Never pay for seltzer again! (Sodamod Sodastream tutorial)
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- čas přidán 27. 03. 2020
- In this video you'll learn how to modify your sodastream for cheaper operation.
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Why is the best paintball tank refilling tutorial in a video about seltzer water?
You could argue that this method is fairly unsafe though. You're supposed to tare a scale with the paintball tank and weigh the gas you're putting in. Probably not as worried about bursting a tank (other than filling) for soda as you do PB. I was here from cooking, but I have a kid whose pb bottles I fill.
@@scottleggejr One time, a welding shop refilled a 20 oz for me without weighing it. On the way home at the drive through, the rupture disk burst. My dog freaked out. Luckily my windows were open and he jumped out, but I had to chase and calm him down wait for the thing to finish emptying before I got back in the car.,
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Absolutely weigh the tank to know how much you are putting in. Speaking from experience working at one of those sporting goods stores.
Always periodically check pressure!
You should also make sure that the C02 that you are using is food grade. Some gases made for non-food use may contain lubricants or other impurities either not deemed harmful for the intended use or to ad some mechanical benefit like lubrication. I would be extremely careful using C02 from a sporting goods store unless I knew for sure the gas was classified for consumption. There is a reason why the same gas can be cheaper or more expensive and it's not always to brand markup - it costs more to produce a cleaner gas.
@Alex N Yea, that's a good idea. They should know how their gas is classified. I would also check out the cannister that you use for refilling - even the cannisters can be differently suitable to store food grade gases, or they may need some prep work to remove oils and stuff that was there from the cannisters previous use. A paintball cannister is definitely something I would be cautious about: I wouldn't be surprised if they come spiked with some oil or other lubricant to make the gun operate better.
@@johnekare8376 Superbly good information. My concern as well.
Very useful info. Thx for sharing! 😊😌
I'd go for a big CO2 bottle as sold for use with beer taps. Still a lot cheaper than refills on the small bottle.
@@BenJamin-en3jb That sounds like a much safer alternative, without the need of doing all the legwork yourself checking content and potential contaminants.
This video is a man slowly explaining his addiction lol. I appreciate the content my guy
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@@CynHicks this song is me at the bar lol if I could give you 2 up votes I would
Thank you for the much needed info. Your demonstration was great.
@Kory Bateson Pinecone!
Me too
Or you buy an Adapter to refill the sodastream bottle, no additional bottle needed. You could also connect the big tank directly to the Sodastream, also available on the market.
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there is a pressure problem
@@ugqdr7241 why?
@@ugqdr7241 put a pressure regulator in the line, problem solved
@@michiel20 I think a paintball tank is still cheaper, not sure
I never drink seltzer, i don't have a sodastream and i watched the entire video just because it is so well explained.
You should get a home CO2 tank or machine. It will literally prolong your life.
That's nuts.
Seltzer water is not made from co2 thanks. It's made from baking soda. Too much of seltzer is unhealthy. For some reason no one is mentioning this.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one in that specific boat!
Umm I was under the impression that CO2 from sporting good stores has impurities like oil for lubricant. brewer shops are a safer source IMO, it only cost $1 per oz at my local brewers store.
Yeah, it can and usually does. There's quite a few different ways they produce the liquid CO2. Some are food grade. Others are like eating a sandwich after changing your car's oil. Lol
First of all... Thank You, I really thought overseas in the us of a it's that expensive (30$ p. bottle as stated in the video) But he didn't mentioned deposit.
But for real...oil and other lubricants as impurities in a product meant for consumption?? That would be a catastrophe
Oh wait...that's exactly the case for supermarket medicine, in the us, right?
I have a story in mind about impure Insulin, and people dying because of it...
Why don't you just return the empty Sodastream cylinder to the store and pay like $15 for a new one?! That's exactly $1 per oz as well (at least that's the pice I found on the website of walmart and sodastream)....
Here in Germany the exchange cylinder only costs $0.5 per oz :P
Videos like this are what make CZcams (and the Internet in general) so great.
Helping each other to learn new stuff, save money, and better ourselves.
I know it's just a "soda video", but it's the essence of what humans like doing...helping and teaching each other new and useful stuff.
Upvoting this wasn't even a judgment call. It was obligatory.
I'm a little confused.
Why is your refill so expensive?
Here in Germany I can just change a empty sodastream co2 bottle to a new one for about 7€ at the local supermarket.
