The Colt CAR15 Commando Story (Early AR15 Carbines Like XM177 & GAU-5A/A)
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When I was 14-15 my brother left his Colt Commando with me while he was deployed to Desert Shield/Desert Storm he sold it a few years later. Would love to have it today.
Assuming an SP1 Carbine?
Ive always thought the XM177 was and is the sexiest AR pattern rifle ever. Possibly the sexiest military rifle period. Such a beatiful gun! Misha your vast collection and knowledge never cease to amaze me.
.......agree, it is beautiful.....compact, light, looks beautiful.....
Thanks Misha, I was having a really shitty day today. But seeing this notification pop up made my day.
I'm sincerely glad to hear that. I am not in the best spirits today myself.
Yes, please, always make an AR15 video, at any given time, on any AR15 subject, etc., these are always fun to watch ! :D
Story time inbound … a glass a scotch armed and ready to intercept
You are a true encyclopedia on ars, and history of them, I've learned a lot from you and I appreciate that, and by the way my favorite model is th A1 xm177e2. I'm in the process of building mine, but since I'm left handed mine will have a c7 A1 upper, the beauty of this platform is you can do what suits you, right. Thanks for your knowledge buddy.
The stock on that M1 carbine...
YES, this is an AR video, but about the M14: When I reported to Marine Corps OCS in 1975, we were issued M14s. They were still officially the standard rifle of the Marines, even though all combat units used M16A1s (which were listed as 'substitute standard). In '77, when I reported back to complete training, I was issued an M16A1, with the metal buttplate and provision for cleaning kit storage.
Would you double check the 'Gun AirCREW Unit' for GAU? My understanding was that it stood for 'Gun, AirCRAFT Unit', in the same category as the 30mm GAU-8 Avenger cannon on the A-10 Warthog. A quibble I know, but I have to ask. 🤔
I had an airforce original ar 15 rifle in my army arms room. We got it during the gulf war .the thing came out of the army weapons depot. It was brand new. Loved that rifle.
Its difficult to convey just how light & handy those first generation AR15s were isn't it?
Ahhhhhhh the top car had a fun switch. What a beauty 🤗
My 68 SP1, has A1 birdcage, split washer, 1/12 pencil barrel, slab side lower, no forward assist or case deflector, oversized front screw type takedown pin, cleaning kit butstock, colt rebated bottom semiautomatic bolt and anti "hammer follow" hammer with firing pin catch notch.
Misha, Love your channel. I recently scored an old Bushmaster receiver that I turned into an ‘almost’ A1 clone. But the case deflector and A2 lower/pistol grip kept it from being Vietnam-ish. But it looks to me here that I have the perfect receiver to build a Car-15 (Commando?) since it has the A1 upper sight, shell deflector, and A-2-ish lower. Thanks for the great work, Chris, Tx
I love the slick-side version w/o forward assist.
...this has been pn my mind....I truly wonder if anyone EVER used the fwd assist and was it really necessary....
Love story time from Misha!
Those are some sweet rifles! I was able to obtain a SP1 in mint condition that was barely ever fired, a while back. It’s not as old as yours. Mine has the chrome lined barrel. Boy, I really want an original Colt m16A1… I can’t wait to get my hands on one of those. Then, my collection would be complete. Maybe….
XM 177 E2 everyday is my Fave. Can't help but noticing that it looks like you have the mottled/marbled grip. Have a mental block on the materials name. Pre plastic configuration composite. I've seen them available just recently. Take offs. Low budget too. Thanks Misha! Your vids always kick butt.
Classic long form table top misha! Woohoo
Thank you. I had a 16" pencil barrel CAR 15 clone. I dont have it anymore but im working on a ultra lightweight pencil barrel m4 flat top upper with polymer lower. Pushing the ultra light idea.
Regarding the Colt branded reproductions- they were contracted out to US Ordnance in Nevada, they did use new A1 forging dies for the lowers as opposed to re-profiled A2 receivers, and the slightly larger diameter barrel forward of the front sight is in fact correct for a factory Colt Commando (length issues aside). The barrels on factory 11.5 guns had a slightly different profile compared to longer pencil carbine barrels.
I also believe that the Troy versions had M4 feed ramps and the 1:7 twist. Not saying that to dunk on it or pretend that the Colt isn’t overpriced, but wanted to mention it in fairness.
Yes to the twist rate, i forgot to mention that. As to the profile, that one gets a bit complicated as I've come across a few different barrel diameter profiles. I mean all are slim, but just how slim seems to vary a bit. Again these weren't TDP guns, so running changes happened. Heck, most actually fielded were 10" too, which is kind of wild considering how much exposure the 11.5" gets. As to themfg for Colt, 2 different ones were used because the business relationship brokedown with USO. Dealing with Colt is messy. I would have kept a colt if it wasn't 2x the price. Also the 14.5" barrel did kind of bug me for some reason? *shrug*
Interesting about the change in manufacturer; I hadn’t heard that. I only know my 2021 produced GAU-5/A/A was made by USO since they serviced it when I noticed that it had an F marked front sight base.
@@caseymacgregor8089 Did they machine off the flashing on the FSB? Thatw as one feature i did appreciate with the Colt XM I had in here. What i didn't like was the unmarked barrel..no C MP or CMPC at all, boo.
