How Hong Kong Protesters Evade Surveillance With Tech | WSJ
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- Protesters in Hong Kong fear they are being monitored by the local government and potentially by China, a country at the cutting edge of mass surveillance. So demonstrators have developed hacks to avoid arrest and hide their digital tracks.
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people are even getting "i don't want to commit suicide" tattoos because some protestors who are captured mysteriously committed suicide....
Wow... that's sad. I'm wondering the purpose of bringing ID to a protest
Lolol that one took me a minute
@@killercuddles7051 I guess that many of them can't reach the protest point without using their ID, for transportation maybe
@@killercuddles7051 it's the law to carry it at all times
@@killercuddles7051 They may have to sleep at anywhere, I would take it with me if I have to protest.
Rest of the world taking notes.
Wait for america
Right!
yessir
Snowden and The US government
Made In Poverty unfortunately republicans think they are the only ones strapped up. Lol
"The chance of success is almost zero" [but still, we have to try]
-- That got me.
I cried!
He's a real one
"A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit." - Greek Proverb
That’s what true activism and fighting for social justice means. It’s your relentless pursuit to what is right. Even if you are fighting alone or few, you still keep going, not for likes and views.
@@vikingbaguettebratwurst8619 wow
" *If you have to be persuaded, lied to, incentivized, coerced, bullied, socially shamed, guilt-tripped, threatened, punished and criminalized... If all of this is considered necessary to gain your compliance - You can be absolutely certain that what is being promoted is not in your best interest* "
- Ian Watson
I love it, buuuut - devil's advocate - don't all of those things also apply to narcotics?
@@bsmith6784 How so? I don't see the connect to guilt-tripping, threats, etc., etc. People understand the punishment that comes with addiction. Doesn't require any of those methods implemented to understand that.
@@depletable ... How do you think people *_came to_* "understand the punishment that comes with addiction?"
@@bsmith6784 Witnessing others in addiction or experiencing it for themselves.
Its the sane thing w covid vaccine
This is the most high tech protest I've ever seen.
Ahmed Elhanafi if they what to win they need to use the anarchist cookbook then the Chinese government is gana go Pepe
Ok boomer
The outro line was pretty touching ngl
They are actually smart. Here in the US, people are dumb and just kinda do crimes
they're asian what do u expect?
They know they can't win, and yet the stand for what's right anyways. Thats what hero's do.
That is so accurate @Ganderlow
I hope someone writes novel about this
their only hope is that we, hte west do something, but we are to much of a bunch of pussies to do so
Really cuz this is every trump supporter
@@puprilla What?
Bless them, when you’re willing to give up everything and not just for your freedom but for the freedom of those that will come after you, that is true respect.
didn't they stop a while ago?
@@doom5895 no, it’s still been going on. China just controls a lot of the media considering they have big investors.
@@doom5895 it just so happened be this all stopped once COVID spread like wildfire. Coincidence? Likely not.
I absolutely respect someone who KNOWS they may not succeed in doing something, but does it anyways because it has to be done!!!!!
They almost have protesting down to an art
Nathan Lowe Hong Kong
The art of protest
Except for guns
They’re a high IQ people
Pierre R they shouldn’t have guns. Americans need to learn to fight correctly. And get healthy.
QuickDraw we overthrew the British Empire’s rule of the colonies, which was the strongest Empire on earth with guns...sooooo?
This is a protest, its got everything a REAL protest needs
-Righteous reasons
-A clear goal
-Aggressive/persistent tactics
When the common goal is aligned with real justice it all falls into place.
@@chrisdeep8417 because they are actually oppressed and are fighting for their freedom which makes them fight harder.
And now look at BLM...
@@bromomento5913 yes, I was going for a more subtle approach but that works too I guess
Because they aren't interested in using a protest to cause unnecessary violence which is what a lot of Western society does, and is why protests largely go ignored in our side of the world. They love their country, and they have respect for where they live, which is why they are able to fight so accurately without senseless violence that doesn't serve to achieve their goal.
They have a very specific target, and that is to protect their freedom HK have had all these years. Going out to cause violence and looting would completely go against this goal and give China more reasons to go forwards, in addition to simply causing destruction to their home. The only destruction of property are the Cameras and Police equipment, which is assisting the oppression they are trying to avoid...no one is destroying shops or anything.
dystopia for real. These protestors know they are doomed to fail but the principle is paramount. Real hearts out there.
Huge respect for the boys
Nah, glory to communism
@@utvm6748 you like being under an authoritarian regime then why don’t you move there?
@@CZcams_Enjoyerlol mimimi autotahrian regm move the vuvezuela.
Why don't you move in bezos vila. And make some capital from cleaning his toilet.
@@utvm6748 You probably think Bezos isn't into government control. LOL.
@@jtammyjas tf does that even mean.