If you go to Aldi or Rewe, it's even cheaper, Aldi is below 6 Euros. Disadvantage though: they don't have the original Soda Stream gas bottles, and they do not take them back. I tried...
Even Soda Stream themselves do not take them back any more. You may get 4 Euros by goodwill, but that's it.
@@Engwatathraion its only the old system with the rounded co²-bottle-bottoms as they are no longer dealt due to EU generalization issues, in germany known aswell as DIN-norms. Thats why it doesent matter if you buy a sodastream bottle or not as the only difference is the plastic lable around the bottle.
the black netto - with the scotty - is selling the filled bottle in exchange for an empty one for 4.99€. if you pay more you pay that for that small plastic lable around the bottle.
Its 24€ for a new one... and to replace one its 14€ in Norway.
Mineral water is not so popular in the US, nor are soda streams, so they charge a wack for the CO2 canisters and they have a virtual monopoly on the canisters. Sort of like how internet service service in the US is crazy expensive too.
@@negueba235689 well, norway is also known for being very expensive ;)
Wait a second... youre supposed to Exchange used sodastream cannisters and get a new one for like 8-10$ not buy a new one every time
Exactly...
Yeah, this dude has spent a lot of money to to “save” money. Smh
15 bucks but good luck getting one at staples or any retail exchange. Do it by mail and you pay shipping on top
I went a similar route this last. Except I spent a little less on used equipment. Like a mini fridge and tap system. It will pay for itself. Especially in time. My reason was b/c we got tired of paying for hard seltzer. Plus people never consider there time.
@@Scidad23archery It costs 7,49€ here in Slovakia
Dude! Thank you so so much. You didn’t ramble on about any personal stuff or things you like to do he just went straight in and gave us a ton of really good information and I for one really appreciate it I’m gonna use this thank you!😃😃😃😃😃
I’m glad you liked it! On my channel I have another video of an even better solution I’ve found!
Agreed. Tutorials vlogs that ramble about irrelevant crap are annoying. I'm there to learn how to do something specific. I don't care that you kid spilled spaghetti sauce on your sweater and don't need a two minute diatribe on that.
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A couple notes:
Paintball gun / sporting good stores oftentimes don't sell food grade Co2.
Besides freezing the refill tank, you can purge the air a few seconds to freeze the tank before refilling it
Newer SodaStream stations do not support 20oz tanks.
Exactly. I hope people don't consume regular paintball Co2. I believe the paintball tanks can be cleaned and made safe for using food grade Co2. There is a video on CZcams of a demonstration by KegLand (Australia) using an adapter hose for the newer Sodastreams. I'm optimistic that it can be done, but only with food grade Co2.
My concerns were about this very point. I am not confident that this would be entirely pure or food grade Co2.
I worried about the food grade co2 and think that the brewing store would be food grade.
I use the BBB 20% off coupons for my canisters as this could be more work but I was eager to see how others are doing it.
I wonder if there is a way to bypass the canister transfer and connect the brewer canister direct to the soda stream.
I've read highly disputed claims about "food grade C02." You want a clean tank, no oils, but from what I gather, gas is gas. No such thing as food grade gas I am told. "Medical grade" gas, yes.
@@frankweir9514 Gas is gas, the purity lies in it being only the gas advertised. It's not uncommon for slight mixtures of gasses, and contaminants on the inside of tanks that aren't explicitly for food purposes to build up. Food grade isn't a magical kind of Co2 but more about those factors.
This is by far the most useful video I've seen in all of 2021.
But they’re only $15 when u trade them in. U only pay $30 once.
Where is the best place for this?
@@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 i go to staples have them in nyc area, but recently of pandemic 2 store that i usually go to say we ran out
@@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 Bevmo has them
Damn in belgium they're €12.99 and you get 12 euro back for returning them. So the gas is 99 cents
Now Target has them too.
I appreciate a well thought out video with clear instructions and good links. Thanks, you answered all my questions!
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Always open the valves slowly. Liquid CO2 will turn to dry ice if there is no pressure so make sure you pressurise the line before you start. It could block your line and you may think it's empty. Can be dangerous. Also, I would not freeze the cylinder first because you shouldn't overfill the cylinder. There needs to be some space left in the cylinder so the gas has safe room to expand which it will do, especially in a warmer climate. Good tip, but just be careful
So you’re looking at about $224 plus tax. And another $20 to fill the co2 tank at your local refill location. So $244 total
here in germany, exchanging the soda stream gas bottle on a local super market costs 5 bucks. U dont need to get another 30€ bottle everytime. Just exchange them at ur local supermarket
It's $15 in the U.S. I didn't make it all the way through the video but yeah the whole thing is predicated on a false assumption that you have to buy a new cartridge each time!
