Getting A Job In Tech is Harder Than You Think
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Spicy Video Title 😅 Thanks for watching! This video isn't meant to discourage you, just to show that getting rejected is normal
Great video!
Thank you!
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It's when you get a job everyone starts blowing your line. When I got my 2 offers and accepted I started getting multiple interviews and I got 2 more offers from previous interviews.
Yes, I got more interest after a year of experience! But the interview process was still hard
or you can be like me and still not get calls back lmfao
@@JT-tx2ns lmfao brutal
True it took months of not hearing back. Once I finally got an offer, that's when the calls came in.
Dead ass 😂
I have one tip to add, the opportunity for you to ask the hiring manager your own questions at the end of an interview is probably the most crucial part of the entire interview. Not asking great questions at the end of the interview is like catching a 90-yard football pass only to celebrate early and fumble the ball on the one yard line.
The Q&A portion of the interview is the only part that you truly own. You can ask whatever you want. You can turn the conversation in any direction you choose. This is huge because it allows you to employ a few psych techniques that help you create positive associations in your interviewer's brain and leave a lasting impression.
I started asking these 5 questions, in this order, and I started getting invited to final rounds at FAANG, and now I have an offer from a F100 finance tech company, and a pending offer from an MBB consulting firm:
1) "What is your favorite part about working for XXXXX?"
(This is the softball. It's a great lead off that does two things: 1) This one gets the interviewer off-script and talking about something that's personal to them. 2) It gives you insight into the culture and the people who work at the company, both of which are huge factors)
2) "What is the biggest challenge your team is facing right now?"
(From the interviewer's perspective, this question shows them that you're interested in their problems - that's a great thing. On your side, this question is one of the most important in this list. It helps uncover information that you can later use to solidify your chances of landing the role or negotiate a higher salary. It's also a good chance to show your critical thinking skills if you can take an outsider's stab at their problem and come up with an answer that's interesting to them.)
3) "Let’s fast forward one year - you're looking back on this hire. What did they do to exceed all your expectations?"
(In the eyes of the interviewer, this question is gold. You are essentially saying “I want to know what success looks like so I can come in and absolutely crush this role.” On your end, it will give you some great insight into the abilities you need to have mastered in order to perfect the role. I loved this question when I was interviewing because it let me know whether the role catered to my strengths (requiring less effort to succeed) or if I would need to learn new skills to excel). If you get a good answer here in an earlier round, use the themes of the answer in the later interview rounds.
4) "What is the most unexpected lesson you've learned while working at XXXXX?"
(This is the one question that sets you apart. It's totally unique. Don't be surprised if you get a “wow, nobody's ever asked me that!” It's also the most “sticky.” By that, I mean that almost every person I interviewed with mentioned this question in their feedback. They might reflect deeper on their own afterwards on lessons that might have been more worthwhile to impart, which is really just keeping your interview alive in their head.)
5) "Tell me a little bit more about you, what do you like to do outside of work?"
(This is your closer. You've talked about business for 30 - 60 minutes, now it's time to get personal. The reason this question is so powerful is because it not only has people talking about themselves, but it also gets them talking about their interests - things that make them happy. Hopefully, you did some research on your interviewer beforehand giving you an idea of common interests. If so, steer the conversation in that direction and you are golden. Next thing you know, you've talked for an extra 15 minutes, built a strong rapport and have some great content for your thank you email.)
The bottom line is that when we talk about ourselves, our interests, our passions, our aspirations, and even our problems, it makes us happy on a molecular level - especially when someone else is listening.
These were amazing and I truly mean amazing tips, thanks. Best of luck. I'll be implementing them moving forward.
Fantastic, thank you!
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I agree, this was GOLD. Thanks so much sharing!!
I've been interviewing candidates for more the 20 years; all of your tips and suggestions apply and are well founded in my experience. The one thing I would add is that as as junior dev candidate, don't try so hard at anticipating what the interviewer is looking for; you'll never be able to second guess their intentions or thoughts. Come to your own conclusions and deliver with confidence and maybe some extra commentary to show that you're thinking more deeply about not just the problem at hand, but the wider context of development.
