Alfetta GTV 2.0 Turbodelta: The First Turbo Alfa Romeo
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- By the late 1970s, turbocharging was the way of the future, while rallying had been steadily increasing in popularity among enthusiasts and manufacturers alike. These factors, among others, led #AlfaRomeo racing department #Autodelta to develop a rally program around a turbocharged derivative of the existing 2 liters #AlfettaGTV.
Sporting regulations stipulated a minimum production of 400 road cars for homologation in Group 4 and, to avoid disruption on Alfa's production lines, the cars left the Arese plant as "regular" GTVs, then transformed into Turbodeltas at Autodelta's facility, located 12 Km away in Settimo Milanese.
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My friend, I always look forward to your wonderful and informative videos. Please keep up the good work. The Alfetta has a place in my life and heart. As a teenager, i would visit car dealers and sit in these cars and dream of ownership. I have never owned one, but such is the nature of true love. It is a pity such a small number survive today. Alfa really succeeded many times with sexy styling, a special feeling of ownership, maybe one day I will find another Alfa love after the two Alfa love stories I have experienced so far.
Thank you very much for your appreciation and for sharing your feelings and memories about these cars. This kind of support makes me love what I do and rest assured I'm here for the long run :)
when i look at my blue gtv 2.0 L often a thought sneak into my mind: "what if i put a rainbow stripe..".
This car is a piece of pure alfa "vision", so damn seventies, wonderful at all.
Yes indeed. As I said in the video, this is one car I wanted badly after filming… Unfortunately the asking price is too steep for me, but whoever gets it, will have one of the best GTVs around
@@Matteo_Licata I have a '79 Alfetta GT (U.S. model), with SPICA converted to Webers, and a previous owner painted it red with a flat black hood. I'm going to keep the hood black as my own little tribute to the Turbodelta :)
Cool! 👍
Very charming small turbo car. Today it seems incredible anyone could like a decal like that....
What do you mean? But I can agree on the "very charming turbo car" 😳
I just discovered a new skill of mine. I discovered how fast i can click on a video :))
That turbo installation, artesanía pura... fantastic car and video 👍🏼
Another great video highlighting some rare Alfa’s 😍👌
What a timeless design the GTV is. It has no bad angle
Very true. One of many masterpieces by Giorgetto Giugiaro.
Fantastic - never even knew a Turbo existed!
Thank you! That’s what Roadster Life is all about: spreading knowledge :) 👍
Twin Dellorto with Turbocharger ...Alfa Romeo has Been There and Done it .....I Really Love These Classic Alfa Romeos....And TQ Very Much For This Video .....
Carlo K, Autodelta and lot of dream work, Alfisti myth and story material!
Now that's a beautiful way to close a week!
Thank you.
Glad you’ve enjoyed it so much, thank you!
The Turbodelta rainbow stripe is so 1980's that it's beautiful
True, I love that detail too!
I had the chance to buy an Alfetta GTV in red but needed some work and at the time my wages were not gonna keep the car o the road. Was a beautiful car !
I know the feeling, as I’d like to get a classic Alfa, but can’t yet afford it. I’m confident I will though :)
Back when they were sensible money, I had two Alfetta GTVs. Couldn't really afford to run them both but I acted on the advice of my father who told me to listen to my heart, not my head.
@@madgardener5820 Listen to your heart can cost a lot of money and heartache but it can be very rewarding !
Grazia mille. Never knew about this model.
Greetings from South Africa
I do like the GTV. Seeing the steering wheel and clocks in the video took me back to my younger days. I never owned one, but friends did. It is hard now (UK perspective) to describe the "otherness" of Alfa on the 1970s and 80s. They were rare. They were "other". They were not just Fiats with a funny nose.
I do like Italian cars and I know of Autodelta, but this model had passed me by completely. I was quite unaware there was such a thing.
And as for 150bhp.... That was pretty good back then. This was not a heavy car. The (relatively) low gearing is, as you say, not a bad thing. It gives very usable middle gears and still offers some pick-up in top. Maximum speed is somehow overrated.
Thanks for this video. More nostalgia..... Is it nostalgia if I didn't even know the model existed? Yes.... That dashboard is known to me. That makes it nostalgia.
My father owned for a very short time an Alfetta GTV Autodelta. It was very special as we're spanish and that car was UNIQUE in the country, no other known Autodelta was in Spain at the time. Unfortunately we couldn't keep it as it needed some fixing and the parts were uncommon and expensive. My father really regrets not having been able to keep the car, it really was a majestic sight.