"The chance of success is almost zero, but we still need to do this, because of the justice, because we love this place." - truly powerful.
the jouney is the goal, or something along those lines? i respect it that someone can put energy in something with an almost zero chance... but people pay for lottery tickets, so what do i know ^^
czcams.com/video/MXVQNyDDpgA/video.html by killing Christmas trees??
Yes. By killing people
U know how many innocent civilians were also hurt right?
Yes it is powerful when u go around vandalizing public properties, creating nuisance, bullying people who disagrees with you and even killing people all in the name of democracy.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." Thomas Jefferson
The irony.....when he owns 600 slaves
@Jorge Adame How so? Every country has varying levels of rights and legislations protecting the state and citizen. In the USA there are many legislative levels protecting the individual's rights which I find very agreeable. However, in China there are very few laws protecting an individual's rights, but many to protect the government.
@@iscreamzz1550 Sadly he did make mistakes like owning slaves, but good lessons can still be learned from poor teacher's. We know now how horrible slave owning was, but it was standard practice back then. I don't think that diminishes the quality of his advocacy for citizen's rights.
@Jorge Adame So countries with democracy do not exist according to you? The Netherlands, Belgium, Australia, Iceland, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Finland, and a few other countries all live under the command of their government?
Icelandic people live under their 7th cousin twice removed, ONE big happy family can’t use them.
"A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit." - Greek Proverb
"police up his tactics and use blue dye in water canons" hong kong: everyone paints each other blue neow.
from NZ we with u,ss ok.
Anonymity is precious.
Or, wrap yourself in cling film.
neow
We should have been doing this last summer with the BLM and ANTIFA rioters, who are actual criminals.
This is why dystopian novels are so scary. They're so real.
CYBERPUNK Era is start from Hongkong Independent Movement
China must've thought 1984 was a handbook
@@condorX2 You should post your comment in the comment section not just reply to him so many more people could see the information you gave us.
Thanks and have a good day Condor, Scott G .
China already has apocalypse virus, concentration camps, intense protests for freedom being met with riot police, mass social credit system, etc...
@mister clean america will become its own capitalist dystopia at the rate its going. Its democracy it vanishing and almost completely lost to the rich and powerful
This country is like cyberpunk 77 in 2019
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Im prepared for Cyberpunk 77 Paris Texas👳🏿🤠🤖😠👿😼👸🏻👹👽👺💀🙈🐺
@@rodrigoeec G
@@avtismvsmaximvslxix5805 J?
@@edasdima2615 K
The way they organize is inspiring. Never stop.
The definition of the word "Liberty", noun: the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.
Sooo...
How do you see COVID restrictions then?
That's why anarchy is the only way for our species to progress. Anarchy is the mother of order
@@Legendendear How do you see traffic restrictions?
@@Legendendear How do you see jails then?
@@Steelmage99
I guess thats away to evade my question. By answering with an counterquestion. You know that doesnt answer mine right?
But to answer ur question...
Way to go to compare something which creates a two tier society with something which does not, great job.
I love this. Protesting isn’t a sport, or for fun and instagram. You do it for change. And you do it properly!
that one white girl on instagram painting her face with coal for black lives matter
I like the general idea of the protests n all, but the story got basically every technical detail wrong
@@mikadosannoji553 Lol, common.
@@DMack6464 What did they get wrong?
@@VaraLaFey for a start, telegram isn't decentralised
They said young kids won't do anything useful.... These kids proved them otherwise
They meant "american kids"
@@arisz2191 They meant any western kid...
how is this useful, they are wrecking havoc in the city
@@ChirpywaraTofu86 much more useful than BLM
@@ChirpywaraTofu86 for their human rights...
these people are so brave like the guy says our chance is almost zero but we still have to try..what a guy.👍🏼
Good luck to all freedom fighters around the world we are all in this together, the time has come.
Uhuru!
wrong vid bru
edit: yt showed me some other comment.....unrelated to the vid......now its magically changed.....
How so many people could possibly clamor for *_more_* govt control over their own lives is absolutely beyond me.
Right!
@@bsmith6784 Here in Holland we have democracy, but somehow the majority of voters vote for some kind of minister president who wants to lock out entire country and rule out all fun for people who do not comply with their silly mind games. Slowly but sure they're tying to make a shift to a Chinese society here as well. Adding camera's everywhere in Amsterdam is a beginning, soon these camera's will be everywhere. I get it if camera's would solely be used for protection and security reason only, but not to monitor civilian behavior. China's influence will reach everywhere in the future.
I feel like Hong Kong is a
battlefield right now
(Sorry for not editing earlier)
amir aznor It’s about to be IRL Battlefield 4.
Robo Gaming Sounds cool but in reality that’s horrible
Correction:
The Mainland China is actually quite peaceful, in fact, recently achieving the record of selling 38 billion worth of goods on November 11, 2019.
Like what you said, the Hong Kong China is a battlefield, but it is honestly created by the protestors themselves. They have destroyed private properties and public goods, and have injured and killed bystanders and police on purpose. Honestly, I stand with the Hong Kong police who have acted quite professionally during this chaotic riot, at least haven't accidentally kill a single protester in this situation.