First off, I agree with everything you said. I work in tech and I'm trying to switch jobs, been applying to jobs since November and I've had maybe 3 interviews. I have 6 years of experience and I'd just like to add though that this isn't just an entry/junior level problem. At the mid-senior level the main issue I've seen is that for those levels, many companies don't want to train new hires anymore. They expect you to know everything off gate and they're looking for a perfect unicorn they don't have to train.
I understand preferring a candidate that's worked with a specific software before, but in my 6 years of experience in this field, most software you can learn in a few weeks to a few months, tops. Especially if your degree is in computer science and you're moderately tech savvy. A lot of great workers are getting passed over because they don't have experience working in something specific when it wouldn't take them that long to pick it up on the job. At my very first job I learned Ajax and jQuery on site within 2 months. Largely self taught because no one else at the company knew how to code, yet they needed a system to be built that would give live monitoring updates from one of their servers. But being a quick learner isn't valuable to companies anymore. They want someone who can "hIT The GROund ruNnINg".
I think you need to update your resume. Most people differ from your experience finding work after having experience. Also, how many applications have you applied to? When I had ZERO experience, I had more interviews than you during the prime of the pandemic(albeit rejected). You're either not applying as much as you think, or your current job application needs work.
I think it is mostly HR not knowing that most languages can be learned fairly quickly once you learn one language.
@@sarscov9854 I'm not currently searching for a job but have noticed that many who are, are getting shut out by HR before they even reach an engineer/developer. Thats why it's key to network with them so you can bypass HR
@@beautifullytextured6136 I'm not looking now, but I'll let you know how it goes for me when I'm in the market again.. maybe in a few years from now. I'll be mid level by then. 100% your connections is 100x more efficient to find jobs than using job search engines.
@@sarscov9854 agreed
For anyone reading this in college, be very mindful of what companies you want to intern with. Always try to go with companies that offers full time to at least 60% of its interns.
Yepp ! Wish I knew this one doing my internships
Ok Thank you, I want a internship next year, which is my sophomore year.
Absolutely, It's an immediate red flag otherwise, and your time could have been spent better in a promising position.
I wear my rejections with pride, its humbling to know I have more to learn and don't take this personally. I'd like to hope gets better, the key is consistency!!
I’ve only been in the profession for 8 months (bootcamp grad) and I noticed that I had the best luck and feedback from companies that were involved in education (k-12 curriculum / Ed tech). They seemed to be super open to and supportive of continuous learning and development > knowing everything right now. This was just from my recent personal experience and thought it’s worth sharing for those who are in a similar position as I was. 😅
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Wow. I'm currently an EYFS teacher who is teaching herself coding. I'd really love to work with companies involved with education since working in education is my background. Got any advice for me? Id really appreciate your feedback, thank you.
@@mamabear3610 keep grinding. Stack up those portfolio projects, build yourself a decent personal portfolio website to showcase your skills and what you’re about / tech stacks you’re passionate about and looking to learn in the future and then start applying to jobs. All the best
Thank you so much@@user-ec1dn3uz5k
Super helpful if you’re a white guy in tech too! Hoorah 😃 the culture fit test doesn’t even have to apply given that your desire to learn aligns with their perception of you as a harder worker ;) just facts.
This is one of the most helpful videos about joining the tech industry out there. It's insane how there's now an entire industry geared towards helping seemingly nominally qualified candidates get seen by the companies that are supposedly looking for help.
I've seen ads on every platform from gurus claiming to help you ace that coding interview or InMailers on LinkedIn from talent companies that will pay to train you but lock you into a 2 year contract for 40k for some employer in a place you've never been to or, most egregiously, influencers who get their 1st Software Engineering gig and then make dozens of videos about "what you're missing on your resume" or "why you won't make it without " only to boost their social media numbers from a steady base of job seekers looking for that last factor to give them an edge.
I say all of that to say that your videos are immensely true to real life, inspirational, and helpful. This video helps me feel not so alone in the seemingly futile attempt to break into the industry even though I foolishly believed my CS degree and projects would do the leg work for me in the beginning.
Much Thanks! And I hope you continue to make the quality content that you do!
yep they’re such liars. it’s everywhere ! this is the most realistic
Excited to learn more! Getting a job at a Big Tech + FAANG can make it even harder :-/ thankfully there’s a lot of smaller/mid-size companies with a great work-life balance, benefits, pay, culture etc. that don’t expect you to be super well-versed in DS and Algos. Do you think it’s harder to go the self-taught route vs getting a degree?
