal streaks in low light, how can I fix them
Hello thank you for watching.
Which camera do you mean?
What ISO are you using?
@@pauleporterdp bmcc6kff 400-3200
@@pauleporterdp Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6k FF - Banding, FPN, horizontal Streak. sensor smearing issue
@@pauleporterdp I have also encountered this problem, I have contacted the official after-sales service and asked me to send it back for inspection
@@pauleporterdp czcams.com/video/gCKiU8TyR_I/video.html
Great video 🎉How would you compare the 6kff to Sony fx3 or a7iv image quality wise?
Thanks mate.
I have shot on the FX3 and a7iv for a project.
I think the overall image of Sony looks very digital to me whereas the Blackmagic has a very organic look.
Also the lack of Shutter angle and other features that I find inherent to cinema cameras are not in the FX3 so hands down I would pick the Blackmagic
@@pauleporterdpThank you. I am thinking now of switching slowly to used red og
@@pauleporterdp by the way, do you have any idea why the Sony image looks more digital?
Thanks, that’s due to the Sensor and internal image processing.
You’re Welcome
Second native iso is 1250
Nope it’s 3200 you can read that on BM‘s Website
@@pauleporterdp 3200 isn’t a native iso, it’s just a recommended iso linked to the distribution of stops above and below middle grey - it says as much in their documentation. Native iso’s (the base after analogue conversion without digital gain) for the camera are 100 and 1250. Recommended iso’s are 400 and 3200.
Why this camera doesn’t have ND anymore
I assume to get the cost down and is more difficult to put them into that shallow new Mount
6k pro has ND
True but only 6 Stops
The images look fantastic! I’m not even a fan or whatsoever…
Thanks for watching and your feedback 😊
I’m amazed BMD don’t have the vision to create what people want…..how out of touch with their customers can they be?!
Well many people where asking for a full frame camera with a new Mount and in this case BM delivered.
This comment didn’t age well😂