Where I am in Australia it's $60 for a new bottle and $25 to exchange your empty one for a full one so it is actually quote expensive for us still
in most stores here in germany it's between 6,99€ and 8,99€, Ive seen 5,99€ very rarely. So exchanging is more precisely between ~$7-$10,50. For 5,99€ you're guaranteed to get a NoName-Bottle and for 8,99 mostly sodastream ones, but no difference there. So much for the "proprietary"-Part in the video.
It's way less popular in the USA, and there's not really any competing products in wide use. so I'm sure that's why they charge a premium here in the usa
@@jamfx7942 jeez thats expensiv
Get a big tank and hose to attach for a years supply of co2 for thirty bucks and skip all the transfer
I am making an update video doing just that!
@@courcreate Really looking forward to that!!!! I want to set one up in my garage.
Problem with that could be that the internals of the SodaStream can´t handle the pressure of a bigger tank. Many of the components are made of plastics.
BTW they are really milking the US, here in EU the original tanks come in at 5-6 bucks, if you trade in the old one of course. And even Aldi started offering them.
@@sullivanmkii that's why you'd use a pressure regulator.
@@soundspark it's the function of vapor pressure, not size.
Next step is to secure the supply chain and buy a LNG Tanker.
I feel like at this point, it might make more sense to install a sparkling water tap system.
I followed pretty much his program and I refill a 5lb bottle from a local welding shop for 12.99 about every 3 to 4 months. I bought a countertop ice machine for ice. Now have the best, coldest sparkling water anywhere and very inexpensive. As an aside, I bought a RO Water treatment system for all my drinking and cooking water (and ice) No more hauling water from store or ice.
Many of my colleagues at work love soft drinks. And I particularly like to make low-calorie sodas. So we considered it important to have a good method for making carbonated water. We used to use paint-ball tanks with Soda Stream, which we would take to a local CO2 supplier, who would fill them for $7.00. This was vastly better than paying for Soda Stream refills. But after a while, I decided that I would just connect a 5 pound tank directly to the Soda Stream. I also bought an electronic CO2 monitor for $103.00, so that I would know if any CO2 was leaking from my setup. The direct connection has worked out nicely, except that after a couple of years, I had to replace 2 Soda Streams. They are cheap plastic junk and they don't hold up under heavy use. So I gave up on Soda Stream and bought a Drink Mate. The Drink Mate is a higher quality device, and luckily it has the same threads as Soda Stream, so I can use the same CO2 connections that I was using with Soda Stream.
Drink Mate has been tested by consumer groups as being inferior
Would you still say Drink Mate is better then the Soda Stream?
@@Nobody487_ Yes. I have Drink Mate at work and Soda Stream at home, and I like the Drink Mate better. But the Soda Stream is not bad - as long as it doesn't break.
Do the fills really cost $30 over there? Here it's about that much for a new bottle, but only 10 for swapping an empty one with a full one.
Germany: 7,50 EUR including VAT.
@@AndreasDelleske going down to 5,50 depending on the store
You can get the cheap ones from Aldi for like 5 bucks in Germany.
Jep about 5-10 euros in germany to swap the bottle.. but yeah a single new bottle costs about 20-30euros here too 😁
@@chrisbarth8488 ya around the same here in canada about $5-$10 sometimes upwards of $15 it just depends on where you go really
Great video. I've been thinking about doing something like this, and now you just took all the guesswork out of it. Thanks!
Thank you very much for sharing all your research, and taking the time to make this video. I appreciate it.
CO2 refill for the normal soda stream cartridges costs 5 bucks in Germany 😅
off-brand
Same here in Sweden... its only 4-5 € for a refill.
Was about to say this ... even „not off brand“ is 7,99 but who am i paying for „branded“ co2 ?
I'm in the US and I pay $15 for their refill program
If Soda Stream keeps their inflated gas prices in the U.S., they will put themselves out of business OR create a market for a lower priced competitor. Even $15 is ridiculous! Their cost is probably under $1...
you're aware that sodastream offers exchanges for the tanks instead of buying a brand new one right? i think mine was like $5-$10 to exchange them and they give you a brand new tank in exchange for your current one, most london drugs or even walmart will exchange them for you
Yeah, this video surprised me as well. I don't pay $30 every time I need more co2. I exchange the bottle at an approved retailer and pay around $7 every time. But this guy essentially bought a new bottle every time? Maybe they don't have the exchange system in the US?