Always college if possible. In regards to self taught, I would go with apprenticeships. If you can afford college later on, would be ideal. LinkedIn, Spotify, Microsoft, Lyft, Twilio, Shopify, Twitter, Adobe, Amazon, IBM and Google have these programs that focus on non-degree candidates.
For sure. I went the traditional route by getting a college degree and I now work at a Big Tech company, but I can’t help but wonder how much of what I learned could have been condensed into a short curriculum online.
For example: Intro to OOP/Functional Programming, intro to Algorithms, DS and Algos, Architectural Design and/or Design Patterns could have sufficed as courses to get a job in software engineering (-:
Maybe even throw a Testing Fundamentals and Frontend Development class in there. Academia doesn’t even really talk about containerization, dependency injection, and/or concurrency (unless you take a low level OS class).
What in the CZcams comment marketing did i just read.. gotta improve your acting pooja
No, but I think it depends on the company. My company has an early career program specifically for people who have 0-2 years experience and they target new grad and bootcamp grads; self taught is probably in the mix. They just want to see u understand fundamentals.
@@integrationzzz what company do you work for?
The only real and honest influencer in tech 👏🏽
Once you get to a senior level, you'll literally not have enough time in the day to respond "no thank you" to all the recruiters that reach out to you. But one thing never changes: the interview process is really difficult, and takes a ton of studying every time you do it. And you'll still get a lot of rejections.
I’m about to graduate with a CS degree and applying to junior level roles and this video is so accurate! I wish I had better informed myself of these realities before I changed careers.
Start your career as a freelancer to build experience.
@@0x007A is creating several projects enough?
@@davinamayor7776 one or two significant projects of your own creation, even if inspired by another project by someone else but with your own spin on it, is one way to stand out. Quality versus quantity. Do not forget to document your project(s) including meaningful comments in the source files, a description of the project and its purpose along with an analysis of the design decisions, architecture decisions, and if it is an interactive web app, how to use it. If you have an idea for a SaaS product or service, all the better - create a proof-of-concept or prototype around that idea. Better yet build out the full system and deploy it so you can use it on your resume and/or talk about it during an interview.
Thanks for your transparency and tips on this topic! I have definitely been feeling this way since looking into the tech industry.
Honest truths are hard to swallow! Thanks for keeping it 💯- You’re providing an important perspective! People who see this video will be more confident to not give up once they hit their first obstacle.
I think everyone's experience differs, I think I got super lucky and had 3 amazing rounds of interviews being all women. I started my tech journey in 2020, I currently don't have a degree but have 3 certs 1 in cloud 2 in cybersecurity and I did a college credit certificate with my local community college. In all I did 2 semesters of classes, I first got a job doing tech support and I hated it but I was told that's where everyone starts for atleast 2 yrs. I couldn't take it anymore because my 3 months contract was extended and I was checked out, I quit. I went back to the community college for another CCC and I needed 5 classes to get my A.S and I decided why not? The CCC classes which are free covers 3 of my associates classes btw I haven't paid a cent for college. By this time AWS was recruiting for summer interns and I was super hesitant, a recruiter reached out to me like 5 times and I thought why not and applied as a joke... I was simultaneously applying for a security assurance role with a cybersecurity company. I got them both... I turned down the internship for a full time job paying similar and amazing benefits and I'm finishing college next yr. No degree, no experience. I was a CNA for yrs trying to be a nurse and the pandemic taught me that I wouldn't want to be on the front line.
Wow that is so amazing if you mind me asking where did you get your certifications from I would like to go down this route. I’m currently in a boot camp but just weighing out my options if I don’t find job placement after. I need something now.
@@blackgira7056 I did the AWS cloud practitioner and I got the security+ and CySA+ from CompTIA
@@Lolaleeeelalol did you do those before your roles ?