@@canpoutine9354 I don't support some HK protesters promoting violence(not talking about
violence promoting fake HK protesters who are actually Chinese police). But overall responsibility of this protest is up to pro CCP-HK government. Current HK is very similar to Gwangju, South Korea in 1980.
Yup and they want west philippine sea also.
Lol he pointed the laser in his eyes
"See no problem" 😅
My friend has real permanent damage tho because of laser pointer. It was just because a stupid idiot prank
Hahahaha
He didnt even point it directly in...he just waved it around...
I guess theh see it not as a problem cuz they only intended to useuse it on camera's
@@haziqashraff1029 but they have used it directly at people's eye
it's comforting to know that even Chinese citizens don't like china's excessive carmeras.
*Hong Kong citizens that are the young generation don't like it. I feel like if if anyone would be freedom-minded it would be them and not Chinese citizens
It's comforting that criminals don't like under surveillance, the rest of law abiding citizen don't have problems
@@cyanidehappiness4280 I take it that you have never seen China's speed trap infested roads. I will say, watching videos of people getting 10 years in jail for going 51km on a 50 km road is hilarious!
@@nathanbeaudoin4437 show me the video of people getting 10 years jail time for simply exceeding speed limit of 1km perhour.
@@cyanidehappiness4280 It's not hard to find stuff on youtube, just use the search bar. on top of them speed trap they gots littered left and right, they have forced immigration camps and the whole shebang of the citizens destroying cameras is do to what i like to call the "act like a stereotypical government drone Chinese civilian 24/7 or get or get your unique china score decreased to the point you are banned from using your feet".
And yet here in the U.K. we seem to welcome mass surveilance.
Your bad
here in the states too
Not everyone in UK welcomes it.
And we in UK don't have the population like Asian countries to do same🤔
In the US the masses are under the spell of mind kontrol. Ment/mental means mind and govern means kontrol. Crazy coincidence for all the coincidence theorists.
If someone tries to oppress you, you fight. Simple. Respect for the people of Hong Kong. Go save that democracy guys.
Hong Kong came a long way in the last 25 years. There were many rude people everywhere the first time I visited 25 years ago, they had a bad reputation back then. Apparently they learned their lesson and changed for the better. I was teaching in Guangzhou from 2009 to 2013, and frequently visited Hong Kong since it was only 2 hours bus ride. My experience was totally different, people would go out of their way to help with directions and polite. I feel their pain now 😞
Yet when Muslims do that in India they are called Anti-Nationalists.
EDIT:
I'm not a pro-Islam supporter. But surely not a pro-Hindu supporter.
This is called a terrorist movement.
If your government is oppressing you, will you fight them?
@@divideandconquerasia7051 isn't that what the comment is haha?
Good to know that privacy matters this much to people, in the digital age, its comforting knowing people will force boundaries.
Yes . I need this in my life .asap. I will have it too. Thanks
Hong Kong has fallen since then
You're actually far too late. Since then, China has completely swallowed HK. The new security laws mean if you protest, LIFE IN PRISON. No allowances. Somehow this stopped all protests in their tracks..
Hong Kong is gone...
Agreed
@@DeltaTempest i have a feeling that isn't why it all stopped.. but yeah they're gone now and most likely the world we know will follow (just look objectively at the western world in general these past years)
Respect for those people,their government already have to much control
I like how even their police have a sign up that says “warning, tear gas”
Protestors: Laser Pointers
Police: lEtHaL wEaPoNrY
Razor High Flyer lasers can actually blind people if ti is concentrated.
A high powered laser pointer can blind you. I knew a guy who built a high powered laser pointer, and legit burns through paper in seconds.
Imagine something like that against your eyes. That's why when you buy a good laser pointer, the instructions say to not point it directly at your eyes.
It's not that it'll kill you, but Police Officers don't want to be blinded.
Al Sp What...?
For more than 30 second in might cause damage even in lowest class laser in low energy
@@jmmproductions6741 and as a protester i dont want to be shot?
Respect to all of the protestors who are putting themselves second, and a better society first.
It's useless their efforts are meaningless. They can't win, this doesn't have a happy ending from their perspective. The fact of the matter is Hong Kong is under Chinese control and no one in the west can change that. They won't get independence either. All they're doing is putting themselves at risk for nothing. Don't protest just stay home and keep a good life without having to look over your shoulder
I’d say this was successful if all they wanted was to raise the awareness of what situation they’re in
Texas should follow suit and “protest” so they can leave the union
@@dizzyjosh9036 And what is the point of that? Raising awareness changes nothing about their situation. It's a complete waste of time and effort and only really puts them in unnecessary danger. Additionally the People's Republic of China is prosperous and welcomes them with open arms. They should just stay home and accept the situation for what it is
@@thecommunistdoggo1008 Name checks out
Prayers for these protestors who are battling great evil! Thank you young people!