@@senchaholic they probably don't have that in the US, it seems. In germany I pay, depends on the store, 3-5€ (so around 4-6$) per exchange. always getting a new tank and sometimes even some syrup tests and I get along with one tank for about 2-3 months and at least a 100 liters. plus, as someone else said, there are different kind of C02 tanks, especially in terms of food grade. also I wouldn't want to get blown up by some stupid ass tank because its cheaper. I bought over all 2 tanks for around 55€ (63$) and have been exchanging them for over 10 years. perfectly happy with that.
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I love this bro, thanks sharing all the info. So much better and waaaaay cheaper in the long run over time doing it like this.
Starting a new business and was trying to figure out a cheaper way for getting seltzer water.... u my friend are a godsend!!! Great video!
🤔 where I live, refills are only 6$ with off brand options for 4$. You can get them at my local supermarket as well.
So I get why you need a cheaper option, sounds like you guys in the US are getting ripped off!
Where do you live
Same here in sweden, refills of the cans are only a few bucks
Just the refill (swap empty canister for a full one) is about 7$ here in Germany - no more carrying heavy crates or Sixpacks of Seltzer
Same for me in france, someting around 7$ for changing my old tank to a new one.
same in austria as in germany. just exchange the empty canister with a full one for 7€
At Bed bath and beyond you do buy the tank once, when you bring back the tank to get a new one they give you $15 credit on the tank you are returning, now the tank cost $15. Don't forget use your 20% off coupon, so it now costs $12. You're making things way more complicated than they have to be.
I agree.
Aren't they going bankrupt?
@@realhumanbean46 no, no, no. What you mean there going bankrupt????? 😆
I mean his method is still 3 time cheaper and some people don’t mind spending less then 5 mins every couple of weeks to save that much money.
Totally with you! Get this get that…do this do that….omg my brain is half fried already. 🤯
Informative and straight to the point. Thanks man!
Explained very well and made it all easy to understand and comprehend. Thanks.
Alternatively you can just get a big tank and a hose adapter straight into the SodaStream.
That’s what I was gonna say.
But if the device is not capable of handling the pressure it will blow the bottle up like a balloon and take your head off.
From the local welding supplier?
@@anomamos9095 When he filled the paintball tank with the big tank there wasn't any kind of gauge or valve in between, so the small tank should contain the same pressure. In conclusion it shouldn't matter feeding it in directly
@@TheGenuineRannix . It seems that the soda stream is able to cope with the pressure.
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Curb that addiction..
Refills are $13 at BB&B with 20% off coupon.
Mine just closed!!
We did too. Alas. BB&B is dead. :(
Great video. Love that you use the little cutting board so as not to scratch your countertop surface. :) Just exploring this concept. Thanks for the great info. Your video was so nice to watch and your presentation is thorough and informative!
But can you really scratch that?
Thanks, Alexander! I've liked, subscribed, and added this video to my SodaStream playlist!
In Germany, we have a "deposit" on these CO2 Cylinders. We get one for free at buying, and then everytime it gets empty, we go to a store and swap the empty bottle for a full bottle for 7.99€ (around 9,50$). The old, empty one gets filled and will be re-used.
It needs to be that cheap in germany bcause fizzy water in bottles is so cheap
Wait, how is this so cheap in Germany ? Last time I checked it was 12€ here in Belgium
@@Jim-hw4bx I dont know🤷🏼♂️
@@Jim-hw4bx could be competition as well, you can buy bottles from different brands that all fit the same machines
In Sweden its usually 2-3€. I was amazed by the price he pay.
There is an easier way. Straigth from the homebrew co2 tank to soda bottle. They sell adapters that fit say on a regular soda bottle.
Read my mind.
That’s why I made a video on my channel about my current setup! It’s exactly that!
Excellent step by step narrative. Thanks for the info.
Absolutely brilliant. Thank you.
Guy just went from buying a bottle to buying a co2 cartridge. To buying a larger co2 cartridge to buying a full rechargeable co2 cartridge. Next up he just going to buy a company that makes co2.