@@blackgira7056 yes I did my last cert I got in April 2021 and I got my job later that yr
@@Lolaleeeelalol congrats 🙌🏿🙌🏿
Yes, the first step is very difficult, I know from experience but never give up guys, keep pushing. Great content as always 👏🏻
This is so refreshing! Glad to hear you got back on the horse and are sharing your experience. I don't work in tech, but share the job seeking experience. It can feel personal and tough getting rejections, but I was happy to come across your video and realise it's all part of the journey.
Great tips! I agree, getting your first role in tech can definitely be a grind and luck does play a factor. It's so important for us to be kind to ourselves and remind ourselves that we only need one yes.
I think people should considered applying for small and mid size tech companies because there interview processes is not as long as big tech! Recently, I was able to interview with the CTO and Marketing director of a start up! It’s a good way to build experience so you can set yourself up to apply to those big tech companies. But it always amazes me how people with no work experience are able to land those entry level tech roles at those large tech companies.
True, but when it comes to big tech, its not what you know, who you know? Networking is major in big tech especially if you're starting from scratch. But theres also a little luck involved as well. Luck plays a bigger part than ppl realize.
I am from nigeria. Pls are there any remote opening available?? I specialize on the MERN stack.
@@jaycool9480 you working in google or something?
@@bavidlynx3409 i know ppl who work at Big tech who gave me insight into their experience during the interview process and those who interviewed at big tech who didnt get in. I dont work for FAANG, nor do I want to outside of Netflix.
I'm in a coding camp in NYC and this info is very helpful, keep it coming.
Love that you break it down to individual tips, would love to hear a long form version of this topic!
As a candidate filter, I guess it works. However, it is unnecessary, a 3 step interview process is all that is needed. The candidate should not have to go through such stress.
I agree.
And time wasted
Hi Bukola! Currently am in higher education and in the process of wrapping up my full stack bootcamp in June. The DevRel role looks great and the scrum master position. Thanks for being transparent about your career. It's helping me narrow my focus throughout this process.
Funny that this would come up in my recommended after having a breakdown over yet another rejection email. 🤣 it's tough getting one after 3-4 interviews with each company for even help desk jobs. I'm studying for my compTIA A+ and would like to find an entry lvl position to build experience with. It's tough out here, but this video helped me a lot! 😭 especially how the networking process works. I'm a true introvert so I've always wondered how people actively networked.
Don’t get the CompTIA A+, study Network+ course but don’t take the exam, Take the CCNA exam and after you get your CCNA, apply for System Administration roles, when you have the CCNA you don’t need to do the entry level jobs.
@@dilliano5 I'll look into it! Honestly just started studying for it after every job asked me if I had the compTIA A+ cert
@@dilliano5 I have my CCNA and only have gotten call backs with very entry level call center jobs who require a CCNA. Cisco is hiring through a temp requiring a CCNA for a call center paying $15 an hour.
I feel your pain. It took me waaaaaaaaaay too long to get even the most entry level of IT jobs. I didn't get a help desk position until years after graduating with a bachelor's degree and getting a few certifications. I can apply to any other help desk job and STILL get rejected, even if it pays significantly less than I'm getting now. It sucks. I networked through the school I attended and still had to do my own leg work.
@@barondystopia oh no 😭😭 really?? I'm still looking, but I'm about to graduate with my associates and take my A+ exam. I will be done very soon so I am taking a hiatus on actively applying. Sometimes I get so disheartened 😔 I feel bombarded by social media telling me how much opportunity there is in tech, but for a lot it doesn't seem to be the same reality. Maybe if I was about 5 years younger, but I'm approaching 30 and well, entry level will only be okay for so long lol
I really enjoy your transparency and videos, even though this is not my career path. I've passed this along to a family member to help them and some of these tips are also useful for those based in the UK or other countries
Cyber Security is also insane, if not more. There's a running issue, and it has become a joke, that some companies are looking for their entry level people to have a CISSP....a certification that you need to be in the field for 6 years to even qualify.
It’s because no one is taking it seriously enough. Everyone wants to take short cuts and just “cert up”. The market is becoming over saturated with people who barely have the skill sets.
Same with IT fields which want A+, Cisco, Microsoft, and AWS. All those certifications cost money and time to get.
This is facts. I got so exhausted with trying to get into cyber security that i took a role with a medtech company instead as a remote engineer (help desk). Which I’m overqualified for, but my job was willing to train me and help me move up. Cyber security is about certifications not skills, that’s probably why breaches are up. People are studying to get certified, not to prevent cybercrime.