Thanks for the tips we will probably need these in Australia soon, love and best wishes to Hong Kong
When intelligent people protest
Edit: So many likes, whoa thanks guys
* when asians protest
If they are intelligent, they should know that coup d'etat is the only way to overthrow Chinese government. Protests are pointless.
Somewhat Blank Paper Obviously not, they have already had a few of their demands met. The protests are putting pressure on politicians to oppose China, as well as putting pressure on the rest of the world to take notice and stand up for Hong Kong
@@tylerwood9678 You see, Hong Kong's internal affairs are managed by the themselves. China must control its external affair. The thing is that most protesters want China to grant them full independence (which is not possible with coup). My "pointless" is from that perspective.
@@tylerwood9678 But sure, the protests do have some effect in the internal affairs.
The most alarming thing a bout this is the level of surveillance countries conduct. Big brother's watching?
We'll be soon living in Orwell's nightmare
Very much so. These protestors by all means should use violent means. When it comes to Communism, death is a preferable option for me
Idiot America conducts this kind of surveillance
@@ShamoonX you're assuming in that, that the apparatus won't be abused. Mainland China is currently arresting and "re-educating" muslims, tracking them with these tools. There are allegations that those who can't be "re-educated" are being sent to forced labor camps and having organs harvested. A nation where issues like that are even possible is not one I trust with any degree of power.
Ugh I hated that book 😂
I feel so sad for HK people. You will win, eventually. Just never give up hope 😔✊
Having been to HK... I feel for the HK people, too. But you and I are feeling sorry for different people, I'm sure.
Don't worry, eventually the Quad and the U.S. will be forced into a war with the CCP. The liberation of Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, and the people of the main land will be soon.
@@ADayintheLifeoftheTw It takes a special level of brain-washing to believe Taiwan, HK and Tibet are not part of China. It's impossible to still people sorry for people who fall for western propaganda... speaking as a non-brain-washed American.
@@cnelsonlv99 idk man. thats like saying people who fight for Democracy are really just Socialist.
@@dippinoutfool4977 First of all... no, it's nothing like that. No idea where you came up with that statement. Second... How much time have you spent in other countries? Have you been to Hong Kong? Have you been to China? Have you seen Antifa in action? Connecting the dots for yourself is not that complicated... but yes, it is more complicated than just allowing your brain to be washed by your own media.
It's a shame that coverage has dropped so much. These are the most important fights and should be given as much support as we can.
Surely all the corporations behind Murdoch's WSJ would be very happy if China and Hong Kong will became democratic....more democracy means more power to workers....more costs for corporations....but we have their newspapers that pretend to make deep reports over chinese authoritarism...isn't a deep report about 7 min of time dedicated to the issues?...for example you're talking about anonymity and you did call him Desmond Fong?...Is he alive or missing or in jail today? When was the latest WSJ " documentary" about chinese dictatorship? And what was his quality?
Everybody's gangsta until the protesters also bring guns.
@@anaverageuser_4267 Some people really hate communism.
youraverageusername _ it would be easy to get guns in Hong Kong due to Hong Kong’s trade policy
It would be interesting to send over a couple of u.s troops over to calm them down but it wouldn't be the greatest idea in the world
@@Jordanfizer sending US troops would be the same as a declaration of war
The government runs trade not the people
0:35 at this point every cat in Hong Kong thought it was the apocalypse
They can use lasers and point them at the police to draw cats and distract them lol
Imagine attacking polices with cats.
You high what did you smoke 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Huy Pham still the same
@@anerpos2055the word "polices" doesn't exist in the english language. The guy helped him out by sharing knowledge. There's your difference that you can't spot
Thank you all for standing up for your rights and freedoms! I hope there is some sort of win in your favour. Much love from Canada
We need more people like this in Australia!
Especially on speed cameras.
Use a drone with a plastic bag.
"because we love this place"
Too often are protestors criticized for being anti-Hong Kong, anti-America, anti-India, anti . . . No. You can love something so much you would do anything to make it better
You are totally right! People who love fight for it. I'd be much easier to move or just let it go.
If China is prospering, why are they rebelling? They dont love the place, but they love their entitled freedom that they now lost, and can’t cope with it
@@henrywilliams3197 what’s money without freedom?
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government
-Edward Abby
@@henrywilliams3197 I see you haven't realized what china is and what methods they use to control the people
American protests could never be this advanced and organized
I think they could, but in the USA such measures are not necessary yet. If the US would react to protests like China, protests would get more advanced and organized as a countermeasure.
@@ricardovieira8140 Weaponry isn't that useful for taking down opressive regimes. The chinese military is capable of squashing any uprising with as much coleteral damage as it sees fit. If a million people rose up in revolt, no matter, how well they are equipped, the military will beat them down.
The US military is far more powerful than Chinas and would have avsolutely no difficulty destroying a bunch of people with guns and tanks.