Dude, I’m literally drooling.
Please get Foxy behind these rigs!
C-clamp shorty with irons.
I would but remember the LE6320 insodent? lol
This channel and also the school of the American rifle are basically my drugs
I prefer cocaine but hey......and yes that was a total joke before the internet decides I have a coke addiction now lol.
It took me close to 30 years to dress a stock ar15 up like the a2 carbine can't imagine the investment it takes to obtain a real early example like you discussed
To do a Colt 607 (GX5857) correctly, you would need an XM16E1 kit + 10" barrel, cut down E1 handguards, and the special adjustable E1 buttstock. An undertaking for-sure.
I really appreciate all the research that you've done on this video. I really enjoyed hearing about them. I especially like the moderator equipped version. Something about the two position stock. Just the look is really mean. Like to lay my mitts on one. Thank you.
For me, the XM177/GAU5A is a classic. If i only had say 4 AR rifles, it would have to be one right next to a VN era M16A1, M4 carbine, and M16A2 (because I grewup in the '80s damnit lol)
@Misha and I grew up in 70's. Guess it's logical!
@@nedanschutz For years, the only AR i had ever fired was an SP1. Probably explains why i wanted an A2, just because i didn't have that one and at the time colt really didn't make a 100% correct M16A2 in semi-auto form. Nothing against the Sporter-II series, just wasn't what I was looking for. Luckily, an A2 fell off the back of a Colt shipping truck, so I have had mine for a long time now.
I caught the pencil barrel bug early with a
6520 upper. Have had several monolithic colts and lmt’s but my favorite has been the 14.5” guu-5p clone! So light and handy yet still takes a bayonet!
Bushmaster produced a pre-1993 XM177 E2 replica.
I think the U stands for unit. GAU, Gun Automatic Unit if I remember correctly.
The M14 may have not been successful in the jungles of Vietnam, however, it was used again in Afghanistan and Irag, so it's not obsolete. If you prefer, we could go back to the M1 for a battle rifle and I'm OK with that.
I’d Love To See Fox Have a Go At These Fine Carbines Misha 😀😎 The 633 In Particular 😀
I knew a guy who was in the Marine Corp Reserves back in the Gulf War era and he said some of the Marines were being issued Garands. He was a Hi-Power match shooter, so I think he knew what he was talking about. Sounds reasonable to me. Some of the Moros on the PH island of Mindanao are shooting Garands, M-14's, and M-16s. I don't think the jungle environment is affecting them because the PH Marines and Army can't beat them.
Yeah Fox needs some CAR15 Action
I've always liked the 652/653 Lightweight Carbines
I thought the Troy lowers with faux third pin marking were supposed to be destroyed per aye tee eff.
Who is making the CAR 15 sling?
....QUESTION for Mishaco and others; what is your honest opinion on FORWARD ASSISTS? Necessary? Did you ever actually have to use a forward assist? Thank you....
Ahh finally some American rifles,because were American!!!
Seemed appropriate to publish this going into Memorial weekend.
Real nice video.I have an older Bushmaster CAR -15 clone,and a Springfield M1-a and Rock-Ola M-14 f from James River.Any comments on the Rock-Ola? They don't make them anymore ,mine is from 2014 as is the Springfield. I like them all.
The Springfield M1-a I bought used and it had a polymer stock which I replaced it with the wooden stock and bayonet lug for the "Vietnam look".
That's a lot to take in I'm going to have to watch again by the way if you hand them the fox will just throw them in the mud
To be fair, in Nam most probably saw a lot of mud there too.
@@misha5670 maybe if you ask him to close the ejection port cover before he throws it in the mud and Stomps on it that's okay
Where the slings on carbines come from?
F Troy!
Yes Troy hiring the Ruby Ridge sniper (if I heard correctly ) bothers me.
@@davidschaadt3460 It was actually his spotter.
Never fucked someone named 'Troy'.
Looks like I’m back to loving the old classic M4 again and here’s a new interesting inspiration that has made me love the M4 again… the most famous user of the older CAR15s before the M4 is Delta Force. Delta Force is the first of any US military group to field the CAR15 at full scale instead of the more common HK MP5 used by most special forces teams. And speaking of Delta Force, the most notable member is Mr. Larry Vickers, and the CAR15 he carried is a Colt 723 with the M4 profile barrel. His Colt 723 is fitted with a QXL Surefire flashlight and an Aimpoint 2000 RDS, which Mr. Larry absolutely loves and he’s a major fan of Aimpoint and according to him… “This is what put Aimpoint on the map.” And thanks to the CAR15 being largely successful with Delta Force, that inspired the US military to ultimately adopt the M4, thus becoming TDP in 1995.
Good video, but your sling keepers are all backwards
Any info on the colt 651? Cant seem to find much ...
It seems to be a short barrel + fixed A1 buttstock. If you are asking for production numbers, not even Colt has those. A lot of those models were more in theory rather than full production. Just things Colt could put in its catalogue in case someone out there might want a specific configuration. If no big orders came in, then Colt just didn't produce many. Really only a few thousand of theentire Commando series were built back between 1966 and 1970. For the 651, 652, and 653 series; not a ton either.
M-14 DMZ CARRY.SOUTH KOREA .70S
looks sogish
xm177