@@kiarahipps8358 A lot of cyber security has to do with analysis things and no software development skills. This is why breaches happen because you can look at something and analysis the outcome, but you don't understand how it really works. The ones that do have programming usually are Python or Javascript. Your right about the certification. Certification is just memorizing things on how a specific platform works. You can be certified in a OS and still be clueless about the inner-workings because everything is based on GUI. Anyone can get certified if they study. It's the quickest way of getting a job but unless your Networking your not going to gain any real 'skills' from it that you can take into other fields.
@@jdkingsley6543 Blame the companies. If companies actually focused on entry level development there would be thousands of more cybersecurity professionals throughout the country. But the algorithms all weed out for certs so people load up on certs to get to the interview
This video came at a perfect time! I'm 4 months in on my job search and only JUST got an interview. I've been preparing for the past few weeks. This is my first tech interview so I'm anxious about that but this video helps put things in perspective.
@@periades6778 thanks for asking. To be honest better than I expected but I flubbed on some parts... Still waiting for result.
I need much more practice on analyzing time complexity and dynamic programming. For better or for worse though I'm Glad to have done my first tech interview and have a better sense on what I need to build upon.
After applying more than 50 jobs I got an interview and got rejected because I don't have experience😭
The same thing happened to me and the job was an entry level lol
Web development?
@bukola very insightful video! People who want to become a developer should know this is a hard profession and so is finding a job especially if you have no or little experience. This video will help them to understand rejections are common in job interviews, most companies don't want to take risks by hiring junior devs but this shouldn't discourage them. Thank you for sharing your thoughts :)
Thank you for keeping it real. Finally someone actually being honest and not just claiming they got 250k a year salary with no experience.
Who said that?
@@connerwhite5351 couple creators on tiktok. There was also some trendy vids on youtube about making 100k a yr off of free google certs.
@@Pedro-ev3if TikTok 😂
Thank you, Bukola! Right on time for me:)
You're a blessing... I love your tips and videos.... it's going to be hard, but there's no way I am giving up
I can atest to everything she says, even after my bootcamp and 20+ interviews...4 months later I finally got a job. The interview process is not only broken but rude...3-5 interviews PER company and then denied with no reason even if you made it to the final round.
I thought there was a demand?
To be honest, I was giving up. Thank you so much. I really needed this.
Great video, Ultimately because it's real and honest! I would say on the hiring process. I would say Bukola example of the hiring highly are heavily done by fortune 500 companies, so people looking to work in the industry don't feel that every tech company is going to be long a rigorous. I found in my previous jobs you just really need to have solid soft skills and really understanding of the tech stack that current company you're applying for is looking for you too do there.
This is so ACCURATE. More people need to see this
It was extremely helpful! Thank you far the resourses provided
Thank you for making this video. It was so helpful!
I love your tech videos🥰 could you maybe do a video on improving your resume/portfolio to feel and be more eligible for higher compensation? I like the thought of getting different certifications, but I don’t know how valuable those actually are in the job market, and I also love learning new languages, but I feel like those aren’t really that high value in tech? Would be great to hear your thoughts on these! Or maybe a video about how and when to ask for a raise if you don’t want to switch companies?
I can very relate to that. I went through bootcamp, then it took more than 3 months to land first job - it was always like "We appreciate your interest, but we need someone more senior." Now I am almost 3 years in the industry and getting like one offer per week.
Signed up for Career Karma today taking the Intro live right now. Thanks!!
Your videos are always so helpful!! I've been practicing on leetcode and pramp and it's helped.
Great to hear! Good luck on your studying!
Good video, it is ironic about the Jr level jobs. I am watching a good friend that was my team leader in the Army and he went through a coding boot camp and he has been doing A LOT of interviews and no one is picking him up so to be on the outside watching that, I def understand. Even for me just trying out simple help desk jobs as I work through my Cyber Sec degree is a handful of no gos.
Awesome video, thanks for the valuable information.
Great video, thanks for you advices
I'm currently at a bootcamp and I feel like my head is about to explode into a million pieces, I feel so far behind compared to other students but I am taking it one day at a time tho and your channel motivates me to just keep trying and do better.
what is the name of the bootcamp you are currently attending.