@@vanbaguette7368 It depends on the tactics and strategy of the revolt. Yes, fighting the United States in a conventional war with tanks and other vehicles will end in failure or a pyrrhic victory. But if they employ unconventional tactics, if it comes down to it, Terrorism and Guerilla Warfare will be significantly harder to defeat. You can look at examples in the Middle East and Vietnam. Find a way to boil down the engagements into soldier on soldier, remove the advantage of superior firepower, and victory is yours.
Ask Antifa they got busted haha
@@mericanpunk7432 Antifa is pure anarchy. No tactics, no results.
Great to see people using their brains! Now mix that up with high end innovative creativity and nobody will be able to overcome you.
"You gotta take the power back" - Rage Against The Machines
Says the ones who souled out and joined forces with the corporate machine. That being said, the controllers who control them tell us this all the time and no one listens.
"our colleges were hurt with these lasers"
also them: shots rubber bullets, tear gas, hit the protesters, ect
And using real bullets
yes, real bullets, pepper spray, the things they hold and beat ppl with, how they throw ppl to the ground, the list can be endless
Everyone is talking about the Chinese police but ig we aren’t gonna talk about the Molotov Cocktails, and IEDS being used
@@boylast8163 You push a man too far, Sooner or later he's gonna start pushing back.
@@boylast8163 because they are being operated and killed
That moment the world finally realizes they've built a prison planet 🌏
They started to make phones with not removable battery.
This says a lot about our society
@Escape Artist I won't live in it. I'd die for my rights and smile doing it.
that moment when people realize they were born in prison planet more like it
Fedor Cherp and that we live in one
I feel so proud and inspired to have had watched this ! To know that nothing may change but to do it & to continue to do it b/c you MUST stand up for justice..... I will be praying for all of you !!! ❣
Keep the resistance up, we would love to join forces with you.
Don't worry, you'll have the opportunity where you live soon enough. If you hadn't noticed, the NWO is well on its way.
@@JeremyBWallace please give me your IP address, friend.
Chinese Government: *Write that down, write that down!*
Bee Bro charles the French joke?
This. This is how you make change. If they won’t listen to the people, you make them
Then they massacre u and the world remains silent.
The 2nd Amendment was made just for this reason. People make fun of if it, but the founders knew what they were doing.
@@brandonporter6223 if these hong kong protestors used guns, they would get slaughtered in return
@@brandonporter6223 in a scenario like this citizens would get slaughtered sadly :/
@@cianmac3934 haha they will use gurilla warfare like my Hmong ancestors lol
"Discontent" - you mean humans fighting to surive? Damm man, wsj spinning that jarn.
That’s what they are paid to promote
They are protesting to combat surveillance not "fighting to survive", discontent is a perfectly accurate description. Only Fox news uses exaggerated words like you are suggesting
@@SergioGonzalez-qt9gt You do know that level of surveillance is used for one thing only, right? Control. It is set up to a system that you have to obey, or else you are locked out and probably not even able to get food anymore. This is the early stage of the battle against a system that will demand your total obedience.
This is good. When the U.S. starts this social credit score, Mass Servlance and Social Control we will need these tactics to protect ourselves as well.
They’ve already began
"The chance of success is almost zero. But, we still need to do this. Because of justice."
Stay at it. Freedom is not and never will be free.
took a whole war with a global superpower to gain our freedom here in america, i think we need to act more like the French in our war with hong kong
you are an idiot
@@user-pp1jo4iz3z hello, Mr. Einstein.
@@user-pp1jo4iz3z You give an interesting argument. Not. How about you give some real dialogue
@@user-pp1jo4iz3z so how's working for the ccp been? Good?
Pretty soon.... they will have signs around the city that say. “Big Brother is watching you.”
What if they dont
already happening , in london lol
They already have that in China. Social credit system. That's why they have face masks.
literally search " big brother is watching london"
1984
When you help create AI and other Geo location tech, you know just covering your face doesn't cut it 😂
Sounds like something straight out of Watch Dogs
When your citizens start practicing roman battle tactics you need to reconsider everything
Lol
Depends on how many protesters there are. For every possible opinion there is always some group in a society. You may see 1000 people protesting on the street which may seem like the entire city is going rampage, but if there are 50 million people in your city then that’s only 0.002% sharing that opinion. Also, this clip is very biassed towards supporting the protesters. If they filmed the documentary from the side of the government then all the viewers would be supporting the government at once… People watching these videos are letting them being dragged into the opinion of the filmer.
@@Engineer9736 How about yourself, who are you in favour for? These protesters being filmed or the government they are trying to stop spying on them?
Like the January 6th protesters? Criminals all of them
@@akk9196 nice of you to join this topic, what happened on January 6th?
The chance of success is almost 0 but we still NEED to do this. Let that sink in hard...
Why do we need to do this?
陈加龙 BLM protest
@@jasonchen2552 They needed to fight for their freedom of speech. Plus the freedom of their children when they're long gone.
1989 Tiananmen
But not with tanks, Pandemic so it looks like an accident...