Nah, next step is buying an large outdoor tank, THEN buying a company that does CO2
@@MaxxJagX actually a good idea tbh have a big outdoor tank and just have it filled once every few months- year
that's the plan
Maybe I missed it but you need a co2 tank with a dip tube or you have to invert it. I just have a 20LB co2 tank under my cupboard hooked up to my soda stream with a $50 adapter/hose from amazon. years supply no refilling
do you got links to your system
@@NMPTV I use something like this www.amazon.ca/External-Adapter-Accessories-Compatible-SodaStream/dp/B07R3TP16D
As someone who enjoys soda but doesn't like to chug it, this video may help me in my quest for deciding when I'm ready for it to go flat
I don't have a soda stream and I'm no really a fan of seltzer yet this video makes me feel very euphoric. ☺️
They don't cost $30.00. In Canada they cost $35.00, but about $15.00 is the core charge for the bottle. The refill/exchange is about $20.00 or $16.00 in the states.
i lol'd so hard when you revealed the paintball tank. awesome!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for this video. I'm also slightly obsessed with sparkling water!
I just bought a kitchenaid soda stream with the intention of setting up a system like you have. After doing the math, I realize it's not going to save me all that much money right off the bat, however I do feel good about reducing the amount of waste I'm producing. Plus it'll be fun to be able to make my own!
As of this moment, it's $60 to buy two 60L CO2 bottles from sodastream, then $30 every time you exchange the pair.
Instead of doing all of this, they make a different adapter that allows you to fill up the little soda stream co2 tanks from the co2 tanks directly. That way you dont need to buy the paint ball tank/adapter.
Yup, I bought a hose set off Amazon for $30.00 and a CO2 tank that I had and I just swap the tanks out at AirLiquide for $35.00 and get about 5 months of heavy use out of each tank. I should keep track of how many liters one 10# tank fills the next time I do a swap.
@@buddhamack1491 when did they change it? I just made this same setup for a friend last month and his setup was the same as mine.
I'm gonna need more info..
Plus paint ball co2 is not food grab. Definitely some petroleum distillate in there lol
@@jusjames7858 Yup thats one of the dangers. there's some gasses in there that even at .1% it will make you feel dizzy and give you a nasty headache.
You really should be filling the tanks up with beverage grade co2, even food grade doesnt cut it.
You could also refill the tank with Dry ice, a simple scale, and a funnel. I have a small and large tank for my soda stream. When they are empty, I buy a bag of dry ice from publix(location may vary,) pulverize it to a near powder like consistency, and refill to the soda stream net weight. Do not overfill. reseal the container. it will ice up in the process and it will take a couple hours for the ice to go away, but when it is gone, it's ready to use. There are some videos around about the process. it seems a little intimidating, but it is super easy.
How do you pulverize the dry ice block?
@@deemelody2396 throw the ice in a strong bag and hit it with a hammer.
Thanks this helped me out a lot!
Thank you for this! It was so helpful!
The sodastream co2 is only $30 if you’re not exchanging the empty canister, which defeats the purpose of the exchange process. It should cost you appx $15 USA and appx £12 in UK.
You can skip the cost of the Soda Stream and paintball canister all together and just get a regulator and a ball lock adaptor that attaches to most common plastic bottles. Fill the bottle with water, attached to CO2 tank and add CO2 directly to water. Close tank and disconnect bottle and you are all set.
Great video, very informative - thank you!
You're awesome man! Thank you.
Might as well just get an adapter to connect the big tank to it. Mount the soda stream to the wall and run a co2 line through the wall to a cabinet where the big tank will stay hidden until you need to refill it.
Hell, he might as well build a kegerator and enjoy multiple beverages on tap...
I suppose in that scenario you need to use some kind of pressure regulator. I think the pressure directly coming out of the big bottle might be a little too much. But that's just a guess. I don't really know.
@Cthulhu well, he got that one for free so it doesn't really matter
@@foofourtyone He literally equalized the pressure in both tanks in the video, the only difference is volume between the two tanks.
You can exchange your empty Sodastream bottle in any supermarket in Germany for around 5 USD for a refilled Sodastream bottle. Still, I think your idea is great! Even if it doesn't pay off in my country... 👍🏻
Same in France. Not sure if it is only 5, i think around 10. It is only expensive the first time you buy the bottle.
Thank you so much for your explanation 🙂🙏🏼
Here in Germany we pay about 20€ for a New Bottle and the exchange Bottle will cost 5-8€ depening what Brand you want (can exchange in literally any Grocery Store)
Would there be a way to plumb a line directly in to the Sodastream straight from the larger brewery c02 tank? Effectively eliminating the paintball tank? This way it'd last forever and you wouldn't lose that little bit every time you refill. You could even have a hole in your countertop or cupboard above the Sodastream where you could hide the large tank. Thoughts?
yeah. You just hook the adapters he has in the video to a hose and run that to the large tank. The important thing is regulating the tank down to the standard pressure of a full soda stream. Also, you need to be able to transport and store the CO2 cylinder safely.
exactly.