Honestly, if you don't enjoy it off the bat then you will be miserable in the long run. Instead try something more hands on like System Administration or Technical Writing
@@intihumala9087 thank you so much for this, I’ll look into it
@@adeoyetimothy6119 Manchester codes, it’s part time and remote
@Pelumi Labiyi I just graduated from a bootcamp and I understand how you feel. I started as part-time student and I was working full-time. My advice is that if you feel overwhelmed or falling behind ask for a self paced option. Self paced worked better for me because I was able to take more time understanding the concepts before moving on.
So Glad,
I came across your channel ! Love From 9ja :)
I love that this was recommended to me because I was rejected non stop. Everyone on tik tok made it seem so easy to get a job in tech.
Finally I got an interview and the recruiter was honest with me regarding my resume and career transition.
I just want an entry level people operations role.
What was wrong with the resume if you don't mind sharing the points
Hi Bukola I watch your videos because I like it. Greetings from Guadalajara, Mexico.
Always excited to be notified about a new video from Bukola. Your videos have been so helpful. When i land my first job, i’ll dedicate it to you💪🏽
Coming back to this video after a few months of doing a coding bootcamp and only now spotting the def pleasehireme() me joke 😂, it’s the details for me 🤣, thanks for all the valuable info Bukola!!
Thanks for the advice
I have received 5 offers over the past 2 weeks .my highest offer is $28 government contract and they are sponsoring my security clearance…you have to put in the work to get results, I only have one year of experience but I’m getting my Sec+ and I have redone my resume 5 times,I have self taught myself active directory,office 365 ,troubleshooting,command lines etc..you have to read job descriptions and study the computer and the area of knowledge needed for the role you are trying to obtain.It’s possible just don’t give up and put forth more efforts to learn all you can!
This was really helpful and confirming
Thanks for sharing very informative 🥰🤗
Your contents are always great. Keep giving us your best
Even when you are senior level it is still hard to find a job. So much competition and also jobs have so many very specific technical skills they are looking for.
glad you made this, I was about to fall into a hole after failing 4 interviews.
Your videos are so helpful ❤️
Can you please make a detail video on how we can network more better. It would be so helpful. Thanks
Great work!
1:50 Thank you. I’m so glad she said that.
How can this be such an in demand field but no one can get a job
What is broken about the system of employment and product creation, it's wild.
Edit: I got halfway through a software engineering degree, but I stopped because I'm making 50 to 60k a year in a unionized labor job and it doesn't feel like it makes sense to finish that degree with great personal debt just to make less money after applying to 2000 jobs.
Watching this as i shake with nervousness applying to jobs. I graduate in May with CS and boii this is all nerve wrecking!
If you haven’t start applying now
Start applying now!! It took my 10 months to find a job in I.T after graduating in May 2021.
Especially for entry level. Ive gone through hundreds of applications now. But I know I'll get something soon. Just gotta persevere
I am changing careers from a journalism industry!! Thank you!! I am changing careers too!
Thank you girl!
Nice and informative video. Few highlights that worth mentioning:
The challenge younger applicants are having in that market is their competing internationally. If you look in Asia or South America, you have high profile developers competing with Junior developers in the west, for approximately the same entry point for salary. If I have a business that relies heavely on tech, I'd rather spend a little bit more to get a more experienced profile, than a junior I'll have to invest in first. So for that I'll suggest you look at big consultancy companies first. You'll have the opportunity to team up with higher profiles and learn, while getting onboarded on big profile clients. Do it for minimum three years, and trust me after that you're in almost everywhere.
That last point leads me to the next highlight, which is more of a generational issue: You're 100% dispensable. Reduce your turnover, avoid doing more that 3 different companies in 5 years. It doesn't look good, it can make them think you're either not that good or you don't really know what you want. Because tech is not an easy field, you need to live with long evenings and maybe weekends work hours, and stress.
So if I may, a really good take away here is, 5 years exp is junior in tech in reality. After 15 years, and the way technology has evolved, I still learn.