Omg I can't imagine having to deal with surveillance like that. It's one thing to have them in stores of by traffic lights to send you tickets for going threw a red light but, to be identified just for walking down the street?!?!!! That's crazy!!
when young people become involved for the survival of their future youll know theyre fighting in desperate time against tyranny
It makes me proud to see how people are fighting for their rights and democracy.
Edit: very interesting discussion underneath my comment :)
Jonas Dehne I hope nobody takes my democracy away
so ur saying setting fire to stores and people, beating people to death, basically destroying their home is the way to fight for their rights and democracy?
@@jhonsmith7312 , what would you suggest might be a better option? Lie down and let your freedom be seized? Those who won't defend their freedom won't have it, simple as that.
Fox Fur
First, every death thus far has either been caused by the ‘protestors’ negligence, incompetence, or maliciousness
Second, the ‘protesters’ are beating up, attacking, and killing pro-Beijing CITIZENS
Third, the ‘protestors’ are destroying CIVILIAN property through the use of fire-bombing, cocktails, explosives, and more
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If you want to fight for your beliefs, go ahead, but these are in no way protests anymore
You lose your legitimacy as a ‘protest’ when you attack the civilians who aren’t fighting back
You lose your legitimacy as a ‘protest’ when you destroy the property of the civilians who don’t fight back
You lose your legitimacy as a ‘protest’ when you kill innocent civilians and get kids under 16 years affiliated with your violent ‘demonstrations’
These are not righteous protestors
These are vicious and malicious rioters
If they wanted to fight for democracy so bad, they could hold demonstrations without ever raising a hand
That HAS been extremely effective throughout history
If they wanted to fight for democracy, they could appeal to America, the EU, the UN, Europe and more for help instead of attacking INNOCENT PEOPLE
If they never raised a hand, and the HK Police started attacking them, then other nations would step in
China would lose face
However, they use explosives, they are using claymores, they are attacking and killing people
This isn’t a demonstration
This is an unorganized mob
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If they want democracy, they should earn it
If they wanted freedom, they should show they deserve it
Attacking innocents in any form is a heinous act of barbarism
Jonas Dehne I don't support the protesters or the police, but let me say one thing: do you think the police beat up the protester for no reason, if you live in China or any SAR in China you would see the news papers of protesters biting the police's ears off, stabbing them and shooting them with arrows, what if you are put in that situation and have no chose? Would you fight for your lives? Remember, the police don't actually want to be there, they were told to, they fight for there lives to not get injured, they shot the protesters to protect the police that lives are at stake, I don't see why they claim the police of police brutality, when they are just fighting for their lives, honesty I think this has just gone too far.
"We still need to do this because of the justice, because we love this place". Powerful stuff.
Those are words spoken to the media, make no mistake; regardless of their intentions they said this because they want american sympathy.
@@cubedpotatoeshd2479 are you Chinese?
Is that why you're so bitter towards them?
May i ask what is the point of American sympathy for the people who go and protest for what they want every day ?
If they hated their country they wouldn't really mind... they could simply immigrant.
@@knownanonymous1691 Are you NAZI?
@@billadmond9450 Hope your comment can increase your social credit score pal, at least to a point they will give you food
@@billadmond9450 +15 social points
Taking notes for sure especially now.
i think we should just make a card with 100 rfid chips in them and with everyone carrying them it would be impossible to prove who was where. the authorities game is sifting through metadata and if the metadata is overwhelming than its game over.
Respect to the man being interviewed, they know the chance of it what they're doing being successful is extremely low but they have to do it for their country and justice
Their chance is zero. They're wasting their time.
@@DonHavjuan if you can live your freedom, die for it.
@wpg uncensoredfornow dude meet a psychologist, please.
@@DonHavjuan That's what most people said during the American Revolution..
@@DonHavjuan
what would you consider a better use of their time?
"Lasers are no problem at all"
Styropyro has entered the chat
What if we use a portable hfvttc with 5 of those Soviet vaccum tubes to fry cameras?
Blinds literally everyone
@@despy1855 he goes in the chinese police department and blindms everyone. Problem solved.
Imagine if the protestors got his lazer bazoka
@@maksym6694 Does he teach us how to build his lasers?I'm trying to get info to build a laser pointer capable of blinding an attacker permanently within half a second.
You've got to respect their unified self sacrifice and determination. Chinese Leadership's fear, is that the threat of self determination will spread like wildfire through China.
It will.
Three days without food, heating or Cell and the people of China will be asking the ruling party some very stiff questions and wont be taking no for an answer.
The tree of Liberty MUST be refreshed from time to time with the blood of PATRIOTS and TYRANTS. 🇺🇸
EEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWW
🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔AMERICAN🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔
@@tinygoblinlvl.3151 don’t know if that’s a compliment or criticism.
Either way….. THANK YOU‼️🤣👍
God BLESS America
The Greatest Country that ever existed.
Trees do better with sunlight and water.
Sounds like your tree is sick
@@artisdeadlongliveart 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Since when? The invention of cheese-stuffed crust?