As a german who grew up with sparkling water it's funny that sparkling (seltzer) water and soda stream is something special in the US. But that adapter stuff is really cool :D
And 1L of spakling water is like 0.13€ here, which compared to 12 bottles of topo chico for $10 is only 6% of the price.
Great work brother thank you for the heads up
Thank you. Excellent video, I was about to buy soda stream and bunch of cylinders.
I just had surgery and have been struggling to keep liquids down. To make up, I've been watching water and soda content. I typed soda into CZcams and your video came up
Thanks for the video. I also drink a lot of carbonated/sparkling water and also make my own club soda as well (16 ounces carbonated water, 1/8 tsp baking soda and a small pinch of salt mixed into water prior to carbonation).
I have been doing something similar to what you are doing for several years now to save money. I purchased a hose similar to yours on Amazon, but one without all of the extra valves, nor do I use the paintball tank. The hose that I use connects directly from my 5 gallon CO2 tank to the Soda Stream device.
The hose uses a US CGA-320 connector to fit it directly to the 5 gallon CO2 tank and the other side has the TR21-4 connector that screws directly into the soda stream cartridge socket.
I have two 5 gallon tanks and it costs me about $15 to fill them at either the local home brew supply store or at the local fire extinguisher shop that refills fire extinguishers.
One thing if your are doing this directly from 5 gallon tank to soda stream is that you need to close the tank's valve after each use so that you don't have any possible leakage from the 5 gallon tank.
That's what I do in my other video on my channel!
@@courcreate Thanks for the information. I did not see your other video, but will look for it.
BRO, FREAKIN TREMENDOUS.👍🏽👍🏽
Okay, I'm sold. Thank you.
Those soda stream water bottles have a little wavy line, the water should only be filled up to that line, so the plastic bottle has enough room for the gas to be absorbed into the water. You risk early wear on the waterbottles, if you overfill them.
Overfilling the water bottles risks spraying water all over when carbonating, it's not going to put any extra wear on the bottle. The bottles also have ridiculously short stamped dates on them. In 2021, I'm still using one bottle that was already expired the day I got my first "new old stock" Sodastream machine, with a stamped expiration date of 1/2015, and I have yet to see any signs of the bottle becoming weak.
@@mrh829 it is not visible to the plain eye, but there are microtears. The air thanks for scuba diving are not looking expired, either, and they need regular checking and replacing.
I use the "expired bottles" to Store the carbonated Water in and for the carbonation process, I have switched to the Glass bottles of soda Stream.
@@NickUncommon Does Sodastream make a 1L glass bottle? I've only seen the ~600mL ones, and those carafes don't just fit any Sodastream machine (they only fit the Penguin or Aqua Fizz).
To the comparison to SCUBA tanks, though, any cylinder that has the purpose of storing a pressurized gas certainly needs to be periodically re-tested and re-certified, no argument there. The pressure inside a Sodastream carbonator bottle will never get anywhere close to the pressures even inside the CO2 tank (800+ psi in the CO2 tank, but the carbonator bottle will never get any more than 15-20psi because of the relief valve in the machine itself). The worst-case scenario of an overused Sodastream bottle that fails would be for the bottle to crack and water gets spilled, making a mess to clean up; it's not an explosive gas like propane, or being used in a life-and-death application like SCUBA diving.
I'd definitely quit using any Sodastream bottle that showed any signs of stress. The printed expiration dates are just there as a CYA on the manufacturer's part to make sure that the bottle is "expired" long before the bottle could possibly be worn out from natural aging so they can't be held liable if someone continues using an expired bottle.
@@mrh829 the one liter glass bottle is for the DUO, only, but there you can use glass or plastic, and I like it for the "containment chamber"so if there is breakage, it is not flying everywhere :) kind of paranoid about gas breakage, having seen, what a broken oxygen valve did to my chemistry teachers neck. He survived, but it was gory.