I thought I was the only one thinking about this, crazy interview process even with my 6 years of experience. The last interview I did with a company took over one month. Each interview lasted for an hour, the last day of the interview was over 3 hours with five people throwing me questions like how they stoned Stephen to death. Getting a good Tech position, especially in the UK is hardest.
Top paying companies have the hardest interviews. Their acceptance rate is probably 5% or less. There are companies that have easier interviews and usually they pay average or less. Interviews for contract positions are also easier.
Interviews for senior positions are very competitive as well. The tech field has been around for decades and there are many senior engineers.
Thanks so much for sharing
It's crazy to me how things work in the US. I'm currently working at my 4th sw company and I'm a self taught programmer. I actually majored linguistics at the university. I need to say that from all my professional experience I have never had an interview where the questions and tasks weren't directly related to the job. I did have a look at leetcode and alike but no one have ever asked me to do similar things in an interview process. (fyi I'm from Europe)
Things are starting to change somewhat. There is more focus on system design now, and it's expanded from just asking "design Instagram" to actually walking through how you would solve real-world challenges. We still do "data structure and algorithm" interviews, but we also have a "role specific" interview which asks you a coding challenge directly related to what you'll be doing.
I needed this video
I’m a software engineer student! It’s been tough to find a Mentor. I wish you can Mentor me, because you have great knowledge!
I got my very first internship and I'm so excited! xD
I think a very good resume can really help you more than anything else except networking, but a good resume will at least get you an interview or a prescreening from a recruiter with my experience
True and those who apply online gotta conform the resume to the job description with keywords matching it up to at least 85-90% to even get a phone call. Its too much work trying to beat the ATS.
This video was just what I needed! I applied to 50 jobs so far and had 4 interviews and I’m still being rejected. They all told me I don’t have experience or I don’t have the education and training necessary for the job 😕. I’ve been thinking of getting an internship or taking a training course. I’m running out of options….
It’s a hard road, embrace the suck, never give up !!
Yeah, I graduate with my BS in electrical engineering. After about 7 years, I decided to go back to school to get my M.S. in CS. The interview process really caught me off guard when I finished grad school. I was used to 1-2 1 hour interviews lol. CS was on another level haha.
Did you find it easier to land a job with an electrical engineer major or CS major? I’m having difficulty choosing between one of the two majors
@@valerylouis6747 Before I answer this, just remember that my experience for EE was a while ago, you need to add my time in grad school + my time working before I went back to school. Also, you are comparing a B.S. degree with no experience to an M.S. degree with engineering work experience (even if it wasn't really in software engineering/programming).
With that being said, I had a lot more interviews for CS vs EE. All things being equal, I honestly do think CS is more in demand. However, when I graduated with my EE degree, I had no problem getting interviews and landing a job. I just feel like I had to put in more leg work. Where as with CS, I feel like I had a good amount of recruiters from companies hitting me up.
@@AcidLite Thank You very much for the response. One more question, how does these two majors compares to each other? Is one harder than the other? Is one more boring? I need answers please, I’ve been trying to have a conversation about these two majors and I think you are the perfect candidate, I’m a senior in high school and I don’t want to choose a major that I’m gonna regret. I need help
@@valerylouis6747 I remember that feeling in high school but the sad truth is a lot of this you will have to figure out on your own. I know that is not what you want to hear. The reason is what I find exciting and boring vs what you or someone else in general finds exciting and boring could be very different.
I love technology in general. In college I had a hard time choosing between Electrical Engineering, Computer Systems and Computer Science. I choose EE cause I wanted the "Engineer Title" in my degree but I ended up going back to school for Computer Science. That doesn't mean EE was boring compared to CS. I was just as excited building my first digital ATM lock on a breadboard as I was writing my first gaming program. I have friends that graduated with EE degrees. They are still working in EE and enjoy it. Everyone is different. I loved my circuit and digital system classes but I didn't get a job doing that. So eventually I made a personal decision to go back to school for CS, as I really enjoyed my intro to programming course and assembly programming course in EE.
My advice for you is to try to learn as much as you can about EE and CS. Maybe watch some videos or read up on common EE / CS topics. See what interests you. Or do some side projects and see what interests you. Build a API or get a book showing how to do some EE projects. Buy a bread board, learn basic circuit and logic design. After that start doing some basic projects and see if you like it. Once you start school, try and get a internship during the summer (easier said then done but those side projects I am suggesting may help you).