@@c.s.7097 have a nice day. I don’t engage with village idiots
Instead of Cardi B as person of the month for time, maybe we should have Hong Kong protesters.
TIME is a joke
Didn’t she drug and rob people?
Cowards at TIME are scared of China
@@insertcringynamehere2937 yeah
@@insertcringynamehere2937 yup many celebrities have dark pasts that people like to forget. John Lennon abused his family, Tom Cruise is part of that cult, and Snoop Dog was a sex trafficker. Yikes moments
I hope they get the freedom they deserve like every human being
They won’t if Biden somehow gets in the White House
@@arcanum3882 what that doesnt even make remote sense
@@arcanum3882 trumpie
@@arcanum3882 what, how?
@@arcanum3882 Yeah why not bring Trump into the mix? You understand nothing of this.
My heart and prayers are with you!!!
I cant do much for them from here, but the least I can do is say "I support You Brothers and Sisters" may god help you guys. All the best ✌️
“Okay google, how do I become a weapons dealer?”
Hey Google *
Rishabh Vlog do you not remember google glass?
I never had it, is it ok google still ?
Ultra Sauce
I don't support the protesters or the police, but let me say one thing: do you think the police beat up the protester for no reason, if you live in China or any SAR in China you would see the news papers of protesters biting the police's ears off, stabbing them and shooting them with arrows, what if you are put in that situation and have no chose? Would you fight for your lives? Remember, the police don't actually want to be there, they were told to, they fight for there lives to not get injured, they shot the protesters to protect the police that lives are at stake, I don't see why they claim the police of police brutality, when they are just fighting for their lives, honesty I think this has just gone too far.
A AnimeTions ok bootlicker, if you work for the modern equivalent of Nazis and don’t do your duty to rebel and join the resistance you deserve every painful fate possible
Imagine if someone literally came in dressed up like ned kelly and straight up just walked through the police
*heavy Australian bush ranger breathing*
Good for you! Thanks 😊
Wow! Keep it up, proud of you.
I feel like Watch Dogs Legion is modeled after the Hong Kong Protests
kinda
It is modeled after London literally what the game is but exaggerated. Search Big Brother Is Watching London*
London will erupt in protest like this one day. Probably start with Brits protesting all the immigration.
look what happened in chile or Colombia! it's worse
@@CN-wt2bj Brits and most Europeans are brainwashed pussies nowadays
What I can tell is
The electronic salesman. Is so happy about this protest
Viktor ScruelberG They won’t be happy in 2047
And I am 100% sure most of those electronic products come from Shenzhen China
Yes brothah i from jamaica and i too love to make sales and money
Go rich rich
Haha that's pretty much most of China.
China is profiting from this.
Wow.
Amazing people! Take notes! This is the future of protests. We dont want to end up like Australia :P
I keep telling people>.. WE'RE NEXT!
Well I pray for them! Love and respect from USA!
This is basically Watch Dogs in real life.
@Truip Dumpp Actually yes..
Yeah but they haven't gotten to this game yet.
China is the enemy
this is basically all they can do without gun rights against tyranny
Alex Pham seems fun
Hong-Kong is considered the city that's closest to the world of cyberpunk
Edit: some ppl replying to this comment are salty af idk why
Hong Kong is street kid path and China is Corpo path lol
@@AyeRoshi exactly
@Omf outdoors so Hongkong is street kid and singapore is corpo
@@AyeRoshi Mongolia = nomads
I guess cars can randomly fly there and weather will change if theres a car collision
His comment at the end sums up every fight for freedom throughout history. Freedom is a human Right, Freedom is worth fighting for!
huge respect to everyone.
This surveillance isn’t just happening in China it’s also happening in the United States.
It’s like progressives and communists have something in common... 🤔
I don’t care if the government knows all about me go ahead I don’t mind and our gov isn’t a communist party.
Henry Trenter there not a illusion as if their were no gov it would be people running around killing everybody there would also be no schools and no schools mean no education. No education means no smart people and advancements in society as gov is the base for society
The difference is that if millions protested in the streets (with clear demands) in a free society, a real dialogue would be setup and changes would come.
@Chewbacca Imagine if someone steals your wallet you, then you'll be grateful to those cameras.
Protester: "we hide our ears and faces, so that the Police can't detect our identities"
WSJ: Showing the protesters ears and faces
Maybe they agreed
Yeah I was like are these journalists stupid? Why not blur out their face?
Isn't CZcams blocked in china? Anyways block this video in China
@@PasscodeAdvance call me crazy, but I think the chinese government has access to youtube
yeah its blocked in china but not hk
Amazing the people have had it. God Bless their courage and efforts.
it is kinda insane they have chips/trackers in everything they use, it is just a matter of time for all countries to be like that.... only god can help us
The Americans should learn few tricks from Hong Kong protestors.
Not just american, every single person on the planet should learn.