Wow! That must have been truly exceptional in Spain at the time. What a great story you tell me, thank you for sharing it!
Interesting... and beautiful. And what's blowing my mind is that Autodelta was thinking about rallying at the same time they were investing hard in Formula 1 - 1979 was the year of it's return, after 38 years of absence. Too bad it wasn't sucessiful, the potencial for a good Group 4 car was there, even if thay wanted to go further to Group B. But... it didn't happen.
Yes indeed. It amazes me how many things Autodelta did, given the few resources it had. The GTV had the pace to be a successful rally car… At least at national or european level. The later Group B cars would have outgunned Autodelta by a long shot, however
Fascinating! I really like these history lessons! Thank you so much, ciao 🙋♂️
Glad you enjoyed it so much!!
I am impressed, my friend! Keep up with your great videos! 🍀❤️👌👌
Thank you! Your videos are cool too, can’t wait for your next upload!
In the US the company called Callaway, yeah the manufacturer of turbo Corvettes did a turbo version of the Alfa Romeo GTV and I believe it had a 2.5L V6 w/ fuel injection and an intercooler. Unknown fact about AutoDelta is in the early 80s they also tried to make a ceramic head for the diesel that was offered in the Alfetta model.
Yes I'm aware of the Callaway conversion for the GTV6, which was commissioned to him by Alfa's US branch, which feared competition from the Maserati Biturbo. Fascinating bit of Alfa history that one!
Everyday with a dose of Alfa is all I need❤️
A little bit of Alfa every day takes the doctor away… Wasn’t that what they say? ;)
What a cool car! Really love how the look of the rally versions, with their big wheel arches and wheels and aggresive intakes on the bonnet. Gorgeous!
Esos GTV Turbo de rally tenian un aire super agresivo que mola un montòn, estoy de acuerdo!
Alfa interiors were an absolute joy back then...
Great video, what an iconic car! BTW I wouldn't mind a video about the beautiful Iveco Eurostar in the background (ex Ferrari F1 team?)
I don’t think the Scuderia del Portello bought it from Ferrari… But it would be cool if it did :)
Unfortunately, I’m no expert about trucks, so I don’t think I’ll ever make an Iveco video 😊
What a piece! I wish such cars were made nowadays!
A fascinating video of one of the most amazing GTV's ever made!! I wish I had the money to purchase this beauty!! Great Video as always Matteo. We are 200 metres from the G7 Conference in Carbis Bay, Cornwall, UK. Here's to a better future!!
Far ahead for its time !!!! only from Italian hands !!!!
Bravo again, Matteo!
A great video, of a great car.
The paint on the hood got me thinking about the SR-71 Blackbird.
An Alfa for men with high level of testosterone
The fact the cards left the factory "stock" and were modified down the road at Autodelta is one thing. There were also cars that left the factory stock, made it to Australia (RHD, which further complicated fitting the "kit") and then had the Autodelta supplied parts retrofitted by either Alfa Rome Australia or the Alfa dealer... These had a few regional variations to spec (like the brakes and wheels used....). And included some alfetta sedans. I've always been curious which if any of these contributed to the homologation numbers, and also whether anyone really kept track of the number of Alfettas that went straight from factory to Autodelta to be converted as opposed to the number of conversions shipped (installed in car or not) by Autodelta...
I'm told 200 cars went straight to Autodelta, while the other 200 needed for homologation were transformed using the kits you mentioned. But there's no supporting evidence, so take it with one or two grains of salt!
@@Matteo_Licata thanks for the info. So if 200 were "needed" beyond the Autodelta built cars, and my 2 counted (a John French Turbodelta and a sedan version, both "kits" actually fitted to cars in 1981 in Australia) it was an interesting "strategy" to reduce homologation costs. Especially as I doubt all 200 were ever fitted.
Another beautiful Alfa. 150hp was a good output from a 2 litre engine back in the seventies. Combined with a fairly light weight (1100kg according to Wikipedia) it must have been a quick car. My only sadness is I suspect I can’t afford this rare turbocharged beauty either! Grazie mille Matteo.
It was indeed a fast car in period. I wish I could afford it too, it would already be mine! Of the six cars I filmed at the Portello Factory, this is the one I’d love most to have :)
Another well presented video, you're certainly nicely adding to the library of Alfa Romeo material.