@@NickUncommon It seems like Sodastream is determined to have certain machines only available in certain regions, as I never heard of the Duo before; it seems like it's only available in European countries, and it looks like they've changed the CO2 tank design to do a quick connect style thing, which I can only imagine could lead to it being potentially more difficult to connect the machine up to a bulk tank. The containment chamber aspect is certainly nice, though
For what it's worth, oxygen tanks are typically 2000psi at room temperature, which is well over double a CO2 tank, so yes, the tanks can definitely be deadly if the gas ever gets released in an unsafe manner (the episode of Myth Busters comes to mind when they chopped off the valve on a compressed air tank, and it shot through a cinder block wall and damaged another wall behind it), so I don't want to sound like I'm saying compressed gases can't be dangerous. I'm just pointing out that hundreds or thousands of PSI in a metal gas cylinder is very different from the ~15psi that goes into the carbonation bottle, that's all.
Does the Supply Tank shown in the video have and eductor / dip / siphon tube? If a supply tank does not have an eductor tube, then I will need to turn the supply tank upside down to fill my Sodastream canister, correct?
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Brilliant video. Really cool hack, thanks
Just modify the unit to accept a 40lb co2 tank by using a few fittings and adding a regulator. Fill the 40lb co2 tank once a year for less than $30
Shouldn't these be filled to a specific weight?
My old bottle show a tare weight (0.91kg) and a filled weight (1.18).
Love that whooooosh sound, always reminds me of the deloreon in back to the future part II
Great video!
Would you be able to refill the stock soda stream tank using the 5LB tank?
Excellent Tutorial...Thank you...
Those sodastream CO2 bottles cost like $6-$8 USD to exchange for a new one in Sweden.
same in Hungary. I dont even understand this video, are people in US just trash the bottle each time it is empty?
@@DanielBulyovcsity The price to exchange empty for full in the UK is £22.99, they have a monopoly so charge what they can get away with.
I pay around 6$ here in Germany. My yaw dropped when he said 30$ for one refill o.O
Yes I pay about 7-8 dollars in my local Coop or Ica store when I exchange my bottle, 30 dollars is insane. I got a extra one for about 22 dollars and it is so nice if you run out at the evening after the stores is closed
It's $15 USD for exchanging a CO2 bottle in the US. The video guy forgot to mention that.
That's a great idea to keep the cost down to my carbonated water addiction
You’re awesome! Thanks!
This is amazing. Thank!
How do u know the cleanliness quality of that cheaper co2 in comparison to brand quality made for drinking
You can use CO2 sources meant to be food-safe. Yes, there are such sources.
the co2 used is for kegerators, so it is for drinking
@@JD-ms5mp The one in the video, yes. But there is also industrial CO2, which is mixed with other gases, some of which might be toxic, or even lethal, in people's drinks.
is there a soda stream adapter that will fit on the refill station so you can just bypass the whole secondary refill option?
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@@BarryMcCawkiner Thanks shortly before your reply, I ended up finding something identical from aliexpress
Normally, a tank-swap of the sodastream tank is around $15 in the US. I bought a 20lb CO2 tank, and a sodastream adapter. To refill, I connect the sodastream to the adapter and then to the tank directly. That's it. All in, I paid $150 which included the first tank of CO2. I did that in July, and have just now emptied the tank, so I brought it to be refilled for another $25. I was going through 2 sodastream refills a month before - so that was costing me about $30/month - which is still cheaper than store brand canned club soda at the rate my family drinks it, but not by a lot. ...but now we're down to around $5/month. I will say though, it's probably worth investing in a siphon straw and a flexible hose. The way I've been refilling is a bit of a pain - I have to invert the 20 lb tank (which *holds* 20 pounds - and then the tank also weighs in at around 30 pounds), because I didn't realize I needed a siphon straw when I bought all this. I'll probably get a sip[hon straw and a flex hose for the next time.
Man I never thought of putting it in the freezer for an hour to match the temp in my big tank! Thanks for that advice! I actually have a 20 pound tank in my garage thats lasted me more than 17 refills by now. Saved me a lot of money in the end. I mean, when I first bought the tank and the attachments, it was like 180 dollars. I clearly got that money back and then some by now with how many refills I got. The guy at Airgas told me its gonna only cost $25 to refill my 20 pound tank too! The only downside to all of this is just the fact that if I ever wanna stop using this stuff, I cant just give them back the tank and get my money back. Once you purchase the tank, its yours for life, so you gotta probably sell it online or something if you ever want to get rid of it down the road.
Even cheaper is a co2 tank with a regulator and ball lock valve. Then the adapter to put on a soda bottle. Recharge ANY fluid, and you won't loose the gas right when you open the soda stream. Pressureise the bottle, shake shake shake (co2 is absorbed into the liquid), repeat as needed.