@@elijahmendez4107 they dont even care at all about this all floyrd Other criminals just got "excuse me" for thier next new riots acts
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Differences between the protesters in Hong Kong and USA:
The Hong Kong protesters are all anti-communism.
The Hong Kong protesters do NOT turn into looters and they only fight against the cops, not against the business owners.
Now the Hong Kong protesters are not allowed to protest even peacefully. They would be beaten and arrested even when they protest peacefully.
The U S protesters are mostly pro-socialism or pro-communism.
Many US protesters have turned into looters who fight against the cops as well as the business owners.
The US protesters are allowed to protest peacefully. Only when they turn into looters and rioters do the police use non-lethal force to arrest them.
The only thing in common is that both of them are against police brutality.
@@simon6071 A lot of the so called "looters" are stayed by the police. Like why would there be a random stack of bricks during protest and professional break ins. There are some looters who just take advantage of the protest but a lot is staged. A few is pro socialist and communist most probably like captilism they just want to end Police Brutality and how easily most cops can get away with murder.
@@quassar89 lol you think floyd is the only person that the government has approved to be killed in america?? Have you not heard of the native americans that used to live all over the USA? It has nothing to do with police brutality and more to do with this entire system being upside down and keeps making the rich, aka the parasites who lend money to countries, get richer while the rest of humanity is left to be on welfare, riot, steal, just to get a slice of bread.. the riots are nothing but part of the drama on TV so people can focus on the "riots" and "looting" on the television, all while the entire us government is almost done looting all of america.... the us already looted the entire world, who else is left with a little bit of wealth in this world that can be considered middle class ?
Reporter: So, what's your high tech tactic to evade survelliance?
Protestor: This umbrella contains a clever mechanism to expand a cloth sheet over my head.
Passer-by (me): I love it.
It's brilliant! You can't get arrested for holding an umbrella.
@@mshuman .....
Not yet
@@mshuman it's china tho...anything is possible, and I dont mean it in a positive way :)
Za
@@mr_niceman same in the west... but it doesn't fit the narrative to remind you of that
I stand with the sovereign and independent nations of Hong Kong and Taiwan. May their oppressors get what's coming!
Mao Zedong great emperor
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@@tinygoblinlvl.3151 Communist china are the rebels. Taiwan China fought japan during ww2 and freed the country before getting invaded by communists, a FOREIGN ideology from RUSSIA. Communist China only became recognized when OTHER countries decided to do so. But historical China (Taiwan) didn't stop to exist just because the communists rebels decided so from the THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SEA. If anything, Communist China is the illegitimate state, while Taiwan is old legitimate historical China: facts!
Family relocation to uranium mines in progress...
@@tinygoblinlvl.3151 here’s your 5 cents and +10000 social credit
@@keson7286 0.055 yuan I can feed rice to big family(2 children) good thing my family is small (1 child)
Good to know and use in the current medical dictatorship in Europe, US, Australia, you name it.
These guys are absolute legends. They have my full support. I really admire their tenacity.
same bro
surfinmuso
I don't support the protesters or the police, but let me say one thing: do you think the police beat up the protester for no reason, if you live in China or any SAR in China you would see the news papers of protesters biting the police's ears off, stabbing them and shooting them with arrows, what if you are put in that situation and have no chose? Would you fight for your lives? Remember, the police don't actually want to be there, they were told to, they fight for there lives to not get injured, they shot the protesters to protect the police that lives are at stake, I don't see why they claim the police of police brutality, when they are just fighting for their lives, honesty I think this has just gone too far, do you know how nervous the other city’s near Hong Kong feel, my mom the part of the Macau Customs and she told me every night after work, that they had to triple their regular security checks, and now have 24 hour shifts just to make sure that these things don’t spread all over China, think about it, so you want China to be covered by protesters that beat up innocent civilians that are pro Beijing didn’t want to be apart of this, having fun and regular lives affected because of a new law in Hong Kong that released a person from prison back to Hong Kong, do you want to know how it all turned into this? After that law, the Hong Kong protesters were asking for help from the UK to help them, but they didn’t, then they found out that democracy has good political freedom, so they change their plans to become a pro democracy protest and asked help from the US, they US show that and helped them because “all they want to be is to be democratic” so they helped and look that this big mess, just because of one STUPID law.
surfinmuso same bro
A AnimeTions the reason is cause that one law will break the freedom
Harry2Plays
I know but don’t you think this has gone too far the police don’t want to be there, it’s there job to protect the citizens, to you think that they will beat up the protesters just because they want to, no, it is because there life is at stake
"This just in: facemasks, laser pointers, hats, umbrellas and paint are now all illegal."
JP fan heh.
And cash, can't track that.
This just in: how ironic that Antifa and the HK protesters all use the same tactics and technology.
@@cnelsonlv99 yeah, similar counter measures to police brutality and a police state
@@catrielmarignaclionti4518 Really... Antifa is a counter-measure to a police state?
love you !!!. you show the world how to do man 😍
I'm not usually a fan of wsj but this is a good video. Like.