Glad you liked it! Thank you very much!
Lovely - just look at those turbine-style alloy wheels!
That design came out with the Montreal in ‘71 and soon became a staple of Alfa Romeos in the 70s. Manufactured in different sizes, they could be had as an option on Spiders, Alfettas, Giuliettas…
Gr.4 & Gr.2 rally cars covered extensively in my Alfetta Turbodelta Gr.4 & Gr. 2 book
Hey, that’s great to know. I’ll look for a copy to purchase then!
www.automotobookshop.com.au/search.php?search_query=Alfetta+Turbodelta§ion=product
Wonderful video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!!!
...and a tape deck to shot AC/DC into the ears during the last chrono special ;D
Ohhh Yeah! That'd be great!
Una vera chicca! Ci sarebbe stata bene anche una prova su strada.
Purtroppo non é stato possibile organizzare una prova, non era parte degli accordi ed avrebbe richiesto il trasporto in una migliore location… Non ho voluto insistere, dato che giá il solo fatto di poter filmare una vettura cosí particolare é in sé un privilegio.
I like the groovy graphics, so disco. I wonder if Lancia has an issue with the Delta name. As always, another great episode!
It is an Autodelta turbo... Turbodelta... I don't think Lancia think they own the Greek alphabet, or all triangles... Note the Autodelta logo shape (on the guards) ....
Great Alfa!
Very true. This is one I wish I could buy there and then, on the spot!
You're a gentleman, I said
Well, thank you Pablo 😊
Nice car!!🏎💨🇮🇹💪🏼FORZA ALFA!!
It should be named Alfetta LGBT+
Condizioni eccellenti
Bella grintosa in nero
Pezzo raro ma non osannato da tutti perché all'epoca il progetto turbo era affascinante ma un po' "acerbo"
(lo dico sottovoce, mi piacerebbe avere una di queste primizie per apportare qualche modifica basata sull'esperienza di oggi: intercooler, turbocompressore, scarichi, ecc. naturalmente il più possibile celati alla vista)
Grazie del video
Grazie a te per il tuo interessante commento. Si, l'installazione ha un'aria "artigianale" che, se da un lato fa parte del fascino e della storia della vettura, dall'altra non fa pensare ad una grande affidabilità. Però è un pezzo di storia dell'Autodelta, quindi bene così, tanto questo non è il tipo di macchina su cui uno fa molta strada oggigiorno :)
Wonderful made videos...except for Italian cars do you do any other?
Like the best of the best looking cars of all time, the magnificent E9 csi?
Hi Yannis, thank you very much for your appreciation. If you dig into my archive, which now counts over 100 videos, you'll also find some French cars and the odd Swede. I mostly cover Italian cars because that's what I'm expert about, and people respond very well to them. However, I'll gladly cover a BMW E9 if I'll get the chance, as it indeed is a very beautiful model.
@@Matteo_Licata Thank you Matteo!
Bravo ottimo commento
Grazie mille! 👍
I prefer the Giulietta Turbo -:).
They are similar, but it must be said the Giulietta had been developed more thoroughly… I don’t know which one I’d get though
@@Matteo_Licata Indeed but the Giulietta is the one. To replace the middle air vent for a turbometer just is bonkers -:)
🍀TurboDelta🇮🇹
Ciao Mateo, talk to the guys from ISSIMI in the US, they are also Italians and import these car to the US, which is an insane market these days. You can sell it better there than in the EU.
I want 1% :)
@@Matteo_Licata you should man, you are doing a hell a job promoting these "forgotten" jewels. I will give you my 155TS to sell
Well, if you want to see it featured on Roadster Life, it’s doable, if you have enough quality footage of it ;)
Gorgeous car, but I don't think that decal is particularly garish for 1979!
The digital clock is placed where it would be invisible from the driver!
Of course! How Alfa is that?? 😂
Indeed: pure Alfa Romeo School of Random Ergonomics :)
Alfa Romeo Pride ,ha pure i colori dell'arcobaleno hahahhah
Just imagine what this car would be like with a 2L V6 turbo Busso
And the Callaway Biturbo? It's got two turbos and an intercooler.
That was done later, based on the GTV6 at the behest of Alfa’s north american branch
Were road-going versions of the 1.8-2-litre turbocharged Twin-Cam and early Twin Spark engines at their limit or was there room for more power to be reliably extracted and crack through the 200 hp barrier before non-stock modifications were required?