I hope this helps and excuse the grammar. I am falling asleep lol.
I truly wish you the best of luck.
@@AcidLite thank you very much for the response 🙂. If I understand your situation well is that you went to college for EE degree but didn’t end up finding an electrical engineer job?
Also what career choice did you make with the CS degree?
No matter how much experience you have: 6-9 months before becoming nominally "productive" is expected, unless you're working on a silly web app. (25 years experience here. YMMV.) Remember: there is a lot more to this industry than web. Embedded, consoles, AI, robotics, fintech, etc. Looking for a web dev job these days is like trying to join a self-absorbed mutual admiration society. My (unsolicited) advice is to pick something that you actually *want* to do for the next decade, figure out the requirements for that position, and then figure out the shortest path between who you are and who you want to be. Congrats: you've just found an algorithm for getting the job that you want.
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Wow, this video was so on point. I just got rejected, and CZcams recommended me this video
Mid level data scientist here! Been applying and interviewing for a year 😩😩
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Getting rejected by 50 jobs and getting 2 offers is phenomenal. Hardly something to complain about especially if you had no experience. I am blessed to be at my 4 tech job. Likely about to be #5 if I get past this final interview tomm. There is high demand. Especially now. First job is a grind but after that (at least stay there 6 mos) it's much easier. The struggle may be for a few month or even a year but once you get in, nobody can take that away. Also, Dont be too picky with your first offer. Just try to get in somewhere and get experience. Build after work and keep learning
Great video 👌
Thanks for the video , indeed there are many misleading words like "high demand" yes there is high demand but also there is alot of juniors
What hurts on JR level is the fact that they first get overseas people who do a $70k annual salary job for $10k. That is the wall you have to get over first. You have to train to be a midlevel dev in order to get a JR dev or Mid level job . Better to try for a Mid level job where there is less competition from overseas workers.
A lot of people don’t want to do contract work because there are a lot of misconceptions around this type of work arrangements, but if you want to try to get started in Tech or any in demand field consider opening yourself to contract work because most of the large corporations especially publicly traded ones prefer contractors over permanent full time employees.
Can you please brief me on what contact work really means?
@@Aby-zy4ku it’s kind of a broad topic but basically you work as a contractor not a direct employee for the organization. You do this through staffing agencies or through your own consulting firm, 40% of the workforce in the US works as a contingent worker w2, 1099, or c2c employee, the only downside is you don’t get paid for holidays or time off, however you get paid a higher hourly rate to compensate for the lost wages during the holidays or vacation time. It is becoming more common nowadays.
As someone whos a recent grad with a BS in info sys(no profession experience or internships) boy did my 3 months of job hunt humble me rq. Clearly showed how naive I was. Got nothing but rejections and its getting demoralizing T_T
I definitely need to work on my interviewing skills.
Exactly. Right now, I feel I’m ready to cracking coding interviews but none of the recruiters is looking at my resume despite many referrals. I think the sure way is years of experience and Data structures and algorithms
I have found that having a demonstrable body of work, online, showcasing your skills opens lots of doors.
Can you elaborate further???
Maybe try to find a job abroad? Many good companies are also in Switzerland and there is a massive demand for people here.
As someone who heads the Business Intelligence department of a large company, I also have to say that many people have completely oversized ideas about benefits, salary, etc. As someone who is fresh out of university and has no experience worth mentioning except for the small projects during their studies, you don't have to expect an extremely high salary and direct responsibility for large projects, but you have to start small first.
What do you think about liberal arts degrees? Do you think that it is useless? I think liberal arts degrees are fine if you did one of the following:
1. technical/business/math training
2. professional graduate degrees
3. target in-demand occupations
4. ivy league universities.
great advise
you didn't list the link for the resume tip/template you mentioned, will you add it? great info!
I can't wait to work in ICT. :) I am currently at college and after university.
Study your craft i.e backend/frontend and add 2 years of fake exp on resume (say company shutdown) get in any small startup, then remove fake exp and do 200 medium algo leetcode and then apply to fanngmula easy way to go from 70k to 300k in 2 years.
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I almost gave up until I found you!!!