Aren’t you afraid the bottle you are carbonating will explode while you are carbonating it
@@meachdawg34 no, the bottles can hold alot of pressure, don't quot me, but I think I remember seeing over 100 PSI. I carbonate to around 50 PSI
You can also find a place that will just refill the soda stream bottles.
I take the valve off of the sodastream tank and fill it with the appropriate amount of dry ice. It's a hassle, but its way cheaper than a tank exchange.
I do the same.
Thank you sir learning a lot from your video
Seems like you'd want to gauge to measure the pressure in the small tank
You actually weigh in the charge with any gas refill .
Another option. The amount of CO2 by weight is on the front of the Sodastream tank. Get a scale and place that amount of dry ice on the scale. You have removed the top of the sodastream bottle. Place the dry ice in the bottle, put the top back on tightly, and give it 24 hours to get to room temperature. If you have multiple bottles, you can fill multiple tanks and you are good to go.
I use this methond as well but slightly differntly. I put the cylinder on the scale and tare it, then add dry ice until the scale reads 410-430g. Dry ice sublimates very quickly so doing it this way ensures you dont loose any during the filling process. I also place the freshly filled cylinders in a sink full of room temp water, this aids in the melting of the dry ice while also checking for leaks at the o-ring and relief valve.
Often when I go to get dry ice I get it for free if I bring my own cooler, but even when I pay for it it costs about $15 for enough dry ice to fill 6 cylinders with a bit left over to play with.
@@curtisjmurphy Agreed, but my scale cannot handle the additional weight of the bottle, and I consider the sublimation during the pouring of dry ice into the bottle to be an additional safety factor!!
@@SimonDavies1 If you measure, it is safe, provided you keep safety in all parts of the procedure in mind.
Fantastic video. Couple of questions. Like you, I love Topo Chico. How would you compare the flavors? Notice you give 4 squeezes. How does this compare to TC’s carbonation?
I’m obsessed with seltzer water and drink 2-3 leaders a day this is a helpful video!! Thank you!
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how did you get the oil out of the paintball tank? ~small amount of oil in tank for seal preservation of the gun~
He drank it
Ya... About that... Don't think he knows it's not beverage grade co2 🤔
@@jamesu571 probably not, and the paintball shops add few drops of oil to the tank when they refill 🤷🏻♂️
shouldnt he weight the tank before and after so he knows how much hes putting in
Exactly , he's asking for trouble (explosion) by not weighing it.
Both tanks are rated for the same pressure, but there is a better way to do this whole setup.
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@@courcreate You can still overfill a CO2 tank, which will result in a blown burst disk when the CO2 warms up. To fill CO2 tanks properly, you still need to use a scale to do it safely.
Well that was very informative indeed. I do use Sodastrem syrups, but for the non tipical flavors I can buy the squeeze bottles (like Mio, Kool Aid, etc.) for even more interesting flavors or to make clear flavored seltzer water.
The great thing is his set up looks really nice in the kitchen
REfill in Sweden at dollarstore is like 4usd
In Germany too
You Just Chance the empty one to a full one at the grocery store for Like 6 bucks
Is there food grade and non-food grade CO2? I'm not sure using paintball stuff is okay?
That is exactly what I immediately thought about! There are different grades of CO2 gases. There is a grade for medical, food, research, recreational, etc. Recreational has the worst grade, which means is the least pure and contains other gases like ammonia, benzene, etc. YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE DRINKING OR INHALING THAT. Those large CO2 tanks are cheap for a reason. Remember: Do not repurpose CO2 gas tanks from other categories! YOU MUST USE FOOD-GRADE CO2. It is 99.9% PURE!
@@waltermackay Yes! Buying the tanks at $30 is still half price of buying Bubbly or LaCroix in cans, so I think I’ll stick with that. (Getting the CO2 canisters refilled is even more savings.)
Great video. I like it. Thank you.
Great video. Can this method work on a AARKE carbonator? If so any advise would be appreciated.
The next step up would be to get stuff to compress your own CO2, which would only cost gas/electricity to run the compressor.
C02 compresses on its own. Dry ice is CO2 below minus 100f. At -100 it start to melt to a gas. Just warming it in a sealed container wi pressurize it and force it to condense into a liquid.
If you put 400 grams of dry ice graduals into a Sodastream cylinder in a few hours you would have a full CO2 charged cylinder.