Honestly, I don't know
And it even has cutting edge LGBT-stripes! 😊
Autodelta saw the future, in every respect :)
check our gt 1.6 with 1.8 turbo swap : alfetta gt turbo time to reborn, youtube title
Thank you, I’ll look for it!
My dad has a alfetta gt
That’s cool! Which engine?
In tema di Alfa Romeo turbo, perché non fare anche un video sulla rarissima GTV6 Twin Turbo Callaway?
Mettere insieme la storia non sarebbe un problema, e l'idea è ottima :)
L'unico problema è il filmato: tutte le vetture costruite (poche, peraltro) sono negli USA, quindi mi è impossibile filmarne una!
@@Matteo_Licata credo ce ne sia una a Verona...
E per la verità ne sto cercando una da importare. Ma vivo in Finlandia al momento, quindi sarei comunque lontano!
I was working at my high school mate's Alfa Romeo dealership back then; one of the few built was sold to a wealthy engineer in my town.
I was shocked by the poor quality of the hand made mods made by Autodelta to the stock GTV to make it Turbodelta; a huge price increase to get a (fast, but questionably unreliable) car.
Seemed like made in the backyard by a carpenter.
Yes indeed. It really was a very much "handmade" conversion, but that adds to the charm nowadays, at least in my view.
For sale? How many lotteries i have to win? 🤔🤑💰
It's not cheap, but much less expensive than last week's Giulia Ti Super. I'm not going to give you a price here, as I have nothing to do with the sale. If you want to know, you can always e-mail the sellers, and see if it's in your budget or not. ;)
@@Matteo_Licata so 1 lottery wil be enough 😁🍀 but nice video again.
200kmh sono veramente pochi per essere un motore di grossa cilindrata turbo. Aveva i rapporti molto ravvicinati??
Tutto il cambio rimaneva quello della 2.0 aspirata, quindi si, erano un po’ corti per sfruttare tutta la coppia aggiuntiva
@@Matteo_Licata grazie dell'informazione
Matteo, you should be selling cars, not making Videos. If I had money, I would be cleaned out with beautiful Alfas.
Trust me, I love cars too much to earn a living selling them. This one then, if I had it, I’d never let it go, it’s a truly unique example, given its condition and originality
@@Matteo_Licata you have this way of describing them that makes me dream of having them - like a superb wine, Napoleon brandy, or film star quality woman.....
Yes, you generate lust for what you describe.
I don't think I'm the only one so heavily affected by your videos.
Autovox stereo 👍
So, if anyone has doubts this gorgeous, modern car was not made today, let's recapitulate:
1- It doesn't care for emissions;
2- It has a rainbow on it but has nothing to do with LGBT and has no clue what the Q+ is.....
3- The turbo is nameD KKK.... 😳
Turbo KKK, despite the fact that Alfa Romeo own his own turbo manufactury, called Avio
Well, the Alfa Romeo Avio turbine wasn't ready at the time. But was used in 1984-5 on the Giulietta Turbodelta... Proving less than reliable, so the AR Avio turbine was quietly dropped, never to be used again.
LGBT pride aware earlier than most ;)
stupenda, peccato sia in vendita, e' roba da museo di storia, non da garage di qualche ricco collezionista.
magari la compra il museo Alfa ,o comunque qualcuno che poi la fa vedere nelle mostre o raduni .
@@massimobernardo- eh, magari... non so come sia messo al momento il museo alfa, purtroppo non seguo piu' queste cose... e poi magari ne hanno gia' una.
finisse all'estero sarabbe un dispiacere, ma alla fine comandano i soldi.
@@larsen1974 se anche finisse all'estero ma viene esposta al pubblico è sempre meglio al chiuso di un garage in Italia . Il museo Alfa è stato rinnovato ed è bellissimo ,ci sono anche decine di auto non esposte al pubblico questo canale ha video interessanti proprio sul museo di Arese .
Eh, probabile che finisca all’estero. Ma dovunque sia, l’importante é che vada in buone mani, che pezzi del genere sono davvero rari, se non unici, visto che questa é davvero tutta originale. Avessi i soldi, l’avrei presa io lí per lí, tanto mi é piaciuta!
@@Matteo_Licata vero, fosse stata rossa col cofano nero pero' ci sarebbe stato da fare una colletta :-D
pero' e' perfetta, dopo tutti questi anni, e senza restauri che son sempre un terno al lotto...